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Tuesday, Jan 29, 2019 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Illinois News Network

A freshman Illinois lawmaker wants to allow public schools to publicly display the motto “In God We Trust,” something church-state separation advocates say alienates nonreligious students.

One of the first bills Lewisville Republican state Rep. Darrin Bailey filed after taking office this month was House Bill 341, which says a school board can allow the national motto “In God We Trust” to be conspicuously posted on school grounds. Bailey says the current political climate shows a need for a return to Christian principles.

“As a God-fearing Christian, I believe that the lack of such is the problem in our country today,” he said.

His bill would not make displaying the national motto mandatory.

* Synopsis of another bill introduced by Rep. Bailey

Amends the Department of Public Health Powers and Duties Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Requires the Department of Public Health to create and maintain a list of each immunizing agent derived from aborted fetal tissue and any alternative immunizing agents. Provides that the Department shall ensure that, before administering an immunizing agent derived from aborted fetal tissue to an individual, a health care provider shall provide to the individual or, if the individual is a child, to the parent, guardian, or person in loco parentis of the child: (1) notification that the immunizing agent was derived from aborted fetal tissue; (2) if an immunizing agent that is not an immunizing agent derived from aborted fetal tissue is available as an alternative to an immunizing agent derived from aborted fetal tissue, an offer of the alternative; and (3) notification of the option to decline the receipt of the immunizing agent.

* From a story about vaccine myths

Vaccines don’t contain fetal tissue. The vaccine against rubella — also known as German measles — was created in the 1960s using a virus isolated from the tissue of fetuses whose mothers had rubella. The women chose abortion because of concerns about birth defects caused by rubella, according to the History of Vaccine website, a project of the College of Physicians of Philadelphia. Those birth defects include deafness, heart disease, mental retardation, a devastating brain inflammation called encephalitis and pneumonia.

Vaccines against hepatitis A, chickenpox and rabies also have been made with cell lines that derive from fetal tissue, Offit says. The viruses are purified before being used in vaccines, and no human cells remain in the final shots given to children.

The National Catholic Bioethics Center has said that Catholics are “morally free to use the vaccine, regardless of its historical association with abortion. The reason is that the risk to public health, if one chooses not to vaccinate, outweighs the legitimate concern about the origins of the vaccine. This is especially important for parents, who have a moral obligation to protect the life and health of their children and those around them. … It is important to note that descendant cells are not the cells of the aborted child. They never, themselves, formed a part of the victim’s body.”

* Illinois Policy Institute

A bill in the Illinois Senate could soon make it easier for more retailers to let you add a fifth of rum to the bottle of cola in a home delivery order.

On Jan. 16, state Sen. Don Harmon, D-Oak Park, introduced Senate Bill 54, which would allow third-party grocery delivery services to obtain a state-issued liquor license in any Illinois community. The proposal would also prevent municipalities from imposing blanket bans on the services.

As the popularity of third-party grocery delivery services has continued to surge, local communities have differed in their approach to regulating the delivery of alcohol. The purpose of the bill is to ease the regulatory burden on retailers and third-party services navigating that maze of local liquor ordinances, Harmon said.

“I think by and large [third-party delivery companies] shouldn’t be having to see who can get this and who can’t,” Harmon said in an interview. “It seemed to me like we should have a statewide system to regulate this appropriately … we should have a statewide standard.”

We already have this service in Springfield.

       

40 Comments
  1. - SW - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:09 pm:

    I can see the advertisements now: “You drunk? Out of liquor? Don’t get another DUI. We deliver!”


  2. - Nonbeleiver - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:14 pm:

    “A freshman Illinois lawmaker wants to allow public schools to publicly display the motto “In God We Trust,” something church-state separation advocates say alienates nonreligious students.”

    This is going nowhere. Must be doing it for attention.


  3. - illini - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:17 pm:

    It would appear that ALEC and Betsy DeVos are doing the thinking for Rep.Bailey.


  4. - @misterjayem - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:22 pm:

    “As a God-fearing Christian…”

    As a fan of Blazing Saddles, I’ll never be able to hear the phrase “God-fearing” without an implicit “white” preceding it.

    – MrJM


  5. - Cheryl44 - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:23 pm:

    I’ve have Jewel deliver liquor with a grocery delivery. I have to show the delivery guy my ID, in spite of my gray hair and the reading glasses I put on so I can see what it is I’m signing.


  6. - A 400lb. Guy on a bed - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:25 pm:

    That Rep. Bailey, he really “stands for something.”


  7. - Mortyathome - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:27 pm:

    Where does the GOP find these winners?


  8. - Donnie Elgin - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:28 pm:

    “something church-state separation advocates say alienates nonreligious students”

    It may alienate them but does it equate to establishment ?


  9. - {Sigh} - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:30 pm:

    Dear Rep. Darrin Bailey,

    I’m familiar with your district and it’s needs more than allowing the national motto “In God We Trust” to be conspicuously posted on school grounds. When you introduce bills like this, you give me yet another reason to miss David Reis.

    Try working on economic development issues.

    {Sigh}


  10. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:31 pm:

    Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.


  11. - PJ - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:33 pm:

    Rep. Bailey going for the Jeannie Ives Inaugural Trophy, awarded bi-annually to the Rep. who fails to get a single bill through a committee.


  12. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:35 pm:

    ===“As a God-fearing Christian, I believe that the lack of such is the problem in our country today,” he said.===

    Yeah, then there’s that whole freedom of religion thingy.

    Talk about going about an idea in a backwards way.


  13. - Jibba - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:35 pm:

    Rep. Bailey offers two solutions looking for a problem. Great way to stumble out of the gate. This is why no one believes the Republicans who say the culture wars are dead in Illinois.


  14. - BCOSEC - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:36 pm:

    He is from Louisville, not Lewisville.


  15. - illini - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:39 pm:

    The late Jim White of KMOX radio had two favorite sayings - “You can’t fix stupid” and “Protect me from the GOOD people.”

    Pick and chose the appropriate quote.

    Now if I only had a store that would make a delivery of “soda” to my home in the boondocks…


  16. - Grandson of Man - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:42 pm:

    “As a God-fearing Christian, I believe that the lack of such is the problem in our country today”

    As an American, I disagree to the core. Our country’s very essence is keeping religion and government separate.

    ** A freshman Illinois lawmaker wants to allow public schools to publicly display the motto “In God We Trust” **

    Beware of those who honor with lips but whose hearts are far away. Those who put on public displays of faith but take away from the least of these while lavishing those with the most, they know neither the Father nor the Son.


  17. - NeverPoliticallyCorrect - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:55 pm:

    If it’s good enough for our money isn’t it good enough for our schools. I don’t know this rep and this certainly isn’t the biggest issue facing our state but our country was founded on freedom of religion not freedom from religion.


  18. - Nick Name - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 3:57 pm:

    The INN misspelled Rep. Bailey’s first name.

    Also, thanks, Rich, for the blurb dispelling the myth about vaccines and tissue from aborted fetuses.


  19. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 4:03 pm:

    If i have to see anymore stuff from Rep. Bailey, I am going to need that booze delivery.


  20. - Ryan - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 4:40 pm:

    As a nothing-fearing atheist, I’ll go along with this if “In Nothing We Trust” is displayed right next to it. Oh, and a Festivus pole, gotta have that.


  21. - A drop in - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 4:44 pm:

    The gender bathroom bill has got to be next.


  22. - Verdell - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 5:26 pm:

    As a resident of the 109th I’m proud of my representative. Rep. Bailey is following in the footsteps our founders, such as Samuel Adams who called for periods of prayer and fasting as a governor of Massachusetts in 1795. It’s sad to see we’ve drifted so far that people recoil at displaying what is already printed on our money. It’s a sad day.

    On the issues of vaccines the National Institute of Health admits this practice occurs. I do not understand the opposition to informing individuals what they are going to inject in their body.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29970932/


  23. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 5:29 pm:

    ===Rep. Bailey is following in the footsteps our founders, such as Samuel Adams who called for periods of prayer and fasting as a governor of Massachusetts in 1795.===

    Hmm…

    ===“As a God-fearing Christian, I believe that the lack of such is the problem in our country today,” he said.===

    Freedom of Religion and making it about Christianity? Not great.

    You want prayer, or a “In God We Trust” revisiting, ok… but make it about Christianity… that’s not going to be a good look. This isn’t Alabama.

    Nope.


  24. - Anon - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 5:45 pm:

    @Verdell, I would love to have a Sam Adams, with
    “In God We Trust” on it.


  25. - illini - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 5:48 pm:

    But, Willy, you don’t understand. there are some in this state that want us to become another Alabama.


  26. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 5:57 pm:

    ===there are some in this state that want us to become another Alabama.===

    Illini football could learn a lot from Bama football, maybe not in the title game…

    Bud, the reality of those wanting a “simpler” time, - Wordslinger - has waxed poetic to that, there were no simpler times.

    For me, there are two Alabamas;

    The one where deep roots and biases exist, now far less hidden, and far more aggressive, wrapping itself in religion, “history”, “tradition”, and bigotry.

    The other Alabama is the NASA center, Mobile’s shipyards… a want to bring thinking beyond 1968, 1988, 2018 and move forward, but that other Alabama isn’t as loud as the entrenched Alabama.

    Those here in Illinois wanting to be “Alabama” have no idea how backwards that thinking is and how much they would lose, thinking it’s a net gain. We need to be better in thinking.


  27. - illini - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 6:09 pm:

    @Willy - The “other” vs the “entrenched” is exactly correct.

    Yet, may in my part of the state would prefer the “entrenched” part of this legacy.

    And you are so correct “We need to be better in thinking.”


  28. - Jibba - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 7:31 pm:

    Verdell, what you call sad I see as sensible given our freedoms. Glad we live in such a great country that we can disagree. I’m more glad that your opinion is in the superminority.

    Regarding the vaccine thing, it is clear your link is not any type of scientific article or anything the purports to discuss the opinion of the NIH. Please don’t post pseudoscience here and expect anyone to buy it. Perhaps you didn’t read the article, just like it is obvious you didn’t read Rich’s post. Hint: when it starts like this “This opinion…”, it is not a scientific study.


  29. - Unreliable Sources - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 7:38 pm:

    *Louisville


  30. - Fayette County - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 8:38 pm:

    If my State Senator, Jason Plummer, sees these bills he will probably jump at the chance to introduce similar versions. These bills are good for talking points back home but wont go anywhere.


  31. - the old man - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 8:52 pm:

    First of all it is Louisville, not Lewisville. Second, see what the GOP gets when it elects Proft’s disciples


  32. - Altgelds Ghost - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 9:43 pm:

    Look at Representative Bailey’s website and read his bio and you will see exhibit 1 & 2 in the case for the demise of our great state. No doubt, the Dems also have elected some real beauties, but this guy is something special. He was the President of the local school board in Louisville, IL for the last 12 years and served on the board five years before becoming president. All the while he and his wife founded Full Armor Christian Academy. She continues to serve as Director of the school. The school website states they were started “to provide the Christian family with an alternative to secular humanistic education for their children with an instructional program based on the Christian perspective. To develop an appreciation of the Bible and an ability to make daily application to life.” An alternative to the education that Bailey is overseeing as president of the local school board. It used to be that the farmer legislators were officials of substance. Veterans or University Graduates. Times have changed. And not for the better.


  33. - Verdell - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 10:31 pm:

    @Jibba When I read responses like yours it pains me to realize how dumbed down our society has become. The abstract of an upcoming article that I linked to will be published in a peer-reviewed medical journal and it is not pseudoscience. The opinion is concerning “the licitness, quasi-benefits, and consequences of using aborted fetal tissue in vaccines,” not whether or not fetal tissue exists in some vaccines.

    In another journal:
    Jarzyna, Peter, Ngoc V. Doan, and Theresa A. Deisher. 2016. “Insertional Mutagenesis and Autoimmunity Induced Disease Caused by Human Fetal and Retroviral Residual Toxins in Vaccines.” Issues in Law & Medicine 31 (2): 221–214.

    the discussion is made on the potential negative consequences of fetal material in vaccines. It’s not up for debate whether or not this is occurring, the discussion is now what are the costs/benefits and ethics of such practice. Having an informed public is a good thing, I’m still at a loss on the resistance, but when reading some of the posts by the reprobates on here it’s becoming clear what the problem is.

    If you would like more academic reading material on this subject let me know, but I doubt it would benefit you.


  34. - Union Thug Gramma - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 10:45 pm:

    and why do I hear the rest of that phrase, “all others pay cash”? And I’m sure some cash has found its way into his campaign finances. His area may be majority Christian, but that isn’t true of much of this state.


  35. - Jibba - Tuesday, Jan 29, 19 @ 11:26 pm:

    Verdell, it astounds me the lengths that people go to find backup for their previously formed opinions. Your “medical journal” is published by a Catholic Medical association. The journal is about Catholic ethics in medicine. Your author is a prof at a Catholic university who has apparently published no articles at all on vaccines, as per his CV. The abstract is clearly opinion because it says that it is an opinion. Clearly, the morals of the Catholic Church are being proselytized here.

    The abstract does not claim that human fetal cells are present in the vaccine. If you can’t see that, I can’t help you. Good night.


  36. - Old and In The Way - Wednesday, Jan 30, 19 @ 12:31 am:

    In God We Trust………all others pay cash. Fixed it.


  37. - Mama - Wednesday, Jan 30, 19 @ 1:43 am:

    “Bailey says the current political climate shows a need for a return to Christian principles.”

    A person’s Church is the best place for one to learn about Christian or any other faith.

    By the way: Freedom of Religion is in the Constitution. Forcing one type of religion on a person of another faith is wrong.


  38. - Al - Wednesday, Jan 30, 19 @ 7:00 am:

    How about a bill requiring the State boiler-plate contracts requiring contractors to disclose fees paid to companies owned by elected officials or whom employ elected officials. Voters should know Winston and Strawn, the Speaker’s law firm and President of the Senate are often paid tens of thousands a years, sometimes hundreds of thousands doing legislative consulting work like the federally funded Dental Health Insurance program for the blind and disabled.


  39. - Jibba - Wednesday, Jan 30, 19 @ 8:11 am:

    Verdell…looking at your second article link, it took me 5 seconds on the google to find articles that debunk your medical journal, Issues n Law and Medicine, as filled wi5 anti vaccine and antiabortion articles, even labeling it pseudoscience. Why not give us a link to an article in the Lancet or New England Journal of Medicine next time, eh?

    Or instead, why don’t you just ask your doctor for vaccines where the originating virus that was used did not come from a source that you object to? Why drag all of us into it and cause the state to spend tens of thousands of dollars making registries and ensuring actions by doctors? Figure it out for yourself.


  40. - Suburban Mom - Wednesday, Jan 30, 19 @ 8:10 pm:

    Boy, Bailey sounds fun and super-effective

    But Verdell, as a devout Catholic with two degrees in theology and several children, including children with special needs, I totally admire someone who manages to twist Catholic ethical teaching to encourage more miscarriages and stillbirths. Good for you. I can tell you are definitely super-concerned about the health of mothers and babies, and not at all fighting a culture war where women and infants are collateral damage. /sarcasm


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