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Friday, Oct 30, 2020

* Your closing argument for/against your favorite/most hated state/local candidate or ballot issue?

…Adding… As an example, Illinois Chamber CEO Todd Maisch says Illinois already has a fair income tax…

- Posted by Rich Miller        

32 Comments
  1. - AnnoymousFool - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 2:33 pm:

    For ballot issue, the ads against the progressive tax are just lame, whiny, and frankly could be construed as lying. Every time I see one on the internet, I press skip ad as fast as I can. Thus, just out of spite, vote yes on the progressive tax.


  2. - Chicago Cynic - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 2:37 pm:

    We have to pay our bills so taxes are going up regardless of whether you vote for or against the Fair Tax. Unless you make more than $260,000, you’ll pay a lot less with the Fair Tax than without. So vote yes and make the billionaires and millionaires and rich lobbyists pay their fair share.


  3. - Unconventionalwisdom - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 2:37 pm:

    Equally- for both the pro and anti graduated tax amendment ads.


  4. - Go Big - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 2:40 pm:

    The incessant Rodney Davis vs. Betsy Londrigan commercials would have one think that both belong in jail. Make it end . . . .


  5. - Go Big - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 2:42 pm:

    Confusion generally equals “no” votes on referendum questions.

    True or not, the anti-Fair Tax crowd has sewn significant confusion . . . . .it goes down to defeat.


  6. - Responsa - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 2:44 pm:

    Retire Dick Durbin since he won’t do it himself. He has stayed too long at the fair.


  7. - Grandson of Man - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 2:46 pm:

    Because of COVID (and the president’s willful negligence in managing it), Illinois and other states are starving for revenue. The poorest, sickest, most vulnerable, students, schools, vendors, state employees and so many others are facing harsh cuts. A tiny group of Illinois’ richest people are fighting to not pay a penny more in taxes, while continuing to pass their share of the burden to everyone else. It’s time to give the vast majority of Illinoisans a tax cut and tax the wealthiest more. Vote yes for the Fair Tax.


  8. - Steve Rogers - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 2:47 pm:

    If you vote no on the progressive tax, taxes will go up for 100% of Illinoisans.

    If you vote yes on the progressive tax, taxes will go down for 97% of Illinoisans.


  9. - The Magnificent Purple Walnut - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 2:54 pm:

    For and against Supreme Court Justice Kilbride. Om morning till night and we don’t live in his region.


  10. - Ostriches - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:03 pm:

    Rep. Tom Morrison argued for leniency for a child abuser, and he knew exactly what he was doing when he did it. shame on him.

    If we re-elect him, shame on us.


  11. - RNUG - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:13 pm:

    == Retire Dick Durbin since he won’t do it himself. He has stayed too long at the fair. ==

    I agree.

    Not only has Durbin overstayed his “expiration” date, he spends more time looking out for the national party interests than he does looking out for the State of Illinois’ interests.


  12. - Amalia - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:23 pm:

    Vote for the Fair Tax. Because that white haired guy on the anti commercial who says “that’s crap” is so irritating.


  13. - City Zen - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:24 pm:

    The people that want to change our tax structure don’t understand taxes.


  14. - Ron Burgundy - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:25 pm:

    For the fair tax — Have the politicians ever asked for your opinion on whether your taxes should be raised before? No? If this passes, they may not raise your taxes. If this doesn’t, they will. Choose accordingly.


  15. - SOIL M - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:27 pm:

    The Progressive tax gets down to trust. Do you trust, a Progressive-Elitist Billionaire, who has evaded paying his Fair Share of taxes, and passed that on to others, has donated over 50 million of his own money so that he and his family can pay more in taxes and you pay less?
    Do you trust, a Progressive Politician, who’s law firm has made millions helping the Elite and Powerful to pay less while others are made to pay more, who has been named in Corruption Investigations, who says he wants people like those who his firm has represented to pay more in taxes?
    Are they trust worthy?


  16. - Lucky Pierre - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:30 pm:

    Biggest problem with the fair tax is no one is stupid enough to buy that 97% will get a tax cut.

    Where is the other 4 billion dollars to balance the budget supposed to come from?


  17. - Just Me 2 - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:35 pm:

    Vote No - The Democrats are incapable of even trying to cut costs. They always look at tax increases as the solution to budget problems. Force them to make the difficult decisions that should have been made ten years ago like other states did. Until COVID California had a budget surplus this year! Why are we still in a deficit every year?


  18. - Rich Miller - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:37 pm:

    ===Until COVID California had a budget surplus this year===

    Because they have a graduated income tax? lol


  19. - Really - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:38 pm:

    Fair Tax ads - 97% percent do not get tax cuts. 97% just do not get tax hikes. And how much are they saving? A few bucks? Can’t trust Springfield to do the right thing with any monies they raise and I don’t trust them not to raise my taxes next year. Voting no as is everyone I speak with. Vote no.


  20. - Quzzical - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:40 pm:

    Ken Griffin spent $60 million opposing the fair tax, which means the billionaire class can clearly afford to pay more.


  21. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:41 pm:

    7 minutes to explain it’s not about “saving millionaries”

    Even SNL tries to keep their comedy sketches under 5 minutes.

    Maisch is another who let Rauner and Raunerism tarnish his reputation with truth.

    To the QOTD,

    Jim Oberweis, let his racist thoughts melt away.

    Jeanne Ives, let her walk out of our lives.

    The Fair Tax, saving the wealthy 3% will hurt you.


  22. - Da Big Bad Wolf - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:47 pm:

    ===he spends more time looking out for the national party interests than he does looking out for the State of Illinois’ interests.===

    Except for the time he sponsored the Computer and Internet Access Equity Act to help low income households get get internet and phone service, and the Emergency Educational Connections Act to provide 4 billion for schools and libraries to support internet-enabled devices,
    And voted for the Cares act, and USMCA and the First Step Act.
    And many appointments and appropriations.
    You can check out votesmart.org to see stuff he did for Illinois. I’m not sure what golden unicorn you’re looking for that qualifies.


  23. - JoanP - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 3:50 pm:

    = I don’t trust them not to raise my taxes next year.+

    You think they won’t be raised if we still have a flat rate income tax?


  24. - Really - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 4:00 pm:

    Joan P - I hope we get to find out. Not sure they have the stomach to raise taxes on their public employee union supporters.


  25. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 4:05 pm:

    ===public employee union supporters.===

    How angry and sad is it that you’re only concern is a mouth-breathing “hope” to stick it to “public employee union supporters”, when it hurts everyone else too. Pathetic even.

    I feel sorry for you, in a pandemic, so many people hurting, you can’t not be an IPI/Wirepoints mark.


  26. - 1st Ward - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 4:14 pm:

    Willie Wilson gets more votes than Curran and Durbin wins with under 50 percent.


  27. - Louis G Atsaves - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 4:15 pm:

    The legislature raised a whole boatload of taxes on us during Pritzker’s first year in office. After all that sticker shock they then tell us the Fair Tax referendum passage means 97% of us will either not pay higher taxes or get a tax cut. That later morphed to 97% will get a tax cut. All movement that without changing a word in the referendum. Now I’m seeing ads that state this may result in the State being able to meet their school funding obligations at last, and that our property taxes may be reduced. Promises, promises.

    Do you trust them? Great line by the anti group.

    The most irritating ad is labeling Rep. Ugaste a child molester lover whose vote against unfunded mandates may flood our schools with pedophiles. With all those pedophiles running wild in our schools, will there be room for the poor students in the buildings or will they be crowded out? Sickest ad I’ve ever seen in politics.


  28. - Last Bull Moose - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 4:18 pm:

    My most despised candidate was a Jeannie Ives. She supported Rauner’s efforts to damage the state. Then she turned on him on the abortion issue. On that issue he was right.

    I always think that she lists Jefferson Davis as one of America’s best presidents. Ugh.

    Hoping she loses so badly she goes away.


  29. - lake county democrat - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 4:23 pm:

    As Rich alludes to above (taking some justifiable (IMHO) liberties):

    Pro-Fair Tax: California was in as big of mess as we are in now. They got out of it with the fair tax. Let’s do the same.


  30. - Pundent - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 4:27 pm:

    We’re all going to die eventually - Mark Curran. Let’s hope we can apply that statement to his political career on Tuesday.


  31. - PublicServant - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 4:28 pm:

    === Why are we still in a deficit every year? ===

    Because we’ve had a structural budget deficit for the last three or so decades. When people are asked what they world cut when they advocate cutting services, we get nothing but silence or ludicrous IPI Koch Bros BS. The Fair Tax is the first step in correcting that deficit, without screwing the little guy who the rich are feverishly trying to hide behind as they have done for the last three or so decades…see the connection there? If not, I can’t help you understand, but if you want to continue to be a citizen of the great state of Illinois, you’ll need to pay your fair share and if not, well, see ya. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. We’ll be fine without you.


  32. - PublicServant - Friday, Oct 30, 20 @ 4:29 pm:

    === We’re all going to die eventually - Mark Curran. Let’s hope we can apply that statement to his political career on Tuesday. ===

    This ^^^


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