Capitol - Your Illinois News Radar » Ezike and Pritkzer talk testing - 65 new test sites open - Pritzker talks about May 1 easing - Responds to new federal lawsuit, references Trump plan - “We’re gonna keep doing what we need to do to keep people safe” - Again references how state is following Trump’s phase-in plan - Nobody’s gonna “run in and break up a gathering of churchgoers” - Repeats that convening is up to the legislature - Asked if non-existent state agency could help with unemployment claims - Explains that, just like Indiana, Illinois cities can imposes tighter restrictions - Points out to complaining Rockford reporter that he lives in a hot spot - “Good dialogue” with GOP delegation - Repeats that the legislature has authority over rent control - Points out Chicago has responsibility for cleaning mass transit - Dr. Ezike explains dropping positivity rates - Ezike explains “excess deaths” - Says state will test factory and retail workers “As fast as possible” - Explains airbridge - Again references White House’s re-opening plan - Talks face masks - Ezike talks what happens after food manufacturer outbreak
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Ezike and Pritkzer talk testing - 65 new test sites open - Pritzker talks about May 1 easing - Responds to new federal lawsuit, references Trump plan - “We’re gonna keep doing what we need to do to keep people safe” - Again references how state is following Trump’s phase-in plan - Nobody’s gonna “run in and break up a gathering of churchgoers” - Repeats that convening is up to the legislature - Asked if non-existent state agency could help with unemployment claims - Explains that, just like Indiana, Illinois cities can imposes tighter restrictions - Points out to complaining Rockford reporter that he lives in a hot spot - “Good dialogue” with GOP delegation - Repeats that the legislature has authority over rent control - Points out Chicago has responsibility for cleaning mass transit - Dr. Ezike explains dropping positivity rates - Ezike explains “excess deaths” - Says state will test factory and retail workers “As fast as possible” - Explains airbridge - Again references White House’s re-opening plan - Talks face masks - Ezike talks what happens after food manufacturer outbreak

Thursday, Apr 30, 2020 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Dr. Ezike opened the press conference to talk about the importance of testing. The state tested 13,200 in the previous 24 hours and 269,867 in total, about 2 percent of the state’s population.

The governor then went over what the state has done to acquire things to allow them to do so many tests. And then he talked about new testing sites

We’ve increased the number of public testing sites to 177 across the state. That’s up from 112 sites last Friday. These locations are entirely free, and they’re available in every region of the state.

Please pardon all transcription errors.

* And then he talked about the new EO on May 1…

I want to briefly touch on the changes that continue those efforts to move toward opening up, giving Illinoisans more flexibility, where it is safe to do so.

Starting tomorrow, retail stores can reopen by taking orders online and over the phone, and offering pickup and delivery. Greenhouses and garden centers will be opening with specified social distancing measures in place. Many of our state parks will be open and many golf courses open with strict social distancing measures in place. And elective surgeries that have been put off due to the crisis can now be scheduled in surgery centers and hospitals in compliance with IDPH guidance as we open things up and make progress.

Tomorrow will be the first day where adults and any children over the age of two and everyone medically able to tolerate a face covering will be required to wear one in any public place where they can’t maintain a six foot social distance.

All these changes represent a shift in our approach to COVID-19, a shift made possible by the millions of Illinoisans who have stepped up by staying home and keeping each other safe. To the vast, vast majority of you who believe in the power of being all in for your communities, thank you. Thank you for all that you’ve done and all that you continue to do it truly makes me proud of the people of our state.

* On to questions for the governor. Can you respond to the federal lawsuit filed by the Western Illinois pastor claiming his first amendment rights have been violated, and that the governor appears hostile to churches by not allowing them to gather. He plans to hold services Sunday. What is your reaction to that?…

Well first of all, so many of the pastors and faith leaders across the state have been partners with us and working with their parishioners to make sure that they’re staying at home and staying safe, and I’ve been grateful for their partnership in that.

These are difficult times for parishioners and for those of us who worship to not be able to access sometimes in person, your faith later. Especially as you know anxiety has come over people, coronavirus is a very serious infection that’s in the air, it’s around us and it’s caused people to need that kind of counsel. Most faith leaders have found new ways to connect with their parishioners on zoom conferencing, I’m holding services by teleconference. And I would encourage people to continue to do that.

And I would just urge the faith leaders who are concerned about the length of this to just put the health and safety of their congregants first. I think that’s uppermost in everybody’s minds, certainly uppermost in my mind.

And I would have everybody focused on the fact that we’re still climbing this ladder of hospitalizations and ICU beds being filled. And until we get to the other side, even according to President Trump’s plan, we really can’t begin to open up until we have 14 days of down cycle of those numbers.

* Reaction to the lawsuit specifically and the charges that his first amendment rights are violated, and really how far will you go to enforce the stay at home if he says he’s holding services Sunday?…

We’ve asked everybody to do the right thing and as I say parishioners and their pastors really have done the right thing across the state. So you know this person is, you know, a bit of an outlier. But everybody has the right to sue and we’ve seen in multiple states now, people have filed lawsuits on various things having to do with the stay at home order, but we’re gonna keep doing what we need to do to keep people safe.

* Several counties have either a sheriff or a state’s attorneys saying they won’t enforce your orders. Why should other counties think your orders are enforceable if other areas are refusing to enforce?…

Again, I would point people to the fact that people are still getting infected. More and more people are ending up in the hospital and more and more people are dying. We had 141 people die today. And not all of them were in Cook County or Chicago. Some of them were in Downstate Illinois. And it’s important for us just to pay attention to the fact that until we get to the other side of this, once again, I would point to President Trump’s plan, and their suggestion, put together with national experts that we really need to be extraordinarily careful until we begin to see those numbers subside.

* If people are starting to push back and saying well we’re not going to enforce this, we’re going to let you know people get away with. Going to church, for lack of a better phrase, by the way. Those were my words. What are you going to instruct you know the I don’t know state police or enforce state’s attorneys and district attorneys in various counties to double down?…

What I’m doubling down on is the fact that all the people who live in those counties are being put in harm’s way by those who are putting gatherings together of any sort, that are going to potentially infect others. And I’m doubling down on the idea that the health and safety of the people of those counties and of all across our state is at risk when people don’t follow the recommendations of the scientists, the doctors, the epidemiologists who are telling us that until we see a subsidence of these hospitalizations of infections, you heard they’re more than 2000 I think 2500 infections detected today, and that’s just a small fraction of those people who are in fact infected who don’t know that they are because we haven’t been able to test everybody. But we know that there are many, many people out there that are pre symptomatic, asymptomatic and yet have coronavirus. So if you put one of those people in a room full of parishioners, you run the risk that you’re going to get a kind of exponential run of this disease of this infection rather through a crowd of people that you love and care for.

* And I guess what I’m just directly asking is on behalf of all these folks is, will there be repercussions if there is a blatant defiance and other counties of your stay at home order?…

Nobody’s gonna, you know, run in and break up a gathering of churchgoers at that moment. But I will tell you that there are consequences of course. The state has the ability to enforce orders. But we’ve been looking to people to do the right thing and they should do the right thing. And I think the parishioners, by the way, ought to do the right thing and ask those who are faith leaders either not to hold those services or simply ask that they have something online that they can connect to rather than the potential for being infected.

* This is from Amy Jacobson, who writes verbatim smart public policy is not doing only what scientists say you as the governor have the power to convene Illinois lawmakers some who are not pleased with a 30 day extension. Don’t you think other voices from around the state representing their constituents need to be heard as well. Does the legislative branch have any role to play in this crisis or does the executive branch have total control?…

Well if Amy had read the executive order she would see that the legislature has the ability to meet. It is an essential organization under the executive order. I know that it’s very difficult and I’ve said this multiple times to get 177 members of the legislature plus their staffs together somewhere. And, you know, that doesn’t mean it can’t be done. It just means it’s extraordinarily difficult especially with all the processes of ledger, but this is something the legislators themselves will have to work out.

* Every newsroom is still getting dozens of complaints and from concerned people who are having trouble in a lot of cases simply getting online to certify we’re hitting roadblock after roadblock on the phone system. Any specific progress you can report in terms of overcoming those obstacles and any specific online updates that you can give us your online capacity has improved measurably?…

There’s no doubt the system’s started out unprepared for this unprecedented level of filings. But at this point, I must say, the ability to connect online is available to everyone. If they’re having trouble for some reason if they’ve filed earlier, forgotten their password, unable to get a password retrieval or something like that they may need to call in, we’ve expanded the number of people who are available to take those calls. There’s no doubt there are also people who no longer qualify for unemployment because either they filed a fraudulent form earlier, or there are some channel you know challenges to the veracity of certain aspects of the forms that they filed. And so, there, there are a lot of reasons why somebody might not be able to get through. But I will say that the systems themselves are actually operating reasonably well given that what we started with was a 10 year old system that’s been, as I said yesterday, one that you’ve had to, sort of, you know, build the plane while you’re trying to fly it with a lot more passengers than usual, so to speak.

* If I recall correctly you previously stated, you can only add so many call takers for unemployment claims because of federal training requirements, etc. Why not redirect and train other types of state employees like, you know, Department of Motor Vehicle workers, etc. to help process Unemployment Claims while they can’t do their regular jobs right now that’s something that you can do and should do [There is no such department in Illinois]…

It could have been done but it would have had to start a while ago because the training that someone gets to work at the Secretary of State’s office is very different than the training that it takes under federal guidelines to work at an IDES offers to take an unemployment claim. We’ve moved people, there are many more people answering phones today than there were when this whole process started. There’s no doubt about it we continue to try to build on that with IDs employees but I will say that that department has over many years, not been funded particularly well the systems haven’t been upgraded so it sort of started out in this difficult situation there aren’t a lot of resources people to draw upon, but we’ve drawn upon everyone that we can within the department to bring them all to the frontlines to answer these. It’s very difficult I must say, many of them are working overtime weekends and so on, to get done what they need to. And I will say that we’ve processed, many many claims I think you may know I talked about it a little bit ago that, you know, more than 800,000 claims have been processed already which is a ginormous number it’s you know it’s a significant multiple of any time before even back in the Great Recession. So, we’re actually at a decent point and IDs getting claims processed and people that are having have had extraordinary difficulty. Now should be able to get through their virtual unemployment call center, if you will, now that I’ve been running where staffers can work from home, it’s still in the works is when we have IDs employees working at home. But, and we have a, an offshoot for people who have questions that aren’t of a nature that require that federal training. That is a separate calling call center effort that we’ve been setting up

* Indianapolis and Marion County’s folks in Indiana announced that even though the stay at home order in Indiana has not been extended so in other words it lifts tomorrow. Marion County has announced it will not lift its own stay at home order until May 15. Could there be similar protocols in Illinois?…

So there are other orders that exist in Indiana and other states, and it is true that a county, or even a local government can have more stringent rules than the state has imposed. And that is what’s going on in Indiana and in some other states. And I know that there are places like, you’re in the city of Chicago, where there are some more stringent rules that we set out from the state imposed upon the city of Chicago, I mean that the city is imposed upon itself.

* Regarding the Indiana stay at home order. So with tomorrow being may 1 as of right now some businesses are planning to reopen in Indiana for example some shopping malls some that might not be far from Illinois border. What do you tell Illinois residents itching to get out of the house drive across the state to enjoy some shopping or something else that is open there that is not here?…

What we’ve told people and you know you’ve seen pictures of parties like in the city of Chicago happening where people are doing things that they shouldn’t be doing and that we know are dangerous for them. And I would just say that people need to use the common sense that they that Mother Nature, God gave them to not gather in those places to wear masks to keep six foot distancing to not participate in the activities that will put themselves and very importantly, their families when they come back from those places in danger.

* Do you still believe all of these officials who disagree with you are simply grandstanding or will you consider allowing local authorities to modify your new stay at home order, making it less restrictive not more locally? Do they know what’s best for their local areas or do you believe you do?…

Well, let’s start with it when he says, all of these local officials there are a few, and we’ve talked about them before, what we’ve tried to do is to follow the science, and I would encourage those who are thinking about breaking the rules to follow the science to, again, what we know is that people put themselves at risk when they don’t wear masks, when they gather in large groups. We know that people who are, who were going from place to place, and who are asymptomatic and not following any of the social distancing are putting other people at risk. And we know that in Illinois, we’ve seen the number of infections that come from one person who’s infected go down over time right, how many people get infected from the one infected person has gone down significantly over time. That’s not an accident. It doesn’t happen by nature that it went down, it went down because people stayed at home. It’s because people are following those social distancing rules. And so I would just suggest to to anyone that is considering breaking those rules that they’re really putting their citizenry in danger.

And I would just point out also to to those in Rockford, since he’s from WROK, unfortunately Rockford is a hotspot in the state, Winnebago county has quite a number of infections, and it’s something that we’re watching very closely. And it’s why people who live in that area and in the surrounding counties,need to be extraordinarily careful.

* Can you comment on the five republican congressman who sent a letter to you asking for regional reopening and you have I believe had a conversation with them as well and can you characterize that?…

I did actually we had a terrific conversation, it was the entire congressional delegation. I heard from I think three of the five congressmen who spoke up and had questions of, three of the five republican congressmen.

And it was a good dialogue and I don’t disagree with them that different areas of the state require different rules during this time. And that’s why we made some changes you see in this new executive order that goes into effect tomorrow. The state parks are not in, you know Cook County and Chicago right. The idea that people can get elective surgeries is much more available in areas outside of the collar counties and Cook County, because more infections exist, just by not the numbers in this area. And so, elective surgeries state parks golf courses and so on many of the things that we’ve opened up, just in this executive order that only is in effect for a month there is an indication indeed that of my recognition and our recognition that it’s different from one area to another, and we’ll be talking more about that as we put forward plans for reopening.

* A protest today called on you to lift the 1997 rent control preemption act and allow individual jurisdiction to deal with the rent issue. What is your stance on this and lifting that ban?…

As you know, this is a state law that’s in effect that the legislature can make a change to. And I know that many people have come to Springfield to talk about doing that. I’m, you know, for me, I want to make sure that people can pay their rent and that they’re not being pushed out from gentrification from their communities. So I would like to see changes made, but it is something a legislature needs to do.

* New York’s governor and the city’s mayor announced they’ll shut down mass transit overnight for deep cleaning. Any plans and talking to various mayors and cities to do that here?…

I would say that that’s something that the Mayor of the City of Chicago certainly should lead. We want to make sure that people are safe taking mass transit and figuring out what the right schedule for cleaning is I know they’re doing some of that now, I don’t know on what schedule and I would encourage them to look at that because as we open things up more and more people are going to take mass transit, buses, trains, etc. They need to know that when they’re taking it they’re safe.

* Response to the dropping rates of positivity and COVID tests that has happened in the last week?…

Dr. Ezike: So again, if, when we initiate we’ve gone through many evolutions of the testing criteria. If we go way back to January, February the testing criteria involved, having a contact with somebody from Wu Han, and having no specific symptoms, as we have relaxed the criteria. Obviously we are still attacking and say attacking we’re still targeting our high risk individuals people who are on the front lines if you will work in a grocery store or a pharmacy. But we potentially as we increase the number of tests you will potentially have people who have not had as high contact as maybe someone who’s working in the ICU 12 hours a day with COVID positive patients so you might see some decrease in the positivity rate but it is really important that we identify people as quickly as possible so we will have that lower positivity rate but be grateful for the ones that we identify.

* The CDC is reportedly saying there are far more deaths in Illinois than reported how many could there be? [He answered this question yesterday.]…

Dr. Ezike: These are kind of speculations that we try to use our data and make the most informed decisions. We did the way to try to get at that number is to look at the number of deaths that we’ve had in this period and then try to compare the amount of deaths that we had in the same time in previous years and have looked at that. We do see that compared to 2018 and 2019, the deaths that we’ve had from the period of March to April 15 are significantly higher for this 2020 time. And so when we take out the number of deaths that are actually responsible that we know are COVID related. We still have additional deaths that we can account for so one supposition could be that there are additional deaths that we have missed. But again, we don’t have the details on all of the deaths in real time like that takes several months so again we can make speculations that there are additional deaths

* When does the state plan to start widespread testing of workers and essential businesses, especially retail establishments and factories? Factory outbreaks could disrupt supply chains and retail outbreaks could threaten lots of workers and customers…

As fast as possible.

I guess I’ll expand and just say that you know today as you saw that you know we were reported about 13,200 tests were done, we’re averaging about 13 or 14,000 for the last week which is up significantly almost double, perhaps the week before. And we can continue to do that. But we have 6 million workers in the state of Illinois. And although we wouldn’t be able to test every worker every day, you do want to have the ability not only to surveillance test but also to target your testing to the most vulnerable communities, and people who work in those vulnerable settings.

* Has Illinois use the federal airbridge to bring back PPE from China? Why and for what, how are the goods that come on the airbridge sold, is it based on pre existing pre pandemic contracts and pricing and option or some other means?…

So it’s my understanding this is how the [program] works. It is not intended to bring goods to the state of Illinois, or to the city of Chicago. That’s not how the [program] works. How it works is, it was designed by the White House to, and we say air bridge it’s cargo planes, and what they’re bringing over are the PPE that are going to be that are handed over to distributors, existing distributors of medical supplies who have an existing set of customers, some of whom are in Illinois, some of whom are not in Illinois. So those goods get distributed by those private businesses as they see fit. Also some of the airbridge capacity is bringing over PPE that’s going to the federal stockpile and the needs of the federal government, our military for example. So that just, you know, I want to clarify for everybody. The airbridge really does not supply that state or local governments.

* According to the IDOC Governor Pritzker has commuted the sentence of 20 inmates, of those 28 are murder or involuntary manslaughter, of those 26 of those are serving life sentences and of that [garbled] had years left on their sentence. The governor has said in the past, most of the people being released they would have three to 12 months left, but the IDOC documentation says differently with some having several years. Can you explain why there is a discrepancy and with such violent criminals being released, how do you ensure public safety when commuting sentences. Has the governor himself reviewed the recommendation from the PRB or does he sign off on recommendations without reviewing the file?…

So I want to make clear to everybody that there are a lot of people who are released from prison because their sentences came to an end. Then there are people who are in the final six or nine months of a term in a sentence, and the, we’ve had the Department of Corrections director looking at only non violent offenders and and seeing if there are opportunities at this moment to release people early on good time, so that we can allow people who are non violent offenders to have a slightly shorter sentence but for the purpose of making sure that we’re keeping the staff at corrections and the prisoners themselves safe.

So that’s most of what we’re talking about when we talk about releases from our prisons. The few that the questioner is asking about are people who petition for clemency directly to the governor, they do that through the PRB, the Prisoner Review Board. That’s a board that reviews these cases and votes on them and makes recommendations, and even provides information because they have hearings and discuss those cases. And then they are recommended to me from them. And then I make a decision based upon those recommendations. Those members of the PRB are very responsible people, many of them have been on there for several years before I became governor. Their recommendations do have an enormous influence on me and very important to me is to make sure that anybody that we are releasing you know fits a set of criteria that minimize any risk to communities.

* Governor, the President is ending federal social distancing policies, leaving it up to the states. And conservatives here are fighting you on the stay at home order. How are you pivoting to adjust to all of that to the challenges?…

How am I pivoting to adjust to the challenges of it? Yeah. Look, we’re staying the course here of making sure that we’re keeping an eye on the health and safety of every Illinoisan wherever they live, whether they live in, you know, far southern Illinois and Cairo, [garbled] live in Freeport, or Rockford, and everywhere in between.

And guess what, just because they don’t live in Chicago or Cook County or the collar counties, does not mean that people are not in danger. And that’s why I’ve been very careful looking at the numbers all across the state but region by region, to make sure that as we look at reopening we’re extraordinarily focused on the details of each region. I’ve listened to many many mayors, many have written plans for their region that they wanted me to see. And we’re taking all of that into account as we talk to our epidemiologists and scientists to look at a phased in plan.

Reminder to everybody that it was actually the White House that put out at least the first plan that I had seen that looks at when and how could you reopen the nation’s economy. And, again, a reminder that plan, put together by the President, under his leadership and Vice President Pence, it says is that an area has to reach a peak, and then have 14 days of reduced numbers, hospitalizations, etc. And then you can begin with phase one, phase two, phase three under that plan. We’re following a lot of that guidance as we put our own plan for Illinois together.

* Can you clarify in what situations people will have to wear face coverings while outdoors. Beginning tomorrow, should people have one on hand if they go out for a walk or a jog or a bike ride around the neighborhood?…

I would suggest having one on hand. Again, it could be a T shirt that’s made into a face covering it doesn’t have to be a specific surgical mask or other kind of mask, but something that covers your nose and mouth. You don’t have to wear it at all times if you’re going running, jogging outside or bicycling. But if you encounter a crowd, a public space with a lot of people in it, that’s when you need to are required to put on a face covering. And of course, going to a grocery store or a pharmacy where you’re going to run into other people, we’re requiring face coverings in those circumstances.

* If there’s a detected outbreak in a food manufacturing factory does IDPH suggest testing for all employees? When is a shutdown recommended? And is the state tracking outbreaks at essential food manufacturers? What are you seeing?…

Dr. Ezike: Yes we are tracking all outbreaks throughout the state, including and we’ve had outbreaks at every type of facility, in meat processing plants, it’s daycares, it’s churches. We’ve seen them in every single type of setting. So we obviously start with the local health departments are the boots on the ground they are the first line of support for these facilities that are in their locale. We are always ready to assist in certain instances we have pulled in the CDC or NIOSH specifically that deals specifically as an arm of the CDC that deals with occupational safety of workers and so being able to identify different strategies that need to be employed to help keep the worker safe and also how to temper such outbreak so that goes on on a regular basis with any of the outbreaks that are identified.



  1. - Bruce( no not him) - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 2:55 pm:

    “To the vast, vast majority of you who believe in the power of being all in for your communities, thank you.”
    And to the rest of you (expletive deleted)

  2. - Jibba - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 3:04 pm:

    “To the vast, vast majority of you who believe in the power of being all in for your communities, thank you”

    This used to include everyone, but for some reason many conservatives seem to have left the building on this.

    BTW, Lena is not in western Illinois.

  3. - Give Me A Break - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 3:08 pm:

    How about the Gov just pull every drop of dollars out of any county the sheriff is openly defying the EO. Close every state operated office and facility, pull all state funds from their schools and roads. If they don’t like Illinois rules or following a needed EO, let them figure how to live without Illinois tax dollars.

  4. - phenom_Anon - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 3:13 pm:

    There is a noticeable change in tone. The Governor is talking more about how the May 1 EO is a loosening of some restrictions, as a success thanks to the people who have been following the guidelines. Initially, his tone seemed much more focused on how far there is to go, remaining dangers, etc.
    This current tone is how he should have been framing it from the announcements. This tone gives people a lot more hope, despite being the exact EO that it was when announced. To me, this is how you try to stop the lawsuits from being filed. Too bad it’s a little too late.

  5. - SSL - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 3:15 pm:

    Given the overwhelming public support for the stay at home order, it is the church goers who will enforce the order. The reporters, are trying to get JB to make a bold statement on enforcement. He’s done well not to go there.

  6. - Jose Abreu's Next Homer - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 3:16 pm:

    That’s not going to happen Give Me A Break and you know that.

  7. - Give Me A Break - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 3:19 pm:

    Well Jose, it probably won’t but these wanna be tough guys locals need to get knocked down a peg.

  8. - Precinct Captain - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 3:19 pm:

    Re: IDES

    The federal requirements for fraud prevention measures and such in unemployment are also not being waived, potentially slowing down the ability to get benefits out even if people make an innocent mistake on their applications

  9. - OutHereInTheMiddle - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 3:24 pm:

    Give Me A Break - that may be a bit to “Trumpian” for JB. At least I hope so.

    I fear that vast numbers of us no longer understand the concept of the “public good”. If all we can do is think in terms of “us” vs “them” we face a dismal future.

  10. - Donnie Elgin - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 3:25 pm:

    “because the training that someone gets to work at the Secretary of State’s office is very different than the training that it takes under federal guidelines to work at an IDES offers”

    This is very true - look at the glitches with automatic voter registration

  11. - Tynie - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 3:30 pm:

    Give Me a Break, after reading your comment, I decided to check the Illinois Constitution to see if I could find a way for your idea to hold up.
    As I understand the Revenue Section, that answer’s no. I’m not a lawyer, but I can see several filing suits if Governor Pritzker tries your idea. BTW, my source:
    BTW, my source:

  12. - Give Me A Break - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 3:42 pm:

    Well there goes my idea. At some point the issue is going to have to be resolved as to when local gvt is allowed to do whatever they want when they don’t like what state gvt is doing.

  13. - Blue Dog Dem - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:02 pm:

    Very disappointed that noone followed up on JBs punt of the looming property tax crisis that will begin to take place very soon. Letting the locals handle it isnt going to work. Take this to the bank(or the tax collector), there are going to be tens of thousands of delinquencies on the property tax side of things. Are we going to have that many tax sales? Are we going to pile on those who can pay(next years taxes,I know). Are we going to slash budgets of the taxing entities?

  14. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:04 pm:

    ===JBs punt===

    Please explain what authority a governor has in this?

  15. - Norseman - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:06 pm:

    I continue to be impressed with how JB is responding. Not perfect but that is a high bar for an elected official to attain.

    Of course we’ll have the trolls and hyper partisans continue to complain about anything he does.

    A well done for JB and all those involved in the governmental and public response to this pandemic. A COVIDIOT award for the trolls and politicians playing games with the lives of Illinoisans.

  16. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:08 pm:

    === At some point the issue is going to have to be resolved as to when local gvt is allowed to do whatever they want when they don’t like what state gvt is doing===

    All local governments were created by the state. Power flows down from the state. It’s basic federalism. Did you sleep through college?

  17. - Norseman - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:12 pm:

    Amazing, troll complains that governor is abusing his power to save lives. Then troll complains that governor is not giving property tax relief which clearly is an abuse of his power.

  18. - Give Me A Break - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:13 pm:

    Did I sleep through college? Not sure it was the last 70s and early 80s, don’t remember much. So my bad. LOL

  19. - Southfarmllama - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:14 pm:

    Can we stop with these paragraph long post titles. I mean, come on.

  20. - ajjacksson - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:23 pm:

    I’ll say it for you Rich…

    If you don’t like the “paragraph long titles,” go start your own blog.

  21. - TheInvisibleMan - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:26 pm:

    I’d like to suggest reps Bailey and Cabello chose the Simon and Garfunkel song “My Town” as their campaign songs in their next election.

    Specifically, the refrain.

  22. - Tynie - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:33 pm:

    I actually like Rich’s post title format. He may be surprised by this, but I found it makes reading posts on the and interacting with y’all on the full site easier to do on my phone.

  23. - Blue Dog Dem - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:34 pm:

    Rich. Glad you asked. You know how the property tax system works, so no need to rehash. Plans better be being talked about on a state level or local govt and school districts will be forced to hold the tax auctions. Do we really want that? Do we want to make an already bad situation worse? The state has more bonding power than most (certainly not all). JB needs to plan now.

  24. - Tynie - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:35 pm:

    The only bad part about using my phone this way is, it’s prone to random glitches. (Some happened when I typed my last two comments.

  25. - Senator Blutarsky - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:35 pm:

    To be fair Rich, I don’t think the question is quite as simple as “basic federalism.” I haven’t read the case law on the relevant Constitutional provisions or the public health statute, but on a cursory reading it seems that the police power to regulate public health for home rule units comes from Article VII, sec. 6(a) of the IL Constitution, which means it doesn’t come from the state but rather the people. Nonetheless, the same section goes on to allow the general assembly to circumscribe that power by law. 20 ILCS 3305/3(d) I believe does just that.

  26. - just the numbers - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:56 pm:

    …compared to other numbers…

    2563 new positive cases, out of 13,200 tested in the last 24 hrs.
    19.42% positive.
    7 day moving avg, 16.59%, down from a high of 22.85% on 4/17.
    13th day of downward trend.

    2355 total deaths, out of 52,918 total cases
    4.45% rate.*
    7 day moving avg, 4.43%, down from a high of 4.46% on 4/26.
    slight move downward.*

    52,918 total cases, out of 269,867 total tested.
    19.62% positive.
    7 day moving avg, 20.43%, down from a high of 21.26% on 4/23.
    slowly declining.

    “Absolute numbers” which are read at the daily press conferences, do not have much meaning unless they are compared to another number.
    I’m not sure why IDPH doesn’t provide “relative numbers.”
    Their daily approach contains ZERO analysis of trends which is counter-intuitive to the situation, the science, and professional expectations.

    *when antibody testing/serum testing is more prevalent, this rate will drop significantly if worldwide numbers hold true in Illinois.

  27. - hisgirlfriday - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:57 pm:

    Went to the grocery store today and I’d estimate about 80% of customers were already wearing masks.

    Unfortunately an elderly lady fell ill in the middle of the store, hit her head, and had to be treated by paramedics while I was there. Not sure if it was a COVID-related thing, she overheated from walking while wearing a mask, or it was something else, but it was pretty scary and a definite reminder to me that I really do not want to go anywhere right now unless I have to.

    So glad the stay-at-home order was extended.

  28. - 40000 ft - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 4:57 pm:

    “JBs punt”

    There is an argument that the State could pick up the school levy on our property tax bills.

    It would be a 70% reduction on my property tax bill.

    Maybe the feds could print some payola for that….

  29. - Flaodoodle - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 5:49 pm:

    All local governments were created by the state. Power flows down from the state. It’s basic federalism. Did you sleep through college?

    Sadly, one could be wide awake all through college and still not have any contact with the basic principles and structures of this republic.

  30. - Flapdoodle - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 5:50 pm:

    5:49 was me and my fat fingers

  31. - Responsa - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 6:00 pm:

    There is a county 100 miles or so from Chicago that thankfully has just over 30 lab confirmed cases and no Covid deaths. If anyone seriously thinks it’s only a few right wing nutters who want the IL home confinement and mask wearing requirement to be pulled back they should probably go speak to the residents of those communities who have no idea how to find any logic that considering their situation they should be treated like Chicago and the collar counties.

  32. - Anonymous - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 6:44 pm:

    =There is a county 100 miles or so from Chicago that thankfully has just over 30 lab confirmed cases and no Covid deaths. =

    They gotta fence around that county so nobody gets in or out? The virus traveled here from China, I think it can negotiate 100 miles or so. Consider the number of deaths in early February and how many we have today. Is there something that makes this county “special” that it won’t happen there?

  33. - Lynn S. - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 6:45 pm:

    @ Blue Dog Dem,

    You’ve been hanging out here for a while; kinda surprised at your questions today.

    If you don’t pay your property taxes, there’s a penalty period, where you pay more.

    If you fail to pay off during the penalty period, the county board issues a resolution, and the county treasurer has an auction.

    This auction has an interesting quirk: the person who wins the right to collect the overdue taxes on your property is the person who is willing to accept the lowest amount of interest on the obligation.

    The buyer has a process they have to follow, and if you don’t pay the overdue property taxes, eventually the buyer gets to petition a local judge for the title to your property.

    At no point during the unpaid taxes process does the local school district hold an auction for those unpaid property taxes. The school district is paid off when the property tax purchaser gives their check to the treasurer, at the end of auction day.

  34. - Lynn S. - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 6:49 pm:

    Responsa, would you be willing to give us the population of the county you’re talking about?

    I’d like to calculate the per capita rate there.

  35. - Give Us Barabbas - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 7:03 pm:

    JB has to play this smart. You learn on the kindergarten playground, you never make a threat you are not willing and able to back up. The people testing and taunting his EO are hoping to goad him into doing something un-smart that feeds the right wing conservative propaganda machine with images of law enforcement beating down and arresting “helpless”. civilians. This is why he’s pushed the carrot and not the stick. The stick part is going to happen out of sight of cameras. It will come in the form of a mailed notice of closing or license forfeiture. JB is a keen diplomat, and diplomacy has not yet been exhausted.

  36. - Fighter of Foo - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 7:26 pm:

    Give Us- I don’t think the majority of people are goading. They are just fed up. The EO are just recommendations at this point for many. Agree or not, people are out more and more. This isn’t going to last much longer.

  37. - Tynie - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 7:38 pm:

    Blue Dog, I don’t know how your county’s handling property taxes. Earlier this month, mine came up with a plan, I’m citing straight from a news article that explained it. (I’ll also provide the source)

    Tax bills will still go out around May 1st, but the split payment option lets residents slash their payment in half.

    In the agenda, the plan reads “divide the 1st installment into 2 separate equal payments under which 50% of the installment shall not become delinquent until 60 days after the first installment due date.”

    During the Peoria County Board’s virtual meeting Thursday, members explained the first payment is due June 9th. For those choosing to pay half, the remainder of the payment is due August 10th.

    The final, regular property tax payment is due September 9th. Those who make the payments after those dates will incur a late fee, but it will still be reduced.


    So, if you aren’t in my county’s jurisdiction, you may want to contact your county’s tax office to find out if they have options because of this pandemic.

  38. - Responsa - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 7:47 pm:

    Here’s another one for consideration:

    DeKalb County pop. 104,897–confirmed cases 76- covid deaths 1.

  39. - Pundent - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 8:01 pm:

    =Here’s another one for consideration:=

    We only have to go back a couple of months when the number was 0 in Chicago and Cook County. The argument is ridiculous which is why medical professionals aren’t advancing it.

  40. - Blue Dog Dem - Friday, May 1, 20 @ 3:35 am:

    Lynn and Tynie. I quite understand the process. Maybe didn’t word it right. There will be thousands who just cant pay their taxes. Despite the interest rate or payment terms. This is not going to end well. I know it seems foreign to those whose only inconvenience has been to supposedly shelter in place. Take a look at the strip malls in your community. Do you think all those mom and pop shops are paying their rent. Escrowing their peopert taxes?

  41. - Pundent - Friday, May 1, 20 @ 7:09 am:

    =I quite understand the process. Maybe didn’t word it right.=

    It was your typical rant driven by who the messenger was without regard for the message. Of course property tax payers are struggling nobody disputes that. Tell them to hang in there because Washington says the virus will disappear by Memorial Day. I’m sure you’re fully behind that message.

  42. - Blue Dog Dem - Friday, May 1, 20 @ 8:56 am:

    Washington telling us to’hang in there’ is akin to JB telling us the locals will figure out how to handle the pending property tax debacle.

  43. - Pundent - Friday, May 1, 20 @ 9:13 am:

    =Washington telling us to’hang in there’ is akin to JB telling us the locals will figure out how to handle the pending property tax debacle.=

    We don’t have a property tax debacle, we have a virus debacle. And it starts with Washington being completely unable to get its act together. Saying on the one hand that we have plenty of tests (CEO’s disagree) and then blaming our lack of COVID-19 tests on a President who left office three years before the virus even occurred. Of course none of these facts fit your partisan narrative so you create a tortured argument around JB not doing enough about property taxes.

    Are you saying that the President’s ability to assist is just as limited as Pritzker’s? Wow, you really have gone off the deep end.

    Pritzker gets up in front of us everyday and delivers the sober reality of the situation we’re in and what we’re doing as a state to get out of it. Our President pouts that he’s not being appreciated while he’s continually called out on his lies and complete lack of accountability. He has cowardly turned his back on the country and there is no equivalence. Your “both sides” argument is nothing more than cover for incompetence.

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