Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » Birth certificate bill clears committee
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Birth certificate bill clears committee

Wednesday, Mar 15, 2017

* From the ACLU…

House Bill 1785, sponsored by Representative Greg Harris, this morning cleared the House Human Services Committee by a vote of 7 to 4. The bill would update and modernize a more than half-century old rule by eliminating an antiquated surgical requirement that prevents countless transgender and intersex Illinoisans from changing the gender marker on their birth certificate to match their gender and the gender marker on their other state and federal identification documents. The bill now goes to the full House for a vote.

The following can be attributed to John Knight, Director of the ACLU of Illinois’ LGBT and HIV Project:

    The Committee today took an important step to protect people in Illinois who are transgender or intersex. No one should face the dilemma of being denied a birth certificate that conforms with their gender simply because they are unable – or cannot afford – to undergo surgery that the medical community agrees is not necessary for everyone who transitions.

    Illinois should join the federal government, thirteen other states, and the District of Columbia in allowing people to change the gender marker on their birth certificate without surgery. People who are transgender and intersex should make their own medical decisions with the guidance of medical health professionals—not politicians. We thank Representative Greg Harris for his leadership, and we hope the House acts quickly to pass this bill and send it to the Senate.

The legislation is here.

* From the Illinois Family Institute’s David E. Smith…

This morning, the Illinois House Human Services Committee held a hearing on a highly controversial proposal that would legalize fraud through the alteration of birth certificates by gender-dysphoric persons who wish to have the government reinforce their deceit.

The bill passed on a party line vote, 7 Democrats voted yea, while 5 Republicans voted no.

State Representative Greg Harris (D-Chicago), who represents Chicago’s gay community known as Boys Town, is one of three openly homosexual members of the Illinois General Assembly and an LGBT activist, is once again pushing this deceit, as he did last session.

HB 1785 would amend the Vital Records Act to allow transgender Illinoisans to easily change their gender and name on their birth certificate. According to HB 1785, all that would be needed is for a licensed health care worker or mental health professional to issue a declaration that the gender dysphoric person has undergone “gender transition treatment,” which doesn’t necessarily include surgery.

Take ACTION: Click HERE to send an email message to your state representative to ask him/her to reject HB 1785 and uphold birth certificates as legal documents. The state of Illinois has no duty or right to make it easier for men and women who wish they were the opposite sex to falsify their birth certificates. Ask your lawmaker to vote NO to the Birth Certificate Designation Act, HB 1785.

I just don’t understand how people can get so worked up about a relatively small bill like this. I mean, how, exactly, does it hurt you if somebody else changes their own birth certificate?

But, as Rep. Kelly Cassidy said at a press conference today, “There’s a lengthy pattern of punching down, if you will, looking for people who you perceive to be beneath you and aiming your attacks there.” She called transgender folks the “target du jour.”

And as Rep. Greg Harris said today at the same press conference, in a high-security era where all your various documents need to match up and your documents need to match your appearance at, say, airport security checkpoints, the bill is actually needed.

* Related…

* End “panic defense” for attacks on gays in Illinois: Defendants in very recent trials have invoked panic defenses, including a 2011 California case involving the shooting death of a 15-year-old boy by a male classmate. Defense attorneys argued that the victim, Larry King, provoked his death because he asked his killer to be his Valentine. The jury was hung.

- Posted by Rich Miller        

32 Comments
  1. - Liberty - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 11:46 am:

    No point in having sex on a birth certificate anymore.


  2. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 11:48 am:

    How many Republicans are on the committee? Was it 7-5, or 7-4?


  3. - Thoughts Matter - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 11:48 am:

    Rich -

    You do so understand. There is a tendency for people to want others behaviors to match their own moral and religious beliefs. If they can’t persuade other people to change their behavior, then they try to legislate it.

    It’s the same religious beliefs as those about same sex marriage, Alcohol sales or car sales on Sunday, planned parenthood, etc. Yet, these same people that want to dictate others’ behavior are extremely outspoken when another religion wants to dictate theirs.


  4. - JohnnyPyleDriver - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 11:49 am:

    agreed rich, I don’t get the hostility. WHo cares what people do if it makes them happy and doesn’t affect you?


  5. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 11:55 am:

    Geez, such outrage. Did David Smith have a personal experience with what he calls “deceit” or something?

    Or is he just trolling for money on an issue that’s truly none of his business and impacts him in no way?


  6. - MissingG - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 11:59 am:

    I know that the committee testimony of the IFI is “news”, but can we stop giving a platform to an organization that has been designated as a hate group by the SPLC?


  7. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:01 pm:

    ===but can we stop giving a platform===

    1) Ignoring a problem won’t make it go away.

    2) Get your own blog if you don’t like it.


  8. - Workin' - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:01 pm:

    Unclear on the concept: “legalize fraud”? If we change the law, then it is no longer illegal.


  9. - Henry Francis - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:04 pm:

    Take a breath Davey boy. First off, Harris represents the 13th District, not Chicago’s gay community. Second off, Chicago’s gay community is not known as Boys Town. Third off, Boys Town isn’t even in Harris’ District. Fourth off, your opinions demonstrate clearly that you are an ignoramus.


  10. - PJ - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:04 pm:

    Classic IFI. Rude, homophobic, and blatantly pandering to hateful people. The justification that this is somehow about “falsifying” anything is comical. It’s about going after transgender people because they don’t like them.


  11. - Anon - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:09 pm:

    === The bill passed on a party line vote, 7 Democrats voted yea, while 5 Republicans voted no. ===

    Republicans are consistently on the wrong side of history. Most of them voted No on civil unions and same-sex marriage, as well as on medical marijuana.


  12. - Grand Avenue - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:13 pm:

    Birth Certificates - meh

    “Ending the Panic Defense” is an awful idea. Why is the legislature getting involved in the Courtroom like that. Defendants have the right to a defense and we shouldn’t be taking away their right to make arguments that, if backed by evidence, lead jurors to believe there is reasonable doubt. The onus is on prosecutors to combat bogus defenses, not the legislature.


  13. - Saluki - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:16 pm:

    “pandering to hateful people.”

    A CBS news poll recently found that only 25% of Americans are on board with the Transgender movements push to allow people to use the bathroom of the gender they “identify” with. That’s alot of “hateful” people. You might consider that the I.F.I. is representing people with a different point of view. That does not make them hateful, regardless of what the SPLC might have the I.F.I. listed as in an excel spreadsheet.


  14. - Springfield Since '77 - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:22 pm:

    Birth Certificates are legal document and as such can and are used for legal reasons such as, unfortunately, identification of missing persons remains. Age, Gender (yes gender, not sex). If it doesn’t matter anymore, then I believe it should be removed, then there is no need for it to be changed…


  15. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:23 pm:

    ===If it doesn’t matter anymore===

    Who says it doesn’t matter?

    It’s like the people who wanted to get rid of marriage when gays wanted to get married. Ridic. Deal with it.


  16. - MissingG - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:32 pm:

    Saluki,
    Another recent poll:
    “Just over half (53%) of the roughly 2,000 people interviewed for the survey in February said they oppose such measures, including roughly two-thirds of Democrats (65%) but just over one-third of Republicans (36%). In total, about 40% said they support such measures, with about one-in-ten saying they had no opinion on the subject.” http://time.com/4698392/transgender-bathroom-bill-poll/

    But it’s important to note that whether an idea is popular or not is not a good measure of whether or not it’s hateful


  17. - @MisterJayEm - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:33 pm:

    “I just don’t understand how people can get so worked up about a relatively small bill like this. I mean, how, exactly, does it hurt you if somebody else changes their own birth certificate?”

    When some folks give up on getting their own hopelessly flawed lives in order, they then dedicate themselves to minding other people’s business.

    – MrJM


  18. - A Jack - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:50 pm:

    I am okay with the bill as long as they don’t rename Boy’s Town to Girl’s Town. I draw the line at buying a new map.


  19. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:53 pm:

    Antiquated? Illinois was one of the first states in the USA to recognize transgender rights by permitting such persons to change their birth certificates and to apply for marriage licenses after surgery.


  20. - Anon - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:55 pm:

    Popular support for transexual rights is low today, just as it was for gay rights 20 years ago. It is only in the past year or so, however, that trans issues have come to the forefront of the news and popular consciousness. Is there anyone who thinks viewpoints on trans rights won’t change just as inexorably as opinions changed on marriage equality?


  21. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 12:58 pm:

    An op-ed in the Sun-Times referenced the murder of Matthew Shepard in arguing for the repeal of the panic defense. Notably, the op-ed dealt with the murder as a homophobic hate crime while not mentioning the drug deal turned violent elements of the same crime.


  22. - @MisterJayEm - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 1:06 pm:

    Looks like you don’t do so well dealing with others legit opinions.

    Looks like you don’t do so well dealing with others deciding your opinion isn’t legit.

    (Can you now see the utter lameness of that type of response?)

    – MrJM


  23. - Gooner - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 1:16 pm:

    OK, I’m pretty liberal on social issues, and although I don’t view this as a big deal, I do oppose it for two reasons.

    First, the birth certificate is an historical document. It reflects that at the time of birth, the person has a certain anatomy. Subsequently, it might change, but at that moment, that was the physical characteristic.

    Second, although I have a ton of respect for Rep. Harris, from a tactical perspective this really does not help. Too many moderates and conservatives view all Democrats as focusing on extremely narrow social issues. It really plays into the hands of the Republicans in swing districts. It takes away from the focus on Democrats fighting for jobs, etc. and replaces it with the perception that Democrats care about only certain narrow social issues.

    Again, I back Democrats on most social issues but this does not seem like sound policy or sound politics.

    For what it is worth, a better alternative would be to simply remove the line from the birth certificate. Why not just go with “A child was born on DATE to PARENTS at LOCATION and WEIGHED X.” That would seem to be both accurate and politically easier. It it more difficult for right wing groups to be outraged over the deletion of a line on birth certificate.


  24. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 1:21 pm:

    Is it a form of stereotyping that Representative Harris had to sponsor this bill? I feel the same way when a television new show assigns reporters based upon the location of a news story according to race.


  25. - A Jack - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 1:48 pm:

    I don’t know about the panic defense though. Wouldn’t the reasonable person rule over come that defense in most of the cases cited?


  26. - Dan S - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 1:49 pm:

    What about a budget??????????????????


  27. - Thoughts Matter - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 1:50 pm:

    Gooner-

    When a child is adopted,( even if one of the parents is on the original birth certificate) a corrected birth certificate is issued. Often the birth name is changed too.

    I see your point, but a corrected birth certificate works for this instance too.


  28. - @MisterJayEm - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 3:17 pm:

    “No point in having sex on a birth certificate anymore.”

    You’re doing it wrong.

    – MrJM


  29. - 32nd Ward Roscoe Village - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 3:24 pm:

    “When a child is adopted,(even if one of the parents is on the original birth certificate) a corrected birth certificate is issued.”

    Yes and that sometimes has humorous consequences. My mother married my dad, a widower with 3 kids and then had three more. When my mother adopted the three older ones, the oldest of them was just 17 years younger than my mother, so the birth certificate substituted her name, and then her age and occupation at birth, which was 17 and then “Student” since she was still a high school student when he was born. Kind of funny.


  30. - BK Bro - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 4:08 pm:

    If we take it off birth certificate, do we need to take it off of driver’s licenses too? Seems like it’s just easier altogether to just leave gender out completely.


  31. - Bill from nowhere - Wednesday, Mar 15, 17 @ 5:26 pm:

    Can’t pass a budget, can’t pay bills, millions impacted, people losing their jobs. But, they can take care of this? They play the lyre while illinois burns.


  32. - Rabid - Thursday, Mar 16, 17 @ 5:54 am:

    Body modification and chemical therapy or lack of it is the pursuit of happiness to be born again


TrackBack URI

Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* CTBA: Property tax freeze would cost schools up to $830 million a year
* Cook Political Report moves Rauner reelect from "Lean Republican" to "Tossup"
* Candidates at the Pride Parade
* Caption contest!
* *** UPDATED x1 - Pritzker campaign responds *** Dueling press releases
* Um, no
* Special session roundup
* Rauner loves going over reporters' heads, and he did it again
* Rauner criticized for "campaign" trip to Iowa during special session
* Illinois' First Lady to speak at Chicago City Club today
* *** LIVE *** Special session coverage
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Yesterday's stories

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............
<


Loading


* Madigan, like Rauner, lists 'non-budget' demand.....
* Illinois could be 1st state with 'junk' credit .....
* Cook Political Report moves Rauner reelect from.....
* Madigan, like Rauner, lists 'non-budget' demand.....
* Madigan, like Rauner, lists 'non-budget' demand.....
* Special Session Continues - Alton Daily News..
* Madigan, like Rauner, lists 'non-budget' demand.....
* Madigan, like Rauner, lists 'non-budget' demand.....


* Madigan, like Rauner, lists 'non-budget' demands for deal
* UberEATS, McDonald's offering delivery in Pittsburgh-area
* Correction: Peoria History Tours story
* Body found in submerged car identified as missing woman
* EXCHANGE: Soccer meets golf in 'footgolf' at golf course
* New tax on soda, sugary drinks starts July 1 in Cook County
* New tax on soda, sugary drinks starts July 1 in Cook County
* The Latest: Remy Ma beats Minaj for BET's hip hop honor
* Activists push to save rare wetlands on school property
* Proposed golf course at Obama Library draws criticism

* Speaker Madigan lays out non-budget demands
* Madigan lays out non-budget demands
* Activists push to save rare wetland on school property
* Illinois House looks at school funding, but not budget
* Illinois could be 1st state with 'junk' credit due to budget
* House looks at school funding, but not budget
* Tourists like the Statehouse, not the gridlock inside of it
* Mendoza: By August, there won't be enough tax money to cover expenses
* Mendoza issues warning while leaders argue
* People like the building, not the gridlock

* How a 29-year-old built the fastest-growing company in Chicago
* Like our roundup? Share it around.
* As McDonald's pulls up stakes, what's next for Oak Brook campus?
* Some of the shine has come off Morningstar
* Keep your tax breaks. Give us workforce training.


* Martellus Bennett ranks Jay Cutler third of QB he’s played with
* Madigan, like Rauner, lists ‘non-budget’ demands for deal
* Man killed, 4-year-old injured in crash with squad car in NW Indiana
* Cubs scout’s son on life support after being hit by baseball
* UFC fighter appears to defecate herself while getting choked out
* Reilly pushing ‘order’ to close Ohio Street underpass
* Avis teams up with Waymo on self-driving car program
* Video: Baez shares the meaning of his tattoos in ESPN’s ‘Body Issue’
* Man beaten to death in home in Calumet Park
* Nestle stock surges amid reports US hedge fund takes stake


* Former Elk Grove library employee charged with sexually abusing teen girl
* Supreme Court reinstates part of Trump travel ban, will hear case in the fall
* LINDA C. BLACK HOROSCOPES for 6/26/17
* Award-winning children's author surprises Arlington Heights student with impromptu visit
* Confederate monument in St. Louis to be removed this week
* Philando Castile family reaches $3M settlement in death
* Mamby on the Beach a winning mix of mood, tunes and Chicago vibe
* 30 days of Chicago's best barbecue
* Highlights from Tribune's live coverage of Pride Parade
* Kelly Clarkson ribs Blake Shelton, Blackhawks ahead of Soldier Field performance


» After Long Opposing Rauner's 'Non-Budget' Demands, Madigan Has Three Of His Own
» Photos: Chicago LGBT Pride Parade Parade 2017
» Photos: Chicago LGBT Pride Parade 2017
» State Week: Special Session Begins
» When Will Illinois *Really* Run Out Of Money? Could Be August
» Prosecutors Seek To Uphold 'Making A Murderer' Confession
» Budget Impasse Makes Future Of Sojourn Shelter Unclear
» Bulls Trade Butler To Timberwolves, Go All In On Rebuild
» Illinois Experiments With High Schools Of The Future
» Senate Democrats Urge Republicans To Compromise On Budget Deal


* Mark Grant: Small Businesses — Special session an opportunity to fix Illinois' budget problems
* George Will: Baseball's pace of play needs some juice
* Speaker Madigan lays out non-budget demands
* Madigan lays out non-budget demands
* Activists push to save rare wetland on school property
* Bernard Schoenburg: Rauner talks of being happy, energized during impasse
* Illinois House looks at school funding, but not budget
* Illinois could be 1st state with 'junk' credit due to budget
* Statehouse Insider: Rauner's unity speech brought out the partisanship
* Our View: Illinois on the precipice of disaster of unknown proportions


* Best of the week: 9 things to do this week
* No one injured after shots fired in Murphysboro Sunday; suspect is in custody
* 18U Black Widows repeat as NAFA state champions
* Urbana nixes hotel renovation project
* O’Fallon man, woman killed when motorcycle hits deer, is struck by SUV
* O’Fallon woman killed, man critically injured when motorcycle hits deer, is struck by SUV
* Madigan, like Rauner, lists 'non-budget' demands for deal
* Confederate monument in Forest Park will be removed by Friday, city officials say
* 200 Millstadt residents without landline 911 service
* What's that funny-looking house?


* District 73 residency event set for August
* Free concert July 1 in Round Lake Beach
* Supreme Court reinstates Trump travel ban, will hear arguments
* Aldi reopens three remodeled stores
* IN Forecast

* Hultgren pushes for job training, educatio...
* Northern Illinois Congressman Co-Sponsors ...
* Bipartisan HOME Act Introduced to Protect ...
* Students from St. Charles, Batavia among c...
* Payments in the future will be sent like t...
* Randy Hultgren: US should remain on UN cou...
* Rep. Randy Hultgren constituents decry sec...
* Hultgren backs Trump; suburban Democrats d...
* Fundraiser, protest set for Illinois GOP r...
* Duckworth Calls Republican Healthcare Bill...

* Chicago Police Gain Access To ATF Ballisti......
* Devastating consequences could come for Il......

* Duckworth Calls Republican Healthcare Bill......

* Rahm Emanuel: Trump has transformed the Republican base, and other Chicago news
* 'Maybe The Worst FCC I've Ever Seen'
* Illinois tax hikers plan phone-in tax hike demand next Tuesday
* Cook County, A Soda Tax, and the Death of an Economy
* For federal oversight of police reform to work, pressure from the community must continue
* Illinois Policy Institute calls for lawmaker pay delay until budget passage
* Despite gains, Illinois' cities have yet to erase the job losses of the recession
* Driven: The Story Of The First African American Inducted Into The NASCAR Hall Of Fame
* SB1. Bev Johns testifies today before the House Appropriations Committee.
* Psychopath CEOs Destroy Value


* Illinois Awarded Funds to Offer Advanced Training on Detecting Impaired Driving
* Illinois EPA Announces Upcoming Household Hazardous Waste Collection Events
* IEMA Highlights Emergency Preparedness for People with Access and Functional Needs in May - Ready Illinois website offers preparedness tips for people, caregivers
* First Lady Launches Illinois Family Connects
* Governor and Lt. Governor Unveil 2016 Journal of Local Government Shared Service Best Practices

  
* Google promises to put a stop to Gmail content scans for ‘ads personalization’ later this year
* Google's 'Uptime' App for Watching YouTube Videos With Friends No Longer Requires Invite Codes
* [Video] OnePlus 5: Unboxing & Hands On
* HMD brings ‘highly anticipated’ Nokia 6 to the US at $229 GSM unlocked
* LG Innotek to Begin Mass Producing Flexible Printed Circuit Boards With Eye on 2018's 'iPhone 9'
* Specifications for new Pixel 2 devices, Taimen and Walleye, revealed
* Uptime, YouTube’s experimental app for watching videos with friends, opens to all

* White Sox tab Holmberg for opener vs. Yanks
* Podcast: #56 Forever
* White Sox Minor League Update: June 25, 2017
* Holland solid for 6 innings, but bullpen falters
* Holland solid for 6 innings, but bullpen falters
* Engel takes Gray deep for 1st career homer
* Holland solid for 6 innings, but bullpen falters


Main Menu
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

Archives
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

Syndication

RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0
WordPress




Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller