* Gov. Rauner was asked yesterday by Bernie Schoenburg about recent allegations made by Sen. Sam McCann regarding the 2015 AFSCME arbitration bill vote…
He said Rauner suggested he skip the vote if he wouldn’t vote no, but made it clear that there was “one way to make him angry,” which would be a “yes” vote.
“And he looked at me, and said, ‘I’ll destroy you and your family if you go through with this,’” McCann said.
“No, I did not say that,” Rauner told Bernie with a laugh. Schoenburg asked if McCann was lying. “There’s a lot of wild stuff goes on in politics, I’ll say that,” Rauner replied.
Dahl: Speaking of that. House Bill 40, Ives and Madigan are together and Swedish grandparents. I mean, you’ve got a reputation for not telling the truth. [Rauner laughs.] How can people cast a vote for you with all that stacked up against you?
Rauner: I’ve fought hard for the people of Illinois to create a better future. We need to grow more jobs, we need to bring down our property taxes, we need integrity in government with term limits. I’m fightin’ for the people and a better future for our people and our children and grandchildren…
Dahl: But what about being a man of your word? You’re taking on water there.
Rauner: People know that I’m a fighter on principles that will make us a better future. Lower taxes, more jobs and integrity in government through term limits.
* Meanwhile, here’s a fun little snippet that came in over the transom. It’s from Gov. Rauner’s speech last night to the Annual Innovations in Construction, Asphalt, and Transportation Conference in Peoria…
And my kids were leavin’ Illinois. I’ve got six kids, they were leavin’ Illinois. I said ‘This is ridiculous.’ And my partners in my bidness said, ‘Bruce we gotta get out of here, we gotta leave.’ And I said: ‘I ain’t not leaving Illinois. I was born here. I’ve lived here my whole life. I’m not gonna run away. We’re gonna fix this, and that’s why I decided to run for governor.’
“I ain’t not leaving Illinois.” Man, does that Dartmouth/Harvard grad love talking like a hillbilly. Not to mention that it’s a double negative. Maybe those Italy reports were true? /snark
* Related…
* State Rep. McSweeney: Tim Schneider is “head of the Rauner Party, not the Illinois Republican Party”
===“No, I did not say that,” Rauner told Bernie with a laugh. Schoenburg asked if McCann was lying. “There’s a lot of wild stuff goes on in politics, I’ll say that,” Rauner replied.===
So McCann is telling the truth?
Kinda like when the Secretary of State never really denied what he called the President.
That’s right. Exactly right.
===Tim Schneider is “head of the Rauner Party, not the Illinois Republican Party”===
Pathetic; He can’t even tell the truth when he is told they already know the answer. He reverts to talking points, and changes narrative. Most real Republicans can not vote for this guy. He is just to embarrassing. Time for a new face in the Governor’s office.
The dishonesty that IS the Bruce Rauner brand is predicated that he thinks the people of Illinois are so … that whatever he (Bruce) says, they’ll believe it to be true.
===He thinks they’re a bunch of s-kickin’ rubes.===
I am a s-kickin’ rube, and his act never worked except on people that are going to vote R anyway.
- People Over Parties - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:18 pm:
When someone has @1980reagan as their Twitter handle, they really mean bidness.
- Grandson of Man - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:19 pm:
Rauner said he’s gonna hang Madigan around people’s necks.
Rauner said he’s gonna blow up Pritzker.
It’s not hard at all to believe that Rauner threatened McCann, or that he threatened his former business associate.
His whole political career has been about destroying Afscme. Which he thinks will happen in the Janus decision.
It’s never been about anything else.
He doesn’t care
He’s never cared.
About Illinois.
Perfidy Uber alles
Mont Pelerin through and through.
Why does Rauner think he can get away with his… stylings?
As @StatehouseChick says… “Simple”
Let’s revisit those words of Mr. Breen…
===In the face of overwhelming evidence of Rauner’s inability to competently administer the Illinois government, inability to stand up to Mike Madigan effectively, and inability to keep his word and his commitments, I can no longer support him.===
… and yet… today Mr. Breen supports Bruce Rauner.
Rep. McSweeney, who isn’t a phony, isn’t swayed.
So… Rauner will keep this up, because those like Mr. Breen, and their righteous indignation “always” come back from their principles.
So now it’s time to say goodbye to Bruce n all his kin,
They’d like to take this to thank you for voting Rauner in.
You’re all invited in November to vote him in agin.
To have a heapin’ helpin’ of disfunctionality.
Rauner, that is
Set a spell
He ain’t not leaving Illinois
So, we’re otta here!
This is just another reason why I love Illinois politics. Great orators, deep thinkers, forward looking “leaders” yet able to relate to the “little people” We are so fortunate.
Rauner wants Independents, Democrats, even Republicans “tired of the status quo”
-It’s about defeating Donald Trumps favorite Governor by all means necessary. Rauner wants so bad to detach himself from Trump I say tie him around Rauner’s neck. Let it be known that Rauner is Trumps favorite Governor.
Do to not merely a lack of accomplishments, but abject failure Rauner was facing a difficult re-election fight. Signing SB 40 sunk any hope he had to be successful. The true believers have turned their back upon him.
Dems are letting Rauner form the campaign of JB being Madigan’s handpicked candidate… JB offers a weak response to Rauner on the national guard issue telling Rauner to stand up to Trump. Labeling Rauner as Trumps fav would do a lot more damage and not be as dull as saying stand up to Trump.
===Dems are letting Rauner form the campaign of JB being Madigan’s handpicked candidate… JB offers a weak response to Rauner on the national guard issue telling Rauner to stand up to Trump.===
Macro messaging to a micro response.
I hear ya. I’ve said “no quarter” myself many times…
I also realize Rauner can’t get his act together right now.
It’s best to let your opponent in the short term twist in the wind on their own.
Either way, there isn’t a wrong answer, Rauner is struggling with honesty and a constituency. Two things winnng campaigns have.
Rauner is labeling all of his opponents as a Madigan favorite or handpicked etc etc. It’s time for dems to return the favor to Dobald Trumps favorite Governor. Stop being weak.
I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin’ bushwackin’, hornswagglin’ cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter
The real Trump supporters would already know Rauner is not Trumps fav. The label is to further turn off and dems or independent voter that might vote for Rauner over JB
It just doesn’t matter what either campaign does. It’s math. Rauner cannot win because of Trump’s victory in 2016, which has caused a surge of Democratic interest. Every other factor (Democratic intransigence causing a budget crisis and causing even the popular elements of the Turnaround Agenda to die off; demographics evolving in this country in a way that will continue to favor liberal voting; Rauner’s inability or unwillingness to pursue a consistent path and to take small victories where available) all militate a massive Democratic victory this November.
Analyzing the campaign in any detail is like shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic, which is a particularly apt analogy because both parties generally support policies ensuring the state’s long-term crash and ruin.
===The real Trump supporters would already know Rauner is not Trumps fav. The label is to further turn off and dems or independent voter that might vote for Rauner over JB==
(Sigh)
You think only the Trump supporters know Rauner’s Trunp status?
The same way the Trump supporters know, others know too.
I get your take, but why help Rauner?
Let Rauner twist… in April… with no constituency, low conservative support, and Ives letting her wounds to Rauner fester?
There’s time. This specific moment, it ain’t time.
I wish Rep’s Raymond Poe, Rich Brauer and Wayne Rosenthal were in a position to be honest at no expense to themselves: did they have to choose between the glue factory or greener pastures? Was the governor afraid they would represent their “union” constituency?
I believe the real answer to this would lend credibility to McCann’s claims.
The governor wants Governor’s representatives, not State representatives. This…This…is a subversion of the democratic process.
Have whatever iteration of the “The Best Team in America” we’re on right now not let him know that the laugh is the “tell” that he’s lying or covering up? He did it each time here.
Also, “ain’t not?” Double negative. That means “arrivederci!”
Despite being a bad Governor Rauner would have lost had he not labeled Ive’s as Madigans favorite Republican.. Yet you think labeling Rauner as Trumps fav will help in in a state Trump lost by 16.
==Is there anyone who can’t see the contempt he holds for the people he puts on that act for? He thinks they’re a bunch of s-kickin’ rubes.==
I find it very insulting - this abasement of the language doesn’t show respect for the voters you think you’re courting (I’m not sure who exactly he’s courting these days), it’s just embarrassing.
Also, “I ain’t not leaving Illinois”, syntactically, is a double negative - therefore, an affirmative = “I’m leaving Illinois.”
Real; The man has a 30% approval rating. He almost lost to a one term Representative. He is hated by pro-life. He lied to a Catholic Cardinal. Unions hate this guy. People who want immigration reform are livid. He has no real base. Veteran groups are ready to burn him in effigy, for the Quincy Home disaster.There is no reason to use your line of attack at this time. He is self imploding. Like OW says “It is April.”
- People Over Parties - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:15 pm:
===Rauner would have lost had he not labeled Ive’s as Madigans favorite Republican===
I’ve got to say you do know it all. Maybe more than Donald Trumps favorite Governor.==
Look dude, no offense but OW is right and you are wrong. For Pete’s sake, Rauner just signed a “sanctuary state” bill (not really, but that’s what trump humpers would call it) not too long ago. Given trumps giant baby tantrum over immigration, this argument you’re making doesn’t even make sense.
Look dude, no offense but OW is right and you are wrong. For Pete’s sake, Rauner just signed a “sanctuary state” bill (not
Hey smart guy. Rauner signed that bill purely to detach himself from Trump. If he vetoed it then dems would of hammered him as supporting Trump so Rauner made a political move. Get off the bandwagon and get informed.
(Tips cap to - Retired Educator - and - Lester Holt’s Mustache -)
Trump on his own is under water in Illinois, but polling better than Rauner, with a different set of base voters, voters that Trump may have, but Rauner may not.
Addition is what Rauner needs.
Ives is purposely trying to “Kirk” Rauner, as was the long play goal.
Rauner, as a caricature phony, who can be less than truthful, signed HB40, vetoed a “gun bill”, signed criminal justice reform and has yet to sign a full fiscal year budget…
==Just curious if you still feel that way or if over the last few weeks Munger made up less ground than you expected?===
Since we both (I dunno really about you, but I definitely know for a fact I …definitely don’t) have polls, publicly seen or discussed polls, and with Munger down 8 with 19% undecided, the silence in both camps right now makes me want to think had both sprinted away beyond what a POTUS universe could define, there might be a leak or three.
This might, now, mirror Frerichs-Cross in statewide closeness, and if that is my thought on this, then I have to then base that that on a perceived closing of that 8 point gap, which I thought would happen with Munger swamping Mendoza in Ads.
If Munger loses, if she does, given all these parameters now, the weeks and weeks and weeks of holding back dollars instead of building up a stronger name ID could be seen as a mitigating factor.
Mendoza, even in that poll, was underperforming both Duckworth and Clinton. That has been a challenge, maybe, in all this too?
===Rauner signed that bill purely to detach himself from Trump. If he vetoed it then dems would of hammered him as supporting Trump so Rauner made a political move.===
–That’s an engineering conference.
It attracts transportation design and engineering leaders from across the country and around the world….I can’t believe that’s approach he took to this event.–
Dang gummint, dem s-for-brain rascals at the gol-darn BTIA(TM) done tole me they was a buncha a-scratchin’ hicks, just like me.
If Rauner needs a character witness on the lying stuff, I imagine Gov. Greitens would be willing to cut another spot for him.
The price might be higher than $100K now, as Greitens has some serious lawyering bills to pay. On the bright side, Greitens likely will have a lot of time on his hands in the very near future, so availability won’t be a problem (until the trial, anyway).
On the question, “Do you approve or disapprove of the job performance of Eric Greitens as governor?” a plurality of 47 percent said they disapprove. Forty-one percent said they approve and 12 percent said they aren’t sure. […]
Even among his fellow Republicans, just 63 percent say they approve of Greitens’ job performance, while 20 percent disapprove and 17 don’t know. Those are dismal numbers in hyperpartisan times, with incumbents typically able to count on in-party approval rates of 80 percent or more.
- Chicago Cynic - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:05 pm:
Oh well….buh bye Bruce…
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:08 pm:
===“No, I did not say that,” Rauner told Bernie with a laugh. Schoenburg asked if McCann was lying. “There’s a lot of wild stuff goes on in politics, I’ll say that,” Rauner replied.===
So McCann is telling the truth?
Kinda like when the Secretary of State never really denied what he called the President.
That’s right. Exactly right.
===Tim Schneider is “head of the Rauner Party, not the Illinois Republican Party”===
It’s Raunerite Party, Representative.
Raunerite. Party.
- @misterjayem - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:10 pm:
“I ain’t not leaving Illinois.”
The title of my jug band’s first single.
– MrJM
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:13 pm:
–’ And my partners in my bidness said, ‘Bruce we gotta get out of here, we gotta leave.’ And I said: ‘I ain’t not leaving Illinois.–
Is there anyone who can’t see the contempt he holds for the people he puts on that act for? He thinks they’re a bunch of s-kickin’ rubes.
- Homer J. Quinn - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:15 pm:
the Billionaire Bumpkin has returned.
- Retired Educator - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:16 pm:
Pathetic; He can’t even tell the truth when he is told they already know the answer. He reverts to talking points, and changes narrative. Most real Republicans can not vote for this guy. He is just to embarrassing. Time for a new face in the Governor’s office.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:16 pm:
The dishonesty that IS the Bruce Rauner brand is predicated that he thinks the people of Illinois are so … that whatever he (Bruce) says, they’ll believe it to be true.
That or…
“I can fib. No one cares.”
Either way, it’s who Rauner is, costumes and all.
- Ducky LaMoore - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:18 pm:
===He thinks they’re a bunch of s-kickin’ rubes.===
I am a s-kickin’ rube, and his act never worked except on people that are going to vote R anyway.
- People Over Parties - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:18 pm:
When someone has @1980reagan as their Twitter handle, they really mean bidness.
- Grandson of Man - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:19 pm:
Rauner said he’s gonna hang Madigan around people’s necks.
Rauner said he’s gonna blow up Pritzker.
It’s not hard at all to believe that Rauner threatened McCann, or that he threatened his former business associate.
- Honeybear - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:20 pm:
His whole political career has been about destroying Afscme. Which he thinks will happen in the Janus decision.
It’s never been about anything else.
He doesn’t care
He’s never cared.
About Illinois.
Perfidy Uber alles
Mont Pelerin through and through.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:21 pm:
“I’m with Rauner. I’m easily swayed from my own critique…
…that questioned Rauner on his word and his trustworthiness to it.
Being a phony to your word like Rauner is easy once you get use to it.”
- Fake Peter Breen
- Keyrock - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:26 pm:
I heard he was speaking to the Harvard Club Monday night. Anybody have a video?
Did all his g’s come back at that talk?
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:26 pm:
Why does Rauner think he can get away with his… stylings?
As @StatehouseChick says… “Simple”
Let’s revisit those words of Mr. Breen…
===In the face of overwhelming evidence of Rauner’s inability to competently administer the Illinois government, inability to stand up to Mike Madigan effectively, and inability to keep his word and his commitments, I can no longer support him.===
… and yet… today Mr. Breen supports Bruce Rauner.
Rep. McSweeney, who isn’t a phony, isn’t swayed.
So… Rauner will keep this up, because those like Mr. Breen, and their righteous indignation “always” come back from their principles.
- DuPage Saint - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:27 pm:
“Integrity in government through term limits”. Not by telling the truth and keeping your word?
- Juice - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:27 pm:
“I’ve lived here my whole life.”
Went to high school in Arizona. Undergrad in New Hampshire and grad school in Cambridge, Massachusetts
No wonder he gets confused about his grandparents’ biography. He can’t even keep his own straight.
- Annonin' - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:28 pm:
Never forget the Arizona female biz who he phtsically threatened and sued and then lied about. Truth not an important element to GovJunk.
- VanillaMan - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:28 pm:
“I ain’t not leaving Illinois.”
So now it’s time to say goodbye to Bruce n all his kin,
They’d like to take this to thank you for voting Rauner in.
You’re all invited in November to vote him in agin.
To have a heapin’ helpin’ of disfunctionality.
Rauner, that is
Set a spell
He ain’t not leaving Illinois
So, we’re otta here!
- illini - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:29 pm:
This is just another reason why I love Illinois politics. Great orators, deep thinkers, forward looking “leaders” yet able to relate to the “little people” We are so fortunate.
- VanillaMan - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:33 pm:
My favorite part of Rauner’s campaign events is when he does dueling banjos with the porch kid.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:35 pm:
–My favorite part of Rauner’s campaign events is when he does dueling banjos with the porch kid.–
If you ever hear him say, “you’ve got a purty mouth” — run.
- Roadrager - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:41 pm:
==Is there anyone who can’t see the contempt he holds for the people he puts on that act for? He thinks they’re a bunch of s-kickin’ rubes.==
I’ve long thought the governor’s G-dropping was an affectation that indicates he views the people he’s addressing as lessers.
- Don Gerard - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:42 pm:
I wouldn’t believe him if he swore he were lying…
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:45 pm:
Rauner views all the people he addresses as lessers.
- Real - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:55 pm:
Why don’t the dems get a bit smart and start calling Rauner “Donald Trumps favorite Govenor”?
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 1:59 pm:
===Why don’t the dems get a bit smart and start calling Rauner “Donald Trumps favorite Govenor”?===
Right now,
Rauner has no true constituency.
Rauner wants Independents, Democrats, even Republicans “tired of the status quo”
In reality, having no constituency and dodging Trump is far better than being “Trump’s favorite” anything.
Why give Rauner any semblance of a constituency… other than those like Mr. Breen.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:00 pm:
“How can you talk if you haven’t got a brain?
I don’t know, but some people without brains do an awful lot of talking.”
- Streator Curmudgeon - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:05 pm:
==”I ain’t not leavin’ Illinois…”==
Sooo, they loaded up the truck and they moved to Beverly. Hills, that is. Swimmin’ pools and movie stars.
- Real - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:11 pm:
Right now,
Rauner has no true constituency.
Rauner wants Independents, Democrats, even Republicans “tired of the status quo”
-It’s about defeating Donald Trumps favorite Governor by all means necessary. Rauner wants so bad to detach himself from Trump I say tie him around Rauner’s neck. Let it be known that Rauner is Trumps favorite Governor.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:14 pm:
- Real -
It’s early.
Plus the conservatives and the Right aren’t with Rauner yet.
Wait till the Right starts coming back to Rauner… “then”…
It’s April.
- Al - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:14 pm:
Do to not merely a lack of accomplishments, but abject failure Rauner was facing a difficult re-election fight. Signing SB 40 sunk any hope he had to be successful. The true believers have turned their back upon him.
- Former Hillrod - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:17 pm:
There goes that lyin’ laugh again. To paraphrase an Eagles tune ‘you can’t hide your lying laugh’.
- Real - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:18 pm:
Dems are letting Rauner form the campaign of JB being Madigan’s handpicked candidate… JB offers a weak response to Rauner on the national guard issue telling Rauner to stand up to Trump. Labeling Rauner as Trumps fav would do a lot more damage and not be as dull as saying stand up to Trump.
- Quizzical - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:23 pm:
If you’ve got six kids and they all move out of state, maybe it’s you that’s the problem.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:24 pm:
===Dems are letting Rauner form the campaign of JB being Madigan’s handpicked candidate… JB offers a weak response to Rauner on the national guard issue telling Rauner to stand up to Trump.===
Macro messaging to a micro response.
I hear ya. I’ve said “no quarter” myself many times…
I also realize Rauner can’t get his act together right now.
It’s best to let your opponent in the short term twist in the wind on their own.
Either way, there isn’t a wrong answer, Rauner is struggling with honesty and a constituency. Two things winnng campaigns have.
- Arsenal - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:28 pm:
==Why don’t the dems get a bit smart and start calling Rauner “Donald Trumps favorite Govenor”?==
Why solve Rauner’s base problem for him?
- Michelle Flaherty - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:28 pm:
That was the governor’s speech at ICAT?!
That’s an engineering conference.
It attracts transportation design and engineering leaders from across the country and around the world.
It’s hosted by Bradley University’s engineering department.
Here’s the lineup of speakers:
http://icat.bradley.edu/traffic/
I can’t believe that’s approach he took to this event.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:29 pm:
===Why solve Rauner’s base problem for him?===
… and give him a constituency he hasn’t owned, for better AND worse.
- Real - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:30 pm:
Rauner is labeling all of his opponents as a Madigan favorite or handpicked etc etc. It’s time for dems to return the favor to Dobald Trumps favorite Governor. Stop being weak.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:31 pm:
===Stop being weak.===
Weak is not having a constituency.
- PlayK8 - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:32 pm:
I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin’ bushwackin’, hornswagglin’ cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter
- Real - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:32 pm:
The real Trump supporters would already know Rauner is not Trumps fav. The label is to further turn off and dems or independent voter that might vote for Rauner over JB
- Chris Widger - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:34 pm:
It just doesn’t matter what either campaign does. It’s math. Rauner cannot win because of Trump’s victory in 2016, which has caused a surge of Democratic interest. Every other factor (Democratic intransigence causing a budget crisis and causing even the popular elements of the Turnaround Agenda to die off; demographics evolving in this country in a way that will continue to favor liberal voting; Rauner’s inability or unwillingness to pursue a consistent path and to take small victories where available) all militate a massive Democratic victory this November.
Analyzing the campaign in any detail is like shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic, which is a particularly apt analogy because both parties generally support policies ensuring the state’s long-term crash and ruin.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:37 pm:
===The real Trump supporters would already know Rauner is not Trumps fav. The label is to further turn off and dems or independent voter that might vote for Rauner over JB==
(Sigh)
You think only the Trump supporters know Rauner’s Trunp status?
The same way the Trump supporters know, others know too.
I get your take, but why help Rauner?
Let Rauner twist… in April… with no constituency, low conservative support, and Ives letting her wounds to Rauner fester?
There’s time. This specific moment, it ain’t time.
- Stumpy's bunker - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:39 pm:
So, are we to believe McCann was threatened?
I wish Rep’s Raymond Poe, Rich Brauer and Wayne Rosenthal were in a position to be honest at no expense to themselves: did they have to choose between the glue factory or greener pastures? Was the governor afraid they would represent their “union” constituency?
I believe the real answer to this would lend credibility to McCann’s claims.
The governor wants Governor’s representatives, not State representatives. This…This…is a subversion of the democratic process.
- 47th Ward - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:40 pm:
Lol PlayK8. Great minds something something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5Mr5eCF2U
- Lt Guv - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:41 pm:
What a maroon!
Have whatever iteration of the “The Best Team in America” we’re on right now not let him know that the laugh is the “tell” that he’s lying or covering up? He did it each time here.
Also, “ain’t not?” Double negative. That means “arrivederci!”
- Real - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:41 pm:
Donald Trumps favorite Governor is at his best when lying.
- Real - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:47 pm:
Despite being a bad Governor Rauner would have lost had he not labeled Ive’s as Madigans favorite Republican.. Yet you think labeling Rauner as Trumps fav will help in in a state Trump lost by 16.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:49 pm:
===Yet you think labeling Rauner as Trumps fav will help in in a state Trump lost by 16.===
LOL…
You’re not very good at math…
Rauner NEEDS Trump supporters.
Saying he’s Trump’s favorite is ADDING for Rauner right now, not hurting Rauner.
Yikes, man…
- Real - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:51 pm:
OW
Rauner still is afraid to say Trumps name.
- dbk - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:52 pm:
==Is there anyone who can’t see the contempt he holds for the people he puts on that act for? He thinks they’re a bunch of s-kickin’ rubes.==
I find it very insulting - this abasement of the language doesn’t show respect for the voters you think you’re courting (I’m not sure who exactly he’s courting these days), it’s just embarrassing.
Also, “I ain’t not leaving Illinois”, syntactically, is a double negative - therefore, an affirmative = “I’m leaving Illinois.”
Grrr.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:54 pm:
===Rauner still is afraid to say Trumps name.===
… and you, right now, want to start a narrative that Rauner is Trump’s favorite?
“Why???”
Rauner is at 30% approval without a base abs you want to give a phony premise that Rauner is a Trumper?
Let it fester. Why build Rauner’s “base bonafides”
Again, yikes…
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:57 pm:
(Sigh)
Unless you get Rauner to publicly say he’s against or for Trump, why right now, “today” help Rauner consolidate ANYTHING?
Rauner is arguably the most vulnerable incumbent governor in America, who has no constituency, and at 30% approval.
“Rauner failed”
- Whatever - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:59 pm:
Rauner’s a caricature of himself. Embarrassing.
- Real - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 2:59 pm:
OW
By labeling Rauner is Trumps fav it will force the press to ask Rauner if he is Trumps fav etc etc. It will put Rauner in an uncomfortable spot.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:02 pm:
===By labeling Rauner is Trumps fav it will force the press to ask Rauner if he is Trumps fav etc etc. It will put Rauner in an uncomfortable spot.==
LOL
Where have you been since December 2015?
…
LOL
- Real - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:11 pm:
OW
I’ve got to say you do know it all. Maybe more than Donald Trumps favorite Governor.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:12 pm:
- Real -
Why do you think they’re not making that direct connection?
Why?
- Retired Educator - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:14 pm:
Real; The man has a 30% approval rating. He almost lost to a one term Representative. He is hated by pro-life. He lied to a Catholic Cardinal. Unions hate this guy. People who want immigration reform are livid. He has no real base. Veteran groups are ready to burn him in effigy, for the Quincy Home disaster.There is no reason to use your line of attack at this time. He is self imploding. Like OW says “It is April.”
- People Over Parties - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:15 pm:
===Rauner would have lost had he not labeled Ive’s as Madigans favorite Republican===
The ad did her in.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:15 pm:
Also, explain the axiom…
“If your opponent is self destructing, let them”
- Vole - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:24 pm:
Nice recruitin’ ad you got there Mr. Stayin’ … for Missouri, Indiana, Iowa and Wisconsin.
With fixes like this we are in the fix we are in.
- Lester Holt’s Mustache - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:25 pm:
==OW
I’ve got to say you do know it all. Maybe more than Donald Trumps favorite Governor.==
Look dude, no offense but OW is right and you are wrong. For Pete’s sake, Rauner just signed a “sanctuary state” bill (not really, but that’s what trump humpers would call it) not too long ago. Given trumps giant baby tantrum over immigration, this argument you’re making doesn’t even make sense.
- Real - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:30 pm:
Look dude, no offense but OW is right and you are wrong. For Pete’s sake, Rauner just signed a “sanctuary state” bill (not
Hey smart guy. Rauner signed that bill purely to detach himself from Trump. If he vetoed it then dems would of hammered him as supporting Trump so Rauner made a political move. Get off the bandwagon and get informed.
- Real - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:33 pm:
OW is actually wrong and does mot know what he is talking about. Just like OW promised Munger would beat Mendoza. I remember that.Lol
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:37 pm:
(Tips cap to - Retired Educator - and - Lester Holt’s Mustache -)
Trump on his own is under water in Illinois, but polling better than Rauner, with a different set of base voters, voters that Trump may have, but Rauner may not.
Addition is what Rauner needs.
Ives is purposely trying to “Kirk” Rauner, as was the long play goal.
Rauner, as a caricature phony, who can be less than truthful, signed HB40, vetoed a “gun bill”, signed criminal justice reform and has yet to sign a full fiscal year budget…
… let it all twist in April.
“Rauner failed”
It’s where the 30% approval might stay.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:38 pm:
Why do you think they’re not making that direct connection?
Make a case.
Right now, saying they should isn’t a case.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 3:46 pm:
===Just like OW promised Munger would===
(Sigh)
===- Oswego Willy - Monday, Oct 31, 16 @ 10:03 am
- TV Ads -
==Just curious if you still feel that way or if over the last few weeks Munger made up less ground than you expected?===
Since we both (I dunno really about you, but I definitely know for a fact I …definitely don’t) have polls, publicly seen or discussed polls, and with Munger down 8 with 19% undecided, the silence in both camps right now makes me want to think had both sprinted away beyond what a POTUS universe could define, there might be a leak or three.
This might, now, mirror Frerichs-Cross in statewide closeness, and if that is my thought on this, then I have to then base that that on a perceived closing of that 8 point gap, which I thought would happen with Munger swamping Mendoza in Ads.
If Munger loses, if she does, given all these parameters now, the weeks and weeks and weeks of holding back dollars instead of building up a stronger name ID could be seen as a mitigating factor.
Mendoza, even in that poll, was underperforming both Duckworth and Clinton. That has been a challenge, maybe, in all this too?
It may be a Frerichs-Cross finish===
So… what happened?
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 4:43 pm:
===Rauner signed that bill purely to detach himself from Trump. If he vetoed it then dems would of hammered him as supporting Trump so Rauner made a political move.===
LOL
Then what’s with your ignorance?
You just said… Rauner has inoculated himself.
That’s not smart guy logic you’re using.
- Eric Zorn - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 6:33 pm:
Your transcript is wrong! It’s “I ain’t not leavin’ Illinois,” with a dropped g, natch.
- Generic Drone - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 8:14 pm:
Vanilla Man. Could not read it without singin it. Great response.
- Leigh John-Ella - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 9:52 pm:
Hey look, Gov. Gary Forby.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 10:03 pm:
–That’s an engineering conference.
It attracts transportation design and engineering leaders from across the country and around the world….I can’t believe that’s approach he took to this event.–
Dang gummint, dem s-for-brain rascals at the gol-darn BTIA(TM) done tole me they was a buncha a-scratchin’ hicks, just like me.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 10:49 pm:
If Rauner needs a character witness on the lying stuff, I imagine Gov. Greitens would be willing to cut another spot for him.
The price might be higher than $100K now, as Greitens has some serious lawyering bills to pay. On the bright side, Greitens likely will have a lot of time on his hands in the very near future, so availability won’t be a problem (until the trial, anyway).
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Apr 11, 18 @ 11:10 pm:
Word, he has much better numbers than Rauner
On the question, “Do you approve or disapprove of the job performance of Eric Greitens as governor?” a plurality of 47 percent said they disapprove. Forty-one percent said they approve and 12 percent said they aren’t sure. […]
Even among his fellow Republicans, just 63 percent say they approve of Greitens’ job performance, while 20 percent disapprove and 17 don’t know. Those are dismal numbers in hyperpartisan times, with incumbents typically able to count on in-party approval rates of 80 percent or more.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/poll-greitens-approval-underwater-in-midst-of-scandal-especially-among/article_fe186c86-cdc4-5adc-8458-4e0956520f20.html
- Rabid - Thursday, Apr 12, 18 @ 5:05 am:
Dianna has to be proud as punch of her Bo
- Rabid - Thursday, Apr 12, 18 @ 5:16 am:
Rauner puts the goober in gubernatorial
- Rabid - Thursday, Apr 12, 18 @ 5:33 am:
Term limits are for losers