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Uh-oh - Another Rauner minimum wage comment surfaces

Thursday, Jan 9, 2014

* Sun-Times

A day after Bruce Rauner offered qualified support for a minimum-wage hike, a new video surfaced Thursday showing the GOP gubernatorial candidate telling an audience of Downstate Republicans in September that he “adamantly, adamantly” opposes raising the income bar for Illinois’ working poor.

The video in which Rauner appears to contradict the minimum-wage platform he outlined Wednesday came from the Democratic-funded Super PAC, American Bridge 21st Century, which Thursday posted on YouTube the recording of Rauner addressing the issue four months ago before Ford County Republicans.

“I am adamantly, adamantly against raising the minimum wage. My view is we already have the second highest unemployment in America. We already have an outrageously high unemployment rate among low-income, poor minority kids in Chicago, in Rockford, in Peoria and East St. Louis. And raising the minimum wage is just going to blow them out and take away their jobs. We cannot do this,” Rauner said in the video.

“Let’s be clear: The right answer to raised wages is a booming economy with employers competing to hire people and having our young people well educated and well trained,” Rauner said, drawing applause from the crowd gathered Sept. 7 at a Gibson City golf course.

This ain’t going away.

* Video…

Turns out that this is a BlueRoomStream.com video used without permission, so it may not be up long because the folks over there are quite upset. If it gets pulled down, I’ll repost.

- Posted by Rich Miller        


89 Comments
  1. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:35 pm:

    I am adamantly, adamantly enjoying this meltdown.

    Ut oh, indeed. lol

    So raising that $10. minimun wage bit …looks like Farce now, eh?

    The juicy irony is that a man who made $53 Million, is getting hammered by his own words… about what is the minimum you can pay another person.

    Awesome!


  2. - Formerly Known As... - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:36 pm:

    Uh-oh, indeed.

    And suddenly the plot thickens.


  3. - Siriusly - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:37 pm:

    But I thought his presser yesterday cleared this whole thing up. He was just being flippant. End of story, there is nothing to see here.


  4. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:38 pm:

    Bruce Rauner is writing $1 Million Checks, that “Bruce Rauner’s” mouth is making him cash…


  5. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:38 pm:

    Sigh. Mitt, they never learn.

    Some people aren’t aware yet that these new-fangled telephony gizmos see, hear and record all. And everything can be posted on the intertubes.

    How many debates are the various Rauners willing to have with each other?


  6. - tominchicago - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:39 pm:

    While I don’t like Rauner, what he said in that video does not contradict his current position. His point in the video is that Illinois should not have a min. wage higher than other states because it makes Illinois less competitive. If the feds raised the minimum wage, every state would have to comply, thus not harming Illinois’ competitiveness with other states.


  7. - Wallinger Dickus - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:41 pm:

    He needs to Christie-ize the crisis and start firing staff people before it’s too late.

    Who put those words on that danged taping machine?


  8. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:42 pm:

    ===what he said in that video does not contradict his current position===

    Wrong. Adamantly so, even. lol

    Go back and read what he said yesterday. He’s for raising the state minimum even without the feds.


  9. - Siriusly - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:42 pm:

    Good point Wallinger - he should totally fire the guy who said he wants to cut the minimum wage.


  10. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:43 pm:

    ===…what he said in that video does not contradict his current position.===

    Which position are you refering to;

    The one that says a $1 needs to be rolled back, taking money from those making minimum wage…or

    The belief that Illinois can go as high as $10. as a minimum wage, as Rauner stated he was not opposed to, after getting hammered…or

    Are you adamantly, adamantly not understanding the 180 degree turn yesterday, and this video which say that going above $8.25 is something “Bruce Rauner” is adamantly, adamantly opposed to doing?


  11. - CircularFiringSquad - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:43 pm:

    So FarmerBrucey was against raising the min wage before cutting the min raise before raising the min raise
    We thought the fact it would take a min wage worker about 137,931 hours to make the million he the consultants today would stick, but all these video moments evern better.
    What is the over under on how many debates Farmer Brucey now misses….we start with 5


  12. - Almost the Weekend - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:44 pm:

    It will be interesting to see how the Rauner team recovers from this. Before the minimum wage incident, it looked as if everything was coming together for him. Bad timing too considering this is during his bus tour around the state.


  13. - walker - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:51 pm:

    You mean I can’t even have a private conversation among friends at the golf course now? Is nothing sacred?


  14. - OneMan - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:52 pm:

    Or could this just be his Guns and God moment and it has no real impact….

    Not every stupid thing a candidate says causes a problem…


  15. - Formerly Known As... - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:55 pm:

    “Luuuuuucy! You got some ’splainin to do!”


  16. - Mason born - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:55 pm:

    Only the Germans can come up with a word that describes this feeling. Schadenfreude. This feels almost as good as when the guy who cuts you off gets pulled over by ISP.


  17. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:56 pm:

    Rauner Crew,

    AWillyWord Con$ulting is your Illinois Crisis Managemnt leader.

    We can assist you on;

    Dopey video gaffes
    Strange and untrue talking points
    Costume rental and design
    Poling and messaging with one message to carry through an entire week
    Transportation
    Mea Culpa techniques for the Hubris at Heart
    Understanding how to apologize, and when exactly to do it

    … and finally

    Image makeovers for those lacking any normal guy persona.

    Contact - AA -, and if you don’t know how, then you really need us!

    To the Post,

    This is also a Staff unforced error.

    How Staff can not be clear in the messaging and then realize what is “out there” and allowing the Dopey Mea Culpa, knowing that videos may be out there contradicting that hastly worded editorial and the media questions as they did yesterday.

    Wake up.

    You put the Principle in jeopardy by trying to get ahead of one train, but crossed thos tracks to get hit by another train!

    Amateur hour in handling the press, your Principle, and your message, which is probably thee of the most important aspects of being on a campaign staff … let alone a Paid Campaign Staff.

    This is a Staff unforced error, no mistake about it.

    Can’t put the Principle in front of a new train, after trying to dave him from the current train.

    Dopes!


  18. - Langhorne - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:56 pm:

    I might buy gas across the state line if it is cheaper. Others may do the same w cigarettes. But i have yet to hear of anyone going across the state line to buy a big mac, bec their lower min wage “makes them more competitive”.

    I expected brucey von carhartt to stumble in a debate over something like medicaid, or home rule. Not over something this basic. Cut it. I didnt say that. I was flippant. Raise it. No, i am adamant. Leave it as is.

    If a pol takes cash, then votes contrary to the union….bribe. If BVC takes 6 figure checks from like minded folks , and says what they all think, busting unions and all….thats just fine.


  19. - Phineas J. Whoopee - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:57 pm:

    Whenever I see guys like Rauner, I think of a quote from the film Broadcast News.

    “It must be nice to always believe you know better, to always think you’re the smartest person in the room.”


  20. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 2:58 pm:

    ===Or could this just be his Guns and God moment and it has no real impact===

    Once. Maybe. Twice, nope. And I’m betting there’s lots more tape out there.


  21. - Terrance Goggin - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:00 pm:

    The balloons in the background are a nice touch. You just don’t see enough balloons on the campaign trail. (probably inflated by a min wage worker)


  22. - Wallinger Dickus - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:02 pm:

    Bruce gave us the balloons and Miller gave us the sunshine on a cloudy day.


  23. - Bedheaded - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:06 pm:

    Could this be Rauner’s “helicopter” moment?


  24. - Say again - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:07 pm:

    As Bill so eloquently would say, “whoops.”


  25. - Formerly Known As... - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:08 pm:

    === Could this be Rauner’s “helicopter” moment? ===

    Perchance. But it feels more like a “47%” moment.


  26. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:09 pm:

    - Formerly Known As… -,

    Spot on. More like the “47%” moment… We will see.


  27. - skeptical spectacle - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:10 pm:

    i’m sure all of the minimum wage workers are watching this video on captiol fax now. i’m sure the minimum wage workers will be dramatically affected by the negative ads the unions run in the newspapers they never read or radios they never hear.


  28. - Ahoy! - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:12 pm:

    There is a lot of flip flopping here which is going to hurt him but he should have just stuck with these talking points. He can say he doesn’t want to raise the minimum wage because it will lead to job loss. He can’t say he wants to decrease the minimum wage and he especially can’t say he wants to decrease the minimum wage and then say he wants to increase the minimum wage and have these video’s surfacing.

    The phrase, not ready for prime time is starting to come to mind.


  29. - AFSCME Steward - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:12 pm:

    Why does Rauner need to participate in more than 5 GOP debates when he is debating himself ?


  30. - hisgirlfriday - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:12 pm:

    @OneMan - “Bitter clingers” was just audio. Can’t compare the fallout to a videotape.


  31. - Anonymous - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:14 pm:

    He used the phrase “well trained?” I’d like to be a fly on the wall should he ever decide to address a group of HR execs and recruiters for large corporations. I’m not sure that that term is even in their vocab any more. And I can imagine how the discussion would proceed once someone in the audience brought that “fact” to his attention.


  32. - Eddie Vale - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:15 pm:

    Hey folks - this is Eddie Vale from American Bridge…not sure why anyone saying this is unauthorized video…this was taped by our tracker who was at the event and posted on our youtube site


  33. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:18 pm:

    It’s kinda like Jason Plummer, but instead of wasting his Dad’s “limited” immense wealth, Bruce Rauner is wasting his Un-limitied immense wealth.

    Being wealthy and running for office is sometimes fun to watch.


  34. - Michelle Flaherty - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:19 pm:

    Overheard earlier that day at the Gibson City golf course pro shop:

    This is the worst-looking shirt I ever saw. When you buy a shirt like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup.

    Oh, it looks good on you Bruce.


  35. - Phineas J. Whoopee - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:23 pm:

    The only person probably more upset about Rauner’s blunders is the Governor who must be really, really wanting to run against this guy.


  36. - WhoKnew - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:23 pm:

    Only thing missing was Rauner’s old ad of him holding that Sledger Hammer thingy right next to the video!


  37. - William j Kelly - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:24 pm:

    You really can’t make this stuff up ! The gazzziiilllliilllonair that wants to reduce everybody’s standard of living! WHAT!!


  38. - Phineas J. Whoopee - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:24 pm:

    The only person probably more upset about Rauner’s blunders (than Rauner) is the Governor who must be really, really wanting to run against this guy.


  39. - Mason born - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:25 pm:

    It seems to me a candidate can get by with a lot if he seems likeable. Such as Clinton or Obama. I don’t think Rauner has enough money to make himself likeable.


  40. - PublicServant - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:26 pm:

    I don’t see a problem. His position is “evolving” on this issue. First, he was against a minimum wage increase, then he evolved into wanting a minimum wage decrease, yesterday he misspoke, and today he’s making a new commercial highlighting the Union bosses’ continued efforts to make a mountain out of a molehill buck an hour here, or there. Who’s counting anyway?


  41. - PublicServant - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:27 pm:

    I mean they’re getting a lot more an hour than the Bangladeshis tht made his carhart for crying out loud!


  42. - PublicServant - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:30 pm:

    Bruce - “Oh, the Jacket is made here? No wonder it costs so much!”.


  43. - hisgirlfriday - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:30 pm:

    And in not-so-shocking developments, nothing on this on the Trib’s website.


  44. - skeptical spectacle - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:31 pm:

    if you guys are pinning your hopes of rauner losing on a minimum wage gaffe, your hopes are thin.

    it WAS a gaffe, no doubt. but it won’t end up being a big deal. the key is if this gaffe presages others. we will see.


  45. - MrCR - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:32 pm:

    Poor Bruce…

    Oh, wait, that’s an oxymoron.


  46. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:36 pm:

    For Immediate Release

    January 9, 2014

    BRUCE RAUNER’S HAMMER AND SHAKE MORPHS TO FLIP AND FLOP

    Bruce Rauner can’t decide what Mimimum Wage tact to take.

    Chicago, IL - Republican candidate for governor Bruce Rauner will be handing out Waffles and Pancakes on his highly touted Bus Tour to laugh off what has become a firestorm of controversy about where he stands on the Minimum Wage issue in Illinois.

    The Rauner Waffles will have “One Dollar Less” branded on one side, and “Ten dollars!” on the other side of the Rauner Waffles.

    The Bruce Pancakes will have “Adamantly, Adamantly” one one side, and “Let them eat Pancakes” branded on the other side of the Bruce Pancake.

    “This is just political nonsense. I know where I stand and that is all that matters. Come and get a Rauner Waffle, or a Bruce Pancake when you see the Bus, and for those actually having an Minimum Wage job, you get a free piece of cake, named the Marie.”

    Check the Bruce Rauner website for stops in your area, and please only one Rauner Waffle and one Bruce Pancake per person, and just one Marie Cake slice per family.

    ###

    (snark)


  47. - Nearly Normal - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:36 pm:

    Keep looking for other appearances and the man will keep digging himself a deeper hole. His media folks will gobble up more money to downplay all this. They have job security until the primary.


  48. - Pot calling kettle - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:37 pm:

    The ads write themselves: Bruce Rauner is spending millions of his own dollars to become our governor, a job which pays in a year what he currently makes in about 7 hours (on a bad day). As an investor, it would seem like Rauner would be expecting a bigger return on this investment that the governor’s salary. Perhaps his investment in Pennsylvania is instructive…


  49. - MrCR - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:39 pm:

    Mike Schrimpf: “Bruce! Stay focused to our motto: ‘Shake Up Springfield’ not ‘Shake Up Bruce’!”

    Bruce: “Okay, okay. So which of the three positions polls best on minimum wage?”

    Schrimpf: “Hold on, let me grab the Magic 8-Ball.”


  50. - lake county democrat - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:46 pm:

    Can somebody say “Al Hofeld”?


  51. - Carl Nyberg - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:46 pm:

    Bruce Rauner shows himself to be cynical and a policy lightweight.

    Rauner doesn’t care about these issues. He’s just blathering what he thinks he needs to say to get elected.

    Put him down as a rich guy who thought being rich made him smart, wise and witty.


  52. - Phineas J. Whoopee - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:48 pm:

    “if you guys are pinning your hopes of rauner losing on a minimum wage gaffe, your hopes are thin”

    I’m not so sure about that. I can’t imagine a better way of proving your out of touch and worthy of the title Baron Carthartt than trying to take money from the working poor.

    And amazingly, he did it to himself.


  53. - Loop Lady - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:48 pm:

    This is what happens when ego and feelings of entitlement get way out of hand…like I said yesterday, arrogant boob…


  54. - PoolGuy - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:55 pm:

    “if you guys are pinning your hopes of rauner losing on a minimum wage gaffe, your hopes are thin”

    remind us all again how 47%, 7/Eleven cookies, $10K bet-like comments did not hurt a certain someone over a year ago???


  55. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 3:57 pm:

    ===but it won’t end up being a big deal. the key is if this gaffe presages others. we will see.===

    lol, wishing away a gaffe from a Mea Culpa of a previous gaffe is the best way to make even more gaffes and look even more foolish every time you the Principle talks.

    You keep hoping, and those PACs will keep after “Bruce Rauner”.


  56. - Dirty Red - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 4:01 pm:

    “I always like pictures to go with my stories.”


  57. - Chavez-respecting Obamist - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 4:07 pm:

    I just spent a few minutes researching the effect of a minimum wage hike on employment and guess what–economists disagree on the effect. So I will guess–not being an economist–that some badly-run businesses go fire all of their employees rather than pay them more, and some places figure out how to get along paying the new rate.


  58. - Jaded - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 4:07 pm:

    Saying you want to cut the minimum wage… $1. Saying you want to raise it… $1.75.
    Saying you support both…priceless!


  59. - Smoggie - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 4:12 pm:

    The tape would be a major problem if Bruce was running as a Democrat.

    However, I suspect that most Republicans like the idea of lowering the minimum wage.

    Right now, the statements probably help him in a primary.

    He should simply let the comments sit and talk about whatever it is he thinks is important (probably bashing union leaders).

    November is a heck of a long way off. He needs to convince GOP voters that he’s really one of them, and this should help.

    Fight one battle at a time. Get the nomination. This will accomplish that goal.

    Then worry about the next one.


  60. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 4:14 pm:

    ===I suspect that most Republicans like the idea of lowering the minimum wage.===

    You’d be dead wrong.


  61. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 4:17 pm:

    - Smoggie -,

    Inconsistant tact on Minimum Wage, including go up to $10. and reducing it $1. is a factor in a Republican primary.

    Three different positions does not show leadership, and a complete lack of understanding the political issue, and if Rauner gets out of the Primary, it is going to be hammered that Rauner cares very little about the Poor, and is quite the elitist.

    - Smoggie -, do you consider yourself a Republican? I am asking as to get your take is you are…


  62. - yo - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 4:23 pm:

    nothing like a good ol’ fashion media feeding frenzy. (gotta admit the chris Christie implosion has been cool to watch too)
    Go get’em boys & girls.


  63. - Percival - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 4:31 pm:

    Lesson: Bruce Rauner is more of a “fringe” Republican than people realize . . . so far.


  64. - Arthur Andersen - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 4:34 pm:

    This just in…WMAY radio in Springfield is reporting they have another recording of Flip Rauner from last year saying “lower the minimum wage.” He’ll be on the air tomorrow with them.


  65. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 4:49 pm:

    AA, lol.


  66. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 4:58 pm:

    - AA - How fun! lol


  67. - Carl Nyberg - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 4:58 pm:

    If Rauner doesn’t understand the minimum wage, what does he understand about public policy?


  68. - Very Old Soil - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 5:05 pm:

    From an earlier thread

    Very interesting article in the December 14 The Economist on minimum wage. I strongly recommend to all.

    http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21591593-moderate-minimum-wages-do-more-good-harm-they-should-be-set-technocrats-not


  69. - Classico - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 5:37 pm:

    Comedy gold on this page.

    Someone said Rauner is a “policy lightweight.” So, what does that make the people in charge running the state into the ground: “policy heavyweights?”

    Nobody is talking about whether a higher minimum wage in Illinois is good for anyone. Why is Illinois doing so poorly with higher MW than surrounding states? Maybe one of the policy heavyweights on this board can enlighten everyone.


  70. - steve schnorf - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 5:54 pm:

    Class, I know you’re in there pitching, but nothing can change the fact that Bruce Rauner is a one percenter,and he’s running in a campaign where 95% of the voters aren’t. He has to adjust to that reality without seeming either false or condescending. My guess, won’t be easy.


  71. - MrJM - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 6:02 pm:

    #HammerAndFlipFlop

    – MrJM


  72. - concern1 - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 6:06 pm:

    This is Illinois politics at its best…say one thing to get their vote …deny it on the next stop to get their vote…wow almost as good as out governors flip flops!!!


  73. - Anonymous - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 6:42 pm:

    =The gazzziiilllliilllonair that wants to reduce everybody’s standard of living!=

    William, we probably should consider forgiving him. *whispers: I believe he’s that other type of globalist.*


  74. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 6:43 pm:

    –And in not-so-shocking developments, nothing on this on the Trib’s website.–

    HGF, Farmer Bruce has a reserved space on the Trib editorial page to address these issues directly, without having to answer questions from pesky reporters.

    You get that when you’re the only candidate dropping money for spots on WGN and CLTV. Tribune Co. has to try to make money somewhere, somehow; the paper doesn’t even cover its nut.


  75. - Anonymous - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 6:52 pm:

    I wonder whether that’s Sam Zell’s influence still at work–or am I “misremembering” things. That’d be too bad. I’ve always liked and respected Mr. Zell…mostly.


  76. - DuPage Dave - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 6:53 pm:

    Baron von Carhartt just can’t help himself. When you live in the bubble of wealth no one contradicts you or reminds you that what you said today does not match what you said last week. No one comes up with a video from months ago proving what you said yesterday can’t be relied upon as true. It must be very frustrating for the Baron to have to put up with so many little people in order to become their governor.


  77. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 6:54 pm:

    Facebook and Twitter are silent in “Bruce Rauner” world.

    I have to hear about a “Bus Tour” you don’t even have followd by your own social media.

    Is there some imploding, with the “Tour”, this minimum wage fiasco all shaking down …

    Relects poorly on the campaign, the Campaign Paid Staff, and the Candidate.

    Must be cirling the wagons, because the silence … is now deafening.

    That cracker-jack staff better be figuring out all the Dopey things “Bruce Rauner” has said if they are going to go dark like this, during a “tour”.

    Yikes!


  78. - Anonymous - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 6:58 pm:

    =Bruce Rauner is more of a “fringe” Republican than people realize=

    lol Haven’t you been paying attention? Few are bothering to even call him a RINO.


  79. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 7:16 pm:

    For those of you keeping score at home, the Sun-Times is keeping a rolling timeline on Farmer Bruce’s minimum wage positions.

    I imagine it’s going to get a workout in the next 48 hours or so.

    http://voices.suntimes.com/early-and-often/politics/timeline-rauners-statements-on-the-minimum-wage/


  80. - truth hurts sometimes - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 7:42 pm:

    Based on last year’s tax returns, Rauner makes the hourly minimum wage in just FIVE seconds.

    Quinn will destroy him.


  81. - Just The Way It Is One - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 8:00 pm:

    O…M…G! This guy is unbeLIEVable!! “ADamantly, ADamantly” opposed to helping folks struggling to make ends make, and to the contrary, inSISTing he wants to make life even HARDer for them–and all this after he tries to back-pedal and flip-flop all OVER the place on this matter earlier today?!! The ULtimate in HyPOCrisy. AND sickening. Truly sickening…!


  82. - Just The Way It Is One - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 8:02 pm:

    That was MEANT to read above, “…make ends meat…?!” But I was too worked-UP to type it right the 1ST time!!!


  83. - Formerly Known As... - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 8:29 pm:

    This is so dang depressing.

    On one hand, you have a governor who cuts pensions, union contracts, services to the mentally ill and funding for homeless veterans shelters, all while presiding over one of the weakest economies in the country in terms of unemployment rate and additional metrics.

    On the other hand, you have the only guy who could make him look like an ally of those constituencies.

    I don’t know whether to laugh, cry or just give up.


  84. - SilverAlvaro - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 9:04 pm:

    I don’t know of anyone who says that raising the minimum wages creates more jobs. Listen, I wish we lived in a state where the business climate is friendly enough to mitigate the risks of jobs fleeing the state; but if you know of anyone who would give witness to that here in Illinois, I’d love to meet them. You can hate Rauner for telling it like it is or you can respect him for it. He just isn’t running for governor of a state with a solvent pension system, budget, business-friendly climate or reasonable legal climate.


  85. - wordslinger - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 9:22 pm:

    –You can hate Rauner for telling it like it is or you can respect him for it.–

    Which Rauner? There are three positions and counting.


  86. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 9:34 pm:

    - SilverAlvaro -,

    lol

    You are counting unethical Bruce Rauner to “fix” things?

    Unless Bruxe Rauner can clout a child, or donate to a campaign, or wear a Carhartt Coat, or have a snow globe or sledgehammer in his hand, Bruce Rauner is all hat and no cattle.

    That might shake you up, - SilverAlvaro -, but don;t hate any of us for pointing out his Dopiness.


  87. - Oh, please.... - Thursday, Jan 9, 14 @ 11:15 pm:

    This guy will say anything - ANYTHING - to get elected.


  88. - Henry Clay - Friday, Jan 10, 14 @ 8:20 am:

    Dearly Beloved, we are gathered here to mourn the recent loss of our close friend and recently departed comrade Bruce Rauner. Brother Bruce was fatally hurt while participating in his “first rodeo”. He had inadvertently been handed flip-flops to wear instead of cowboy boots by members of his inexperienced staff. His foot slipped out of the stirrup, and it was soon wedged in his mouth. Brother Bruce soon expired on the rodeo arena. The Reverend Bridget Kelly has been kind enough to fly here this afternoon from New Jersey to say a few words over our recent meal ticket and candidate Brother Bruce. Go ahead, “Bridge”—t. Say a few words. (Kelly): Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, total incompetence is a must—-. Rest in peace and obscurity, Brother Bruce.


  89. - Seriously - Friday, Jan 10, 14 @ 8:22 am:

    This is exactly what happens when someone attempts to be someone they ARE NOT, jacket and watch not withstanding, he IS WHO WE THOUHT HE IS! If not on this issue, he would expose his real self on another issue and will likely do so still. He once described his desire to support Charter Schools because people just didn’t want their kids to go to school with THOSE kids. This elitist is not fit for public service and he is likely to find out it is very difficult to buy. He actually might have been better off to run a Scott Lee Cohen campaign and never have shown up anywhere.


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