Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » AFSCME calls JT allegations “misinformation”
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
AFSCME calls JT allegations “misinformation”

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2017

* Yet another e-mail to state employees…

Dear Colleagues,

As AFSCME leadership conducts its campaign for strike authorization, we will continue to provide accurate information and clarify any confusion that employees bring to our attention.

On that note, we learned yesterday of what appears to be a troublesome attempt to discourage voting by those who are inclined to vote against a strike. We learned that some union representatives were telling employees that not participating in the strike vote would be the equivalent of a “no” vote. However, a week ago AFSCME’s spokesperson said, “a vote of more than 50 percent of those voting would grant the bargaining committee the authorization to call a strike if necessary.”

Based on that statement, what the reps were saying yesterday is wrong. We hope the union confirms that by not voting, you have no say in the strike authorization decision.

The decision to vote is yours and yours alone, and we will respect your choice either way. Our obligation is to make sure you have accurate information. To that end, please continue to reach out with questions and concerns and refer to the Labor Relations link on team.illinois.gov.

Sincerely,

JT
John Terranova
Deputy Director
CMS Office of Labor Relations ​

Emphasis added because that’s a pretty serious allegation.

* From Anders Lindall at AFSCME Council 31…

The truth is plain and simple: We want every AFSCME member to vote, and they’re doing so by the thousands right now.

If the Rauner administration would seek compromise instead of spreading misinformation, we’d be at the bargaining table.

- Posted by Rich Miller        

32 Comments
  1. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:27 pm:

    Well, if the bolded portion is not true, does that make sending the email an unfair labor practice?

    Maybe it’s just some Alternate Facts?


  2. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:27 pm:

    JT’s assertion is ridiculous! More “fake news”. The union wants as many people as possible to vote, so we can figure out the level of support for a strike.


  3. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:27 pm:

    Please make these JT emails stop. I’m not a legal expert, but this can’t be legal. It certainly is unethical. Can’t someone slap him upside the head with a ULP complaint or ethics violation?


  4. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:28 pm:

    Am I missing the bombshell here?

    I’m not convinced the Administration is trying to push people towards voting for a strike vote. This continued harassment can’t lead to any other conclusion. Every time one of these e-mails comes out the anger of the employees builds.


  5. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:28 pm:

    Sorry. I AM convinced


  6. - BeenHereB4 - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:30 pm:

    If John Terranova’s emails were at all factually accurate, you could justify continuing to be harassed by them.

    They are not. They are always riddled with lies. So…

    Right click on the email, move your curser down to the word “Junk”, slide it over to “Block Sender” and click. Then click OK.

    Now take a deep breath and let it out.
    You are now Terranova free.
    Feels good doesn’t it?


  7. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:32 pm:

    ==some union representatives were telling employees that not participating in the strike vote would be the equivalent of a “no” vote.==

    ==We want every AFSCME member to vote==

    Both of these statements can be true. I don’t see a denial by AFSCME of the allegation.


  8. - Truthteller - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:32 pm:

    The Rauner Administration is giving the Trump White House a run for its money- who can tell the biggest, boldest lies most frequently. Terranova is a trained fiction writer


  9. - Cheryl P - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:36 pm:

    I really wish people would learn to use the word “lie.”

    It’s not misinformation. It’s a lie.


  10. - Truthteller - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:38 pm:

    “Both of these statements could be true”
    They could be, but they are not. What is true is that both the above quote and the original allegation were made by unidentified sources.


  11. - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:44 pm:

    TROLL!


  12. - Anon - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:49 pm:

    This is a strike authorization vote. I can’t imagine that the bargaining committee would consider a 50%+1 vote a strong support for the strike regardless of the turn out, but if they got 95% of 40% of the members?

    Is that strong support or lack of support?

    As many votes as possible is the only way to determine accurately where folks are standing.


  13. - Reese's Pieces - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:50 pm:

    They must have learned this from the same person(s) who said that AFSCME was striking on September 1st.


  14. - Robert the Bruce - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:50 pm:

    Which union reps? If Rauner’s shop really learned this, name names.


  15. - Ratso Rizzo - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 2:50 pm:

    Just blocked all emails from JT. No more nonsense in my mailbox.


  16. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 3:07 pm:

    “Baghdad John”


  17. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 3:16 pm:

    Somebody choosing not to vote has the identical mathematical outcome as a vote No.
    it’s math, not spin. JT needs to think again.


  18. - Earnest - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 3:28 pm:

    >From Anders Lindall at AFSCME Council 31

    Brief, concise statement. Nice to see some improving messaging.


  19. - Honeybear - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 3:42 pm:

    We’re doing just fine but thanks for the assist JT. Your emails have put people over the line! Stopping JT’s emails was cited over and over again as the reason they got out to vote YES!
    Thanks JT and thank you Governor Rauner

    United as never before.


  20. - A. Nonim Mouse - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 3:42 pm:

    the first strike chant has been written….

    “it’s math, not spin. JT needs to think again.”


  21. - Silent Budgeteer - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 3:45 pm:

    I’m wondering if this is just an attempt to mislead those AFSCME members who are participating in the vote. I can see the situation as follows: a union representative explains that casting a blank ballot is the same as a “no” vote, because the vote percentage would be based on the total number of ballots cast, not the total number of ballots that specifically said “yes” or “no”. For example, say there are 10 yes votes, 8 no votes, and 3 blank ballots cast. The percentage of “yes” votes is 10/21, or less than a plurality; it’s not 10/18, which is majority. It’s similar to the way votes are counted when the state votes on constitutional amendments.

    To get a true feeling of the membership, the union would want a “yes” or “no” vote on each ballot, with no blank ballots. It seems that JT is trying to make it look like there are problems where there may not be any.


  22. - blue dog dem - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 3:52 pm:

    Honey. From one union brother(sister) to another. Stop with the over the top union cheerleading. if you have ever been involved in a lengthy strike, you would realize that it is a life altering experience. Homes will be lost. Marriages ruined. Special occassions forgotten. This is a time for prayer and thoughtful compassion.

    That being said, good luck, and promise me you will let readers know were to send support. It is never enough, but small items of support remind you that you are not alone.


  23. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 3:55 pm:

    I can say there has been confusion as to where someone that doesn’t vote would be considered a no vote, along with the fact that if 50% of eligible voters vote, and 51% of those vote for a strike, is it 74% against, or 51% in favor of a strike.

    It does not surprise me that union stewards would be confused as well, after all this has never happened before.


  24. - Honeybear - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 4:04 pm:

    Thanks for the concern troll Blue Dog Dem! I’m touched. Yep, I’m cheerleading because I am on fire with the holy ghost of Labor! I’m encouraged by what I am hearing and seeing with my own eyes! Labor is rising! Believe me or not. Berate me if you will. I rest in the action of my sisters and brothers which I have witnessed.

    It’s kinda like that Churchill quote. Union members always do the right thing. After every other option is taken. I’m paraphrasing but you get the gist.

    Come on now old Blue, come on over to the other post and let’s bash EDGE for a bit. What say?


  25. - Whatever - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 4:07 pm:

    Even if the email is right about what “some union representatives” are saying, the conclusion drawn from that fact is pure speculation about the purpose or motives of the representatives. And the conclusion does not seem plausible to me. I would interpret it as an attempt to get out the vote, not to suppress it. As Anon. @ 2:49 points out, a non-vote IS a no vote. What matters is the percentage of members who approve a strike, not the percentage of those who voted. As an extreme example, if only 10% vote, AFSCME does not have a mandate to strike even if 100% of the votes are for a strike.
    If I had to judge motives based on only the facts in this email, I would conclude that JT is lying.


  26. - Triple fat - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 4:38 pm:

    Now let me tell my fellow members what a No vote is. If you vote no and the strike vote goes down… you will be re-electing Rauner!


  27. - AC - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 5:07 pm:

    Thanks JT, your reminder “by not voting, you have no say in the strike authorization decision” will help AFSCME get out their members to vote.


  28. - Cardsfan - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 5:47 pm:

    JT apparently needs more work to do. 3 emails in 3 consecutive work days, and the 9th email since August 5th!!


  29. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 6:21 pm:

    ==JT apparently needs more work to do. 3 emails in 3 consecutive work days, and the 9th email since August 5th!!
    ==

    One could say the same about some State workers posting on here during work hours…


  30. - Jim - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 7:05 pm:

    The Republicans are proposing a national right to work legislation in the US senate. That coupled with the fact the Supreme Court will hear the Cali Teachers case with the newly appointed justice….. unions won’t exist in 2 years.


  31. - Cardsfan - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 7:18 pm:

    =One could say the same about some State workers posting on here during work hours=

    Not all state workers work day shift Mon-Fri. Just as an FYI


  32. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 31, 17 @ 8:15 pm:

    So JT and the union agree,all AFSCME members need to vote!


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Question of the day
* The great Rauner pivot of 2017
* Rauner's rollout
* Kennedy's "revolution"
* Plummer jumps into crowded field
* Report: HQ2 incentive package could top $2.25 billion
* More support for overriding Rauner veto of debt transparency bill
* *** UPDATED x1 *** Yet another problem at DCFS
* Will Illinois really break the spending record?
* Ives gears up, Walsh waits in wings
* *** UPDATED x1 *** "I’ve had hands up my skirt. I’ve had my hair pulled - There’s just kind of nothing you can really do"
* Rauner's federal pension idea allows "some level of bankruptcy"
* *** UPDATED x1 *** Dems pounce on new Rauner ad
* Poll: Pritzker leads Kennedy and Biss 39-15-6
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Rate the Rauner campaign kickoff video
* Yesterday's stories

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............
<


Loading


* More Rauner, Democrat showdowns on tap in fall .....
* More Rauner, Democrat showdowns on tap in fall .....
* More Rauner, Democrat showdowns on tap in fall .....
* More Rauner, Democrat Showdowns on Tap in Fall .....
* More Rauner, Democrat showdowns on tap in fall .....
* More Rauner, Democrat showdowns on tap in fall .....


* More Rauner, Democrat showdowns on tap in fall session
* Illinois panel to propose plan for adult education, literacy
* Chicago-area executives sentenced in school-fraud case
* Judge: Trump's health care cuts don't pose immediate threat
* South Bend a hot market for football weekend home rentals
* Child deaths spike in Illinois after DCFS privatizes program
* Peoria man charged in 1994 murder in suburban Chicago
* Man found guilty in death of student trying to sell his car
* Future of king salmon uncertain in Great Lakes
* Judge in Schock case sticks to finding against prosecutors

* Child deaths spike in Illinois after DCFS privatizes program
* Illinois, other states ask judge to keep health subsidies that Trump cut
* Democratic attorneys general unite against concealed-carry gun law
* Gov. Rauner makes re-election bid official with video
* Governor's race could be costliest in U.S. history
* Voter advocates push Illinois to exit multistate database
* Lawmakers set to return Tuesday for veto session
* Illinois Lottery's new manager projects $4B in sales
* UIS students could study at newly proposed Chicago research center
* Aaron Schock attorneys contest federal claims on misstatements

* Illinois asks judge to keep health subsidies that Trump cut
* Here are the key questions Rauner didn't answer today
* How Oscar Munoz spooked United Airlines investors
* Chicago's offer to Amazon: $2.25 billion in incentives
* Threadless acquires Bucketfeet


* Police warn of catalytic converter thefts on NW Side
* IG: 163 staffers barred from CPS employed at charter, contract schools
* Georgia Nicols horoscopes for Oct. 24, 2017
* Dear Abby: Teen failing school, blames absent dad
* 2 decades later, man charged with killing elderly Lisle woman in 1994
* Man charged with killing woman, hurting 2 others in SW Side stabbing
* Violent 6 hours on Monday leave 1 dead, 6 wounded in Chicago shootings
* Man, 22, shot in Rogers Park
* Man faces charges after being found inside car in Evanston dealership
* MITCHELL: Gold Star Family disputes President Trump’s version of facts


* China's Communist Party inserts Xi's name, ideology into constitution in symbol of his power
* Teachers barred from Chicago Public Schools found work at city charters, inspector general says
* Chicago police seek answers in slaying of father of 3, killed after attending rock concert
* Kenya braces for a disaster of an election
* 5 Michigan teens charged with murder after rock thrown from highway overpass kills man
* Small Montana firm lands Puerto Rico's biggest contract to get the power back on
* Climate change already costing U.S. billions, GAO report says
* 1 dead, 7 wounded in separate city shootings
* Cubs assistant Eric Hinske takes hitting coach job with Angels
* So many people want to read Stephen Hawking's Ph.D thesis that they're crashing a Cambridge website


» Chicago Charter Schools Hire 163 Public School Staffers Banned For Misconduct, Including Sexual Abuse
» 4 Takeaways From Gov. Bruce Rauner’s Re-election Launch
» Retired Judge Richard Posner: ‘I’m Forming Nationwide Pro-Bono Group’
» EPA Looks At Cleanup Alternatives For Lead-Contaminated Indiana Site
» Lawmakers Push For Transparency In State Debt
» Rauner Makes Re-election Bid Official With Video
» Where Can Homeless People Pitch Tents In Chicago?
» Voter Advocates Push Illinois To Exit Multistate Database
» Lawmaker Says Facebook Refuses To Fact Check Ads
» State Week: Chasing Amazon, Bonding Debt


* By Marc A. Thiessen: Virginia's Gillespie is tireless campaigner focusing on issues voters care about
* Child deaths spike in Illinois after DCFS privatizes program
* Illinois, other states ask judge to keep health subsidies that Trump cut
* Democratic attorneys general unite against concealed-carry gun law
* Gov. Rauner makes re-election bid official with video
* George Will: The fatal conceit of planning for the future
* Our View: Overriding this veto is a no-brainer
* Governor's race could be costliest in U.S. history
* Statehouse Insider: Will veto session show GOP revolt?
* Our View: Figure out how to make Innovation Network a reality


* Augustine Joseph “Joe” Segretario
* Karen Sue Spradling
* Lyle Lee
* David Clemons
* Etta Kilpatrick
* Thomas Ellis
* Roger Schroeder
* Cheryal Gosnell
* James Gibbs
* Nelson Brimm


* Wentz tosses 4 TDs, Eagles beat Redskins 34-24
* Beal scores 20 points, Wizards beat Nuggets 109-104
* Booker, Suns top Kings 117-115 for 1st win
* Condos, not hotel in St. Charles' First Street plans
* Bruce Rauner makes re-election bid official with video

* Will Trump continue to unravel Obama's leg...
* Democratic 14th Congressional District can...
* GOP congressmen say Rauner 'let down' Illi...
* Hultgren aims to help employers close the ...
* Naperville's Lauren Underwood to run for R...
* Measure extends term of FSOC independent m...
* Bipartisan group of lawmakers pushes job t...
* Hundreds of high school students tour Smit...
* Teacher raised in Yorkville running agains...
* Dissident artist Ai Weiwei and US Rep. Ran...

* Democrats urge President Trump not to shri......

* The Senate must protect families and rejec......

* 13 Days Of Xmas
* Chicago Electric Fireplace TV Stand
* Until Youth Soccer Is Fixed, U.S. Men's National Team Destined To Fail
* JFK assassination docs do provide a nice distraction (for Trump) from flaws
* Roundy's Recall: 16,320 Pounds Of Chili And Soup Products
* Stop Driving Kids Crazy
* Amazon slime.
* Will work for $2.5 billion.
* Jason Plummer enters race to replace Sen. Kyle McCarter
* Rauner launches campaign kickoff video


* Illinois Awarded Funds to Offer Advanced Training on Detecting Impaired Driving
* Illinois EPA Announces Upcoming Household Hazardous Waste Collection Events
* IEMA Highlights Emergency Preparedness for People with Access and Functional Needs in May - Ready Illinois website offers preparedness tips for people, caregivers
* First Lady Launches Illinois Family Connects
* Governor and Lt. Governor Unveil 2016 Journal of Local Government Shared Service Best Practices

  
* Apple Support Doc Highlights In-Car Wireless Chargers That Work With iPhone 8 and 8 Plus
* Third Man Charged in 2014 Celebrity iCloud Phishing Attacks
* New York to finally move on from MetroCard to Apple Pay and other NFC formats
* Google ships Pixel 2 that failed QA while other units click and beep
* Apple Pay in New Zealand Expands to BNZ
* Sprint and T-Mobile skip earnings calls amid merger rumors
* Pixel 2 Real Audio Review: Let’s talk about headphone dongles… (Video)

* Sox Century: After the World Series
* Podcast: 2017 White Sox Pitchers and Catchers season review
* Steep climbs ahead for oft-injured White Sox
* #AwardWorthy: Vote for Engel's glove
* Sporcle Saturday: Long bombs
* Petricka undergoes surgery on right elbow
* Avisail sees similarities in rebuild, stellar year


Main Menu
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

Archives
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

Syndication

RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0
WordPress




Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller