* Center Square…
Illinois State Police say they took enforcement action against a business for openly advertising the sale of newly banned weapons, but no additional information was provided.
In a YouTube video Friday, gun-rights advocate Todd Vandermyde revealed he’d been told that the state is taking actions to enforce the state’s ban on certain semiautomatic guns and magazines.
“It appears that there was a gun shop that was selling stuff, post the enactment,” Vandermyde said after sharing an anonymous tip that state police confiscated weapons from an individual.
Monday, a spokesperson for Illinois State Police confirmed in a statement to The Center Square that ISP took enforcement action earlier this month against a business for “openly advertising the sale of banned weapons.” The statement said the investigation is ongoing and additional information wasn’t immediately available.
- thisjustinagain - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 9:22 am:
To quote Anchorman “Well, that escalated quickly”.
Guns Save Lives website wrote a few days ago ISP didn’t even have admin rules written for parts of the law yet. Guess the details will come out in court.
- Baloneymous - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 9:25 am:
Good on ISP. Back the blue, am I right, Todd?
- Perrid - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 9:32 am:
I’m confused I guess, I know a lot of court cases have been filed about the ban, has no court issued a TRO yet? I guess I just assumed there had been one.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 9:34 am:
===has no court issued a TRO yet?===
One, and it only applied to the plaintiffs.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 9:36 am:
===ISP didn’t even have admin rules written for parts===
There’s a flat-out ban on the sale of specified weapons, etc. No need for rules for that behavior.
- Manchester - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 9:39 am:
Thank you IL State Police.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 9:40 am:
“Flaunting” the idea that this place can dictate law or policy…
It is the law. Right now, it’s law.
Social media never-ever helps in bringing together… extremists.
If/when any TRO of a large scale exists, then it will be different.
No one should take it upon themselves to showcase a flaunting of the law and think themselves “patriots”
- Bruce( no not him) - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 9:46 am:
Let’s see, what’s that saying?
F around and find out?
- Nagidam - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 9:52 am:
The new Assault weapons ban is the law of the land whether you agree with it or not. But, ISP just fed right into the talking points of the NRA. “They are coming for your guns.” The article talks about a gun dealer thumbing their nose at the law. Well, do stupid things you get stupid prizes. We shall have to see what happens to the person that purchased the banned firearm. It was confiscated. That is where things may get more into an uproar with the pro-gun crowd.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 9:59 am:
===ISP just fed right into the talking points===
“Without this law, you can see these brazen pro-assault weapons folks are to keep assault weapons on the streets”
The polling is not favoring a want of less gun laws, and I’m sure folks flaunting the law won’t sway others to think “it’s too far”
Keep that in mind when messaging micro versus macro audiences
- Norseman - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 10:07 am:
I’m glad the ISP is doing it’s job.
NRA et al may have their martyr. Their cause is a store owner with other products to sell, the pro-ban cause will respond with the dead and wounded children at schools throughout the country. As well the deaths maiming of some many others.
- TheInvisibleMan - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 10:13 am:
For all those ‘run government like a business’ types, what usually happens in business when an employee constantly announces they will not do their job, and someone else gets that job done anyway.
Turns out Sheriffs aren’t really needed. They really didn’t think this through at all. The long-term tomorrows always come after the short-term todays.
DuPage could, and would be prudent to, start shifting county funding from the county Sheriff and into ISP district 2 with some new Intergovernmental agreements.
- H-W - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 10:13 am:
Good. Thank you ISP. Breaking the law in this case is clearly intentional, as are the results.
If you sell illegal merchandise because you believe the laws do not apply to you, you must be prepared to suffer the consequences of breaking laws.
So too should those who abet such lawlessness be held accountable, especially sheriffs.
- Trap - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 10:24 am:
We will not comply…uh yeah you will
- Osborne Smith III - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 10:39 am:
Looks like Tom has his next client.
- Nagidam - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 10:49 am:
===We will not comply…uh yeah you will===
History in other states has shown compliance will be under 15%. The question is whether ISP or other law enforcement agencies will be knocking on doors to force compliance.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 10:52 am:
===The question is whether ISP or other law enforcement agencies will be knocking on doors ===
That’s far, far, far from the question. The real question is whether local police will enforce the sales ban at gun stores and shows. The rest doesn’t take effect for almost a year.
- RNUG - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 10:54 am:
The dealer blatantly flaunting the law was just being plain stupid. Maybe they wanted to create another court case with clear standing? Maybe Devore got another client?
From a statistical sample of one, I can say my neighborhood firearms shop is complying with the law. When I dropped in there last week, the place was almost empty. I expected the AR style to be gone,or at least not on display, but the shotguns were gone, and even almost all the pistols were sold out. Plus some brands of compliant magazines were in short supply.
I found the emptiness somewhat surprising, because I know he has a lot of LE customers.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 10:55 am:
===The rest doesn’t take effect for almost a year.===
This.
The enforcement is predicated to what is in effect, not what will/could be in effect.
This specific situation is to the compliance, today.
- Todd - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 11:00 am:
Rich is correct, that what will locals do while this thing plays out until there is a TRO or injunction.
Lets say State Police charge the gun shop, does the local SA decline to prosecute and force the AG to step in?
Saw some AR mags the other day, funny thing is standard AR mags are used for a variety of calibers, these happened to be labeled .458SOCOM despite holding 30 5.56 rounds, they only hold 10 .458 SOCOM rounds. . .
But then are the State Police going to start doing walk throughs of gun shows and shops? Online sales and such
- Demoralized - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 11:39 am:
==But then are the State Police going to start doing walk throughs of gun shows and shops?==
I doubt it. But if someone is dumb enough to openly flaunt the law then they get what they deserve. Regardless of what anyone says or thinks about the law, it is in fact the law right now.
- Amalia - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 11:40 am:
let’s hope they take a look at whomever sells. for years they did not really look at the junk gun ban that was on the books since the early 70s. they had to be forced into enforcing.
- JS Mill - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 12:11 pm:
=But then are the State Police going to start doing walk throughs of gun shows and shops? Online sales and such=
That was never going to happen and you know it. But, when someone is dumb enough to shout out their criminal behavior to the world, they will notice.
- Todd - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 1:17 pm:
I’ve e seen state police do a lot of things in plain clothes at motorcycle events wouldn’t put it past them
The gun shop was an idiot for doing what they did now well see how that plays in court but you do have state police searching records of gun shops for gun owners and showing up at their homes without warrants demanding they surrender firearms not a good look regardless if its because of
The gun shop it still looks like a home compliance check
No matter how much u explain it, it adds more distrust the government and the state police
- Stormsw7706 - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 1:32 pm:
Shut em down
- Occasionally Moderated - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 2:00 pm:
Todd, you and your bunch are what causes the mistrust in ISP. The ISP officers in the field have nothing to do with all this malarkey but that is who pays the price. But hey, outrage sells.
- Amalia - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 2:46 pm:
all this fear from gun sellers. just play by the rules. some do not. THAT makes it hard for others. junk guns sold for years. in violation.
- Demoralized - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 3:03 pm:
==No matter how much u explain it==
There’s nothing to explain. The shop advertised it for crying out loud. If you’re using their idiot action as the basis for your worries that the government is coming after you then you aren’t nearly as smart as I thought you were.
- Todd - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 5:21 pm:
Amalia — the vast majority do. But your side keeps trying to move the goal posts. You tried bankrupting them for bogus law suits and now try a workaround the PLCA that was passed to stop Suits like Chicago’s and others.
And BTW I know the manf of the pint sized mini-22 ARs, I ordered two for my grandkids, can’t wait for them to get here.
But you guys Demoralized, Jerry, norseman might want to give this a listen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7CAMr2nvxw
when we are winning in the courts in NJ, thats a good day
- Norseman - Tuesday, Jan 31, 23 @ 8:52 pm:
=== when we are winning in the courts in NJ, thats a good day ===
Not for the dead or maimed.