18 Comments » - Larry Bowa Jr. - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 8:37 am: Glad a bunch of volunteer left wing lawyers could educate the state police about the laws it enforces and/or violates, depending on circumstances and public blowback. That’s value delivered to the taxpayers. - Robert E - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 9:44 am: During the Friday morning Oct 17th anti-ICE protest/rally - ISP told protestors to go in the street, then a few mins later they used batons to clear the street. the curfew is also a clear 1st amendment violation - any American should be allowed to walk down any side walk and say anything they want. the curfew is portrayed as some sort of Broadview Mayor ordinance, but the mayor obviously is in collusion with Pritzker - Occasionally Moderated - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 10:26 am: ==including but not limited to ending the practice of baton strikes to the head and neck.== A baton strike to the head or neck is also known as “deadly force”. Already prohibited by ISP general policy, crowd control policy, and the law unless deadly force is jusified. Prohibitions against these kind of baton strikes have been in the academy training that every trooper takes since at least the 80’s. The trained an drilled baton strikes are designed to prevent these kind of strikes, and even the appearance of strikes targeted to neck and above. This is probably the most video taped environment in the state right now- including the body worn cameras that all the troopers wear. ==Provide adequate warning, direction, and time for protesters to respond when issuing dispersal orders.== A basic tenet of all of the ISP crowd control training I have recieved over the 30 years I worked there. Designed to be understood by the crowd in loud and chaotic circumstances. Drilled into troopers heads. Drilled into supervisors heads. A basic tenet of all ISP training. An officer cannot expect the public to do what you want them to do if you don’t clearly tell them what to do. ==Ensure that ISP officers are trained regarding First Amendment activity, and to respect the lawful role that NLG Legal Observers play in protecting such activity.== All law enforcement officers in Illinois are required to complete training in civil rights and constitutional use of law enforcement authority in order to maintain their police certification. That is part of the Safety Act reforms. ISP goes far and beyond that training for all troopers because they know their officers will be involved in these kind of events throughout their career. ==Ensure that ISP officers do not impede attorneys’ access to detained clients and that we receive accurate information regarding clients in custody.== Covered rather thoroughly in state law. Covered extensively in Safety Act. ==Work with other stakeholders to address the curfew on First Amendment activity along with the protest zone that had been put in place.== I’m sure the ISP will adhere to the rules made by legislative entities. Of course there are challenges to all parties involved in events like this. Seems to me that our ISP has performed pretty admirably. They are the meat in the sandwich. When they got sent to this event I knew they would be criticised no matter how good of a job they did. It comes with the territory. - JS Mill - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 10:51 am: @Occasionally Moderated- It sounds like you were a State Trooper, is my assumption based on your post correct? I agree, they were going to get criticized no matter what. My experience with ISP has been that they are very professional and well trained. My thought when they were sent is that they would be a buffer between the protestors and ICE/CBP. I don’t think other see it that way but I did/do. - ArchPundit - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 11:14 am: While I thought communication could and should have been much better at the introduction of ISP, their training on these issues is far superior to the required training for CBP, ICE, and federal prison staff. OM’s point here is well taken. - Payback - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 12:08 pm: From what I know about the ISP, it recruits a lot of military veterans, compared to the average local police department. ISP has its own military style barracks for their basic academy, the recruits sleep there. The PTI (Police Training Institute) in Champaign, the trainees used to sleep in the Bromley hall private dorms, and go home on the weekends. Lots of drunks in that crowd. All in all the IL State Police is a much more militarized organization. Wish I had a group of pro bono lawyers on call for free every time I’ve encountered corrupt law enforcement. I’m not a member of a preferred victim group I guess. - @JS Mill - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 12:16 pm: @JS Mill- I was. retired what seems to be eons ago. My first crowd control incident was a white supremacist rally. We were the buffer between the counter protesters and some of the most disgusting people I had encountered to that point. Skinheads and losers wearing SS uniforms. Truly hateful stuff. The white supremacists tried to make it seem like ISP was on “their side”. It was disgusting. Manipulating perception is part of incidents like this. I think ISP just needs to keep reminding the public why they are there, that they are wearing body cameras and try to remind folks that they will have a rotating cast of supervisors. Some supervisors are better than others. The longer this goes on, the better the chance that something goes bad but professionalism will carry the day. - Rich Miller - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 12:16 pm: ===I’m not a member of a preferred victim group I guess.=== Lamenting you’re not a preferred victim is not the flex you apparently think it is. - JB13 - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 12:25 pm: – allowed to walk down any side walk and say anything they want – That is most definitely not true. Lots of apparently constitutional buffer zone laws and time-place-manner rules say otherwise. You can’t stand outside a polling place and campaign, for instance. And lots of people have been arrested for praying outside abortion clinics. Etc etc. To the post: It appears to be lost on many that the deployment of the ISP for crowd control in Broadview most certainly helped the state’s case in court that the National Guard deployment was not needed to maintain peace and protect ICE agents. Just imagine how much legal hay the administration could have made out of the mess that would have resulted if the governor had just left them alone to face a growing mass of “peaceful protestors,” night after night. - H-W - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 12:54 pm: === a preferred victim group === Are you insane, or just filled with absolute hate toward people who are not white men? - Stephanie Kollmann - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 1:49 pm: Sorry, but no, ISP is in fact not well-trained for this type of action. It is nowhere on the level of -and this is so painful to type- CPD. And responding to NLG’s demands with “oh that’s already what the rules are” doesn’t really deal with the fact that the demands are the demands for good reason. I feel sure that In These Trying Times, NLG has far too much to do to waste time telling the Governor to do things that are already happening. Use some common sense. - Stephanie Kollmann - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 1:53 pm: == It appears to be lost on many that the deployment of the ISP for crowd control in Broadview most certainly helped the state’s case in court that the National Guard deployment was not needed to maintain peace and protect ICE agents.== It appears to be lost on many that any effort at dialogue about the nature and purpose of the policing with protesters or attorneys up front could have resolved many issues in advance - and led to far less chaos and injury - and therefore an even stronger record of peacekeeping ability ISP showed up aggressively as yet another paramilitary force, telling people where they were allowed to be without any discussion a pretty bad strategic mistake in first approach to people who sincerely believe themselves to be opposing fascism - Stephanie Kollmann - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 1:56 pm: not sure if I lost my other comment or if it’s stuck but no, ISP is not particularly well-trained for this kind of activity, not compared to (gulp) CPD and if you think that NLG bothered to have a meeting to ask for things that ISP was already doing - think again “oh they’re not allowed to do that/that’s already the law” is pretty much the entire point - JS Mill - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 2:15 pm: =telling people where they were allowed to be without any discussion= I thought the City of Broadview was the one that created the designated protest areas? =not compared to (gulp) CPD= CPD certainly has more experience dealing with protests of all kinds and even riots than ISP. So you may very well be correct. The ISP is the most professional police force I have dealt with though. I wasn’t in person in Broadview, but I have observed them in action, dealing with a disorderly crowd in the past. In that situation I thought they used restraint and patience. Lots of items being thrown and taunting of the police. Just my expereince. - Occasionally Moderated - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 2:18 pm: ==not sure if I lost my other comment or if it’s stuck but no, ISP is not particularly well-trained for this kind of activity, not compared to (gulp) CPD== Surely you jest. You mean the Jason Van Dyke CPD or another one? - Juvenal - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 2:59 pm: I think it’s worth pointing out that Governor Pritzker said he was sending in the ISP unit that was *already* highly trained in monitoring peaceful demonstrations and lawfully preserving order. IDK who the Deputy Gov is over the state police, but I would tell the director and deputy director of the Illinois state police that one of them needs to pop by Broadview every day to remind officers why they are there. I am reminded of Kevin Costner’s character in the film about the Cuban Missile crisis admonishing pilots not to get shot at, and that they were not going to get shot at, and that they were there to prevent a war not start one, so if they thought they were getting shot at it was probably just a bird strike. - Stephanie Kollmann - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 3:16 pm: == thought the City of Broadview was the one that created the designated protest areas?== That is what ISP said today. It is not what ISP said at the time. https://news.wttw.com/2025/10/03/local-state-police-set-designated-protest-areas-outside-broadview-ice-facility ==You mean the Jason Van Dyke CPD== Yes. I mean that the notorious racist brutal police force that has committed murder and is failing to meet its consent decree obligation is better-trained to handle large events, crowd control, etc., than ISP. To borrow from Rich - maybe not the flex you think it is - Stephanie Kollmann - Tuesday, Oct 28, 25 @ 3:31 pm: == Governor Pritzker said he was sending in the ISP unit that was *already* highly trained in monitoring peaceful demonstrations and lawfully preserving order.== K. Why was IDOC’s Orange Crush there? TrackBack URI Anonymous commenters, uncivil comments, rumor-mongering, disinformation and profanity of any kind will be deleted. Name/Nickname - Required (required) E-mail - Not required (not required) URL - Not required