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Bailey alleges another Irvin debate setup

Wednesday, May 25, 2022 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Tribune

The split forums occurred even though candidates typically resolve differences over televised debates. But in this case the dueling debates occurred when Bailey, Rabine and Sullivan agreed to appear at WGN, which made its invitation before NBC. Irvin accepted the later NBC offer but Bailey, Rabine and Sullivan kept their commitment to WGN.

But Irvin said Wednesday he would appear at a June 2 League of Women Voters on ABC-Ch. 7. Bailey’s campaign said the downstate senator had a conflict for that date and urged the station to select a new date.

* Politico

Irvin agreed to attend a June 2 League of Women Voters forum on ABC 7, the same day Bailey already committed to a Northwest Suburban GOP Lincoln Day Dinner. Coincidence?

Info on that dinner is here.

* From a Richard Irvin campaign press release…

Unsurprisingly, JB Pritzker’s candidate for governor — tax hiker Darren Bailey — attended the children’s debate with military imposter Jesse Sullivan, to avoid a side-by-side comparison to Irvin’s conservative record of accomplishment.

* Sen. Darren Bailey campaign statement…

What else do you expect from the failed establishment backing a basement Democrat, but downright lies. Irvin knows that our campaign and other campaigns committed to the Northwest Suburban Lincoln Day Dinner over 3 weeks ago and paid to help sponsor and speak on this date. He knows because he declined. The ABC date was presented to us as a tentative date. We have reached out to ABC and would love for them to move the date so we can further expose Irvin for the corrupt, lying mini-Mike Madigan he is. Darren Bailey is the true conservative to take on Pritzker and win in November and we proved that last night during the main card debate.

* Roundup…

* Debate showdown: Illinois GOP candidates for governor split up during competing debates: Meanwhile, Bailey said Critical Race Theory and sexual education for young children have no place in Illinois schools. Bailey noted that he stood up against both while serving in Springfield and he would fire the state superintendent of schools if elected as governor. “They have failed our children egregiously. CRT was written into the rules. CRT can be written out of the rules,” Bailey said. “Government needs to be pulled out of our schools. Get the unfunded mandates out of the way and let local school boards and parents come together and decide how they want to educate their children in their schools.” Although, the Illinois State Board of Education and countless lawmakers have confirmed Illinois is not teaching Critical Race Theory.

* Illinois’ Republican gubernatorial candidates face off in debates: “You’ve got to stop by addressing it it head on- what I call the “3 Cs”, children, cops, community. Focus on getting kids in a more positive program and off the streets, because kids are the ones committing most of the crimes,” candidate Richard Irvin said. “We need mentorship and fatherhood programs that we need to be funding in the way Ron Desantis did down in Florida. What I see constantly on the crime side is a lack of enforcement of our laws and our lack of enforcement of police,” Jesse Sullivan added. Many said Illinois’ recent police and criminal justice reform are part of the problem. “We have to have a restore authority to police. It’s proven that crime is curbed with more active police force. And crime is out of control in the state of Illinois,” Darren Bailey said Tuesday night.

* GOP gubernatorial debates: Irvin more elusive than lesser known rivals Schimpf and Solomon: During a rapid-fire “yes or no,” segment, Max Solomon and Paul Schimpf agreed that the events at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021 were not an “insurrection.” But Richard Irvin touted his credentials as a lawyer and said, “I don’t think it’s a ‘yes or no’ question.” … Ahern tried again, “So if you vote for a Republican, why did you vote for Trump?” “As I said, as I drive around the state,” Irvin continued, prompting Ahern to interject, “I guess you didn’t.”

* Illinois GOP governor candidates address gun violence and crime in competing debates following Texas mass shooting: State Sen. Darren Bailey of downstate Xenia called Chicago “a crime-ridden, corrupt, dysfunctional hellhole” when asked about gun violence. “Let’s just call it what it is,” said Bailey, who once co-sponsored legislation to split Chicago from the rest of the state. “And no one knows that better than the friends and the people that live in Chicago. Something’s wrong. City leaders, they hate the police.”

* Three GOP Candidates Vying for Illinois Governor Weigh in on Gun Control: Mayor Irvin: “I can’t imagine, as a father, what those parents are going through today, as they have to mourn the these young lives that that hadn’t lived yet. And I couldn’t help but to think when I sat at my office on that cold day, in February, when I my Chief of Staff walked in and said there had been a mass shooting in the city of Aurora where five workers had been killed. And five police officers shot many of the police officers shot very seriously. And remember going to the funerals and seeing the pain on the parents face at the loss of their adult children. And I can’t imagine, after seeing that pain of those parents, what the pain of the of these children, these little kids must feel this horrific act of violence. We need a governor who’s going to stand up and fight against these acts. We need a governor who’s going to stand strong, and make sure that not only we heal after this, these events that seem to be happening so much throughout our country day in and day out, where we’re comparing one violent act to another, we have to make sure that we support our police and, and we support our neighbors and our families and our friends and these these school children that we don’t allow, we don’t allow weapons to get into the hands of criminals and those with mental illnesses. And as governor, I will take a strong stance to ensure that we do what’s necessary to protect ourselves. We’ve got to do what we need to do to bring our community together to show that we’re not going to allow senseless acts of violence to define who we are as Americans. Our Illinois.”

* Republican candidates for Illinois governor face off in 2 forums, attacks focus on Richard Irvin: “People in Illinois right now are ready for somebody that is not beholden to insiders, somebody that does not have a billionaire benefactor,” Schimpf said. … “The fact is we’ve got to address crime head on,” Irvin said. “You don’t simply address it by coming up with kneejerk rules; let’s have a curfew, that’s not gonna stop crime.”

* GOP gubernatorial debate: Bailey, Sullivan, Rabine rip Chicago in WGN debate: “Electing Richard Irvin into this seat would be no different than allowing Mike Madigan to serve as governor,” Bailey said. “Richard Irvin is a mini Mike Madigan.” Rabine said he wasn’t surprised Irvin declined. “I think this is tough, for a person that’s a Democrat, to actually be debating in a Republican atmosphere,” Rabine said, referring to questions over Irvin’s past voting record. Sullivan hammered Irvin for past statements supporting the Black Lives Matter movement. “He was someone who stood proudly and strongly for Black Lives Matter. That’s trying to disintegrate the family unit in our state. I hold the exact opposite views,” Sullivan said, quickly following up by saying he supports “the principle of Black Lives Matter, of course,” but not the political organization.

       

30 Comments
  1. - fs - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:23 am:

    == other campaigns committed to the Northwest Suburban Lincoln Day Dinner==

    Are the other campaigns going to be at the debate, or at the dinner?


  2. - well... - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:30 am:

    What an absurd excuse.

    Bailey has a running mate. Send her to the Lincoln Day Dinner. Problem solved.


  3. - Arsenal - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:31 am:

    They just all look like clowns. JB Pritzker loves all this debate drama.


  4. - Ron Burgundy - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:34 am:

    -State Sen. Darren Bailey of downstate Xenia called Chicago “a crime-ridden, corrupt, dysfunctional hellhole”-

    That’s a bold strategy, Cotton. I’m reminded of the quotes from Animal House to the effect of, they can’t do that to our pledges, only we can do that to our pledges.

    In other words, Chicago has its problems, but it also has most of the voters. Chicagoans can debate its problems and be critical of its government, but who is this Southern Illinois small town farmer coming up here on a Chicago TV station and talking smack about it? Let’s not even pretend that he has a clue about how to run a big city or improve the issues it faces.

    Yes, getting past the primary is the immediate battle, but good luck with that statement after July if you get there.


  5. - former cubs fan - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:35 am:

    the irvin response on guns = lots of words, but no substance. i have not idea what he would do as governor to protect our kids from gun violence. while bailey is a circus side show, irvin is a snake oil salesman, light on specifics, and heavy on flim flam.


  6. - Real - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:39 am:

    Irvin deserves to lose the primary in a landslide rejection of Griffin and Raunerism.


  7. - PublicServant - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:39 am:

    Irvin re the shooting in Tx: “I will take a strong stance to ensure that we do what’s necessary to protect ourselves.”

    Strangely absent…again…would be an actual detailing of how. But, at least he’s consistent.


  8. - Real - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:41 am:

    Bailey has a running mate. Send her to the Lincoln Day Dinner. Problem solved.

    Looks like Bailey is requesting for ABC to move the date so that Irvin has no excuse. Keep up.


  9. - TheInvisibleMan - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:42 am:

    For whatever reason, Bailey seems intent on portraying himself as a victim every chance he can get.

    He’s letting himself be defined by outside circumstances.

    I’m sure the ‘poor me’ routine works wonders in his circles, but on a statewide stage I almost feel embarrassed for him now.


  10. - Bruce( no not him) - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:44 am:

    === attended the children’s debate===
    says the mature candidate.
    Next comes the “nana booboo I’m better than you”


  11. - Alice Childress - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:44 am:

    Irvin’s campaign slogan: Fake It Till You Make It.

    I’m floored by his deflections and I think he believes it’s working.


  12. - Pot calling kettle - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:44 am:

    Has Irvin ever provided a straightforward, clear answer to any question? He should get some sort of award for his ability to produce word salads.


  13. - JS Mill - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:46 am:

    =“Government needs to be pulled out of our schools. Get the unfunded mandates out of the way and let local school boards and parents come together and decide how they want to educate their children in their schools.” =

    More dishonest pandering. If the “parents” want to be involved in curriculum and instruction they can volunteer for the district committee (almost all districts have one) or run for school board. We include parents in many of our committees but it is like pulling teeth to get volunteers. But the idea that they have some expertise in curriculum and instruction is an absolute farce unless they are in education or have some coursework. even our parents who get wound up by the false narratives pushed by the radical right don’t volunteer.

    We are professional educators.


  14. - Jocko - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:47 am:

    ==CRT was written into the rules.==

    Bailey is like a cover band playing the GOP hits from Glenn Youngkin, Ron DeSantis, and Greg Abbott.


  15. - Ron Burgundy - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:58 am:

    -We are professional educators.-

    Right. And unfortunately some of the most involved and vocal parents are also the loudest, the least stable, and the least educated. Some of them have no business setting the curriculum.


  16. - Streator Curmudgeon - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 11:02 am:

    ==the corrupt, lying mini-Mike Madigan he is.==

    Occasionally a gem sneaks in.


  17. - Norseman - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 11:07 am:

    I feel for educators like JS Mill. The torch bearing, book banning, CRT hating “parents” are generally the last people to spend time actually helping with their kids’ education.


  18. - Roadrager - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 11:17 am:

    ==I feel for educators like JS Mill. The torch bearing, book banning, CRT hating “parents” are generally the last people to spend time actually helping with their kids’ education.==

    Those same parents would also like teachers to be strapped in the classroom as the last/only line of defense for their children against someone spontaneously exercising their 2nd Amendment rights.


  19. - MisterJayEm - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 11:34 am:

    “kids are the ones committing most of the crimes”

    This is a lie.

    – MrJM


  20. - JS Mill - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 11:36 am:

    @ Norseman and Roadrager- Spot on. Thanks.


  21. - JS Mill - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 12:02 pm:

    = “Government needs to be pulled out of our schools.=

    Bailey didn’t say that. I was watching. He said something about “skuules” whatever those are.


  22. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 12:09 pm:

    Another hat tip to - JS Mill -, and I’ll let - Norseman - speak to it for me too.

    To the post,

    At a month out with “undecided” leading a 6-person field, and many a time candidates looking for “outs” instead of… “exposure”…

    Sometimes being exposed is the greater fear than believing what you can do or say will be the biggest strength.

    The biggest loser is the GOP voter, when those Trumpkin Cultist voter needing so much anger in their life justified.


  23. - Demoralized - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 12:36 pm:

    ==We are professional educators.==

    With respect, you are playing right into the hands of people who are complaining about schools not caring what the parents think. That statement portrays arrogance and screams “we know better than you do.” Don’t give these people that kind of ammunition. I would stick with the point you made about welcoming parents input via those committees or whatever other mechanism exists.


  24. - Huh? - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 12:36 pm:

    Irvin re the shooting in Tx: “I will take a strong stance to ensure that we do what’s necessary to protect ourselves.”

    Like loosen regulations for purchasing firearms, and concealed carry so any semi-upright and breathing individual can buy any gun they wish?

    Like that is working real well in texas.


  25. - Demoralized - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 12:43 pm:

    Anybody else catch Jesse Sullivan saying he’s going to cut $10 billion from the budget? Would love to see what a budget that cuts 20% to 25% out looks like.


  26. - Pundent - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 1:37 pm:

    =Would love to see what a budget that cuts 20% to 25% out looks like.=

    Jesse Sullivan is not a serious candidate. But when you have no chance of winning you can say pretty much anything.


  27. - Ron Burgundy - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 1:47 pm:

    -That statement portrays arrogance and screams “we know better than you do.”-

    In many (most?) cases, however, they do know better. Education and training better qualifies someone to educate all our children than the biological happenstance of having one or more yourself.


  28. - MoralMinority - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 1:51 pm:

    ==We have to have a restore authority to police.==Right, Darren. How about a Red Flag law to give the police authority to keep guns out of the hands of people who have demonstrated a tendency for violent or unhinged behavior? No? I guess you are all for getting tough on bad guys unless it involves their God-given Second Amendment rights.


  29. - Elliott Ness - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 3:57 pm:

    Darren Bailey is a goof, a “Lincoln Day dinner” is his excuse? really, often there are two or three of those a night in the 102 counties…send someone and if it is a big LD dinner send your Lt. Gov but to compare a LD Dinner to a GOP a debate tells us much about the poor judgement of a person who wants to run the State. He couldn’t run a lemonade stand let alone the State of Illinois.


  30. - G'Kar - Wednesday, May 25, 22 @ 10:08 pm:

    I’m a little late, but “hear, hear” to J.S. Mills. As a retired community college prof and some time administrator, he is right on


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