Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » *** UPDATED x2 - Motion withdrawn *** House Dems put hold on minimum wage bill after passing it
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
*** UPDATED x2 - Motion withdrawn *** House Dems put hold on minimum wage bill after passing it

Wednesday, May 31, 2017

* AP

The Illinois House has approved a proposal that would raise the state’s minimum wage to $15 an hour over five years.

House lawmakers voted 61 to 53 Tuesday.

* But

Lawmakers approved the bill with a 61-53 vote largely along party lines, but Rep. Jay Hoffman, D-Swansea, filed a motion to keep it from moving to the Senate. Democratic Rep. Will Guzzardi said supporters were working to make sure the measure had enough support in the other chamber.

* SJ-R

After the legislation passed, Rep. Jay Hoffman, D-Swansea, put the bill on hold in the House. Guzzardi said the move was to ensure “all their ducks were in a row” before sending the bill to the Senate.

“It’s just some procedural work that we’re trying to do on our side to make sure everything is in order,” he said. “I’m still optimistic that we’re going to get this thing passed to the Senate and onto the governor by the end of the day tomorrow night.”

The Senate has passed several minimum wage bills in the past only to see them die in the House.

So, the bill’s passage took just about everyone by surprise yesterday, both in the House and in the Senate, which hadn’t yet met in caucus to talk about the bill. They even had to change the Senate’s chief sponsor yesterday to the person who normally handles this issue.

There’s a lot of suspicion and finger-pointing, with some senators believing that Speaker Madigan is playing his usual games with the issue and may not send it to the Senate until it’s too late, and some House members worried that the Senate can’t pass the bill. We’ll see.

* Meanwhile

Rep. Scott Drury, a Highwood Democrat who has often split with Madigan, took the opportunity to bash the leaders of his party for failing to call the wage hike for a vote when they had veto-proof control of the General Assembly or when there was a Democratic governor. Drury suggested that the Democratic leaders had called it for a vote in order to put the Republican governor on the spot.

“I am truly, truly concerned that what is going on here is that Maria, that one of our colleagues spoke about, is being used as a pawn to embarrass our Republican governor,” Drury said, referring to a minimum wage worker whose struggles to make a living were pointed to by Democratic lawmakers during debate on the floor. “It’s all about the left embarrassing the right and the right embarrassing the left.”

Drury is right.

*** UPDATE 1 ***  As of 4:42 this afternoon, the motion to reconsider has still not been removed.

*** UPDATE 2 *** The motion to reconsider has been withdrawn.

- Posted by Rich Miller        

73 Comments
  1. - Louis G. Atsaves - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:25 am:

    Well said Representative Drury. And I can’t believe that I am saying this, considering that he is my state representative thanks to gerrymandering.


  2. - Ducky LaMoore - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:28 am:

    If we would just do the sensible thing and index the minimum wage to inflation the problem would be more or less solved. But then how could politicians survive with one less football?!


  3. - Two O's in Goose - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:35 am:

    Drury’s right except that the woman’s name is Gloria.


  4. - Lance Mannion - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:35 am:

    When you are advancing something you know is popular with some of your constituencies but will hurt business, small employers especially, and likely cause more harm than good … run the bill, make lots of noise and then go back to doing nothing. #GoodDemGoverning


  5. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:39 am:

    ===hen you are advancing something you know is popular with some of your constituencies but will hurt business, small employers especially, and likely cause more harm than good … run the bill, make lots of noise and then go back to doing nothing. #GoodDemGoverning===

    Hmm…

    “When you are advancing something you know is popular with some of your constituencies but will hurt schools, municipalities especially, and likely cause more harm than good … run the Ads, make lots of noise and then go back to doing nothing. #GoodRauneritePoliticin’… ”

    Better


  6. - Texas Red - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:42 am:

    It takes Drury, a Dem that went off the reservation to get the truth out !


  7. - TopHatMonocle - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:44 am:

    A new low for Rep. Drury? He literally dehumanized a person who’s advocating for a policy that will allow them to provide for their family. His colleagues see a human being who’s struggling, and he sees a pawn in a game. Pretty offensive in my opinion. And if he’s so embarrassed to vote for Dem policies, maybe he should just make it official and cross the aisle.


  8. - Anonymous - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:45 am:

    Lance,

    Can you hook me up with some data on higher minimum wage hurting small business? Sure you pay your people more. But so do your competitors. And now the folks on the street have more to spend.


  9. - HistProf - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:46 am:

    Sorry. 10:45 was me.


  10. - Lucky Pierre - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:46 am:

    The fact that this bill treats huge corporations and mom and pop businesses as well as Chicago and Cairo and other small towns the same indicates this is not serious legislation, just another attempt to gin up class envy, appease liberal interest groups and not solve serious problems. Mission accomplished


  11. - Real - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:56 am:

    The house better send this bill to the Senate.


  12. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:58 am:

    - Louis G. Atsaves -

    Right or wrong, Drury is Rauner’s new Ken Dunkin.

    Mr. Drury… Word of advice. While today, the hypocrisy of both sides allows the easy target, keep this in mind…

    “Raunerites come as your friends, the people who confuse you all of your professional life, and they always seem to come at a time when you’re at your weakest and most in need of their help.”

    If you think you’re gaining friendships, look to Ken Dunkin…


  13. - Responsa - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:02 am:

    Perfect by the book politics. They get the national headlines and then let it die because they know it’s bad for Illinois’ economy and bad for their re-election prospects.


  14. - Odysseus - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:03 am:

    While Drury is correct that doing the right thing when it was easy would have been great, it’s still the right thing to do.


  15. - Lance Mannion - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:09 am:

    O.W. — It’s okay to stay on the topic which was this bill, where the Dems are playing games. As Drury said, for 12 years the Dems had sole control of Springfield & didn’t really lift a finger on min wage. Now that they have pushed it through both Chambers … this? Yeah, it’s Rauner’s fault. Lol.

    Anonymous– Raising min wage beyond inflation and in this instance by over 80% will cause a significant loss in jobs, particularly, teenage employment and jobs that can be easily automated, and will cause an increase in expense of goods and services to pay for the big min wage increase.


  16. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:12 am:

    Um, no… - Lance Mannion -

    No, I’m waiting for you to call out the hypocrisy of Rauner that, since you emerged, you have to done.

    I know calling it both ways is a concept that may confuse you, I dunno.

    Keep up with what’s going on or just admit your willful ignorance or blissful unaware-ness.

    Capiche?


  17. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:12 am:

    Hey DEMS I’m a union front ranker. I’m the tip of your spear.

    I’m the one who shows up every time to

    Canvas door to door

    I’m the one who mans the phone bank

    I’m the one who gets others out there with me.

    I don’t speak for Labor or any Local

    I’m speaking for myself as your front ranker

    You brick this and we’re going to have the ” Quinn fever” all over again.

    I never got Quinn fever. I fell in line and pushed in the Othismos

    But 2/5 hoplitai didn’t take the field.

    I am passing it up the chain of command that a lot of purple will not take the field.

    I need every shield I can get.

    Maybe they don’t need purple people

    Maybe the loss of PLA’s in MO has gotten the trades on board

    Again I’m front rank, a promachos.

    I just now that in the past I counted on

    purple always showing up.

    Don’t brick it.


  18. - Arock - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:13 am:

    More political shenanigans by the Democrats. As was stated they could have taken care of the minimum wage issue and many others such as the progressive tax when they had complete power. It is all election posturing.


  19. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:15 am:

    ===More political shenanigans by the Democrats===

    Hmm.

    What do you call the two rounds of robocalls and the popup ads?

    - Arock -, calling out partisanship only works when you call it both ways.


  20. - Texas Red - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:24 am:

    HB

    “Hey DEMS I’m a union front ranker. I’m the tip of your spear”

    You are also being mollycoddled by the Dems at the expense of all compromise.


  21. - Robert the 1st - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:28 am:

    This post is about Democrats playing embarrassingly predictable politics. Yelling at posters for somehow not blaming Republicans is beyond bizarre.


  22. - Evanstonian - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:37 am:

    Madigan’s lack of desire to pass this when it could have, you know, passed is the perfect example of why Rauner won in 2014.


  23. - Nick O'Time - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:38 am:

    == Sure you pay your people more. But so do your competitors. And now the folks on the street have more to spend. ==

    History Prof - not exactly.

    I was employed at one of the soon to be former Illinois regional universities when Blagoevich and the Dems enacted a minimum wage increase of about 20% - from roughly $5.15 to $6 and change.

    The university’s administration responded by reducing the number of hours available for student workers by 20%.


  24. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:51 am:

    Bite me TR

    You speak of compromise

    Replublicans don’t want compromise

    They want total capitulation.

    How many times has it been said Rauner

    Can’t take a win

    Only the election will possibly end this war

    Thus I was talking to DEMS not you

    I was talking to those who take the field.

    Not you, a Pais


  25. - Arock - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:51 am:

    OW, I have attacked both sides of the aisle as being the problem in the past, my statement stands they are only using the minimum wage issue for election fodder as they had more than enough chances in the past decade to fix this issue and others that are supposedly dear to their hearts. With the exception of a few Republican Governors the State has been mostly controlled by the Democrats the last few decades so they deserve the brunt of the criticism for the mess they had the most control over.


  26. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:56 am:

    - Arock -

    “Both sides” is a cop-out, but already know that.

    If you’d like to point out specifically where you take Rauner task for the same theatrics, I won’t mind.

    Your partisan points, have at it…

    ===With the exception of a few Republican Governors the State has been mostly controlled by the Democrats the last few decades so they deserve the brunt of the criticism for the mess they had the most control over===

    LOL!

    Speaker Daniels, President Phillip, in 1994 all constitutionals and both chambers were Republican-Controlled.

    Again… Willfully ignorant, or blissfully unaware?

    “No, I’ll let you choose which one”… lol


  27. - Deft Wing - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 12:01 pm:

    Of course, OW is right. It’s Rauner’s fault that Dems couldn’t get the minimum wage increase legislation passed during the Blago & Quinn eras, despite vast Dem majorities in both chambers! Duh. So too now, Rauner’s put that brick on the bill through deft maneuvers unseen in IL via mind-control of Jay Hoffman. Duh, it’s all Rauner’s fault.

    Or, Drury is absolutely right.


  28. - Anonymous - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 12:14 pm:

    HistProf—If your theory is correct, why limit minimum wage to $15? If it was $25-$30/hour, wouldn’t that be better for everyone?

    Interesting that you are a History Prof and not an Econ or Finance Prof.


  29. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 12:28 pm:

    If we want academic input how about from Yale Econ profs.

    Minimum wage and retail price pass-through
    By Ganapati and Weaver

    Excellent study

    Upshot raising minimum wage doesn’t effect prices.


  30. - MacombMike - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 12:29 pm:

    >>Speaker Daniels, President Phillip, in 1994 all constitutionals and both chambers were Republican-Controlled.

    For how long?


  31. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 12:38 pm:

    - MacombMike -

    The Google is your friend.

    Daniels held control for one session, while Pate held the Senate a decade. From January 1995 thru January 1999, the GOP held all the constitutional offices.

    Then George Ryan…

    then Jim Ryan - Rod Blagojevich, Quinn… Rauner.


  32. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 12:45 pm:

    ===It’s Rauner’s fault that Dems couldn’t get the minimum wage increase legislation passed during the Blago & Quinn eras, despite vast Dem majorities in both chambers===

    Where did I say that? Ranting and raving without facts to your argument isn’t making an argument. Putting me in your argument isn’t making an argument either.

    ===So too now, Rauner’s put that brick on the bill through deft maneuvers unseen in IL via mind-control of Jay Hoffman. Duh, it’s all Rauner’s fault.===

    Rauner’s hypocrisy, along with your own seems to be the robocalls for unhelpful things to a budget…

    … or if you’re on a computer and popup ads interrupt your work for Rauner’s political hypocrisy to a budget.

    I dunno, - Deft Wing -.

    Making it about nothing I said kinda shows your own lacking in self awareness to hypocrisy(?)


  33. - Anonymous - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 12:57 pm:

    I’ll read that report Honeybear. Does it say anything about an impact on workers hired, workers fired, hours worked per week, etc.?

    Do they suggest paying people $15, $20, $25 per hour if there is no impact on prices?


  34. - cdog - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 1:07 pm:

    Folks really don’t realize what a $32,000 per year dishwasher in downstate IL will do to a family business.

    If an increase in avg worker wages is what the goal is, legislate a cap on ratio between executive compensation to avg worker pay.

    If company XYZ was told the days of 200:1 are over,and if historical norms like 30:1 were legislated by Progressive Illinois politicians, the might get closer to accomplishing their goals.

    Leave the little fish, small businesses, out of your crazy and dangerous nets.


  35. - Last Bull Moose - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 1:08 pm:

    This is tiresome. It is about embarrassing not governing. I put the $15 minimum wage in the same category as the property tax freeze, sounds good and does considerable harm.

    The more expensive labor is, the more likely that the process will be automated. If you want to speed automation, pass the $15 minimum wage


  36. - Colby jack - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 1:24 pm:

    ## Upshot raising minimum wage doesn’t effect prices.##

    Malarkey.

    Labor is the highest cost in nearly every organization, public or private, and has a direct impact on margins. If competition won’t allow a business to raise prices due to higher labor costs, then guess what, workers get shown the door.


  37. - blue dog dem - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 1:25 pm:

    Kinda reminds me why Dems never ran with a progressive income tax when they had a chance. They no more care about the working poor and middle classes than.
    A. Man on the moon
    B. rauner
    C. Repubs


  38. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 1:29 pm:

    Cdog a worker to CEO ratio or cap is a red herring and you know it.

    Honestly, I’m all about mainstreet instead of Wall Street. I think small business should almost have no taxes. Maybe a few fees here or there.

    Mid and large corporations should be taxed and loopholes eliniminated. Large corporations are assessed but rarely actually pay anything in

    I think this might help small business afford 15

    Look up “velocity of money”

    The low wage worker plows every cent back into the local economy.

    Income inequality is what we must all fight together.

    In the 70’s a high school educated logger made the equivalent in today’s dollars of 78,000.


  39. - Robert the 1st - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 1:34 pm:

    A high school educated truck driver can still make $78k.


  40. - Texas Red - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 1:38 pm:

    Income inequality is an invented term by the left. The flip side of income inequality is the idea that in a free market economy based in a republic from of govt, there will be winners and losers. If someone feels like they don’t have enough money I would suggest you work harder than the next guy/gal, find a mentor, move to find better opportunities, better your skills via educational opportunities, but please don’t make the rest of us overpay for low skilled labor in the name of an invented idea !!


  41. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 1:44 pm:

    Sorry Dante, ad hominem is not going to work. Try citing sources and concepts as I have done to debate the topic.

    It’s what you choose to support
    Corporate needs
    Or
    Human needs.

    I choose people
    First
    Last
    Always
    (Tips hat to OW)


  42. - cdog - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 1:50 pm:

    I honestly do not think this is a red herring, and my thoughts are my own.

    There is no tax loophole to be closed for a mom/pop s-corp.

    It’s a “category mistake” to think otherwise. That is the true fallacy here.

    Truth is, bi-weekly taxes drops would be higher. (employer portion of fed 941s)


  43. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 1:52 pm:

    BDD- remember why the DEMS got spooked about a progressive income tax?

    The ginned up analysis put out by IDOR

    We talked about it on Capfax

    The DEMS rightly understood that Rauner would clobber them for voting for it.


  44. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 1:54 pm:

    BDD so Rauner cares more? Republicans care more?

    Really?


  45. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 1:56 pm:

    TR- go to the DCEO website and look at the EDGE agreements

    Free market?

    God you made me belly laugh

    You’re a cute Pais, I’ll give you that.

    Now run along


  46. - City Zen - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 2:03 pm:

    Has anyone in the “Fight for 15″ outfit determined how a $15 minimum wage will impact school district budgets who currently pay their teaching assistants and custodians $15-20/hr? Or would that cause their bubble to burst?


  47. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 2:08 pm:

    Zen city- I’m sure TA’s and Custodians would still make 15-20.
    Come on
    Be for working folks instead or corporate profits

    Go ahead look up velocity of money

    Or would it burst your bubble


  48. - blue dog dem - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 2:23 pm:

    Honey. I say no one really cares. Except when campaigning. Took me about 50 years to figure out that and noonee cares about unions either. Just a few diehards left, and as I have repeatedly said that even those don’t care if it effects their pocketbook.

    Me. I am for raising minimum wage. Not for the same reason as others. I see starting jobs as a great educational tool for the young. You have to learn to work. Some are advantaged because they have parents that bust their butt. Kids see this, and learn. Other kids aren’t so fortunate, so we need them to be able to support transportation costs. $8.50/hrx20hrs/wk doesn’t pan out, so I see some youth throw up their hands, and don’t try. Weird thought process, I know.


  49. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 2:29 pm:

    Colby Jack
    So you’re calling a Yale study malarkey?

    You republican armchair economists are more deluded than I thought

    Go ahead and read the study

    It might have some “killer graphics” like Trump likes.

    I find your lack of self differentiation disturbing


  50. - cdog - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 2:46 pm:

    HB

    The Yale study only controlled for retail cost pass through. Again, a category mistake. Retail pass through is not a relevant measurement for most Illinois small businesses.

    Try this study from Harvard. It shows that more Bay area restaurants close for every dollar increase in minimum wage.

    https://papers.ssrn.com

    People that find themselves making minimum wage, after several years in the workforce, most likley have other issues. That too, is a worthy discussion.


  51. - Responsa - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 2:48 pm:

    Individuals who feel the need to dominate a conversation often come across as thinking they are the smartest person in the room. My parents taught us to notice and to be wary of people like this because they are in fact usually not the smartest people in the room.


  52. - Colby jack - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 2:56 pm:

    Simple addition and subtraction HB.


  53. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 3:18 pm:

    BDD- well I have to admit that’s a pretty varifiable argument. It seems like neither party cares. That being said I think it’s also totally verifiable that DEM non care beats the crap out of GOP non care which takes away any kind of support the poor, elderly and disabled have.


  54. - City Zen - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 3:27 pm:

    Honeybear - If I’m a college-student/grad TA currently making $19/hr, and you double the McDonald’s employee/high-school-kid’s rate to $15/hr, wouldn’t my services warrant a higher price?


  55. - Anonymous - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 3:36 pm:

    HB has a tendency to be very selective with what she posts. She apparently doesn’t want to answer about a rise in minimum wage impacting people hired, hours worked, people let go, etc.

    If a company has 15 workers get a $5/hour increase and they work 40 hours each that equals:

    $3000 additional wages a week plus fed taxes of roughly $230 so 3230 times 52 weeks = nearly $168,000 in expense in one year.

    Do you think that is an impact on a small business?


  56. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 3:37 pm:

    That’s funny cdog I almost did what you did. You’ve got to give me the title of the study. This just sent me to the website.

    Did you read the study or did you just read the abstract? It special states that the effected industries are restaurants and fast food. I get that it will hit those hard.

    But I feel the overall positive effect on the local economy way outweighs the loss of jobs in a single sector. You armchair Republicans didn’t bat an eye at the thousands of private social service jobs lost to this impasse.

    On another note, I heard an NPR segment about the Harvard report. I get it. Nobody likes job loss. But short of UBI we’ve got to do something about raising wages for those at the bottom of our economic ladder.

    It’s those folks that I serve every day. They can’t make it on minimum wage. They then have to work multiple jobs to make it. This them has social consequences with child behavior.


  57. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 3:38 pm:

    No Colby Jack.

    There is nothing simple about this problem


  58. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 3:53 pm:

    Zen City, as almost 40 years of stagnant wages have shown, no
    Companies don’t raise wages
    If you don’t like it apply somewhere else

    Man you guys must all be quite privileged to not understand what working folk at the bottom deal with.

    Anonymous- pick a name- I didn’t answer you because I don’t have the time nor the inclination to spar with you.

    Sorry not worth it


  59. - City Zen - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 4:10 pm:

    HB - You lost me on the application process. So you believe my working family school district and the wages it currently pays its teaching assistants and custodians will not be impacted by a minimum wage hike? So instead of making $11/hr more per hour, they’ll be content to just make $4/hr more.

    That’s all I’m asking. I’m ambivalent on the min wage hike as I can alter my purchasing power accordingly and choose to consume less. I cannot do that with property taxes, hence my concern downstream.


  60. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 4:35 pm:

    - Honeybear -

    The - @MisterJayEm - Rule on ” - Anonymous - ” is still the pretty doggone good rule.


  61. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 4:38 pm:

    TR- read Pickety and get back to me on income inequality.


  62. - cdog - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 4:46 pm:

    If someone is making minimum wage after several years in the job market, the problem might be with them, not the market.

    Life is about making choices, and living with your choices. Every day, you are at the end of the decisions you’ve made.

    I had a conversation with a gentleman from western Africa a few weeks ago. He was amazed with the lack of hustle and drive on the part of some Americans.

    Entitlement and victimhood are dangerous vices.


  63. - Texas Red - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 4:53 pm:

    HB - First get the spelling correct it is PIKETTY, then google “Piketty debunked”, or better yet head to your nearest library and search for professional/scholarly article on the subject.


  64. - Robert the 1st - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 5:57 pm:

    I seem to remember a time when we could all agree on basic economics. The Democrats would concede “yes, this may slow economic growth but it’s worth it for the humanity involved.” Now we have Paul Krugman and Thomas Piketty coming up with economic theory based on politics and despite it making zero sense, people eat it up.


  65. - Grandson of Man - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 8:29 pm:

    I hope the Senate votes on this bill tonight and puts it on Rauner’s desk. He more than tripled his income in 2015. Let’s see him veto it.


  66. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 9:53 pm:

    Robert, I believe that Krugman and Piketty are bone fide economists. They are refuting the Chicago/Austrian schools of economic thought. It’s called progress. Thank God we are moving past free market economics. Neoliberalism has been a disaster.


  67. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 9:57 pm:

    Anything can be debunked by quack science. Peer review lends credence. But hey, you don’t believe in peer review or scientific method anyway. You’ve probably never read it for yourself. Go ahead mouth breather. Keep you doubt alive.
    I am sorry about Piketty. I was on my phone. As you’ve noticed I have a lot of mistakes. Sorry, I’m not a credit to my Northwestern education.


  68. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 9:58 pm:

    Of course, I make more mistakes. Oh well.


  69. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 9:59 pm:

    Par for the course OW, I’m not sure what you mean about anonymous rule.


  70. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:07 pm:

    - Honeybear -

    I just was thinking aloud, as I see, today, so many ” - Anonymous - “, and so many counter to each other… just thinking aloud is all.


  71. - Robert the 1st - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 10:07 pm:

    =It’s called progress. Thank God we are moving past free market economics.=

    These are not new ideas. They’ve been tried many times.


  72. - cdog - Wednesday, May 31, 17 @ 11:08 pm:

    In Venezuela, most recently.


  73. - Honeybear - Thursday, Jun 1, 17 @ 9:30 am:

    Dude by refusing to sign anything until he gets his “reforms” which will destroy his political opposition,

    RAUNER ALONE!

    Is moving us towards Venezuela.

    Madigan did get a budget done every year till

    RAUNER

    RAUNER FAILED
    RAUNER LIED
    RAUNER DESTROYS


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Question of the day
* The great Rauner pivot of 2017
* Rauner's rollout
* Kennedy's "revolution"
* Plummer jumps into crowded field
* Report: HQ2 incentive package could top $2.25 billion
* More support for overriding Rauner veto of debt transparency bill
* *** UPDATED x1 *** Yet another problem at DCFS
* Will Illinois really break the spending record?
* Ives gears up, Walsh waits in wings
* *** UPDATED x1 *** "I’ve had hands up my skirt. I’ve had my hair pulled - There’s just kind of nothing you can really do"
* Rauner's federal pension idea allows "some level of bankruptcy"
* *** UPDATED x1 *** Dems pounce on new Rauner ad
* Poll: Pritzker leads Kennedy and Biss 39-15-6
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Rate the Rauner campaign kickoff video
* Yesterday's stories

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............
<


Loading


* More Rauner, Democrat showdowns on tap in fall .....
* More Rauner, Democrat showdowns on tap in fall .....
* More Rauner, Democrat showdowns on tap in fall .....
* More Rauner, Democrat Showdowns on Tap in Fall .....
* More Rauner, Democrat showdowns on tap in fall .....
* More Rauner, Democrat showdowns on tap in fall .....


* More Rauner, Democrat showdowns on tap in fall session
* Illinois panel to propose plan for adult education, literacy
* Chicago-area executives sentenced in school-fraud case
* Judge: Trump's health care cuts don't pose immediate threat
* South Bend a hot market for football weekend home rentals
* Child deaths spike in Illinois after DCFS privatizes program
* Peoria man charged in 1994 murder in suburban Chicago
* Man found guilty in death of student trying to sell his car
* Future of king salmon uncertain in Great Lakes
* Judge in Schock case sticks to finding against prosecutors

* Child deaths spike in Illinois after DCFS privatizes program
* Illinois, other states ask judge to keep health subsidies that Trump cut
* Democratic attorneys general unite against concealed-carry gun law
* Gov. Rauner makes re-election bid official with video
* Governor's race could be costliest in U.S. history
* Voter advocates push Illinois to exit multistate database
* Lawmakers set to return Tuesday for veto session
* Illinois Lottery's new manager projects $4B in sales
* UIS students could study at newly proposed Chicago research center
* Aaron Schock attorneys contest federal claims on misstatements

* Illinois asks judge to keep health subsidies that Trump cut
* Here are the key questions Rauner didn't answer today
* How Oscar Munoz spooked United Airlines investors
* Chicago's offer to Amazon: $2.25 billion in incentives
* Threadless acquires Bucketfeet


* Police warn of catalytic converter thefts on NW Side
* IG: 163 staffers barred from CPS employed at charter, contract schools
* Georgia Nicols horoscopes for Oct. 24, 2017
* Dear Abby: Teen failing school, blames absent dad
* 2 decades later, man charged with killing elderly Lisle woman in 1994
* Man charged with killing woman, hurting 2 others in SW Side stabbing
* Violent 6 hours on Monday leave 1 dead, 6 wounded in Chicago shootings
* Man, 22, shot in Rogers Park
* Man faces charges after being found inside car in Evanston dealership
* MITCHELL: Gold Star Family disputes President Trump’s version of facts


* China's Communist Party inserts Xi's name, ideology into constitution in symbol of his power
* Teachers barred from Chicago Public Schools found work at city charters, inspector general says
* Chicago police seek answers in slaying of father of 3, killed after attending rock concert
* Kenya braces for a disaster of an election
* 5 Michigan teens charged with murder after rock thrown from highway overpass kills man
* Small Montana firm lands Puerto Rico's biggest contract to get the power back on
* Climate change already costing U.S. billions, GAO report says
* 1 dead, 7 wounded in separate city shootings
* Cubs assistant Eric Hinske takes hitting coach job with Angels
* So many people want to read Stephen Hawking's Ph.D thesis that they're crashing a Cambridge website


» Chicago Charter Schools Hire 163 Public School Staffers Banned For Misconduct, Including Sexual Abuse
» 4 Takeaways From Gov. Bruce Rauner’s Re-election Launch
» Retired Judge Richard Posner: ‘I’m Forming Nationwide Pro-Bono Group’
» EPA Looks At Cleanup Alternatives For Lead-Contaminated Indiana Site
» Lawmakers Push For Transparency In State Debt
» Rauner Makes Re-election Bid Official With Video
» Where Can Homeless People Pitch Tents In Chicago?
» Voter Advocates Push Illinois To Exit Multistate Database
» Lawmaker Says Facebook Refuses To Fact Check Ads
» State Week: Chasing Amazon, Bonding Debt


* By Marc A. Thiessen: Virginia's Gillespie is tireless campaigner focusing on issues voters care about
* Child deaths spike in Illinois after DCFS privatizes program
* Illinois, other states ask judge to keep health subsidies that Trump cut
* Democratic attorneys general unite against concealed-carry gun law
* Gov. Rauner makes re-election bid official with video
* George Will: The fatal conceit of planning for the future
* Our View: Overriding this veto is a no-brainer
* Governor's race could be costliest in U.S. history
* Statehouse Insider: Will veto session show GOP revolt?
* Our View: Figure out how to make Innovation Network a reality


* Augustine Joseph “Joe” Segretario
* Karen Sue Spradling
* Lyle Lee
* David Clemons
* Etta Kilpatrick
* Thomas Ellis
* Roger Schroeder
* Cheryal Gosnell
* James Gibbs
* Nelson Brimm


* Wentz tosses 4 TDs, Eagles beat Redskins 34-24
* Beal scores 20 points, Wizards beat Nuggets 109-104
* Booker, Suns top Kings 117-115 for 1st win
* Condos, not hotel in St. Charles' First Street plans
* Bruce Rauner makes re-election bid official with video

* Will Trump continue to unravel Obama's leg...
* Democratic 14th Congressional District can...
* GOP congressmen say Rauner 'let down' Illi...
* Hultgren aims to help employers close the ...
* Naperville's Lauren Underwood to run for R...
* Measure extends term of FSOC independent m...
* Bipartisan group of lawmakers pushes job t...
* Hundreds of high school students tour Smit...
* Teacher raised in Yorkville running agains...
* Dissident artist Ai Weiwei and US Rep. Ran...

* Democrats urge President Trump not to shri......

* The Senate must protect families and rejec......

* 13 Days Of Xmas
* Chicago Electric Fireplace TV Stand
* Until Youth Soccer Is Fixed, U.S. Men's National Team Destined To Fail
* JFK assassination docs do provide a nice distraction (for Trump) from flaws
* Roundy's Recall: 16,320 Pounds Of Chili And Soup Products
* Stop Driving Kids Crazy
* Amazon slime.
* Will work for $2.5 billion.
* Jason Plummer enters race to replace Sen. Kyle McCarter
* Rauner launches campaign kickoff video


* Illinois Awarded Funds to Offer Advanced Training on Detecting Impaired Driving
* Illinois EPA Announces Upcoming Household Hazardous Waste Collection Events
* IEMA Highlights Emergency Preparedness for People with Access and Functional Needs in May - Ready Illinois website offers preparedness tips for people, caregivers
* First Lady Launches Illinois Family Connects
* Governor and Lt. Governor Unveil 2016 Journal of Local Government Shared Service Best Practices

  
* Apple Support Doc Highlights In-Car Wireless Chargers That Work With iPhone 8 and 8 Plus
* Third Man Charged in 2014 Celebrity iCloud Phishing Attacks
* New York to finally move on from MetroCard to Apple Pay and other NFC formats
* Google ships Pixel 2 that failed QA while other units click and beep
* Apple Pay in New Zealand Expands to BNZ
* Sprint and T-Mobile skip earnings calls amid merger rumors
* Pixel 2 Real Audio Review: Let’s talk about headphone dongles… (Video)

* Sox Century: After the World Series
* Podcast: 2017 White Sox Pitchers and Catchers season review
* Steep climbs ahead for oft-injured White Sox
* #AwardWorthy: Vote for Engel's glove
* Sporcle Saturday: Long bombs
* Petricka undergoes surgery on right elbow
* Avisail sees similarities in rebuild, stellar year


Main Menu
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

Archives
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

Syndication

RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0
WordPress




Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller