49 Comments - PJ - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 1:51 pm: He was incoherent. If you took a drink every time he said “the political issues were swirling”… - anon2 - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 1:57 pm: === The governor said his choice to sign the bill was either to “follow what I believe or do politics.” === His choice was actually to keep his word or to go back on it. - Just Visiting - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 1:58 pm: =Ives getting under Rauner’s skin= You’re not alone Governor. Anyone that has ever had to work with her feels the same way. Until ANYONE releases a poll that shows Ives within 15 points this is a non-race. Ask anyone outside the radical right about Ives and the answer is: “Who’s she?” - anon2 - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 1:58 pm: Did the Trib ask why Rauner refuses to debate his opponent? - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 1:58 pm: Bruce Rauner 100% has Diana Rauner’s uber-left, costal limousine liberal social agenda. Signatures on things that wouldn’t even be possible in California speaks to that. No way is Bruce Rauner in the ball park of the Reagan Rule of 80% in social agenda policies. Conservatives and pro-life base Republicans were duped. Bruce Rauner has abandoned those Republicans, and can’t be seen within Reagan’s Rule, and not telling truth to a Catholic Cardinal is far beyond policy, but ethics. - Its done - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:00 pm: No knock it our blow from Ives. No unforced error by Rauner. She needed a game changer and it didn’t happen. Rauner needed to play conservative and avoid mistakes. They both did what they set out to do. But failing to create a moment that will be seen by many, means status quo remains in tact. Rauner wins unless something major changes. - Arthur Andersen - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:01 pm: I would be remiss if I didn’t mention Ives’ jaw-dropper on how to deal with unions. “Layoffs. That’s what we did in Wheaton.” - Yobogoya - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:01 pm: Any takes from from the center right? #diversity - Nick Name - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:02 pm: === he says he got Ken Dunkin not to come down to Spfld on the arbitration bill.=== Is this the first time he’s admitted to playing a role in that? - ste_with_a_v_en - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:04 pm: Ives just came off as disrespectful. Not too mention her “specifics” were lacking when it wasn’t College of Dupage. She isn’t ready for prime time either. - Henry Francis - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:04 pm: It takes some kind of person to make me root for someone like Ives. - PJ - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:07 pm: ==Signatures on things that wouldn’t even be possible in California speaks to that.== Come off the massive exaggerations, yeah? Throw around silly liberal pejoratives if that does it for you, but all the laws he signed here that have conservatives pearl-clutching in horror are already extant in California. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:09 pm: ===Come off the massive exaggerations, yeah?=== Tell that to “Lucky Pierre”… not my words. ===but all the laws he signed here that have conservatives pearl-clutching in horror are already extant in California.=== When you see “Lucky Pierre” you tell him that, lol - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:19 pm: - PJ - ===- Lucky Pierre - Wednesday, Apr 19, 17 @ 6:04 pm Legislation like this has been approved in 4 states. Even California has not approved anything like this. Are the other 46 states run by neanderthals or are there good, solid reasons for even pro choice voters and legislators to oppose?=== Here’s the Post that Rich had on HB40… http://bit.ly/2DMN6hK Sometimes comments have different audiences… - Blue dog dem - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:20 pm: PJ. I had to look up two words in your post. Could you dumb down for an old codger? - JoanP - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:23 pm: “His choice was actually to keep his word or to go back on it. ” Well, no, because whatever he did, he’d have lied to someone. - Grandson of Man - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:25 pm: Dear Labor Movement, Rauner says he will never give up his quest to break you apart, take your economic voices away and drive down your standards of living. Now is the time to not let relatively small differences cause division. There is no Quinn to be mad at now, no Bernie vs. Hillary battles. It’s beyond ideological differences and party affiliation. Now is the time for all good women and men to line up, shield to shield, shoulder to shoulder, to prepare for battle that is needlessly waged by Rauner and the very few who could retire many thousands of times over and who have no idea what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck. - Anonymous - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:26 pm: May not like her politics, but I think any woman would agree Jeanne ain’t no ‘kitten’. Like to see what would happen to any mope that tried to put a move on her. Feminists don’t all have to be liberals. She should be championed for her innate belief in equality. In relation to Rauner, superiority. She cleaned the floor with that chuckling oaf. - Norseman - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:27 pm: === I would be remiss if I didn’t mention Ives’ jaw-dropper on how to deal with unions. “Layoffs. That’s what we did in Wheaton.” === At least she gave up on the idea of hiring Pinkerton guards to rough up the folks. /s - Annonin' - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:35 pm: Very entertaining. GovJunk chucklin’ like a magoo who was just struck by lightenin’ Katrina beggin’ for one simple idea and the Commando usin’ lines like “wine sippin’ buddy Rahm” GovJunk got clock cleaned. Best was GovJunk claimin’ to hav led fight for school fundin’ reform. He vetoed the bill. - Reality Check - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:37 pm: @Nick Name - “Governor Rauner says he did not ask Dunkin to miss the override vote”. Sept. 10, 2015 (From http://abc7chicago.com/politics/dem-dunkin-talks-after-missing-key-vote-in-springfield/978095/ - which, ironically, has now-overt-Rauner-supporter Charles Thomas quoting his now-business-partner Maze Jackson.) - Soccermom - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:41 pm: Do you think anybody would notice if I pulled a GOP primary ballot? - orzo - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:42 pm: If there is one thing we learned n the last few years, it is that you don’t have to be very smart to make a billion dollars - Molly Maguire - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:43 pm: This is why I was delighted with Ives running. (Didn’t work out so great with Trump though). Rauner often treats women very dismissively, now it’s out there for all to see. - wordslinger - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:54 pm: The tronc edit board proves once again that it does not read the Chicago Tribune news pages. – Ever heard of a vets home in Quincy? – How about the stank on that Medicaid contract, the biggest ever in state history, that went from $40B to $63B in a week, with no explanation? – The FUBAR on state school funding — that was in the Trib today. – what’s with the IT pinstripe patronage army getting paid first, all the time? – Rauner claimed he’s introduced balanced budgets, and the deep thinkers let that go unchallenged? – There is no blind trust. Will Rauner disclose his investments that do business with Illinois governments? And on and on and on….. Chicago tough guy Johnny Kass was a meek little daisy, wasn’t he? No questions that he got from his anonymous guys on the street that always provide the perfect quote? Probably nervous that he was missing something important on Fox News. Not one question about the The Return of the Cellini Gang and fat state leases. He used to think that was a big deal. So does Rauner take the tronc edit board out for dinner and a movie tonight? Or did he just leave behind some tic-tacs? - Steve Rogers - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:56 pm: I don’t think either one came out looking good. Rauner seemed clueless, like normal, and Ives just seemed a little mean spirited. - Demoralized - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:57 pm: ==I’ve laid the dramatic change for my second term.== I don’t think we can survive any more of his “dramatic” changes. - dbk - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:59 pm: Good point Molly Maguire @2:43 about BVR’s dismissive attitude towards women, it came out clearly for those of us paying attention. This is going to be a dirty, dismal campaign season; interesting for politics addicts, but for Illinois voters the options are not inspiring. Spoken as a nascent IL politics junkie, faithful voter, lifelong independent. - Anonymous - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 3:06 pm: 2:26 =like to see what would happen to some mope that put the moves on her= He would be the charter member of the #Metoothless movement. - 47th Ward - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 3:12 pm: Who knew Governor Rauner was such a Galaxy Quest fan? http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/3a/3a10eb94d0c16a968db0bf2d4e8930555efb4a9c85282008f8eb56eb0de3a35e.jpg - Rutro - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 3:14 pm: @reality check, maybe he meant “he” as in he didn’t call Dunkin, but now, he had someone else call Dunkin? Also, any chance the Trib. endorses Ives after letting Bruce lie to their face? We know their self respect is low, but is it that low? - wordslinger - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 3:14 pm: –Do you think anybody would notice if I pulled a GOP primary ballot? – I doubt that I will pass up an opportunity to vote against Rauner. Memo to Chris Kennedy: What Ives just did, that’s speaking truth to power. She stated obvious truths that Gov. Rauner is a chronic liar whose word cannot be trusted. Plus, he’s thick, incompetent and a sad little whiner, to boot. You’re a couple-three years late, Rep. Ives, but welcome to The Resistance, Illinois-style. - VanillaMan - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 3:18 pm: The chuckling dismissive Governor was trying to convince us that after all those terms and years in office, Lisa Madigan just did whatever her father told her to do. Rauner has no respect for independently minded political women. I hope Ives beats him and ends Bruce’s useless political career. - A guy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 3:24 pm: ==Do you think anybody would notice if I pulled a GOP primary ballot?== Maybe Chris Kennedy, but beyond him…no. - Chicago Cynic - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 3:58 pm: “Do you think anybody would notice if I pulled a GOP primary ballot?” Yes, I will. Not worth the stench. - VanillaMan - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 4:08 pm: ==”Do you think anybody would notice if I pulled a GOP primary ballot?”== Nope. There are millions who can’t wait to vote for anyone running against Rauner this year. - Pot calling kettle - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 4:40 pm: One of my favorite quotes from Ives: “Makes me a little nervous that you were relying on Ken Dunkin.” - blue dog dem - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 5:19 pm: Amen to the primary vote for Ives. Got her 8 votes in the bank. Not sure in the general though. - ste_with_a_v_en - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 5:22 pm: Anyone else notice Ives dodge on the sanctuary state bill? She couldn’t elaborate on her claim. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 5:25 pm: ===Anyone else notice Ives dodge on the sanctuary state bill?=== Anyone notice Rauner, a Republican, made Illinois a sanctuary state with a signature? Conservatives I think noticed. - ste_with_a_v_en - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 5:49 pm: “Anyone notice Rauner, a Republican, made Illinois a sanctuary state with a signature? Conservatives I think noticed.” Except he didn’t, because that’s not what the TRUST act does. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 5:58 pm: ===Except he didn’t, because that’s not what the TRUST act does.=== lol You should try telling to the Daily Herald… The headline “Rauner to sign immigration bill making Illinois a sanctuary state” Or Hoy/Chicago Tribune “Illinois is officially a ‘sanctuary state’ for immigrants” John Kass disagrees… “Gov. Rauner opens a breach with conservatives over sanctuary state” Sen. McCarter thinks so too… ===“I said this could be the last straw, and every day I’m feeling it worse,” Republican state Sen. Kyle McCarter told The Chicago Tribune. “And this isn’t just the ‘right wing’ that’s angry. These are union members too, loyal union men trying to protect American jobs, and the last thing they need to see is a Republican governor making Illinois a sanctuary state.”=== Hmm. - wordslinger - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 6:35 pm: Willie, define “sanctuary state” and how the Trust Act is that. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 6:47 pm: - Wordslinger - Here’s the link to the Post that was here on the Blog about the signing and the differences, including… ===Illinois offered newfound security to immigrants on Monday, spelling out in a new law that state and local police shouldn’t double as immigration agents and encouraging immigrants to report crimes without fear of reprisals for their immigrant status.=== … ===Specifically, under the new law, state and local police cannot arrest or detain someone on the basis of immigration status alone. This prohibition does not apply if there is a valid judicial warrant. Similarly, state and local police are prohibited from arresting or detaining someone based on what’s known as an “immigration detainer,” which is a civil document issued by an immigration agent, not a criminal warrant issued by a judge and supported by probable cause. Across the country, there have been news accounts of crimes going unreported in immigrant communities because victims fear they will end up arrested for lacking immigration documents if they report the crimes. The proposal Cullerton sponsored and the governor signed is designed to foster trust between police and immigrant communities and refocus resources on fighting priority crimes.=== http://bit.ly/2DMxNVZ The difference is the dog whistle the likes of Ives, Kass, McCarter, and others want the signed Bill to be or mean, and that Rauner wants to run on what the Bill says, and hoping it means more that what it does. I find it interesting and bring it up as part of this Rauner shunning hard core conservative issues that Ives wants to highlight, and not deep diving into them, as to fear it makes him look too liberal right now, in Primary season. - VanillaMan - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 8:27 pm: Why do some people hear dog whistles when no one else does? Is that because wearing their tin foil hats amplifies the higher sound waves? If I heard dog whistles, I’d see either an audiologist - or a dog vet. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:52 pm: Here’s just a snippet of Kass tonight… Read this as Kass meant it, the “sanctuary state” misspeak included… ===It was Rauner who invited the Republican primary challenge by signing a sanctuary state bill into law and by signing House Bill 40, which provides for taxpayer-funded abortions. Republican lawmakers and even Roman Catholic Cardinal Blase Cupich said he lied to them.=== So many “misunderstanding” that TRUST Bill. Purposely. Purposely because in the Age of Trump it’s imperative to make it about… - wordslinger - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 10:18 pm: –So many “misunderstanding” that TRUST Bill. Purposely.– With you, Willie. One of the proudest acts of my life was helping folks under the Reagan/Simpson/Mazzoli bill get straightened out. A quirk in the law said working folks in eastern Iowa had to go to Des Moines (four hour drive), rather than cross the river and do the same in Rock Island. I and my deskmate at the Quad-City Times, Cheri Bustos, raised hell and lined up Chuck Grassley, Terry Branstad, Jim Thompson, Tom Harkin, Paul Simon, Alan Dixon, Lane Evans and Jim Leach to help those good people get legal. Just like Pres. Reagan and HW wanted it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBWUOOzuWIY - ste_with_a_v_en - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 10:28 pm: http://www.ilchiefs.org/current-bills-and-ilacp-positions There was a lot of misunderstanding about this bill, which clarifies that local law enforcement agencies are not authorized to enforce federal civil immigration laws. The association received some pushback after we announced our support for it. But our support came only after the earlier original language was changed, with the worst provisions of the bill removed. Gone from the bill was language that would have allowed people to sue the police for damages resulting from violations of this act and would have prevented ICE agents from being in a local police station. After the bill passed the Senate, other law enforcement lobbyists, such as the Illinois State Police and Illinois Sheriffs Association, continued to work the bill and strengthened the bill for law enforcement, including getting immunity for police acting in good faith. In the end, the bill does not prohibit local police from arresting immigrants for violations of state law, and it does not prohibit local police from being in communication with federal agencies. The bill was amended substantially six times – three times in the Senate and then three more in the House. We were in the negotiations all along and plan to do some training on the complexities of the bill. Some people continue to say this law makes Illinois a sanctuary state, but that is wrong. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 10:44 pm: - wordslinger - First, thank you for doing this… ===…helping folks under the Reagan/Simpson/Mazzoli bill get straightened out.=== … and thanks for fully understanding Reagan and HW and how they and history are far different than what we’re witnessing today. I wanted to point out the obvious, that the press was an enabler here for the “Kass Kids” and everyone willing to embrace that false narrative. When I use it, I use it as a red flag, obvious, pivot that the likes of Proft or Ives use so left-handedly to run “like Trump” but still not go “full Trump” Looking at the Kass snippet, it’s what I say to those protecting the Governor… ===It was Rauner who invited the Republican primary challenge by signing a sanctuary state bill into law and by signing House Bill 40, which provides for taxpayer-funded abortions. Republican lawmakers and even Roman Catholic Cardinal Blase Cupich said he lied to them.=== The difference is I read it as a political play, as does Proft, but Proft sells it to Ives and “conservatives” as policy mistakes by Rauner, reasons to work against Rauner, misunderstood policies, but made to anger the angry. The problem is to get to the General, Rauner would like to explain the TRUST Act but the “Kass Kids” already know… it’s a sanctuary bill… and like HB40 (which is what it is, misleading a Cardinal notwithstanding) it makes a nice lil narrative, half baked and half compromised, and I see the play, and it grinds on Rauner, but it has never meant that while seeing the argument, it’s credible to what Reagan and HW meant when addressing immigration, but it is what Rauner is facing due to his own failures on everything else. Thanks again for helping those folks. Something to indeed take real pride. Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.