That toddlin’ town roundup: Poll has Vallas’ Black support plummeting
Thursday, Mar 23, 2023 - Posted by Rich Miller * New poll…
More here, but some trends outside of the 3.45 MoE are emerging as voters get to know the two candidates better. By far the most important trend is that even after several high-profile endorsements by Black leaders, Vallas’ support among Black voters has dropped by 13 points since the last poll taken March 6-9. Johnson’s Black support is up by 11 points. Johnson’s support is rising among women (up 4 points), men (up 6 points), age 46-60 (up 5.5 points), and progressives (up 11 points). Again, at least some of this is because people are just finding out who he is (and are overcoming their anger/disappointment that their first round candidate lost). Vallas is up among men (4 points), White voters (10 points), Latino voters (6 points) and conservatives (10 points). His support among women is essentially unchanged, which is not a good sign. And undecideds are down from 16 to 10. …Adding… I chatted last night with an elected official who said the same exact thing, but I didn’t check all three of the pollster’s results today. Vallas is in the mid 40s, where he has been pretty much the whole time. Is 45-46 a Vallas ceiling? The elected thought it was and that Johnson would overcome it. We’ll see…
* Eric Zorn makes a good point today that Johnson’s endorsements are almost all expected in one way or another. Vallas’ backing, however, has included some shockers, including Jesse White. Whether it does him any good or not is yet to be seen. * Oh, for Pete’s sake…
* The Cook County Democratic Women’s PAC was shut down by the Illinois State Board of Elections way back in 2014 after it was deemed inactive. The committee faced multiple fines. Press release…
* And now let’s look at Senate Bill 2339, which was introduced back in 2018…
The bill was sponsored by then Sen. Tony Muñoz. It was amended in the House and then died in the Senate. Brandon Johnson weighed in at the time…
Today from the Vallas campaign…
* Moving right along, notice anything missing from this story?…
It’s right that Bailey didn’t endorse Vallas, as we discussed yesterday. But Bailey didn’t just “talk about” Brandon Johnson. Bailey said that if Johnson was elected, “it’s going to be a dark day.” Also, it’s not just that Vallas spent a lot of time on talk radio shows, for crying out loud, it’s what he said on those shows and in other venues. For instance…
And somebody dug up this little quote from Vallas on Jeanne Ives’ podcast last year…
“Political science” was a common phrase used by covid deniers. Just sayin. * An excerpt from the Sun-Times story on Johnson’s meeting with the Crain’s editorial board…
Johnson could probably offer to babysit the Speaker’s kids for free anytime, anywhere and he still couldn’t pass that transaction tax. It’s folly. But, yeah, decent point about Vallas. A case can be made that New York City’s mayor hurt the Democratic Party last year by focusing on their soft on crime ways. Vallas could be much, much worse. * Isabel’s roundup… * Chalkbeat | Chicago school leaders foresee declining revenue but promise more investments: A district report last fall noted the city has shifted costs onto the district and could offload more expenses amid a transition from mayoral control to an elected school board. The report described the district’s financial outlook as “fragile” and warned of a potential $628 million deficit by 2026, which represents about 6% of this year’s $9.5 billion budget. * Sun-Times | Johnson won’t identify ‘plan B’ for revenue if City Council, legislature resist tax hikes: Johnson’s plan to help bankroll an array of new social programs is the cornerstone of his anti-violence strategy. It initially included a “Metra city surcharge” to raise $40 million “from the suburbs.” It still includes taxes on high-end home sales and financial transactions; a revived employee head tax; increased taxes on jet fuel and hotel rooms; and “new user fees for high-end commercial districts frequented by the wealthy, suburbanites, tourists and business travelers.” * Block Club | Will Retired Cops Return To CPD? Would More Detectives Curb Crime? Vallas, Johnson Spar Over Public Safety Platforms: Vallas also blamed Johnson and Chicago Teachers Union leadership for extended school closures during the COVID-19 pandemic. Johnson is a former CTU organizer and the union is one of his largest donors. * ABC Chicago | Vallas, Johnson spar over Kim Foxx’s performance and policing in schools: “She has led with an incredible amount of integrity. She’s been part of the type of reform that’s needed,” Johnson said. But, Vallas voiced his concerns about Foxx. “She has not been aggressive at keeping dangerous criminals off the street, and the data clearly states it,” Vallas said. … “He remains a paid employee from the Chicago Teachers Union. At the end of the day, what has he run? What has he managed? He’s voted on budgets. He’s never managed a budget,” Vallas said. “We all know someone like Paul who has failed over and over again and continues to be allowed to fail up,” Johnson said. * CBS Chicago | Johnson, Vallas get heated in attacks on each other’s positions in roundtable forum: One question raised at the forum to which the candidates’ positions has not made headlines before was whether Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx has made Chicago safer. Neither Johnson nor Vallas directly answered the question, but their responses did not suggest they are on the same page about Foxx. * CBS Chicago | What would Vallas, Johnson do to reverse downtown retail exodus? Both are short on specifics: “Michigan Avenue may have a vision for how they can revitalize – but yet the city regulatory department seems to be an obstacle,” Vallas said. Is Vallas short on specifics? Yes. But so is Johnson. “I’ve thought about this a lot,” Johnson said at a mayoral question-and-answer session earlier this week. “This is really about attracting innovative corporations to the city of Chicago.” * The Crusader | Coalition of women in ‘spirit of Mayor Washington’ endorses Johnson: Among the scores of women attending a press conference at Rainbow PUSH Coalition headquarters in support of Johnson, was Dr. Jacqueline Jackson, wife of Reverend Jesse Jackson. She told the Chicago Crusader, “We intend to win with Brandon because he’s the best man for the job and I’ve always been for the very best.” * Read Paul Vallas’ answers to Crain’s candidates’ questionnaire : “From the outside, from information that is publicly available, one might reactively advance proposals for spending and program cuts. But that would make proposals and prioritize solely on the basis of the portion of the iceberg that is above the surface, knowing that the greater mass warranting consideration is beneath the surface. This is further complicated by the fact that the city data is routinely flawed or fluffed, that most portions of the city operate without data-driven program and policy performance metrics and milestones, and more at the margin but not inconsiderable, a practice we came to learn in the last cycle of budget hearings of funds appropriated for specific purpose which the administration did not allow expenditure and implementation.” * Tribune | Public safety and environmental concerns are at the forefront in 10th Ward runoff: Chico and Guajardo made the April 4 runoff out of the five candidates in the Feb. 28 general election. None of the five won a majority of the vote, forcing the runoff between the top two vote-getters. Chico garnered 40.5% of the vote in February while Guajardo got 26.5%, or about 1,000 fewer votes than Chico, but she’s been steadily beating Chico in fundraising. * The Hill | Chicago mayoral race underscores city’s racial divisions: “Chicago has always been a city that has been very explicitly divided by racial politics,” explained Twyla Blackmond Larnell, associate professor of political science at Loyola University Chicago and faculty affiliate for the school’s Institute for Racial Justice. “Race is definitely one of the major cornerstones of how politics gets done in the city,” she continued. “Power is divvied up according to racial groups, but also you have to account for who in those groups has access to the social, economic and political resources that are needed to win elections as well.” * The Triibe | What anti-CTU rhetoric in the mayoral runoff election reveals about Chicago: According to several people who spoke to The TRiiBE, anti-CTU rhetoric during the election is grounded in a perceived fear that if Johnson becomes mayor, the issues that CTU has been organizing around for more than a decade, such as education, housing, and healthcare, would lead to the disruption of the city’s status quo and the interests of Chicago’s elite. * Block Club | Chicago Schools Poised To Vote On Keeping Police On Campuses: There are 59 police officers stationed across 40 Chicago public schools. Each school will convene a safety committee before local school councils vote by June 2 on keeping officers in schools, officials said. * Block Club | 36th Ward Candidates To Debate Northwest Side Ward’s Issues Thursday In Ukrainian Village: Villegas is headed to a runoff April 4 after failing to garner a majority of the votes to secure reelection to his third City Council term. As alderperson, the retired marine has pushed for a universal basic income program and to reinstate the City Council’s Office of Veterans Affairs. He’s also endorsed a plan to reopen the closed 13th Police District in West Town, which was closed in 2012 as part of a citywide consolidation of police resources. * Lynn Osmond, Larita Clark | Don’t forget tourism in the economic development equation: We all agree that Chicago is a great destination to live, work and play. As we look to the future, we want to work with the next mayor to continue to build a positive narrative about Chicago. This does not mean ignoring our challenges; rather, it is about recognizing our strengths while working to address our weaknesses. We need to share the positive stories about the city we love and talk about why Chicago is a great place to visit. * Block Club | Tickets, Signs Not Stopping Illegal Parking In Bike Lanes Where 2 Cyclists Killed, Northwest Siders Say: The 3800 block of North Milwaukee Avenue near North Kilbourn Avenue — which has seen two cyclists killed since 2019, car crashes, illegal parking and ongoing construction — has been set to receive concrete curb barriers since the second half of 2022 as part of the city’s bike safety upgrade to the area — but less than half of the Milwaukee stretch has completed barriers.
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- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:12 pm:
===By far the most important trend is that even after several high-profile endorsements by Black leaders, Vallas’ support among Black voters has dropped by 13 points since the last poll taken March 6-9. Johnson’s Black support is up by 11 points===
I think that’s why Vallas was so excited by the Bailey Facerbooking.
Good thing Vallas has all of the Bailey folks?
- ArchPundit - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:16 pm:
You go on Jeanne Ives podcast and you are a lifelong Democrat. How many other lifelong Democrats did that? Guest Host for Dan Proft–same. He didn’t go on either show to challenge them.
- Big Dipper - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:20 pm:
Vallas is coming off more and more like the angry old man shaking his fist at clouds.
- northsider (the original) - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:26 pm:
I value my health & that of my family too much to vote for a covid-denier or one who gives lip service to covid denial.
It’s that simple.
- Three Dimensional Checkers - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:32 pm:
Vallas overperformed the polls in February I think because he does have the Trumpkin voters who are not likely voters in these polls.
- Lincoln Lad - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:34 pm:
Vallas goes with Proft, Ives, and AWAKE and tells us he’s always been a democrat? He’s shown his true self, when someone does that over and over you should believe him, not vote for him.
- Montrose - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:41 pm:
I would have a lot more respect for Vallas if he stopped trying to gaslight us and said something like “yes I did and said those things during the height of the pandemic, but with the benefit of time and perspective I realize the Governor took appropriate action yadda yadda.” That may be a lie too, but at least he wouldn’t be pretending those things never happened.
- Rich Miller - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:41 pm:
===Vallas overperformed the polls in February===
He wound up with 32.9 percent.
M3 had him at 32.
- Loop Lady - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:45 pm:
Angry old white men are nothing new in politics.
More and more people may be opting for a new generation of he leadership.
Brandon is enjoying a surge in support with Vallas’ long political history and social media blurbs.
Paul has some splaining to do.
- Rogo - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:48 pm:
===when someone does that over and over you should believe him, not vote for him.===
Yes, but a conundrum begins when you consider the alternative.
- Ducky LaMoore - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:48 pm:
Paul Vallas has the chutzpah to accuse Pritzker and the state legislature of an unbalanced budget? He can bite me. He is the king of fiscal ruination.
- Three Dimensional Checkers - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:48 pm:
===M3 had him at 32.===
They had people who already voted in the sample too I believe. Others had Vallas leading but lower than 32%. I’m interested to see what M3 says.
- low level - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:50 pm:
The Johnson tax plan has been underreported so far. Its difficult to see it passing the legislature or City Council even.
- This - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 12:57 pm:
The great city of Chicago - and I mean that sincerely - is at a crossroads. On the one hand, you have a candidate with a long history in politics with a history of making anti-progressive comments on social media / talk radio and playing to the conservative voices. But at the same time, he’s someone of substance, policy and experience. His opponent is a charismatic, talented young leader whose obvious talents are galvanizing support to make this a neck-and-neck race.
To both of the candidates, Chicago’s at a crossroads facing serious challenges. It’s not enough to be a new candidate who speaks about inclusion but lacks serious policy prescriptions. Come on, Brandon, bring it. Bring more serious, credible policy prescriptions with some independence from CTU and you’ve got this race.
- low level - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:02 pm:
This ^^ for the win. 1000%
- SouthSideGT - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:07 pm:
I suspected the black support for Vallas would drop at some point because no matter how hard he and Joe Trippi try to hide his past Vallas is just the latest version of “the man”
- TheInvisibleMan - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:07 pm:
I don’t vote in the city election, so my opinion is worth less than yesterdays dog mess.
However, in any mayor election the most important quality I look for is who will be able to listen to advice from all directions and make the best decision, and who will they be listening to.
They can campaign on anything, and say anything, but at the end of the day whoever wins is going to have to do the actual job in office that will involve a multitude of moving parts and different voices - no matter what they campaigned on.
- Bad Goya Vitch - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:07 pm:
Brandon thinks that “attitudes” have led to mass incarceration? How about crime, dude?
- H-W - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:08 pm:
I am a downstater (interloper) to the Chicago mayoral race. As an outsider though, I am fascinated to see if Johnson’s TV ad (I’m the real Democrat) released yesterday will have any impact among blue collar workers over the next week. I suspect it could.
I am also interested to see if Bailey’s “dark day” comment will be used to motivate minority voting. Dark day is a racist trope, intentional or otherwise, and the fact that Bailey probably will just leave that comment hanging out there, might make for good fodder that Johnson can use and indirectly attach to Bailey’s implicit endorsement of Vallas.
- Dave Fako / Fako Research & Strategies - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:11 pm:
I have been polling in Chicago for about 30 years. One of the most reliable and consistent things we observe in polls and in most but not all election results is that when a viable and credible black candidate is running vs. a non-black candidate, the black vote almost always goes for the black candidate by very wide margins. This typically is in the 75% to 85% range. It doesn’t happen every time, but Vallas’ electoral history and this polling show that trend is moving in the historical trend.
- Mayhen - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:18 pm:
If you want to compare apples with apples in terms of polling, Victory Research’s final poll just a day or two before the Mayoral election had Vallas at 26.8% and Johnson at 20.2%. The final results were Vallas 32.9% and Johnson 21.6%. So, Victory did in fact underestimate Vallas’ support by 6.1% but Johnson’s by only 1.4%. https://www.nbcchicago.com/chicago-mayoral-election-2023/chicago-mayoral-poll-shows-paul-vallas-expanding-lead-with-johnson-lightfoot-and-garcia-in-tight-race-for-2nd/3082508/
- Big Dipper - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:20 pm:
There is a form of the word “dark” that is an explicit racial slur so to give that an innocent construction you would have to have just fallen off the turnip truck.
- Arsenal - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:26 pm:
Man, relying on shy Trump voters *in Chicago* seems like a dicey strategy.
- low level - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:52 pm:
Id love to see the approval or disapproval of Richard M Daley in the city these days.
- Steve - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:53 pm:
-anti-CTU rhetoric during the election is grounded in a perceived fear -
The fear of the taxpayer… LAUSD is on strike now because they want a 30% pay increase (LA wants to give them 23%). I can’t imagine CTU asking for anything less than 30%, and Brandon does represent the teachers. Brandon could be help his pension while Mayor.
- Original Rambler - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:55 pm:
Lots of good comments in this thread. Kudos.
Still undecided. Having a hard time finding a reason TO vote for one of these guys. Just a lot of reasons to vote against one or the other.
- Dotnonymous - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:55 pm:
The umbrella term “Crime” is everchanging… based on changes in societal attitudes…cannabis as one example…Miscegenation laws as another.
- Big Dipper - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 1:57 pm:
==Just a lot of reasons to vote against one or the other.==
For me it is whom I believe is well-intentioned versus whom I believe is cynical.
- Techie - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 2:04 pm:
“For me it is whom I believe is well-intentioned versus whom I believe is cynical.”
Even if Johnson wouldn’t be able to enact all of his desired changes, this is what fundamentally makes me support him. I believe he’s interested in making Chicago a better place for most of its residents, and he will hire people of that mindset.
Vallas seems more interested in the status quo, in the way things used to be, and in protecting business interests. I don’t see him fundamentally interested in improving the lives of the average Chicago resident.
- Amalia - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 2:05 pm:
re that CCDW endorsement of Vallas, everyone knows that group is a shill and is not what it was for many years. Rikki just name that number.
- Three Dimensional Checkers - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 2:06 pm:
Maybe I’ll vote for Johnson just to avoid listening to Pat Brady, IPI, and the rest of them act smug if Vallas wins.
- Rich Miller - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 2:12 pm:
===Maybe I’ll vote for Johnson just to===
I mean, it’s definitely an option lol
- Anon324 - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 2:12 pm:
==I would have a lot more respect for Vallas if he stopped trying to gaslight us and said something like “yes I did and said those things…==
You can take this statement and replace Vallas with Johnson and it would still hold up, just need to change what things he is attempting to gaslight. It’s ridiculous and frankly shows complete contempt for the electorate. I don’t think either of these two would be the winner if we had ranked choice, but then again, that’s entirely the point in trying to deny that option.
- Rogo - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 2:19 pm:
===well-intentioned===
I believe our current mayor was well-intentioned, too. But that will only get you so far in the mayor’s office. Eventually, problems need to be tackled. Otherwise, everyone suffers.
- levivotedforjudy - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 2:23 pm:
When Johnson ran and beat incumbent Richard Boykin for his Cook County Board seat, he used the exact same strategy of branding his opponent a DINO. If it worked on Danny Davis’ former chief of staff, why not try it again - and Vallas is helping him.
- DuPage Saint - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 2:32 pm:
re: “dark” I am so old I remember Walter Jacobson interview Rev Jackson when Jackson was running for President. Jacobs said do you consider yourself the dark horse in this race? Jackson replied,”Walter I am the dark horse in every race I run”. That and Jackson’s rendition of Green Eggs and Ham I think were two funniest things he ever said or read
- Amalia - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 3:06 pm:
latest $ list for Vallas has $10K from a Ricketts from Wilmette, woman, Cecelia. Trumpers.
- Suburban Mom - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 3:17 pm:
===I don’t vote in the city election, so my opinion is worth less than yesterdays dog mess.===
I mean, you could pretend to live in Chicago to vote in the city election, the same way Paul Vallas pretended to live in Chicago to run in it …
- Loop Lady - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 3:55 pm:
Ducky: Hey, I love your verbiage…I mean the Gov managed a huge public health crisis while working to improve IL bond ratings and was successful at both. Bite me indeed.
- Amalia - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 4:05 pm:
again re the CCDW endorsement of Vallas, you have to recognize the level of old school hack politics in this one. Some may think the group still is the progressive body it was back in the day. It is not. It is captured. And now Vallas has taken the imprimatur of something that once was good and he’s pretending to be that. It’s hack city.
- Big Dipper - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 4:16 pm:
== It’s hack city.==
You have given him a name for his autobio.
- Amalia - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 4:32 pm:
@ Big Dipper, sadly true.
- Lincoln Lad - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 5:47 pm:
@Rogo, I wish I had a better choice but it is what it is. Do I vote for the naive but well intentioned, or the guy who has repeatedly said things I don’t agree with while meeting with those with the exact opposite of my beliefs (though he constantly tells us that’s not him). Let’s not forget the tweets too. I’ll take the naive and hope for the best rather than a misrepresenting candidate who thinks I’m too dumb to figure it out.
- Big Dipper - Thursday, Mar 23, 23 @ 9:25 pm:
Per Nadig, Gardiner now has explicitly endorsed Vallas:
“I will be voting for Paul Vallas,” Gardiner said, adding the former Chicago Public Schools chief executive officer has his endorsement for mayor. “He’ll best address” the city’s crime and other problems, Gardiner said.
- Oswego Willy - Friday, Mar 24, 23 @ 7:15 am:
===Id love to see the approval or disapproval of Richard M Daley in the city these days.===
People over 50? Who knows.
The first thing I think of Daley now is the parking meter deal.