Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » From “death spiral” to finger-pointing
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      About     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact Rich Miller
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
From “death spiral” to finger-pointing

Wednesday, Jun 14, 2023 - Posted by Rich Miller

* From the recent campaign

“Our city faces a housing crisis and raising property taxes would only exacerbate that crisis, leading to a death spiral for our city,” Johnson’s financial plan states.

“As mayor, Brandon Johnson will not raise property taxes on Chicago families. Property taxes are already painfully high.”

* Sun-Times today

CPS is also issuing its highest allowed property tax increase of 5%, or about $131 million, to help support its budget. Property taxes are the school system’s largest revenue source with state funding still falling about $1.4 billion short. But CPS-issued increases — a routine yearly occurrence — have often gone under the radar compared to those at the city level. […]

Johnson also vowed on the campaign trail that he would avoid raising property taxes that he claimed were squeezing the middle class out of Chicago. But the district is allowed to raise taxes by the lesser of inflation or 5% — and is again doing just that. Inflation this year was calculated at 6.5%, so CPS will take in a 5% — or $131 million — increase. That falls in line with previous years. CPS has raised property taxes every year for the last decade.

Johnson’s senior adviser Jason Lee portrayed the new mayor as powerless to stop the “tax-to-the-max” increase.

“The mayor didn’t appoint a single person on the school board. These aren’t the mayor’s appointees,” Lee said. “At the end of the day, there’s been a budget process that was operated under a different regime with different assumptions. Now, it’s the 9th inning. … This is the end of the budget process.

“This is not an act of the Johnson administration … All we can do is look forward to the elected school board and whatever intermediary board that we have,” said Lee.

       

26 Comments
  1. - Donnie Elgin - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 11:33 am:

    “district is allowed to raise taxes by the lesser of inflation or 5% — and is again doing just that”

    Good old “Property Tax Extension Law Limit”.


  2. - 47th Ward - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 11:33 am:

    Welcome to the hot seat Mayor Johnson. Governing is hard, but I wish you well.


  3. - Chris - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 11:33 am:

    Seemed to have no issue with bypassing the Board to grant the CTU extra benefits (a reasonable benefit, imo, but should have been bargained, rather than given).

    The Mayor is still in control of CPS, so this is the Mayor trying tk have it both ways.

    Not a good look.


  4. - Pot calling kettle - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 11:47 am:

    If CPS follows the same rules as downstate, the 5% increase is in the levy (the total amount of property tax collected), not the tax rate (% of property value charged to owner). In fact, because inflation has been so high, the levy might increase while the rate goes down.

    Neither the newspaper nor the mayor’s office clarified this, but based on the general description provided, it appears to be the case.


  5. - Lucky Pierre - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 11:50 am:

    Refreshing to hear an elected Democrat actually acknowledge the effect of painfully high taxes, while at the same time maddening he is not willing to do to anything about it.


  6. - Back to the Future - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 12:02 pm:

    Already missing Mayor Lori.


  7. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 12:04 pm:

    ===painfully high taxes===

    Chicagoans need to look at suburban and Downstate property taxes.


  8. - Frida's Boss - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 12:14 pm:

    No it wasn’t me it was the one-armed man

    Agreed with Rich, if Chicago went by the 1/3 of assessment like the collar counties instead of 10% of assessed value currently, I’m guessing they’d have all the money they needed.
    I wonder what that would look like.
    Maybe Johnson’s team can call Fritz and ask for a quote.

    I think this would require a 60/30/1 to get that change. But certainly would give Chicago a lot more revenue.


  9. - Boone's is Back - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 12:29 pm:

    What a laughably weak statement. Despite CPS being a separate taxing body the Mayor still has a lot of control over CPS, as pointed out in the comments above. The Mayor could do more to prevent that large of a tax increase, at the very least by publicly putting pressure on the district. But he won’t do that because he was on CTU’s payroll up until a few weeks ago. This what happens when candidates talk out of both sides of their mouth and no one holds them accountable. First of many to come.


  10. - Timzilla - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 12:34 pm:

    Agreed with Rich, if Chicago went by the 1/3 of assessment like the collar counties instead of 10% of assessed value currently, I’m guessing they’d have all the money they needed.

    The state equalizer (3.0027 in 2021) essentially brings residential property to a 33.3% assessment ratio. On the other hand, commercial property, which is assessed at 25% and has the same 3.0027 equalizer applied pays far more than their fare share.


  11. - Thomas Paine - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 12:35 pm:

    The property tax increase ceiling became a property tax floor all across Illinois.

    It was foreseeable, like “limit two per customer” policies.


  12. - Old IL Dude - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 12:40 pm:

    Same guy who said “Defunding the police IS A policy. It’s not MY policy.” Johnson doesn’t have a clue.


  13. - Merica - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 12:40 pm:

    When comparing taxes between downstate Illinois and chicago, it makes more sense to compare downstate illinois to small cities and rural areas in Indiana, KY, Ohio, etc, to which they compete directly with, and compare Chicago to Dallas, Houston, Denver, cities it competes with. Across the board, taxes are too high. it would be easy to address this by taxing farmers more (they can’t move away) vs taxing commercial real estate (they can move their business elsewhere)


  14. - Bruce( no not him) - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 1:10 pm:

    It’s not my fault.
    Checked notes.. it’s her fault.


  15. - Been There - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 1:10 pm:

    ====
    ===painfully high taxes===

    Chicagoans need to look at suburban and Downstate property taxes.====

    I usually don’t bring up this subject with downstaters or suburbanites. But it is always a good comeback when I get asked why I still live in Chicago.


  16. - Jerry - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 1:11 pm:

    The only person who talked about “defunding the police” was Republican candidate Paul Vallis.


  17. - Pot calling kettle - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 1:13 pm:

    ==if Chicago went by the 1/3 of assessment like the collar counties instead of 10% of assessed value currently, I’m guessing they’d have all the money they needed.==

    Not necessarily. As I wrote above, the increase (and 5% cap) are on the levy, not the rate. Because the levy is the dollars collected, the 5% cap would result in a lower tax rate on the now higher taxed value.

    It is important to keep in mind that we do property taxes differently than other taxes and that increasing the levy may or may not result in a tax rate increase.


  18. - JS Mill - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 1:30 pm:

    =Good old “Property Tax Extension Law Limit”.=

    My guess is that you loved it when you first heard about it.

    =Across the board, taxes are too high.=

    Based on what? Another tired old trope.

    When I call the police or Fire dept, they always come. My roads are clear and my schools are good.

    Schools fixed costs are increasing at much more than 5% per year. Insurance alone has been moving at a 10% clip or better. Energy? Same thing. And wait until you see what buses cost these days. 25% increase for buses in the last 3 years. If you can get them. 5% is low.

    = increasing the levy may or may not result in a tax rate increase.=

    Pretty standard actually. Our tax rate dropped by .06 even though our levy went up 6% (we are not PTELL).


  19. - Frida's Boss - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 1:39 pm:

    @Pot- I get the 5% cap as all taxing bodies ask for full rate here in the suburbs, whether it meets that 5% increase or not is another story, some years it’ll only rise 3% but each taxing body always asks for the full 5% no matter what.

    I guess what I’m not getting though is that in collars, the property tax paid is 1/3 of assessed value? And the property tax paid in the city is 1/10th of assessed value?

    It’s how property taxes in the suburbs eclipse property taxes in the city. A $500k house in Beverly is going to pay much lower property taxes than a $500k house in Downers Grove.

    If true why doesn’t the mayor just petition to go after 1/3rd assessed value? Just call it a fair property tax?


  20. - Juice - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 2:01 pm:

    Frida’s boss, you’re not factoring in the equalization factor, which in practice only really applies to Cook County. (It applies statewide, but for everywhere outside of Cook that factor is almost alway close to 1.0.)

    In Cook County, the equalization factor is 3.0027.

    So when you take the classifications into account, (10% of AV for residential, 25% for commercial) that ends up meaning that residential properties are tax at 30.027% of their assessed value, and commercial properties are taxed at 75.0675% of their assessed value.

    The purpose of this is so that across all properties, taxes are based off of 33% of assessed value, it just is weighed more on business than on residential.

    But there is not additional tax revenue to be had by changing the classification system, it comes out in a wash. (Though when talking about economic development, particularly in the south suburbs where the tax rates are also high, that is a whole different discussion.)


  21. - Immigrants Welcome - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 2:06 pm:

    For years, Mayor Daley didn’t let CPS increase property taxes, effectively making it more and more challenging to meet their annually increasing costs. That’s why CPS raises its property taxes to the max.

    Am curious what Mayor Johnson would do to find the additional $131M for CPS. There aren’t many statutorily authorized options.

    Also, CPS’ share of the property tax bill is roughly half of what the average Chicagoan pays in property taxes. Nothing else comes close to impacting their bills.


  22. - JoeMaddon - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 2:14 pm:

    **if Chicago went by the 1/3 of assessment like the collar counties instead of 10% of assessed value currently, I’m guessing they’d have all the money they needed.**

    Property tax amounts are based on the levy, not the assessment.

    If tax changed to being on 1/3 of the assessed value, but the levy stayed the same, the property taxes would (roughly) stay the same.


  23. - Old IL Dude - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 2:25 pm:

    @Immigrants

    1. Daley hasn’t been mayor in 12 years. Kinda weak sauce to throw his name in the property tax increase discussion;
    2. CPS gets over $9B and does a sub-par job in improving student performance and outcomes;
    3. Johnson said that property tax weren’t going to go up in his administration. They are. He’s mayor. He has to own it.


  24. - JS Mill - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 2:50 pm:

    =Property tax amounts are based on the levy, not the assessment.

    If tax changed to being on 1/3 of the assessed value, but the levy stayed the same, the property taxes would (roughly) stay the same.=

    Yes and no.

    A districts EAV (equalized assessed valuation) and the rate work together to determine how much a district can levy. When the levy is set in December we work off of an EAV estimate from the assessor. We all have various rate caps (each fund is levied for individually. The overall tax rate is determined by combining the individual fund rates).

    PTELL districts work differently than non-PTELL districts. PTELL districts levy increases cannot exceed CPI or 5%. But they (with some limitations) can put that in whatever fund they want. They could levy almost everything in the Education fund and zero in other funds so long as the overall levy does not increase by more than the statutory maximum. A bit of a simplistic (and unrealistic) example but it is fine for this discussion.

    If the EAV was figured on 33 1/3% of fair market value versus the 10% (really about 16 or 17% with multiplier although this may have increased a little) then the district could levy more because it would be supported by the EAV. In a PTELL district it could only go up a max of 5% without a referendum.

    This is the downside of PTELL when inflation is high and real property values are increasing. But, when the opposite is true for values, PTELL. is a guaranteed increase where non-PTELL districts could lose revenue.


  25. - Jimmy Hart's Megaphone - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 3:02 pm:

    “You campaign in poetry; you govern in prose.”


  26. - Immigrants Welcome - Wednesday, Jun 14, 23 @ 3:40 pm:

    @ Old Dude

    = Daley hasn’t been mayor in 12 years. Kinda weak sauce to throw his name in the property tax increase discussion;
    2. CPS gets over $9B and does a sub-par job in improving student performance and outcomes;
    3. Johnson said that property tax weren’t going to go up in his administration. They are. He’s mayor. He has to own it.=

    1. Daley forgoing any property tax hike is extremely relevant. That’s 12 years of growth in resources that are completely absent from their base revenue. On the flip side, this is one of those perverse incentives of PTELL - if you don’t raise rates today, you’ll lose out on that revenue forever because the revenue compounds.

    2. CPS is actually one of the best urban districts in the country. Stanford University did an entirely independent study based on a national exam (NAEP) and CPS kids were the leaders. Stanford found CPS kids learned five years’ worth of material during four years of instruction. But please keep insulting these kids with stereotypes of failure.

    3. Yes, obviously. That’s why I asked what Johnson would do instead to come up with $131M to fund schools. Don’t see him as a guy who’s going to be cutting.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Reader comments closed for the weekend
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Campaign stuff
* Isabel’s afternoon roundup
* FOP Labor Council wants indicted murderer reinstated to job with back pay (Updated)
* If wishes were fishes...
* Meanwhile… In Ohio
* Open thread
* Isabel’s morning briefing
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Live coverage
* Selected press releases (Live updates)
* Yesterday's stories

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............


Loading


Main Menu
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

Archives
July 2024
June 2024
May 2024
April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

Syndication

RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0




Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller