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*** UPDATED x3 - Cullerton appoints - GOP urges quick negotiations - Durkin, Brady appoint negotiators *** Madigan responds to Rauner offer, appoints two members to negotiate

Friday, Jul 28, 2017

* Press release…

Speaker Michael J. Madigan issued the following statement Friday:

“First and foremost, it is the sincere belief of House Democrats that Governor Rauner should sign the education funding reform bill currently on his desk. Should he continue to create chaos and attempt to pit one student against another by vetoing reform, we expect to move forward with an override.

“In the spirit of ongoing cooperation, Representatives Will Davis and Barbara Flynn Currie will continue to work with legislative Republicans, as they have been doing for some time now.

“At this juncture, doing what’s right and providing stability and certainty to all Illinois schools is more important than any arbitrary deadline put forward by a governor who continues seeking chaos over compromise. House Democrats are committed to passing school funding reform and we will continue working across the aisle to ensure our schools are able to open on time, despite the governor’s political games.”

Background is here.

…Adding… As several commenters have pointed out, SB 1 is most definitely not “currently on [Rauner’s] desk.” If it was on his desk, we wouldn’t be waiting around right now.

*** UPDATE 1 ***  Still waiting on Cullerton…

A statement from Senate Republican Leader-Designee Bill Brady and House Republican Leader Jim Durkin.

“At the Governor’s request, we have asked Sens. Jason Barickman and Dan McConchie and Reps. Avery Bourne and Bob Pritchard to reach out to their Democrat colleagues on a school funding reform plan that treats all school districts in Illinois fairly and equitably.
Our schools cannot wait any longer, we must act now.”

*** UPDATE 2 *** Press release…

REPUBLICAN NEGOTIATORS PUSH FOR QUICK NEGOTIATIONS

Statement from Sen. Jason Barickman, Sen. Dan McConchie, Rep. Avery Bourne and Rep. Bob Pritchard.

“This afternoon, at the request of the Governor and our respective legislative leaders, we have reached out to convene a meeting with Rep. Barbra Flynn Currie, Rep. Will Davis, Sen. Kimberly Lightford and Sen. Andy Manar as soon as possible on school funding reform. We have cleared our calendars in order to facilitate these discussions today and over the weekend. We are hopeful our Democrat colleagues realize the urgency as well.
With sincere bipartisan discussions, a solution can be negotiated and presented for review before the scheduled transmittal to the Governor of Senate Bill 1 on Monday. Absent that, the Governor has made it clear he will use his Amendatory Veto authority.

We need to act quickly to ensure funding will be released in time for schoolhouse doors to open next month.”

*** UPDATE 3 *** Press release…

Illinois Senate President John J. Cullerton has asked Assistant Majority Leader Kimberly A. Lightford and State Senator Andy Manar, the sponsor of Senate Bill 1, to join renewed talks regarding school funding reform.

“This is the kind of meeting we’ve been trying to arrange for weeks. Hopefully we can now learn what the governor has in mind with his threatened veto and see if there is a path forward, together,” Cullerton said.

Lightford is a Maywood Democrat.
Manar is a Bunker Hill Democrat.

The Senate President has been trying to meet with the governor about his threatened veto prior to sending him a historic school funding overhaul on Monday, July 31. In addition to explaining the legislation, the Senate President wants to make sure the governor understands what his threatened veto would mean.

Rauner has said he would file an amendatory veto to rewrite Senate Bill 1.

An amendatory veto is a veto. It rejects the proposal but offers specific legislative changes that are supposed to be consistent with the initial theme and scope of the proposal. The constitution and court cases limit the governor’s ability to make changes.

Once that veto is filed with the Senate, the Senate has 15 calendar days to act or else the entire proposal is declared dead. The Senate’s options are to vote to accept the changes or try to override and enact the plan as originally written.

Overriding the governor’s veto requires support from 3/5ths of the members in each chamber. That’s 36 votes in the Senate and 71 votes in the House.

But so too does accepting any changes. That’s because those changes amount to new laws with immediate effective dates since it would be passed after May 31. The Illinois Constitution sets a May 31 deadline for action and anything after requires more votes to become law.

Again, if efforts to override the governor or accept his alternations fail, the entire school funding overhaul fails and lawmakers would need to start over with new legislation.

- Posted by Rich Miller        

52 Comments
  1. - 360 Degree TurnAround - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:35 pm:

    This is beautiful theater. The Senate Dems will appoint Senator Manar. Who will the Republicans appoint? Who can Rauner trust that knows education?


  2. - 360 Degree TurnAround - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:38 pm:

    Fake Governor Rauner:

    “Kristina, I need a revolution right away. Also, print me a spreadsheet of all the different positions I have taken on SB 1. Organize them by date”


  3. - 360 Degree TurnAround - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:42 pm:

    Fake Governor Rauner:

    “Kristina, please look up the definition of the word governing. Also, bring me the synonyms for the word outrageous, I love that word.”


  4. - morningstar - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:46 pm:

    360 Degree - perhaps the more appropriate question for your final question is who [among his choices for representatives in negotiation] can trust Rauner?


  5. - Deft Wing - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:46 pm:

    “… currently on his desk.”

    That’s all you need to know about this goofiness.


  6. - 360 Degree TurnAround - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:47 pm:

    Touche.


  7. - 360 Degree TurnAround - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:49 pm:

    Fake Governor Rauner:

    “I appoint Anthony Scaramucci to handle the education issue for me”.


  8. - Anon221 - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:50 pm:

    Madigan: “First and foremost, it is the sincere belief of House Democrats that Governor Rauner should sign the education funding reform bill currently on his desk.”

    SB1 has been sent to Rauner??? Did I miss something?


  9. - Fixer - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:52 pm:

    Anon221 I was coming to say the same. Slip of the tongue by Madigan, maybe?


  10. - Real - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:53 pm:

    Anon221

    If SB1 had already been sent to fake gov ivetod and these negotiations would not be taking place. I guess you think that route of veto first talk later is more productive though?


  11. - Arock - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:53 pm:

    What has Madigan given in on education reform that he can state he has compromised on? Except he has known that the funding system has been broken for a long time and up until now they have done nothing to fix it. Have Madigan also show us a budget that he has passed in the House that has funded education to the level that the State is suppose too according to the Illinois Constitution. Under his leadership the State could not fulfill that obligation and still failed to fund pensions. That is some leadership there Speaker Madigan, quite the legacy for ineptness.


  12. - Retired Educator - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:54 pm:

    Whoever is selected to negotiate, should wear a life vest. He/she is going to get shoved off the pier. No matter what they agree to, it won’t be good enough for Rauner. I doubt he has a long line of volunteers wanting to walk this plank.


  13. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:59 pm:

    ===Madigan also show us a budget that he has passed in the House that has funded education to the level that the State is suppose too according to the Illinois Constitution.===

    Rauner has yet… 3 fiscal years… to sign a full year’s budget for Illinois.

    Is that leadership, lol…

    Rsuber did veto lots and lots and lots… hurting seniors, agriculture, higher education, social services… Raunef vetoed it all. Rauner told us so.

    ===…funding reform bill currently on his desk.===

    (Face Palm)


  14. - morningstar - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:59 pm:

    Retired Educator - life vest and a pair of binoculars so he/she can keep an eye on the moving goal posts.


  15. - Ducky LaMoore - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:59 pm:

    ===What has Madigan given in on education reform that he can state he has compromised on?===

    They don’t call it SB1 for nothing. LOL.


  16. - Rod - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 12:59 pm:

    Please spare us the drama, just vote to override if the Senate can muster the courage to override. But I can hear the howling in Senator Manar’s home county from Chicago where Rauner won 59% of the vote in 2014 when he is targeted for providing additional funding to CPS.


  17. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 1:03 pm:

    ===Please spare us the drama, just vote to override if the Senate can muster the courage to override===

    It’s not courage, it’s if there is 36 votes.

    Otherwise, Rauner’s AV will be the sole reason some schools just won’t open.

    Oh, and the House, that ain’t a guarantee either.

    Governors own the vetoes. No one but a governor can veto.


  18. - Arsenal - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 1:04 pm:

    ==But I can hear the howling in Senator Manar’s home county from Chicago where Rauner won 59% of the vote in 2014 when he is targeted for providing additional funding to CPS.==

    The fact that he’s got half the schools in his district begging for the bill to pass so they can get more money will probably mitigate against that.


  19. - DuPage Bard - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 1:05 pm:

    Oops looks like the Speaker pulled a Barrickman?
    Have to agree with most here, who wants to be on that committee for the Gov? He hasn’t been the best at backing people up.


  20. - Arsenal - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 1:05 pm:

    I mean, you can kinda see it now: “Andy Manar passed a bill to give your kids in Taylorville schools $XXX more money. Avery Bourne voted ‘No’.”


  21. - cdog - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 1:11 pm:

    Talk about pot and kettle.

    How can Madigan say those things expecting folks to agree with him?

    1. As pointed out here, the bill isn’t on the Gov’s desk.

    2. Legislative Dems are holding the bill, creating the time squeeze and practicing their love of chaos forced votes.

    3. The use of children for human shields to protect last minute amendments that otherwise had no chance, is the worst type of political game to play.

    blah blah blah (eye roll)


  22. - 360 Degree Turnaround - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 1:13 pm:

    I don’t think the point of the speakers statement that he would prefer the governor to sign the bill, is regarding where the bill is. He is simply pointing out, that he will put two members forward to negotiate, but his preference would be that the governor would sign the bill.


  23. - My New Handle - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 1:15 pm:

    Cdog, legislative Dems? Do you mean Senate Dems?


  24. - cdog - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 1:18 pm:

    MNH, my personal belief is that Cullerton is taking advice from both chambers.


  25. - Anon221 - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 1:23 pm:

    Real - “I guess you think that route of veto first talk later is more productive though?”

    You can guess all you like, but that’s not my position. You would know that if you had read any of my posts over the last couple of weeks.


  26. - My New Handle - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 1:30 pm:

    Cdog, Rauner is about “personal feelings.” Facts work better in these situations.


  27. - Moe Berg - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 1:39 pm:

    As with Rauner’s statement this morning, now we have “Democrat colleagues” from the Republican leaders, not Democratic colleagues as is correct. No slight is too petty and the lack of minimal, basic civility is so telling about the moral rot of the GOP.


  28. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 1:41 pm:

    ===Democrat colleagues===

    Not good. The partisanship is just so viral…

    I know they can do better. I know it.


  29. - Precinct Captain - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 1:44 pm:

    Re: Durkin and Brady, they’ve had months and years to act, yet they have followed Bruce Rauner’s ultra right-wing desire each and every time. Score me unimpressed.


  30. - Rabid - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 2:03 pm:

    The govenor requested barickman swear his allegiance


  31. - Rod - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 2:09 pm:

    Arsenal when one looks at Macoupin County, Illinois where Senator Manar is from this statistic jumps out at you from the census data. There are about 19,400 households in the county and only 6,370 have school aged children in their households. That is only about 33% of the households. The power of school districts in some parts of our State is not significant, which is also my bond referendums get voted down.

    Moreover, the Republicans will and can argue that some property tax payers in Macoupin County may get a bigger potential tax break if CPS is kept out of tier 1 funding due to the amendments to SB 1. Manar’s situation is not pretty in the least on the vote to override at least in that part of his district.


  32. - My New Handle - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 2:25 pm:

    Rod–Sen. Manar’s district is much larger than Macoupin County and covers some of Springfield. Lots of households with school kids.


  33. - Anon III - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 2:27 pm:

    MJM: “First and foremost, it is the sincere belief of House Democrats that Governor Rauner should sign the education funding reform bill currently on his desk. …”

    I speculate that the statement was written at a time that he believed the bill was to be on Rauner’s desk. But his belief has proven to be contrary to fact. So perhaps he has been misinformed by someone. Someone on the D side of the aisle.


  34. - Retired Educator - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 2:32 pm:

    Well isn’t that a swell bunch of people to negotiate. I live in Bourne’s district, she has done nothing except play Find Waldo on her cell phone since she got there. She is a rubber stamp for Rauner. She doesn’t have a coherent thought process. But she will do what the boss tells her to do. So listen close if her mouth moves, Rauner is talking.


  35. - Rich Miller - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 2:36 pm:

    ===I speculate===

    He goofed. Plain and simple. You don’t need to make excuses for him.


  36. - Arsenal - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 2:57 pm:

    ==Manar’s situation is not pretty in the least on the vote to override at least in that part of his district.==

    You think he’s gonna even swallow hard before voting to override a veto of his own bill?

    Look, I’m not saying mindless opposition to Chicago isn’t a potent force downstate, but Manar already wrote the bill. In for a penny, in for a pound.


  37. - Markus - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:07 pm:

    5th largest school district in Illinois, Plainfield CUSD 202 on the record supporting SB1.

    http://www.theherald-news.com/2017/07/28/abrell-its-time-to-support-sb1-get-funding-to-schools/acmp1r2/


  38. - A guy - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:08 pm:

    Everyone’s just looking for an argument at every turn. He misspoke. We all know what his foundation of thought is on this.
    He’s named his two, Durkin named two, Brady named two. Now, we’ve got a couple of days to make some progress.
    Knock off the BS and let’s just go.


  39. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:11 pm:

    ===He misspoke.===

    Which time?

    The first time, the second time… lol


  40. - Rod - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:13 pm:

    Arsenal not every line Rauner will cut was in Manar’s bill, it was added by an amendment in the House. Needless to say the Senate Democrats did not revolt over the changes to the bill which are really what the AV is all about Arsenal. Manar’s bill did not move CPS to tier 1, it was the Will Davis amendment that did that.


  41. - cdog - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:14 pm:

    “No slight is too petty and the lack of minimal, basic civility is so telling about the moral rot of the GOP.”

    My 85 yr old mom about fell off her chair on this one.

    Moral rot from using a noun and adjective wrongly. Now, that is some thin skin.


  42. - The Dude Abides - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:16 pm:

    Avery Bourne has expertise on the education bill?


  43. - 47th Ward - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:21 pm:

    I’m kind of surprised Leader Durkin didn’t appoint Mike McAuliffe, his only member from Chicago, to the negotiating team.

    Oh, wait. Nevermind.


  44. - Anon221 - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:25 pm:

    The Dude Abides- Well, she did stand behind Rauner at the Auburn High School presser. Does that count;)


  45. - A guy - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:27 pm:

    ===He misspoke.===

    Willy, you misunderstood me. I’ll take the blame. It’s rare for me to defend the Speaker. In this case, I was. His misspeak is a dumb thing to argue about. That was my point. Apologies for the lack of clarity.


  46. - A guy - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:30 pm:

    ==Avery Bourne has expertise on the education bill?==

    Maybe she’s more agreeable and better for this negotiation. She’s smart. She’s not jaded. Think that might be helpful.

    Lighten up man.


  47. - MOON - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:32 pm:

    These supposed negotiations will go nowhere.
    When they fail Rauner will blame Madigan.

    Rauner is using this guise to cover his A–.


  48. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:47 pm:

    ===…”We need to act quickly to ensure funding will be released in time for schoolhouse doors to open next month.”===

    Last time I head that, Bruce Rauner was blowing up two Grand Bargains and undercutting Leader Radogno…


  49. - Earnest - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:49 pm:

    >>“At the Governor’s request, we have asked Sens. Jason Barickman

    On the one hand, Sen Barickman is knowledgeable. On the other, how do you negotiate with someone you know full well could make a statement then come back in the afternoon and say the exact opposite because he was told to by the Governor’s office?


  50. - FLEA - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 3:58 pm:

    Gov. Rauner needs to call trump to borrow Scaramucci… until this passes over


  51. - Michelle Flaherty - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 4:14 pm:

    I understand why they went with Manar and Lightford, but was really, really hoping Cullerton would pick Radogno.


  52. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Jul 28, 17 @ 4:18 pm:

    To Cullerton update.

    ===Overriding the governor’s veto requires support from 3/5ths of the members in each chamber. That’s 36 votes in the Senate and 71 votes in the House.

    But so too does accepting any changes. That’s because those changes amount to new laws with immediate effective dates since it would be passed after May 31. The Illinois Constitution sets a May 31 deadline for action and anything after requires more votes to become law.

    Again, if efforts to override the governor or accept his alternations fail, the entire school funding overhaul fails and lawmakers would need to start over with new legislation===

    This is the whole ball of whacks.

    Ignoring the rules of this game of chicken by Rauner’s new IPI alums would be dire once the bill get to the Governor.

    It’s the Guv’s call. That’s how it works.

    Give good counsel, Rassmussen.

    All the school kids in Illinois will be waiting for this outcome.


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