Channeling my inner Smilin Jack Ross: “If you didn’t get back from Post 32 until 14:45, how could have you been in your room at 14:20″? There’s no way DR would have told the guy to submit a fraudulent travel expense voucher.
So the tank top thing, which I found the only non-hearsay allegation of harassment included in the complaint turned out to be a joke?
Did Svenson and the agent/attorney for Jonathan Martin go to school together with these out of context text messages media battles?
Man at this point I almost hope this was some kind of political hit because if not, and the accuser in his reportedly precarious financial and medical state actually paid money to Christine Svenson for this quality of representation for a legitimate claim, then he was victimized all over again.
It’s also possible that the accuser lied to his attorney and she put the allegations in the complaint without knowing the full context. But you’d think she’d do some due diligence before putting in easily refutable facts into the complaint.
Rutherford did not back off his attack against Rauner one bit during that conference, in fact if anything he was more aggressive. He did not really dodge any questions or appear defensive, he did as good of a job defending himself as could be done.
Rutherford is done. The employee is a high level staffer with big responsibilities and compensation right under six figures. His position, salary and responsibilities will insulate him to some extent from character assassination.
The complaint has many more alleged incidents than the ones they are vouchering out of. There are many incidents where presumably the time, place and presence won’t be disputed. What do you do with those he said versus he said?
If two prior employees were bought off through severance deals, then he falls prey to what did in Herman Cain. The press will go after those agreements and if there are big payments they will equal a perception of pay off.
In the complaint Rutherford comes off very sleazy on multiple fronts, as a boss, on the fund raising and then of course the advances. His COS is slammed. Presumably there are plenty of documented communications relating to the pressure to fund raise.
In the end how do you campaign, raise money or move message forward under this kind of cloud? You have now stepped up to the mike twice doing nothing but damage control.
For downstate your sexual orientation is now in play, and the allegations center on the worst fears of the stereotype.
You may in the end beat the lawsuit. But in the meantime you have lost any chance of winning the primary.
1) His general bearing and demeanor was much better than the first bizarro presser from the other week. Doing the presser rather than just doing a press release was the right move here. Risky, but in hindsight the right move.
2) He did a good job of casting doubt on the veracity of the complaint. He called the plaintiff’s motives & timing into question, and certainly cast doubt on part of the facts. Although some of the other allegations might not be a he said/he said situation, the fact that some of the allegations can be easily refuted also damages the credibility of the rest of the complaint.
3) That being said, “if you’re explaining, you’re losing.” If no other shoes drop on this case, then it’s still very damaging to Rutherford. It softens his support and forces him to buck up his own troops. This all helps Rauner, as it’s clear that Ruther is not getting out of the race at this point. The longer the “other 3″ stay in the race and fractured, Rauner has the decided advantage.
4) This, of course, assumes no other shoes drop. If additional shoes drop that clearly indicate Rauner involvement, then this could boomerang very badly. But Rauner is not a stupid man. Alternatively, if additional shoes drop in the form of credible witnesses or additional plaintiffs coming out of the woodwork against Rutherford now that political blood is officially in the water, then he’s done.
As it stands, this is lining up perfectly for Rauner. Enough to severely damage Rutherford, but not so badly as to get him to drop out & swing support behind Dillard.
- Formerly Known As... - Monday, Feb 10, 14 @ 5:18 pm:
Oh and Wally, you do realize that what I said was snark, right? Because if everyone believed that people who have financial problems are nothing better than liars and crooks who do not enjoy the same constitutional rights and protection as everyone else, where would many of those people be and what kind of a society would we be?
=But rauner and the Sun-Times remain. They ‘re the ones, in 2014′, that think being gay is a Scarlet Letter.=
I’m not a Rauner supporter, word–though I’ll admit there have been a couple of instances where I changed my mind last minute at the polls. I don’t, however, understand why you feel so strongly that Rauner and the Sun-Times believe that being “gay is a Scarlet Letter” based on the “assistant article,” which I believe is the one to which you keep referring or anything else I’ve seen.
I’m not being argumentative. I’m not defending anyone. I just really do wish I could understand why you’re so certain that the paper and Rauner are as opposed as you seem to believe they are.
Saw his brother murdered in the streets, first kid in family to go to college.
His Mizzou team mates are cool. Thank God,for the kids. They get it.
Hey Bruce, Natasha, I hear Mike Sam shared a hotel room on tthe road with another dude. Better get on that. Because it’s wrong, right
- Just The Way It Is One - Monday, Feb 10, 14 @ 5:52 pm:
This is all just so sad to follow…but any way you shake it, and I give it to DR for his adamant denial, but…well, I expounded my Comments on UPDATED X3 as to the reasons, but in any event…to summarize: “Rutherford is a goner.”
And yet, I would only strenuously add at this point, howerver that IF RAUner is somehow, even TENuously connected to trying to taint the Treasurer in all of this somehow–e.g. trying to “out” him, when the Treasurer has clearly denied that he is gay, would be utterly repulsive and a MAjor Campaign issue; I only hope that Investigative Media in this Great State of ours will stay ON that Angle to see if there’s something more TO the inferences thereto…!
- Just The Way It Is One - Monday, Feb 10, 14 @ 5:54 pm:
That was meant to be spelled above, “…at this point, however,…!”
Somebody really ought to ask Rauner point-blank: do you think being a homosexual somehow disqualifies one from being governor? Because that is the implication of the innuendo his team was peddling, that the very fact of one’s sexuality was enough to trump any and all other consideration. Does he really believe that? If not, why was he trying to get that info out there so aggressively?
This is 2014, not 1514. I hope people remember this sleaze when Rauner begins his march to the left after the primary.
- Just The Way It Is One - Monday, Feb 10, 14 @ 5:56 pm:
P.S. 47th Ward @4:57 pm: That Comment about Kim was absoLUTEly hilarious…!!!
- Just The Way It Is One - Monday, Feb 10, 14 @ 5:57 pm:
Word it was nice to see the coach be so supportive. Mizzou has built a reputable and respectful football program. hope they keep it up in tough SEC.
regarding post, I’m no lawyer (so cut me a little slack :) ), but if Rutherford is saying all the allegations are completely false, that accuser has financial problems and stressful life issues, and if the $300K was not some out-of-court settlement. why not leave the Rauner angle alone and go on a full out assault on the accuser as this is extortion pure and simple. file a counter suit for extortion and go after him with the evidence he has. say i am state treasurer running for governor and i am being extorted by a disgruntled now former employee. his presser was just trying to explain away some of the situations. but if everything is all false and made up then isn’t a crime being committed here? trying to deflect again to Rauner seems his only desperate attempt to stay in this race.
I am still just sad about all of this. I do worry that tying Rauner with no tie… Is not the best strategy. I agree he did the best he could. If others come forward now, it’s over. The attorney claims other people came forward first. Where are they? I realize many appreciated his stern rebuke. I also remeber a President of the United States did the same. Ego is a terrible thing.
RE: “But rauner and the Sun-Times remain. They ‘re the ones, in 2014′, that think being gay is a Scarlet Letter.”
I would only add this slight amendment to your thoughts — Bruce and the Sun-Times are the ones to believe that the Illinois Republican base and many, many GOP voters, especially south of I-80 - still believe in 2014 that being gay is a Scarlet Letter.
I personally believe that article in the Sun-Times was one of the ugliest pieces of pandering I have ever seen, and I was shocked to see who allowed their by-line to appear on it.
The issue is not what Rauner thinks about someones sexuality, but whether a person who is unwilling to acknowledge something so basic about himself is qualified to become governor. When one seeks the responsibility of high office you should be able to accept and acknowledge who you are to prevent the possibility of coercion or blackmail. Average citizens are afforded a level of privacy simply not available to high government officials. They want us to trust them to make decisions affecting out very lives, and yet many are not willing to be open about the very core of their lives. We saw what happened when the FBI was led by such an individual and it was not pretty. Today a milestone was reached in the NFL. How about a milestone in the race for our next governor?
47 , that’s a good question. Maybe there should be a referendum.
Again, the sexual harrassment issue is separate.
But it is clear that Rauner and the Sun- Times dealt in prurient, hateful homophobia.
What big brains at work. Never seen that before in Illinois politics.
I’m not surprised that Rauner would use homophobia as a weapon. I’m not a kid, I’ve been to a couple of state fairs, a rodeo and a picnic. Rauner is the most cynical, most contemptuous of the people politician ever.
I remain shocked by The Sun-Times participation in this ugliness..
Natasha, Mark, Carol, Mary, Thom, anytime now. Answer to that trash.
Norseman, I think I have a good idea of what many GOP primary voters think. After March 18 though, I want people to remember Bruce’s sleazy attempt to out Dan Rutherford by suggesting that sharing a hotel room with another man is somehow indecent. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean?
Because after this primary ends, we’re going to be treated to a new Bruce Rauner. The new guy won’t remember a lot of what the current guy is saying and doing, stuff like peddling this trash to the Sun-Times.
Sometimes people surprise you-even Repubs. And no one likes to be played a fool. I’m hoping this bogus smear brings about a collective ahaa and voters see it for what it is. I doubt it because the media keeps giving the guy cred-but you never know
that’s twice now that people have made comments about looks and the believability of their accusations. so if a woman is unattractive in your eyes and is raped then she shouldn’t be trusted as a more attractive person? that’s pretty twisted.
“Early and Often” is not just snark about Chicagoan voting habits.
The Unions, the Dems, the teachers specifically, the Pro-Lifers, and anyone that does not have 9 houses … that is the universe of voters against “Bruce Rauner”, Bruce Rauner, and “March 19th”…Bruce Rauner.
If there is coffee and donuts at the campaign office with walk sheets, - 47th Ward - …
@WS 7:10 =Not surprised by Rauner….use as weapons. That’s for sure. Mudslinging is normal, but Rauner’s sympathizers and or money are throwing septic-tank sludge. The campaigns are smelling like the farm fields after a visit from the tanker trucks. Planes dropping Napalm will be next.
- Original Rambler - Monday, Feb 10, 14 @ 8:37 pm:
Oh come on;
You’re on the right track. I have a hard time believing EM’s background will stand up to the coming scrutiny as well as his enablers over the years.
Look I don’t give a damn whether the man is straight or gay, but his refusal to level with us one way or the other is what is causing this corrosive issue to fester. Being in the closet is no longer an acceptable option for public figures in this transparent age. There is no shame in being gay there is shame in being ashamed of being gay.
Catstrike - Dan has said publicly, in an interview, that he is not gay. Said it publicly. You say that once to get it on the record. He shouldn’t have to continually have to address it. He already has. People don’t want to believe him, but that’s on them, not on Dan.
Somebody mentioned that Jesse White possibly assisted the accuser landing the job at Recorder of Deeds. Not a chance. Karen Yarbrough fired a Jesse White sponsored employee(Darlena Burnette) as Deputy Recorder when she became Recorder of Deeds. Karen Yarbrough has eyes on a higher office (SOS/State Treasurer?) Maybe she liked the accuser’s resume. He may have some inside dirt on both those state agencies.
If Rutherford is innocent, as someone mentioned earlier, there was no need to accuse Rauner of anything. Just say that you’re being extorted by a former employee who is making some crazy allegations. The presser yesterday would have been a fine response to the lawsuit, if Rutherford had not brought this whole story to light by making allegations he can’t prove against Rauner.