Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » Candidate question: Independent maps
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      About     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact Rich Miller
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Candidate question: Independent maps

Monday, Mar 5, 2018 - Posted by Rich Miller

* I sent all candidates in both parties this question the other day…

This requires only a simple yes or no response: Will you pledge as governor to veto any state legislative redistricting map proposal that is in any way drafted or created by legislators, political party leaders and/or their staffs or allies? The exception, of course, would be the final official draft by LRB.

I’ve heard plenty of candidates talk about how they favor an independent map-making process, but I wondered how far they would go - particularly JB Pritzker.

* Posted in the order they were received. Rep. Jeanne Ives’ campaign…

She is willing to veto a political partisan map. However, that could be overridden.

The problem is what if there is no other amendment? What if all you have? If there is no other option, do we just used the same map?

A better question is, if your party is able to draw the map will you start with a computer-generated model with the intention of getting a fair map.

Additionally, Ives has already challenged her national party on this issue. She is one-of 17 state legislators that signed on to the amicus brief of the Democrat-challenge in Wisconsin that has reached the Supreme Court.

* Tio Hardiman…

Yes.

* Bob Daiber…

Yes, I pledge to veto redistricting maps that are drawn in a political favor. I advocate for the development of fair maps. It is time for a governor to take a strong stance to end gerrymandering and support a nonpartisan commission tasked with drawing fair legislative maps.

* Gov. Bruce Rauner…

Yes.

* JB Pritzker…

Yes, I will pledge to veto. We should amend the constitution to create an independent commission to draw legislative maps, but in the meantime, I would urge Democrats and Republicans to agree to an independent commission to handle creating a new legislative map. That designated body should reflect the gender, racial, and geographic diversity of the state and look to preserve the Voting Rights Act decisions to ensure racial and language minorities are fully represented in the electoral process.

* Sen. Daniel Biss wouldn’t pledge to veto a non-independent map…

“Under the current constitution, legislators, their staffs, and political allies are involved in the redistricting process — regardless of whether a governor vetoes the initial redistricting proposal. While the post-veto process might appear to some as though it more closely aligns with an independent commission to draw the maps, in reality, it’s a small group of political appointees selected by legislative leaders. We must do better. Instead of pledging to veto — which is self-defeating and shows how inexperienced candidates would back themselves into a corner because they are unable to advance an agenda constructively — as governor, I would advocate for a true independent redistricting process.”

* And neither would Chris Kennedy…

Our campaign is proud to have Ra Joy, a prominent independent maps advocate, on our ticket. With that in mind, no, it would be irresponsible to take an absolute pledge like this because it fails to take into account the situation which may exist at a time of passage. The vagueness of the pledge’s wording is a problem. An “ally” of a member or staff could encompass thousands of people, many of whom are the type of talented good government advocates who we should be welcoming rather than shunning.

       

16 Comments
  1. - JB13 - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 2:35 pm:

    Just like his pledge not to raise taxes on the middle class, this plegde will make me feel so much better when soon-to-be Gov.Pritzker proclaims his hands are tied by the state constitution, and signs whatever map Speaker Madigan hands to him.


  2. - Rich Miller - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 2:36 pm:

    ===The vagueness of the pledge’s wording is a problem. An “ally”===

    No coincidence that Mike Kasper does work for Kennedy’s campaign? Hmm.


  3. - Rich Miller - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 2:37 pm:

    ===proclaims his hands are tied by the state constitution===

    There is no such constitutional provision.


  4. - Arsenal - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 2:37 pm:

    Ives and Biss have a similar problem in that both want to talk about how smart they are which gets in the way of talking about how bold they are.

    Ives has a bunch of other problems, too.


  5. - jim - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 2:40 pm:

    daiber’s response is totally at odds with what he said in his response to the “Fair Maps” questionaire, not that it matters much.


  6. - Arsenal - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 2:42 pm:

    ==No coincidence that Mike Kasper does work for Kennedy’s campaign?==

    …he does? That seems like a significant fly in the ointment of Kennedy’s narrative.


  7. - lake county democrat - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 2:46 pm:

    What Arsenal said. And yeah, Pritzker would come up with something to break that pledge, maybe “there’s no way to know with absolute confidence that an “ally” was not involved in an “independent commission” map, so better to have it be 100% allies.”


  8. - Norseman - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 2:53 pm:

    Biss’ response is the only intellectually honest answer.


  9. - Rich Miller - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 2:56 pm:

    ===the only intellectually honest answer===

    You can advocate all you want for independent maps. Quinn did it, too. For a very long time. Then he signed Madigan’s bill.

    That’s why I asked the question.


  10. - Wizzard of Ozzie - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 3:05 pm:

    The idea that Mike Kasper is influencing Kennedy’s policy on redistricting is a little silly. If Kasper was influencing Kennedy, then Kennedy wouldn’t be so vocal against the Speaker.

    I’m going to guess they asked their running mate before giving this position… you know, the guy who ran the effort for redistricting reform.


  11. - Norseman - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 3:27 pm:

    === You can advocate all you want for independent maps. Quinn did it, too. For a very long time. Then he signed Madigan’s bill. ===

    So he vetoes the bill simply because his advocacy failed. The commission gets formed and a partisan map is adopted by the party that gets lucky with the draw out of Lincoln’s hat.

    Not a good solution for even the most well intentioned reformer.


  12. - Rich Miller - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 3:30 pm:

    ===Not a good solution for even the most well intentioned reformer===

    Sometimes, you just gotta play hardball. The Dems would never let it get that far.


  13. - Anon0091 - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 3:31 pm:

    JB is serious about this. I don’t think people get that.


  14. - Belle - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 3:44 pm:

    I can understand why Biss can’t pledge but who has Kennedy talked with?
    This matters to me since I live in the 2nd Ward, on the border of the 1st which has to win the prize for the most gerry-mandered location on earth—borders run thru alleys.


  15. - SaulGoodman - Monday, Mar 5, 18 @ 5:01 pm:

    **I can understand why Biss can’t pledge but who has Kennedy talked with?**

    As someone else said - Biss seems to be the only person who actually knows and understands the process laid out in the Constitution.


  16. - TheJackalFromMontCo - Tuesday, Mar 6, 18 @ 4:05 pm:

    So, Rich, did you take the time to send Libertarian nominee Kash Jackson the same question as an attempt to be truly fair and balanced?

    Politics in Illinois isn’t all about Democrats and Republicans…you want an informed public? Then you include Jackson and current Constitution Party nominee Randy Stufflebeam in your distribution of questions.

    It’s only fair to all voters in order to be informed.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Henyard files to run again as Dolton village president
* Isabel's afternoon roundup
* Strong press pop for CTU, but actual solution is highly doubtful
* Question of the day
* Roundup: Madigan corruption trial continues
* Nearly 5,000 entries received in flag redesign contest
* Open thread
* Isabel’s morning briefing
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Live coverage
* Selected press releases (Live updates)
* Sign, sign, everywhere a sign
* Yesterday's stories

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Loading


Main Menu
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

Archives
October 2024
September 2024
August 2024
July 2024
June 2024
May 2024
April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

Syndication

RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0




Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller