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Tuesday, Aug 4, 2020

* I posted this story earlier, but I’m moving it here because it’s more relevant to our discussion

Governor JB Pritzker says the COVID-19 outbreak is now worse in southern Illinois than it is in Chicago.

Gov. Pritzker made the statement during a stop Tuesday at SIU Carbondale. He was joined by SIU System President Dan Mahoney, Carbondale Mayor Mike Henry, and Jackson County Health Department Administrator Bart Hagston.

“I’m here today because the COVID-19 pandemic, which once seemed tame in Carbondale and throughout the entire region, is surging here. It’s worse than in Chicago. And I’ll be frank, if we don’t see some change here, the virus will cause some businesses to close and an increasing percentage of people to get sick and some will even die,” said Gov. Pritzker.

Jackson County is one of eleven counties listed at the “warning level” for COVID-19 by the Illinois Department of Public Health (IDPH). Seven of the eleven counties are in southern Illinois.

“Southern Illinois and Metro East are both seeing troubling trends, with seven-day rolling positivity rates of 7.4% and 7.3%, respectively. These are the highest in the state of Illinois,” added Pritzker.

* Rep. Terri Bryant (R-Murphysboro) on Facebook today

Governor Pritzker is scheduled to be at SIUC today. You will not see me there. I called his staff yesterday to ask if I missed my invitation. I was told I’m not invited.

She goes on to ask several questions that have been asked and answered before, except maybe for this one…

Is there a long-standing relationship between Deloitte and the Pritzker Group?

Um.

* I reached out to the Pritzker administration’s Jordan Abudayyeh to ask why Bryant wasn’t invited to an event in her district…

The representative was not invited to attend a press conference discussing the state’s COVID-19 response because she has not been supportive of the administration’s COVID efforts and has not voted to support the necessary funding needed to continue combating the virus.

Abudayyeh pointed to a couple of Facebook posts by Bryant, including this odd one in June

How many of you are going out of state to eat, shop, play…? Time for Governor Pritzker to get real and does anyone know how IDPH got so powerful? Why is Dr. Ezike calling all the shots? Is she more knowledgeable than the scientists in 49 other states? Just some thoughts going through my mind today.

* The Question: Foul or fair to exclude Bryant? Take the poll and then explain your answer in comments, please…


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- Posted by Rich Miller        

84 Comments
  1. - 47th Ward - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:00 pm:

    I think it’s completely fair, but also kind of dumb and petty. Now we’ll spend the rest of the commenting day discussing Bryant’s words, Pritzker’s responses and nothing more about surging COVID in Southern Illinois.

    Shut up and wear the (deleted) mask y’all.


  2. - thoughts matter - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:01 pm:

    Foul. This seems like the kind of thing Trump does to those who don’t agree with him. I expect better from our Governor. She’s ( rightly or wrongly) stating her opinion and that of her district.


  3. - Froganon - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:04 pm:

    No platform for any official who can’t promote safe practices. Get on board with combating this virus or get out of the way.


  4. - Norseman - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:06 pm:

    I wish I could have said foul, but the GOP has made no effort to responsibly deal with this crisis. Why have someone join you when she has no desire to work towards a solution.


  5. - Shytown - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:06 pm:

    100% fair. Not even a question given her past comments.


  6. - Pius - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:08 pm:

    For a talk on covid 19, talkers who walk the talk are welcome. Talkers who don’t can just stay home or come on there own to listen.


  7. - Former Candidate on the Ballot - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:09 pm:

    Voted Foul. Since the Governor is presenting himself on official business at SIUC, I support all elected officials from the area being welcomed, independent of party affiliation. If this were a campaign stop - totally fair


  8. - DownSouth - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:10 pm:

    I voted fair - with a couple of caveats; in theory, I think any legislator who has Jackson County and Carbondale in their district should have been invited. That said, I have also watched Bryant’s actions throughout this and she seems to be more about finger pointing, claiming victimization, poor me..the Gov always ignores me… Her approach needs a little refinement if she wants to regularly engage with the Governor. It’s worth noting that Rep. Dave Severin who is also a Republican was there sooo it’s not a partisanship thing.
    Bottom line, Bryant has been about as helpful Bailey throughout all of this so yeah I don’t mind that she was invited.
    She’s running uncontested so why not make this period about doing the work that needs done in her district and future district instead of just stirring up her base?
    Cue another lawsuit from DeVore because Bryant was excluded.


  9. - OOO - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:10 pm:

    How many times has this Governor indicated that the pandemic response is not about politics? Practice what you preach, man.


  10. - Tommydanger - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:11 pm:

    Foul. Its hard to be the adult sometimes when others are acting like children. A perceived slight against the area’s representative may be taken more generally as a slight against the people of the district.
    When you have the facts,science and the overwhelming weight of medical experts on your side, you should welcome the opportunity to expose the half wits whenever they appear.


  11. - Lester Holt’s Mustache - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:11 pm:

    Fair. Based on analysis of several years worth of Facebook data, our research concludes that for the health and safety of Illinois’ citizens, Rep. Bryant should never be invited to anything, ever, for any reason.


  12. - 1st Ward - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:11 pm:

    Voted fair but it would be good for Pritzker to call the rep to see how things are going in her district and what the state can do to help.

    Given the statements Terri made it would seem odd as to why she would want to stand side-by-side next to Pritzker at an event. Seems like grandstanding


  13. - Former Downstater - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:13 pm:

    Fair. It’s generally not a good idea inviting someone to participate in your event who disagrees with you 100%.


  14. - Phenomynous - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:13 pm:

    Foul (and petty). Gov’s office is probably still sore about how she took them to task on the IDES security breach…which they also bungled, if we are being honest.


  15. - Anyone Remember - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:16 pm:

    Fair. Bryant’s posts make it self evident.


  16. - Pool Boy - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:17 pm:

    Never a smart move for a Governor to exclude the local legislator(s) when you go to their districts, especially downstate. You have to be nimble enough to deal with opposing views and you never know when you may need that legislator on the next issue.


  17. - Collinsville Kevin - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:20 pm:

    Fair. She’s a dingbat.


  18. - loknar - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:22 pm:

    Foul. Childish and petty. Like most of the federal democrat leadership.


  19. - A Guy - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:22 pm:

    Foul.
    But not surprising. It really says something more about him that he doesn’t have confidence in himself or his standing as Governor to try and have some influence with her. She’s not some radical nut who’s unpredictable. She’s generally a very respectful and courteous person who is able to disagree amicably. He blew and opportunity here.


  20. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:28 pm:

    === She’s not some radical nut who’s unpredictable. She’s generally a very respectful and courteous person who is able to disagree amicably.===

    Then Bryant should be ok with not being invited.

    She was “Red”

    Which is my answer. It’s Fair. Wholly fair.

    You are rewarded with press pops when you vote for things.

    If Pritzker is so worried he doesn’t measure up, Bryant should like she was not invited.

    It’s not punching down, if Bryant voted for it… but…


  21. - twowaystreet - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:30 pm:

    Fair, it would be different if it was bill signing or infrastructure project he was announcing in her district that got bipartisan support. Bryant has the same ability to hold a press conference urging her constituents to take the rising cases seriously and do more to slow the spread.

    Our last Governor enjoyed holding public bill signings and excluding the lead sponsors, who’s districts the bill signing were being held, from the other party. That’s where I see foul play.


  22. - Powdered Whig - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:34 pm:

    Totally fair - you can’t have your cake and eat it too.


  23. - OurMagician - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:35 pm:

    Foul-should have invited her and then filled the district with pictures of her and the Governor as “JB’s Favorite Republican”.


  24. - Elliott Ness - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:36 pm:

    Neither fair nor foul but very childish of the Governor not to contact and invite the elected state rep from the region….not surprising he is being this petty but it is NOT how to carry the office, two words- GROW UP


  25. - Oldtimer - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:39 pm:

    Fair but no whining in the future about partisanship in Springfield.


  26. - Powdered Whig - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:39 pm:

    === This seems like the kind of thing Trump does to those who don’t agree with him. ===

    No - Trump would take steps to intentionally withhold funding or other resources from areas represented by those that disagree with him. Pritzker didn’t invite a local rep to participate at a press conference about battling the COVID-19 pandemic. Big difference.

    Why should the representative get any credit or press coverage relating to battling the COVID-19 pandemic when she has been part of the problem.

    “Time for Governor Pritzker to get real?” Seems like its time for Rep. Bryant to get real.


  27. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:40 pm:

    ===not surprising he is being this petty but it is NOT how to carry the office===

    It’s truly, and only, petty if Bryant was “Green” and was snubbed.

    That’s petty.


  28. - Captain Obvious - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:41 pm:

    Petty, perhaps childish, not surprising from Jay Bob, but fair given it’s his gig he can invite or not invite anyone he pleases. While not a campaign event it was a political one, as they all are. It might have been fun for the rep to turn up anyway. All’s fair in politics after all.


  29. - Pundent - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:49 pm:

    Foul and petty. Pritzker is the governor of the entire state, not just those that agree with him. There’s no need to allow Bryant to be a victim here as she likely wouldn’t have attended anyway. Prtizker should offer reps of both parties the opportunity to prove they’re on-board in addressing the worst health crisis of our lifetime. If they refuse to participate or act responsibly it’s then on them.


  30. - High Socks - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:52 pm:

    Totally Fair and it would be if the party’s were reversed. This isn’t some minor or unrelated policy disagreement. He is there to urge people to do something she has called for resisting. She’s not entitled to a piece of the stage.


  31. - Don't Bloc Me In - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:53 pm:

    I voted foul. The respectful thing to do is pick up the phone and have at least a brief discussion with her, as one elected official to another. Offer her the chance to be there. I’m sure she would have declined the offer. She would lose any chance to complain.


  32. - illinifan - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 1:55 pm:

    voted foul. Whenever a Governor is in the area local politicians should at least be notified.


  33. - SOIL M - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:18 pm:

    I voted Fair. It’s all about Politics in an election year. In that light, all’s fair in love and war. Politics is war.


  34. - Upon Further Review - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:18 pm:

    The respectful thing to do is to contact the local Legislator when the Governor is in the area.

    At least the current Governor hasn’t taken to “freezing” the salaries of Legislators who disagree with him. Both Governor Quinn and Governor Rauner shamefully went that direction in a manner that in my humble opinion should come with jail time. Shaking down another branch of government is never ok, ever.


  35. - Upon Further Review - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:19 pm:

    Quinn and Rauner actually went well beyond “freezing salaries of Legislators”. They didn’t pay them at all for months.


  36. - zatoichi - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:22 pm:

    Voted foul. Invite all the local reps/sens, talk about working together for a serious statewide/regional problem, say they were all invited even if they disagree, then make note of who actually came to solve the problem. No shows made a choice.


  37. - Foul! - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:22 pm:

    But it’s Illinois politics, so whatever.

    Diplomacy died a long time ago.


  38. - Back to the Future - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:27 pm:

    Voted Foul. Silly and rude abuse of power.
    This was not a campaign event. Those local taxpayers paid his travel, the protection he received from local and state law enforcement folks and the press folks on the state payroll.


  39. - Jibba - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:28 pm:

    Absolutely fair. JB would be tarred with whatever nonsense she would spout at the podium.

    This is not all about politics but saving lives. She is not helping. Why give her a megaphone?


  40. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:29 pm:

    === abuse of power.===

    If you truly believe that, you are clueless to the meaning of the phrase.

    Snowflakes, it’s like a blizzard in August.


  41. - Elliott Ness - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:35 pm:

    Nope, OW, it is petty…if you don’t understand that you likely don’t understand petty and are often petty your own self. Stop calling people clueless, that is childish and petty as well


  42. - SOIL M - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:37 pm:

    One more thing to consider; what was the capacity where the event was held? In Cairo, where he should be anytime now, the building can only accommodate 12, with social distancing, more on the lawn outside. Will be interstimg to see if Rep. Windhorst and Sen. Fowler make the cut there.


  43. - Free Market - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:44 pm:

    Not one of you know Terri Bryant personally. She gives an expletive deleted about her district and all of Southern IL.


  44. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:44 pm:

    === it is petty===

    She voted Red

    What, you want the governor to invite her to lambaste her as a Covidiot voting against health?

    What, think Pritzker trusts Bryant to say good things she voted against?

    Huh? What?

    How ignorant would Bryant be smoking about something she was against?

    I’m still shocked Bryant feels comfortable being at SIUC after repeatedly, for a whole General Assembly voted against full funding of higher ed.

    Bryant’s career, it seems, is voting against herself, her constituents, her district, and wants others to do the real hard work for her.

    Anyone can vote Red against themselves. Why reward Bryant?


  45. - Flapdoodle - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:45 pm:

    Oh dearie me, dearie me . . . . Bryant rattles around spouting nonsense about the pandemic and other things, then gets her knickers in a twist when she’s not invited to be with the big kids. Then all the anti-JB crowd here starts moaning about exclusion and not showing unity and so on. Sheesh. You play for the minority team, you don’t get to sit on the majority bench. You want to be taken seriously, act like it.


  46. - Last Bull Moose - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:46 pm:

    Voted foul only because there might be some value in inviting her.


  47. - West Sider - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 2:46 pm:

    After 2016,no Republican is ever entitled to complain that a Democrat is “petty”. Do I wish it otherwise- of course- but you nominated and elected Trump.


  48. - Cubs in '16 - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 3:02 pm:

    Fair. I don’t particularly care for Jordan’s response to your question. A better reply would’ve been Bryant wasn’t invited because her lack of support for COVID safety protocols puts her at greater risk of contracting and spreading the virus. Her omission was out of an abundance of caution for the other attendees.


  49. - WH Mess - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 3:06 pm:

    Fair. The goal of the trip is to help save lives and the economy. She’s shown no ability to support that message, so why undermine the Governor’s bully pulpit?


  50. - Southern Belle - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 3:07 pm:

    Rep. Severin looks to have been invited. He and Bryant stay pretty close on voting and issues. Interesting that the male legislator was invited, but not the female. Just say’in.


  51. - Nick Name - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 3:07 pm:

    ===does anyone know how IDPH got so powerful?===

    LOLOL[banned punctuation] If only[banned punctuation]


  52. - Elliott Ness - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 3:08 pm:

    Bryant voted for the income tax that saved SIU and others I higher ed Willie. She doesn’t support Pritzker’s recent proposals, is against the progressive tax and thinks the General Assembly should get more involved and the governor does NOT have some of the power he is using and claims to have Which courts are now determine. I think the gov just lost one to the sheriff’s recently? Snubbing a Representative is just plain childish - Bryant is not Bailey, Halbrook or the other covidiots, give her some credit for being the thoughtful and courageous Rep she is. Nope, she doesn’t always agree with the Governor, called out his obvious errors with the IDES issues but she is the type of GOP he needs to call and listen to. Ya got this wrong Willie - course you are always quick to defend the Governor or Speaker so no surprises here


  53. - Cubs in '16 - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 3:13 pm:

    ===Interesting that the male legislator was invited, but not the female.===

    Riiiight. JB didn’t invite her because he’s sexist.


  54. - DownSouth - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 3:18 pm:

    ===Not one of you know Terri Bryant personally. ===
    ahhh but I do.


  55. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 3:30 pm:

    (Sigh) where o where to begin, lol

    ===Bryant voted for the income tax that saved SIU===

    Then as an utter phony, and purposely hurting SIU, Bryant took it upon herself for a whole General Assembly to hurt SIU to save it?

    That’s either ignorance or incompetence to task.

    “I’m not hurting you now. You’re welcome”

    === Which courts are now determine. I think the gov just lost one to the sheriff’s recently?===

    One? So it’s cool to be fit Covidiot thinking if one sheriff wins a court case? She voted Red, what, she’s going to say good things now? If so… ignorance or incompetence, you choose.

    === Bryant is not Bailey, Halbrook or the other covidiots, give her some credit===

    Ah. So it’s the “who” not the “what”? That’s telling. They all voted Red, let’s say for argument voted the same, you think Bryant deserves a break “because”? That’s not an argument, that’s a preference of people. Votes are votes.

    === type of GOP he needs to call and listen to===

    The Deloitte Facebook screed says otherwise. Bryant is as others are with division.

    ===Ya got this wrong Willie===

    Nah. You’re argument is “Bryant isn’t Bailey, even if the vote the same, and write silly things on Facebook, and votes like Bailey too on this issue” - Not great.

    ===course you are always quick to defend the Governor===

    Nursing home COVID, railed on him and the response, IDES, yeah, said that’s been a disaster yet fixed, and the contract tracing, gave zero quarter there… but you either know it and ignore it, or need a person for your victimhood.

    ===or Speaker===

    Yeah, said he should resign, way before Durkin, and Brady has yet to go that far. I’m a real apologist.

    ===so no surprises here===

    Your lazy defense of a Raunerite hoping to change the past, nah, I’ve read it before.

    :)


  56. - Joe Bidenopolous - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 3:38 pm:

    It’s fair. No Governor should have to tout a local pol who disagrees with the Governor’s message of the day and that will give that opposition a platform. I don’t even think it’s petty. She’s a danger to society.


  57. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 3:39 pm:

    I’m torn on this one. I think it was certainly fair given her comments and lack of support during this crisis. But, this seems a bit too Trump-esque to me which brings me down on the side of mostly foul. I don’t want the Governor to bring himself down to the petty behavior of Donald Trump and this comes awfully close.


  58. - Blue Dog Dem - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 3:40 pm:

    The governor is simply playing politics. Rauner and he have quite a few similarities.


  59. - Frank talks - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 3:47 pm:

    Fair- probably should have invited her anyway, she wouldn’t have shown. Just gave her a talking point by not inviting.

    If she did show, put her right up front and have her rail about fake science blah blah blah. Be another 5 mail pieces about how Southern Illinois/Trump Country is leading the new brand of Illinois GOP. Those sound bytes would be great in the suburban districts Durkin is trying to protect. Let them all talk Gov, give them platforms to rail on and on about fake science, God given non-mask wearing rights. Southern Illinois Trump Republicans will be a gift that keeps on giving if you just let them.


  60. - tomhail - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 4:11 pm:

    Foul. She should be invited. Please, JB, don’t get all Trumpian on us.


  61. - Little Bit South of 64 - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 4:17 pm:

    Fair. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

    Rep. Bryant has been unhelpful at best during the coronavirus pandemic. She’s spent the last 3+ months (and really since Gov. Pritzker took office) pointing out perceived problems, but offering no solutions.

    I liked Terri when she first ran for office and voted multiple times for her re-election, but for the last two years she’s done nothing but help make southern Illinois irrelevant to Springfield. She and other So. Ill. Republicans (looking at you Schimpf, Severin, and Windhorst) have done but nothing dig their heels into the ground and grandstand against the governor and his policies. The result? The policies are approved by the Democratic majority and put into place with or without their support. The lasting result the way I see it? The collective clout of southern Illinois will continue to diminish. Future governors and legislative leaders will take the opinion of people south of 64 less and less into consideration…because they’re just going to complain anyway.


  62. - Say It - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 4:20 pm:

    Willie - you are always pretty quick to defend Leader Durkin and he voted “no” on the budget that Bryant voted yes on during the Rauner stand off.

    At least be consistent. If Bryant pays forever in Willie World, then Durkin must be deemed the ultimate sinner, as he led the charge to facilitate Rauner’s behavior on the Minority side. But the again, you like Durkin. Who is the phony?


  63. - bogey golfer - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 4:26 pm:

    She is the elected rep of that district. She should have been extended an invitation.


  64. - Motambe - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 4:27 pm:

    Fair. It may be customary to invite the legislators for the district the governor visits, but not mandatory. It’s an option. That said, given Pritzker‘s remarks that this is not about politics, he and his staff missed an opportunity to rise above politics, be inclusive and unifying, and maybe be more influential and statesmanlike.


  65. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 4:27 pm:

    === you are always pretty quick to defend Leader Durkin and he voted “no” on the budget that Bryant voted yes on during the Rauner stand off.===

    Really? As a leader in his spots, yep.

    I don’t think anyone would call me a cheerleader of the Raunerites then, and now as the folks like Bryant want everyone to “forget”, Leader Durkin is showing up at Black Lives Matter marches and yelling at a certain member to wear a mask during session. Keep up.

    === pays forever===

    Bryant can admit at any time she was wrong hurting SIU, or decide that divisive regional party talk is wrong, or we can discuss the confederate flag and Bryant too… which I keep leaving out on purpose, but if you want to keep pushing let’s revisit that with Bryant too.

    “ pays forever”… for the love of Pete, Bryant votes her own switch, doesn’t she?

    === But the again, you like Durkin===

    I’m tellin’ ya… we can go all in, including the Confederate Flag.

    Your call.


  66. - Club J - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 4:29 pm:

    I say it’s fair. Governor Pritzker owes her nothing and why have someone who disagrees with your handling of a pandemic. Has come out and questioned your #1 person at the IDPH authority. Making statements that put people in danger and using the Governor’s authority as the punchline.

    Let her sit out and pout about it. I’m sure she’ll take to social media and cry to Bailey and maybe it’s a new DeVore lawsuit.


  67. - Say It - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 4:33 pm:

    Her performance then was substantially better than Durkin’s as evidenced by her taking the vote that he would not. Those are the undeniable facts.

    The rest is your rationalization for being inconsistent. I just did push all in Willie as I have the receipts and you are holding nothing.


  68. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 4:39 pm:

    === Those are the undeniable facts.===

    Bryant purposely and consistently voted to hurt higher education.

    Because you let go of your hostage doesn’t make you a hero, she didn’t stand up until a whole General Assembly passed.

    ===The rest is your rationalization===

    Anyone who…

    ===Rep. Bryant lectured them about why the Confederate flag should be acceptable based on “heritage.”===

    … to…

    === There were actually three senior level administration officials in the meeting. Two of them are African American.===

    Are you rationalizing someone who thinks the confederate flag means “heritage”?

    Good luck with that.


  69. - 4 percent - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 4:40 pm:

    Foul. Invite her - you don’t have to let her speak, and take away the issue.


  70. - thechampaignlife - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 4:48 pm:

    Fair…but unproductive. You need to build relationships and understanding, which does not happen through exclusion. Have a meal together (distanced) to dialog and build mutual respect. It may not gain you support on a particular issue, but it discourages them from using attack ads when they know and respect you as a person.


  71. - the Patriot - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 4:58 pm:

    Foul, he is selling it as a press conference. It is a staged campaign event where anyone opposed is excluded. Hey, he can exclude whoever he wants, but don’t call it a press conference when you are holding tight control over the guest list.

    The guy stood for a protest 2 months ago, still refuses to go to Springfield to meet with legislators, respond to FOIA, or have open press conferences. He is manipulating the media.


  72. - the Patriot - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 5:02 pm:

    Really tired of the its bad in SO IL narrative. Disclose the numbers on homes/facilities that are state regulated that JB failed to get any protocols in place for vs other cases. Several of these counties have almost no cases not traceable to homes under his supervision.


  73. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 5:05 pm:

    === Hey, he can exclude whoever he wants===

    Then how can it be anywhere near “foul”, lol


  74. - ArchPundit - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 5:21 pm:

    Foul, though a small one. I think governing press conferences/public events should always invite local electeds. I think exceptions can be reasonable, but a couple Facebook posts isn’t it to me.


  75. - Say It - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 5:52 pm:

    Called your repeated bluff Willie. A gentleman simply just leaves the table.

    But you already know that . . . . . . .


  76. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 5:57 pm:

    === Called your repeated bluff===

    What bluff?

    You think that it’s fine to support flying the confederate flag as heritage as Bryant does is calling a bluff?

    She voted to hurt higher ed, her district, and sees the confederate flag is fine is a better record than Durkin?

    That’s an odd thing to think


  77. - Say It - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 6:46 pm:

    My entire commentary was about your duplicitous behavior in terms of two Legislators that took opposite approaches to the Rauner era budget stalemate.

    Your inference in relation to the Confederate flag was never part of the discussion. YOU brought that up. If that is her stance, it is absurd.

    Your position on Durkin vs. any of the yes votes in the context of that era Is indefensible vs. your perpetual criticism of Norine Hammond and others.

    Grow up you petulant child.


  78. - RDB - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 6:58 pm:

    If she was supportive of the facts of the virus, then I would question why. Otherwise I think her exclusion is justified.


  79. - Elliott Ness - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 7:23 pm:

    Say it- you nailed it, OW is a phony baloney Madigan-Pritzker plant. He also just like to argue, often with himself


  80. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 7:39 pm:

    === My entire commentary was about your duplicitous behavior in terms of two Legislators that took opposite approaches to the Rauner era budget stalemate.===

    And?

    Bryant, who sold out her district and SIU to be beholden to Rauner, who also thinking that the confederate flag is heritage, it’s easy to see Durkin trying to make this a party that isn’t regional, angry and white, while Bryant is more than willing to vote Red and expect to be at things she voted against.

    That’s what petulant children do.

    === Your inference in relation to the Confederate flag was never part of the discussion===

    It’s who she is.

    You wanted contrast between Bryant and Durkin… well, let’s start there.

    === If that is her stance, it is absurd.===

    So… you can see why it’s different than Durkin?

    And I’m a petulant child, you are misinformed. Hmm.

    === Your position on Durkin vs. any of the yes votes in the context of that era Is indefensible vs. your perpetual criticism of Norine Hammond and others.===

    Lemming still vote Raunerite ways, Durkin continues to deal with those who vote consistently with the Eastern Bloc or Hateful Eight. That’s not heloing the GOP

    If you think Bryant’s position on the confederate flag is both absurd and unacceptable, why are you calling me petulant.

    If anything you should be thanking me you learned something.

    - Elliott Ness -

    Yikes, man. I’m a Republican. Keep up.


  81. - Elliott Ness - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 8:13 pm:

    OW, you are a fraud, keep up


  82. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 8:28 pm:

    - Elliott Ness -

    “Bless your heart”

    :)


  83. - The Old Man - Tuesday, Aug 4, 20 @ 9:51 pm:

    JB like many liberals wants to hear diverse views only when they agree with his views. In southern Illinois, JB is Bryant’s chief vote getter, keep it up JB and keep boosting Terri”s crowd appeal.


  84. - Candy Dogood - Wednesday, Aug 5, 20 @ 12:11 am:

    I’m really late to the party on this, but fair.

    I’ll also note that it was a very mature choice to leave it unstated until Representative Bryant decided to make issue of it — that’s not necessarily a communications choice I would make so I’ll tip my hat to someone being more mature than I might have been in their place.

    There are also literally dozens of Representatives that have been more of a friend to SIU and SIUC that Representative Bryant has been.


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