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Rauner again targets ag education funding for elimination

Wednesday, Mar 2, 2016

* Gov. Rauner has repeatedly called agriculture “the backbone of our economy” in Illinois. From just last week

At the 2016 Illinois Pork Expo in Springfield Feb. 16, Gov. Bruce Rauner praised the state’s pork producers for being “business builders.”

* And, of course, he has said time and time again that education funding was his highest priority, even without the money to pay for it. From yesterday

Rauner told reporters that other parts of the state’s budget are important, but none more so than schools.

“No matter what, we should make sure our schools open and they have more money. No matter what else,” he said.

Also from yesterday

[Rauner] also repeated three pieces of advice his grandparents gave him — work hard, get a good education, and give back to the community.

* But

Zero. That’s the funding amount Governor Bruce Rauner has proposed for agriculture education.

More than 1,000 FFA members were at the statehouse Tuesday meeting with legislators and fighting for funding. Without that funding, Ag education leaders say, important programs will be eliminated.

Some of our state’s future farmers, engineers, biologists, and more have been put on a path towards agriculture by what they’ve learned in school. [..]

In recent years, state funding has been whittled down to just $1.8 million from the board of education’s recommended $3 million.

Now Governor Rauner wants to eliminate funding altogether.

This is the second year in a row that Rauner has proposed killing off that program.

- Posted by Rich Miller        

104 Comments
  1. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:45 am:

    Dear IEA,

    Maybe partner up with Ag somehow and make the message about Agriculture, Education, and “the rural Illinois way of life” is being “Zeroed Out” by Gov. Bruce Rauner.

    It’s bigger than one program, people just don’t know that yet.

    With respect,

    OW


  2. - Norseman - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:47 am:

    === … agriculture “the backbone of our economy” in Illinois … ===

    From the man who has no backbone to tell people to their face that he doesn’t care about their priorities.


  3. - sparky791 - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:49 am:

    Halbrook is catching some heat down our way in Shelby county. Says he is a farmer and for farming. Most know him as a fence builder. I guess he counts digging holes as farming. A farming group has since come out and denounced Halbrook as being a farmer and for farmers. Should be interesting race.


  4. - Bloom - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:50 am:

    Because only government can be the source of agricultural education.


  5. - Abe the Babe - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:50 am:

    Governin is hard. Talkn is easy. Lets stick to talkn - Bruce Rauner


  6. - RetiredStateEmployee - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:51 am:

    Actions speak louder than words.


  7. - sparky791 - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:51 am:

    Also hearing some malicious attack ads out against Acklin today from Proft group. Anyone seen them?


  8. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:52 am:

    - Bloom -

    https://www.ffa.org/about/what-is-ffa/ffa-history

    Read. Learn. Get back to all of us.


  9. - CharlieKratos - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:52 am:

    And people are supposed to trust this man’s word? Absolutely nothing will get done for the next 3 years.
    “The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively” - Bob Marley


  10. - Demoralized - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:52 am:

    ==Because only government can be the source of agricultural education.==

    Are you dense? The point is that the Governor talks up agriculture and education in general and then proposes eliminating funding for agricultural education.


  11. - Blue dog dem - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:52 am:

    We spend how much a year on grade school,high school and college sports in this state, and we can’t spend $3 mil on this?


  12. - Huh? - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:55 am:

    To paraphrase 1.4%, we can’t afford a education until the TA is passed to promote a business friendly economy.

    I wonder where 1.4% thinks the next generation of farmers is going to come from?


  13. - DuPage Bard - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:57 am:

    He says one thing to the press and general public in sound bites they eat it up. Then crushes whatever he wants.
    He doesn’t care.
    He never will.


  14. - VanillaMan - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:58 am:

    Don’t bother with him, he is closed minded.
    Go after his supporters.

    Ask Durkin and Radogno why their governor is destroying ag education. Ask all the GOP legislators in ag country why their governor is destroying ag education, while singing its praises.

    Go after Rauner’s supporters. Sniping at Rauner is a waste of time. Trying to reason with him is a waste of time.

    Go after Rauner supporters. Minimize his damage that way.


  15. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:58 am:

    ===Anyone seen them? ===

    Subscribe.


  16. - Ryan - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:58 am:

    Does Droppi G even know which state he governs?


  17. - m - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:01 am:

    Several ag officials are telling people behind the scenes that the Gov says it was a mistake and he has no plan to eliminate ag ed funding.


  18. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:03 am:

    ===Gov says it was a mistake===

    2 years in a row. lol


  19. - SAP - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:04 am:

    Say one thing, do another. It will take the Mother of All MOU’s to get a budget deal done.


  20. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:04 am:

    ===Several ag officials are telling people behind the scenes that the Gov says it was a mistake and he has no plan to eliminate ag ed funding.===

    lol, lots of mistakes are going on…

    Lots.

    Two years in a row? What incompetence…


  21. - Norseman - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:04 am:

    === Several ag officials are telling people behind the scenes that the Gov says it was a mistake and he has no plan to eliminate ag ed funding. ===

    Get that in writing!


  22. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:05 am:

    - SAP -

    … and a Stenographer…


  23. - Saluki - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:05 am:

    And we are still gonna fund the duquoin fair, but no $ for ag Ed. Whatever….


  24. - We Never Learn - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:06 am:

    It seems everything the Governor says is a mistake.


  25. - Anon221 - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:06 am:

    Want to learn more about Ag Ed in Illinois- go to
    http://www.agriculturaleducation.org/

    There is a WEALTH of information, contacts, and reports here.

    Here’s a sample-

    http://www.agriculturaleducation.org/Ag-Ed%20Programs/Reports


  26. - downstate commissioner - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:06 am:

    The Rauner we have come to know and disrespect. And about all we can do is come on here and complain.
    However, maybe now he will have finally revealed himself to the Farm Bureau, many of whose members still think that Rauner has good ideas.
    It is NOT a smart idea downstate to get Farm Bureu members mad at you.
    (Oh, I definitely am not a member of Farm Bureau.)


  27. - We Never Learn - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:08 am:

    at OW @ 10:04

    lol, lots of mistakes are going on…

    Reminds me of this….

    https://youtu.be/aK9OgXRDXxs


  28. - Anon221 - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:09 am:

    This is not the first time this line item in the budget has been zeroed out. Other administrations have done so as well, and the ag ed community has had to roll out again and again to show why these programs are so important to our state. But never as a result of no state budget!


  29. - Abe the Babe - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:09 am:

    I’m sure the downstate GOPers will cry foul in 3…2…1…

    I mean they cried bloody murder when Quinn tried to cut 100k from an Ag convention budget. Surely their love for all things agriculture hasn’t changed.


  30. - More Courage - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:11 am:

    If the Governor’s proposed budget was passed and GSA was fully funded, wouldn’t local school boards have the option of using some of those funds for Ag education? Locals should welcome the flexibility to spend the funds how they feel is best for their school.


  31. - Chucktownian - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:17 am:

    I’m detecting a pattern here. He says one thing and then does another. Hmmm. Isn’t it about time everyone caught on to this? Perhaps we should ponder following the “legislature approval first” recall process?


  32. - Jack Stephens - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:22 am:

    Bruce,

    Where were YOU before “Big Agra” bought up all the farms. The only jobs downstate are in Prisons…with Union workers. Theres no money in farming anymore….unless your big.

    And once the schools are closed we’ll have to open up more prisons. And need to raise taxes for that.


  33. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:23 am:

    - We Never Learn -

    Cicci is one of my favorite “side characters”. Limited screen time, but made it all count.

    Any talk of the “R” word, again, I can’t be more opposed to that idea, and today I’d work against some move. Thank goodness the bar is so high, it’s impossible for Rauner to face such scrutiny for his own decisions.

    Elections have consequences, March 15th, “Vote Accordingly”.

    Then, go after the GOP GA to teach the governor how to govern.


  34. - @MisterJayEm - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:25 am:

    “Several ag officials are telling people behind the scenes that the Gov says it was a mistake and he has no plan to eliminate ag ed funding.”

    I hope someone tells Caprice Williams about that. She could probably use a laugh.

    – MrJM


  35. - JoanP - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:26 am:

    Because who needs food? We’ll just eat the children of the poor.

    (Hat tip: Jonathan Swift)


  36. - blue dog dem - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:26 am:

    Blue dog prediction.November 9, goodbye LGDF.


  37. - sparky791 - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:27 am:

    - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 9:58 am:

    ===Anyone seen them? ===

    Subscribe.

    Do you give scholarships? Or MAP Grants;)


  38. - Huh? - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:29 am:

    Farmer - Do you know where your dinner comes from?

    1.4% - Yes, cook brings it to the table.

    Farmer - Do you know where cook buys the ingredients for your dinner?

    1.4% - Don’t know, don’t care. She just brings it to me.


  39. - northsider (the original) - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:30 am:

    “Several ag officials are telling people behind the scenes that the Gov says it was a mistake and he has no plan to eliminate ag ed funding.”

    Uh-huh. The mistake was that people figured it out.


  40. - Bloom - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:36 am:

    Why does Illinois government need to fund ag education? Why not the ag industry? The truth is more ag education in Illinois will happen outside of this government program — even if it had $3 million, $6 million, $9 million or more — via the private sector yet this blog leaves the impression that ag education will cease without public cash! We need to get away from equating politicians spending other people’s money with valuing an activity.


  41. - Anon221 - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:36 am:

    Jack Stephens- Untrue that there is not money to be made in farming. You need to realize that all farming in Illinois is not thousands of acres of corn and soybeans!

    http://www.agcensus.usda.gov/Publications/2012/Online_Resources/Specialty_Crops/SCROPS.pdf

    https://www.agr.state.il.us/specialty-crop-grant-money


  42. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:38 am:

    - Bloom -

    I don’t think you read from the link I provided.

    Please don’t be a victim to the blog, try adding to the discussion.

    Being a victim here usually doesn’t end well.


  43. - Beaner - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:40 am:

    Dear Rich,
    Enjoy the Perch. Thanks!
    CK


  44. - Anon221 - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:41 am:

    Bloom: “The truth is more ag education in Illinois will happen outside of this government program…”

    *****
    Please, list of us those programs and how they are made available to high school and college students. You might really be surprised at the connections back to Ag Ed funding.

    Read this report, then get back to posting-

    http://www.agriculturaleducation.org/images/editor/2015%20IL%20Ag%20Ed%20Annual%20Report%20LoRes.pdf


  45. - blue dog dem - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:42 am:

    Bloom,why does Illinois have to subsidize the NFL.we spend a heck of a lot more on sports than ag ed. How about this,sales tax on ag equipment.I am sure John Deere and CAT might balk,but who cares.


  46. - Union Man - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:44 am:

    With Rauner in office makes me wish we had a Parliamentary form of state government. The GA could issue a vote of No Confidence and another election held for Gov and the ILGA.


  47. - JS Mill - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:45 am:

    @Bloom- you are correct, Ag Ed, particularly in high schools, will barely notice the impact of this funding loss. Schools get a fairly small amount of money directly from this funding line item. if we asked, our local ag people would fill in the gap. They already contribute so much to our programs, far more than the state, as it is.

    That is not the point. Out of one side of his flannel shirt wearing mouth he talks up the importance of education and agriculture. It is critical, job producers, crucial for our future, yada yada.

    Then he cuts it out completely.

    His words are meaningless, he panders to his audience and that is it.

    He is bowling for “kids” today, tomorrow he will have the bowling alley torn down.

    This is your governor. Please keep up.


  48. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:47 am:

    What’s for lunch today, governor? Seed corn souffle?

    Geez, this guy is just pounding the stuff out of Downstate. Man on a mission. And what a mission.


  49. - Tough Guy - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:47 am:

    Downstate Comm - “It is NOT a smart idea downstate to get Farm Bureu members mad at you.” The Farm Bureau in Christian County thinks he is great and has had him as their guest speaker at events. They think he is doing a wonderful job supporting ag (because he says so.)


  50. - RunBikeSwim - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:48 am:

    *Hat tip to Willy* On point as usual.

    One time is a mistake - two is a policy decision. Ag classes are a major program in many of our rural schools. Zeroing them out will affect not just farmers, but livestock, business, and just plain leadership opportunities for kids. This isn’t a mistake - It’s by choice.


  51. - RunBikeSwim - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:51 am:

    Tough Guy - The lesson to be learned is trust but verify. After listening, we need to see the actions and his actions aren’t matching the words. He says he likes the Ag industry - but he isn’t doing much (other than campaigning).


  52. - Lester Holt's Mustache - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:51 am:

    I still don’t get it. The Gov is supposed to be republican, right? GOP legislators support him at every turn, no matter the issue, and of course they are all solidly republican - according to them. I understand that their voters don’t get too worried about things like demolishing CPS and the other damage caused in Chicago and E Stl. But they go along with him killing off a large part of their constituents support base? Colleges, unionized prison employees, now ag education funding?


  53. - Anon221 - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:56 am:

    JS Mills- this funding might assists your ag ed program on many, many levels, and other districts might not be able to make up the shortfall. The grants alone that are managed through this line item can help purchase much needed texts, supplies, etc. that are usually lined out at the local levels. I just don’t want the SuperStars to read more into your point than they should. They would assume that double-talk is OK if the funds aren’t needed anyway or could be made up for at the local level. When this line item was started, it actually helped save some Ag Ed programs from closure/cutbacks. We really don’t need to go back to the late 1980’s again for Ag Ed!


  54. - olddog - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:57 am:

    === Why does Illinois government need to fund ag education? Why not the ag industry? ===

    A lovely pipe dream, but education has been a government function in Illinois since passage of the Free School Act of 1825. In the real world, the ag industry has other priorities.


  55. - Springfieldish - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:59 am:

    So, the Carhart-wearin Governor of the state with the best Agricultural Program of any university on the planet, wants to defund agriculture education? The word “hogwash” takes on new, prescient meaning.

    Kentucky is dealing with the same hypocrisy:

    http://www.courier-journal.com/story/opinion/2016/03/02/matt-erwin-bevin-higher-ed-plan-shuns-thinkers/81150888/


  56. - Jack Kemp - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:59 am:

    Remember a couple of weeks ago when the governor proposed to fully fund K-12 education and everyone was screaming bloody murder about how unconscionable it was? “How will we EVER pay for this!! We must live within our means!!” Funny how quickly that changes.


  57. - Tough Guy - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 10:59 am:

    RunBikeSwim - Agee with you 100%. Why he isn’t being taken to task on this is beyond me. I guess he figures the ag community doesn’t have anywhere else to go.


  58. - Former Hoosier - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:00 am:

    At what point are the large media outlets going to seriously question Gov. Rauner about the multiple inconsistencies between what he says and what he does? He says- agriculture is the backbone of IL. economy…he says educational funding is critical…but he proposes eliminating all funding for agricultural education.


  59. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:05 am:

    Thanks - RunBikeSwim -. Appreciate it.

    If it’s framed as a big ole fib from the Governor, ok.

    If it’s framed as a tool beyond education or school, or farming, but about “Ag in Illinois”, that will have some more teeth and bring more into the foray.


  60. - northsider (the original) - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:05 am:

    Bloom=== Why does Illinois government need to fund ag education? Why not the ag industry? ===

    Do you mean:
    === Why does Illinois government need to fund education?==

    That’s the trajectory your thought line follows.


  61. - Lester Holt's Mustache - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:07 am:

    ==At what point are the large media outlets going to seriously question Gov. Rauner about the multiple inconsistencies between what he says and what he does?==

    Thats not going to happen, not as long as Friends of Bruce own said media outlets.


  62. - rocky - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:10 am:

    When do we get rid of this guy?


  63. - burbanite - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:13 am:

    Governor do as I say not as I do.


  64. - Johnnie F. - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:13 am:

    Maybe the Gov can post another twitter picture with FFA students like he did during this identical moment last year. That will show the world how much he supports their Ag Ed program.


  65. - Springfieldish - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:13 am:

    Kemp - “Remember a couple of weeks ago when the governor proposed to fully fund K-12 education and everyone was screaming bloody murder about how unconscionable it was? “How will we EVER pay for this!! We must live within our means!!” Funny how quickly that changes.”

    Actually, Jack, I don’t remember anyone saying what you put in quotation marks. Care to enlighten us with a source?


  66. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:13 am:

    - rocky -

    In 2018, you can “vote accordingly”, like Labor did in 2014 against Quinn… but I digress.

    Elections.

    Elections have consequences.


  67. - Nick Name - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:17 am:

    “Because only government can be the source of agricultural education.”

    “Why does Illinois government need to fund ag education? Why not the ag industry?”

    Something that benefits the common good is not only a legitimate government function, it’s a necessary government function. Especially when it’s vital to a region’s or a state’s economy.

    This is why we also spend public money on roads, so that necessary supplies — seed, feed, fuel, for example — can be transported to the farm, and so that product — harvested crops, animals ready for slaughter — can be transported to the market.

    As necessary as it is to use public funds on roads to keep everything moving, it’s even more necessary to use public funds for ag education: so that as much product as possible can be squeezed out of the raw materials used in production.

    Does this help?


  68. - VanillaMan - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:20 am:

    Why does Illinois government need to fund ag education? Why not the ag industry?

    I’ll come at it a different way. Imagine that you would like the ag industry to fund ag education. Imagine that you just want them to help, if they could. Let’s go with your idea.

    Now - is this how you’d do it? You would defend a governor who seems to take no steps to find a new funding mechanism for ag education before zeroing out all state funding? Is that how you handle things like this? At your house, or at your business? You just cut it off and let it fend for itself? What is that, tough love? Out of desperation, there would be found a brilliant solution? Is that how you think this should be handled?

    If you did, you wouldn’t be very smart, would you? You would never let those children and schools dependent upon state funding, so without, if you thought you could get the ag industry to pitch in in part, or in full. You wouldn’t say you didn’t accidentally zero out the funding and leave it at that. You wouldn’t do it TWO YEARS in a row!

    You see, what you are proposing is what a good conservative and creative governor would do. Fund an important part of our state’s heritage and education while finding new ways to keep it going without state funding.

    You would do it that way, right? As a matter of fact, all governors would do it that way. For almost 200 years, that is how governor handled these kinds of things.

    So - why are you defending Rauner on this? What he is doing is being a bad governor. You are defending his bad governing by throwing out a scenario that can help - but isn’t in place. It is time you realize that the problem is not the money.

    The problem is Bruce Rauner. He isn’t shaking up Springfield. He isn’t reforming government. He is neglecting it and then covering up his negligence with happy talk, lies and spite. You, and his other supporters are letting him do it too.

    Stop it. It is time that we all, liberal and conservative, Democrat and Republican, start demanding that Bruce Rauner stop making a bad situation worse with his bad governing.

    He has been in office over a year and he has done nothing to help anyone. No one is getting ahead in Illinois with this governor. No plans. No help. No governing. It is time that you and other Rauner supporters start demanding some accountability from Bruce Rauner.

    Then tell your GOP leaders what you want too. Rauner won’t listen. Talk to your GOP friends. They never wanted what Rauner is giving us and it is time we find a work around for his foolish administration - don’t you agree?


  69. - Skeptic - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:21 am:

    * Gov. Rauner has repeatedly called motorcycle riders “the backbone of our economy” in Illinois.

    There, fixed it. Now it all makes sense.


  70. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:21 am:

    === Why does Illinois government need to fund ag education? Why not the ag industry? ===

    It’s always helpful when the Raunerbots forget the approved spin and reveal the true mind-set.

    TS knows what I’m talking about.

    Yes, why, indeed, would the State of Illinois support agriculture education? That’s a real brain-teaser.

    Check the governor’s rhetoric. He doesn’t believe any of it, or mean it, but he’s got the reasons down.


  71. - Jack Kemp - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:23 am:

    Springfieldish,

    Sure.

    https://capitolfax.com/2016/02/17/rauner-to-propose-hiking-early-childhood-k-12-spending/

    Particularly the comments from “Mason born” @ 10:59. But the rest of the comments really share the general tenor here. If the Governor so much as thinks about it, it MUST be wrong.


  72. - Anon221 - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:23 am:

    Some history-

    Agricultural Education has a solid track record. More than 70 percent of agriculture’s graduating seniors enter postsecondary education.

    It’s working. The program has experienced a steady increase in the number of students in high school agricultural/horticultural education programs and FFA. 89 percent of students are non-farm students, 38 percent are female, and 8 percent are minority.

    It serves more and more student high school graduation needs. 78 percent of the departments allow agriculture courses to fulfill high school graduation requirements in academic areas of science, consumer education, math, language arts, and social studies.

    An average $1824 in state incentive funding is awarded to local programs to purchase state-of-the-art equipment and curriculum materials. Incentive funding has saved many agricultural programs from extinction as well.

    Online curriculum with more than 1200 agricultural lesson plans have been developed and are provided free of charge to Illinois agricultural teachers. The material, which is based upon Illinois Learning, Occupational Skill and Workplace Skill Standards, is now being used in 42 other states and the curriculum has been adopted in its entirety in 14 states.

    http://www.agriculturaleducation.org/Ag-Ed%20Advocacy/Why-Ag%20Ed


  73. - AnonymousOne - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:30 am:

    Rauner did this? I thought all the damage in the state was caused by Madigan?


  74. - sparky791 - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:32 am:

    I am pretty sure Ruaners carharrt jacket supports ag ed funding, I am just no so sure about Rauner himself.


  75. - How Ironic - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:35 am:

    Comon’ people, can’t you see the light? By denying the Ag students a path to higher education, he’s simply giving them the ‘right to work’ faster than they anticipated. Maybe it’s more ‘forced into the workplace unprepared, but whatever’.

    RTW baby…


  76. - Rocky - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:43 am:

    As I did before as I will do again.


  77. - SAP - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:44 am:

    =…and a Stenographer…== Maybe anyone who speaks to the Governor needs to be outfitted with a body camera.


  78. - Groundhog Day - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:51 am:

    the fact that it is apparently impossible is ruining my Lent. Because now I start each day hoping and almost praying for the biological demise of our Governor. And I know that is wrong. I wish I could hope for less sinful options. But I have been convinced they are not possible. So I guess I will again wake up tomorrow hoping for the only way out I can see. You leave me no options.


  79. - JS Mill - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:58 am:

    Since he proposes that ed funding increase, where is that Ag money going?

    Mind you, this is the same governor that has tried to use the downstate v. Chicago wedge pretty heavily lately. Maybe that $3 million is part of the CPS bailout. /s

    @Anon221- clearly you are passionate about Ag ed. I appreciate that.


  80. - Austin Blvd - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 12:00 pm:

    Some perspective…
    If a Democrat governor were to cut Ag education, the kids, their parents and farm groups would be screaming bloody murder about the cuts and “not recognizing our way of life.”
    But with a Republican governor, they don’t complain as loudly because, as the Farm Bureau has stated, some cuts are necessary.
    Well then, those cuts are more ok.


  81. - Arthur Andersen - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 12:00 pm:

    FWIW, the last time I saw BVR on the Harley, there was an FFA pin on his biker dude vest.


  82. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 12:08 pm:

    ===If a Democrat governor were to cut Ag education===

    Quinn did cut it.

    Don’t be a partisan victim.


  83. - Anon221 - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 12:09 pm:

    Candidate Rauner-

    http://brucerauner.com/rauner-rolls-out-agriculture-coalition-and-key-supporters-from-the-agricultural-community-across-illinois/

    Question- how do the members of that Coalition feel now???


  84. - burbanite - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 12:12 pm:

    I interpreted the objections to the k-12 funding differently than you did Mr. Kemp. The Governor is proposing, INCREASED funding for k-12 with no new revenue source to pay for it. Oh and funds have been taken from special ed and moved to regular ed for some of his “increases” in education funding. Despite his repeated protestations to doing anything without a new revenue source ie. the billions of dollars we have to trust will be realized by gutting collective bargaining.

    I objected that day b/c it needs to be an all or nothing deal. No budget no k-12. My kids friends can’t return to college, tens of thousands may not have a college to return to. But, the legislature is supposed to approve increased k-12 with “no games”. Seriously!

    Listen to his press conference on Education from earlier this week, listen to the whole thing objectively. He has no credibility at all.


  85. - Austin Blvd - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 12:17 pm:

    =Quinn did cut it=
    He didn’t eliminate it.


  86. - JS Mill - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 12:49 pm:

    =Quinn did cut it.=

    He killed us on transportation too. He wanted to eliminate the funding stream. As it is we are getting:

    50% of 80% of 70% of 100% of our entitlement (literally).

    Still, I would rather have that than what higher ed is getting.


  87. - Chicagonk - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 1:01 pm:

    Sorry if this sounds callous, but this $1.8M line item basically funded a grant giving organization that gave $1,800 to high school that offered agriculture classes. There are 777 high schools in IHSA. Giving them all $1,800 would only cost $1.4M.


  88. - Demoralized - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 1:07 pm:

    ==If the Governor so much as thinks about it, it MUST be wrong.==

    Are you done playing the victim yet? I’;m really getting tired of this victim nonsense by some of you. Grow up already. It’s pathetic.


  89. - Anon221 - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 1:11 pm:

    Chicagonk- Please do your homework. This line item is much more than that. I posted plenty of research links for you. Don’t try to “least denominate” this.


  90. - Springfieldish - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 1:21 pm:

    Jack Kemp: First, items within quotation marks are generally things people actually said, not your spin on it.

    Second, while I respect many commentators here, I’m not buying either quoting their hyperbole, or hyperbolizing their comments and then putting them in quotation marks. What you put it quotation marks wasn’t in the substance of the actual post.

    Third and perhaps most importantly, the funding itself wasn’t really the issue, it was the lack of parity in the distribution of those funds and the various tricks used by the governor to claim he ‘fully’ funded education.

    Your’s appears to be a straw-man game. Not gonna play. Wouldn’t be prudent.


  91. - Nieva - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 1:27 pm:

    Gallatin County has under 5 thousand people in it. Ag is the largest business in the county. The school is the largest employer. We depend on funding for our largest employers. Send us your money Chicago and we will send you food. Until then I guess you can eat concrete.


  92. - G'Kar - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 1:32 pm:

    Agriculture isn’t farming, it is a business. So, instead of Ag classes, the students need to take business classes!/s


  93. - Blue dog dem - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 1:48 pm:

    U of I extension programs (4H) can’t be far behind.


  94. - Whatever - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 2:02 pm:

    ==Several ag officials are telling people behind the scenes that the Gov says it was a mistake and he has no plan to eliminate ag ed funding.==

    Did they actually hear that from Old Yellow Stain himself, or just from good sources?


  95. - TD - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 3:24 pm:

    This is just standard operating procedure for Rauner. Falsehoods, empty promises, pompous speeches without substance, and indifference towards anyone outside his echo chamber or wine club.


  96. - TD - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 3:26 pm:

    If you’re going to take a stance as Governor, then take it and defend it. Have some courage in your leadership.


  97. - Mama - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 3:32 pm:

    Raymond Poe can explain why Ag Education is important for rural high school students. The question is: Will Rauner listen to his advice?


  98. - Anon221 - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 3:34 pm:

    Mama- Yes he could, but will he? Will he just sit there and repeat the “no money” mantra? Helplessness seems to run rampant in R bloodlines these days.


  99. - Mama - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 3:37 pm:

    “FWIW, the last time I saw BVR on the Harley, there was an FFA pin on his biker dude vest. ”

    AA, if I was a member of the FFA, I would ask for the pin back.


  100. - Lynn S. - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 11:46 pm:

    Mama 3:37–good one!

    @Blue dog dem - Wednesday, Mar 2, 16 @ 1:48 pm:

    U of I extension programs (4H) can’t be far behind. ———-

    Part of the money for Extension comes from the Feds. Rauner can’t muck that up as badly as he can Ag Education in general, but I’m sure he’ll try.

    I was down home last month, on a weekday, to do some personal business. Stopped at the local extension office, and it turns out the new secretary is one of my favorite folks from high school. She and I had a very sad discussion of how declining rural populations and year-round club sports have decimated character-building youth programs like 4-H and Scouts. When I was growing up, we had about 12 4-H clubs in our county. Now down to 6, and concerns that one club may fold soon…


  101. - Honeybear - Thursday, Mar 3, 16 @ 7:22 am:

    I have a fondness for FFA having grown up in Oklahoma. You can feel the pride from those kids as they wear their jackets. The FFA group at my kids HS is great. I wish there was something I could do besides raise awareness and take down Kay in the fall.


  102. - Anon221 - Thursday, Mar 3, 16 @ 8:28 am:

    Honeybear- my first post didn’t go through.

    The Illinois FFA Foundation is one way to support FFA in Illinois. $10 or $20 adds up. You can do this through your local FFA Chapter or online:

    http://www.illinoisffafoundation.org/


  103. - Honeybear - Thursday, Mar 3, 16 @ 8:49 am:

    Actually they are having a breakfast I think next weekend. I’ll try to make it. I can contribute then. Thanks Anon 221. I still feel it’s important to fund this via a budget. Budgets show priorities of an administration. I also know that the arts are going to get zeroed out.


  104. - Anon221 - Thursday, Mar 3, 16 @ 8:54 am:

    Honeybear- Thanks for your support of the Blue and Gold:)


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