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*** UPDATED x1 - Radogno urges “Present” votes *** This just in… Cullerton intends to start taking votes
Wednesday, Feb 8, 2017 - Posted by Rich Miller * From Senate President John Cullerton’s spokesman John Patterson…
There is some question about whether the Republicans want to vote today. Plenty of pressure out there to delay at the moment to try and get a better deal. But, as I told subscribers this morning, the Democrats are raring to go. So, they may wind up going alone. But as Patterson says, things are subject to change. As always, keep a close eye on our live coverage post for instant updates. *** UPDATE *** Senate Republican Leader Christine Radogno is urging her fellow Republicans to vote “Present” on the first bill in the grand bargain - local government consolidation. Looks like the Democrats are going to have to go it alone today.
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- swIFT taylor - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 1:22 pm:
time. to. govern.
- blue dog dem - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 1:22 pm:
Going to be interesting to see who controls my new state sen Schimpf voting strings.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 1:24 pm:
–There is some question about whether the Republicans want to vote today.–
Like any other day in the 21st Century, when it comes to tough votes for realsies.
- Fax Machine - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 1:30 pm:
How does the delayed pay work for calculating the last year for GARS pensions? Are there long-timers in the House who will push to just get this passed (assuming Senate passage), knowing they’ll step down at the end of 2017 with a huge pension bump?
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 1:33 pm:
===with a huge pension bump? ===
Nope.
- Fax Machine - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 1:34 pm:
Thanks Rich - asking for a friend
- Arsenal - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 1:45 pm:
Blergh. Whole thing blows up if Democrats go it alone.
- RNUG - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 1:58 pm:
Hope it stays bi-partisan. That’s what is needed to box in both the House and Rauner.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:01 pm:
Appears the governor’s so-subtle message via his attack dogs got through.
A two-by-four to the head over the course of a few days can get your attention.
- Thoughts Matter - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:06 pm:
GOP to vote present. What a surprise. Can’t commit or do their jobs.
- Norseman - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:08 pm:
Is the grand bargain, grinding bottom?
Sigh!
- The Captain - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:14 pm:
Missing: put the Illinois Republicans on the back of a milk carton. These guys haven’t voted for anything since Y2K was a thing.
Also, why are the Democrats giving up anything in these negotiations if they’re the only ones voting for them?
- MOON - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:14 pm:
There will never be a “Grand Bargain” unless Rauner gets his “Turn Around Agenda”.
Cullerton is being naive if he thinks any different.
- Reluctantly Living in ILL - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:16 pm:
Rauner has been opposing this while publicly implying he supports it.
Shut the state down and let Rauner take the blame. Go Lisa Madigan.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:18 pm:
Dan Proft and IPI are winning?
Is that where this is at?
Also, John Patterson’s stock continues to rise. Read how he’s going about his business. No word jumbles.
Appreciate the work.
- Tommydanger - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:19 pm:
Instead of term limits, how about eliminating the ability to vote “Present.”
Pick a lane!!! Stand for something! Anything!
- walker - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:19 pm:
Radogno has to tell her members not to vote for the compromise bills that she, and some of them, personally worked out? Wow! She deserves better.
That probably means some of their caucus are caving to direct and indirect pressures from Rauner. Rauner’s initial reaction to the bills, however the message was purveyed, was “Not good enough. Hold out for more.”
If Radogno’s caucus members don’t support each other, then they cannot hold the line. Can this situation be saved?
- Arsenal - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:22 pm:
What a revolting display by the Senate Republicans.
- Cubs in '16 - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:23 pm:
===Rauner has been opposing this while publicly implying he supports it.===
But…he went off script and everything! /s
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:23 pm:
===If Radogno’s caucus members don’t support each other, then they cannot hold the line. Can this situation be saved?===
This is the reaping of what was sowed;
The complete removal of autonomous caucuses. Now Rauner is reaping, destroying compromise by implosion.
And it only cost him $20 million… for openers.
Breaks my heart.
Indeed, Leader Radogno deserves better.
- swiFT taylor - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:32 pm:
Hey SGOP, $50 million called - it said, “vote present”
- Arsenal - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:37 pm:
Well, so much for that. Hope was fun while it lasted.
- Sense of a Goose - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:39 pm:
Profiles in courage
- swiFT taylor - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:40 pm:
pres cullerton for the impersonation and the win! wow, how must those words taste?
- AC - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 2:51 pm:
There’s no point in Democrats taking tough votes supporting provisions which are unpopular with their base if there aren’t also some Republican votes on the board.
- Arthur Andersen - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 3:40 pm:
If the whole deal topples over because of Cullerton’s unconstitutional pension bill, should the R’s wear the jacket for that?
- blue dog dem - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 3:41 pm:
Just an fyi. State Sen Schimpf clealy shows why Illinoisians don’t care about higher ed. You would think that the guy who represrnts a good chunk of SIUC would be raring to get a budget deal done. He won in a landslide. Now you know old Blue sees first hand how higher ed needs a haircut, but this Schimpf fellow appears to be a clone of Rauner. He wants to hold the line on revenue increases but when it comes to spending cuts, reverts back to the old waste, fraud and abuse theme. No specifics. Just another politically minded partisan dud.
- OurMagician - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 3:55 pm:
I remember way back when he was first running, Chapin Rose claimed to have a budget ready for Illinois that he had prepared since he went line by line through the budget at that time. Now, he’s just like the rest of them, no courage to step up and make the difficult choices. Hasn’t had a D opponent for years but yet….
- Anon - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 3:59 pm:
Looks like more credit downgrades are inevitable. When downgrades happened on Quinn’s watch, Rauner said it was the governor’s fault. Of course he will blame the next downgrade on Madigan.
- Duh - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 4:01 pm:
** What a revolting display by the Senate Republicans. **
Please. Both sides are guilty in this mess. If the Dems want this, then they should have the courage of their convictions and pass it. They won’t however, because both sides are more interested in playing “gotcha” politics than in doing their jobs.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 4:09 pm:
=== If the Dems want this, then they should have the courage of their convictions and pass it.===
Unless it has 37 and 71, why do it?
Rauner has the veto, and Rauner has made clear, “no compromise”
What else?
- Rod - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 4:10 pm:
The truth is, Senator Radogno could not even enforce discipline on the call for a “present” vote on SB 3. Only six Republicans in addition to herself voted “present” the rest all voted “no” if they were in the chamber for the vote.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 4:12 pm:
–The truth is, Senator Radogno could not even enforce discipline on the call for a “present” vote on SB 3. Only six Republicans in addition to herself voted “present” the rest all voted “no” if they were in the chamber for the vote.–
That was a kick in the teeth. Tells you who the real boss is, if anyone still had doubts.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 4:13 pm:
My phone can’t “count noses”… 71 and 36.
This premise that a grand bargain should be usurped by Dems “going alone” isn’t a political possibility, it’s a mathematical impossibility. Today.
- Free Set of Steak Knives - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 4:15 pm:
Republicans are going to have a hard time explaining to opinion leaders why they voted against their own “grand bargain.”
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 4:16 pm:
===Republicans are going to have a hard time explaining to opinion leaders why they voted against their own “grand bargain.”===
No they won’t.
The only opinion that matters is Rauner’s. Did you not relearn anything today?
- Piece of Work - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 5:05 pm:
GOP pulling a Barack Obama
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 5:17 pm:
–GOP pulling a Barack Obama–
Wow, that’s some fresh material. I bet that slays at open mic night at the senior center.
Got any Y2K jokes?
- PoW - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 6:27 pm:
Word, I had them rolling in aisles laughing with that one. Profoundly true. Some things have staying power!!
- Generic Drone - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 6:32 pm:
Todays’ republican party in a nutshell….feign cooperation…impede any progress. Next comes the blame Madigan routine. Grow a pair republicans.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 6:40 pm:
Dems should not pass anything without rep. Votes. If rep don’t want to step up to table let them take blame.
- PoW - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 7:18 pm:
Yep, nationally the R’s are on the ropes Generic. Sheesh. Could it be the Dems are so dysfunctional that nothing will work in this state. Look at Illinois, look at Chicago
- softail - Wednesday, Feb 8, 17 @ 10:16 pm:
Geez, isnt 2 years long enough? Cant the Gov. rethink his “Rauner makes money agenda” and take a compromise so this state can move on. Maybe the the middle class won’t get crushed as bad. Yes, I’m a GOP and very embarrassed of my party. Will rethink my votes when election time comes. No, I didn’t vote for Bruce.
- Free Set of Steak Knives - Thursday, Feb 9, 17 @ 6:51 am:
=== the only opinion that matters is Rauner’s ===
Editorials still matter to these guys. And not just the Chicago Tribune.
They are about to realize that the Grand Bargain is their only chance to fund personnel, so there is that as well.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Feb 9, 17 @ 7:20 am:
===Editorials still matter to these guys. And not just the Chicago Tribune.===
No. No they don’t.
You’re not paying attention.
Plus, Rauner has had his control over the Edit Boards, less Crain’s, so there’s that too.
(Sigh)
- Arsenal - Thursday, Feb 9, 17 @ 8:57 am:
==Look at Illinois==
Illinois has a Republican Governor, did you not notice that?
==look at Chicago==
You mean the only part of the state that businesses are moving to, instead of fleeing?