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*** UPDATED x1 *** No Cleveland for Rauner

Friday, May 6, 2016 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Yesterday

Sneed hears rumbles Gov. Bruce Rauner may not be attending the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Ohio, this summer.

“That’s what I hear,” a top GOPer said.

Not surprising.

Yep. Not a surprise.

* Today

Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner won’t attend the Republican National Convention in July and won’t be endorsing Donald Trump, Rauner aides confirmed on Thursday, while not entirely disavowing the presumptive GOP nominee.

And it’s not yet clear whether Illinois Comptroller Leslie Munger will make the trip to Cleveland, as she faces a challenge from Democrat Susana Mendoza this fall.

If she goes after Rauner ditched, she’s nuts. I highly doubt she’ll attend.

* More Sun-Times

While Rauner has dubbed the presidential campaign’s rhetoric “appalling,” he has publicly stated — as the head of the state’s Republican Party — that he will support the nominee.

“I’ll do everything I can to work with that nominee,” Rauner said in March.

Yep. I remember that.

*** UPDATE ***  Video of the governor’s previous remarks

[ *** End Of Update *** ]

* Tribune

Rauner repeatedly had sought to stay out of the presidential race, though he did say that as leader of the GOP in Illinois, he would back the eventual nominee. But Rauner aides stressed there are various levels of “support,” and that the governor would not be giving Trump a formal endorsement.

Heh.

* More Trib

Underscoring the politics behind Rauner’s move, the governor’s decision means he also will not accept the traditional role of heading up Illinois’ 69-member convention delegation and the high-profile media appearances that come with it. At the same time, Rauner avoids any potential appearance with Trump, which some advisers said privately would not be helpful to the governor back home.

Ya think?

* More Trib

“My feeling is we overestimate the impact of tactics and underestimate broad trends and demographics,” he said. “What Trump does or doesn’t do may have less impact than what Munger or Kirk does. Then there’s the broader context of the election and who votes and who doesn’t vote and what gets people to come out to vote.”

People pay infinitely more attention to presidential races than comptroller races, but that last sentence is most certainly valid. The headwinds ain’t gonna be kind.

* Meanwhile, the Tribune editorial board whacked Trump hard this week

His appeal among disaffected Republican primary voters is intensely visceral: He’d arrive in Washington a billionaire businessman in a hurry and get things done. After years of gridlock in Washington, who doesn’t find the idea of an outsider appealing? […]

Trump is an undisciplined political neophyte who loves the limelight and promises big changes, most of which appear either implausible or too vague to take seriously.

Umm.

       

79 Comments
  1. - Ducky LaMoore - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:30 am:

    This is totally a lose-lose situation for republicans. You alienate a portion of your base no matter what you do. November will be a cold, cold month.


  2. - DuPage - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:31 am:

    Rauner trying to put distance between himself and Trump. No surprise.


  3. - very old soil - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:32 am:

    “Trump is an undisciplined political neophyte who loves the limelight and promises big changes, most of which appear either implausible or too vague to take seriously.”

    Sounds like Rauner except for the disciplined part.


  4. - Stones - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:32 am:

    We’ve seen what happens (or doesn’t happen) when you elect a Governor who has been successful in the private sector but has never held public office before. What is to be expected if we elect a President that way? At least Eisenhower had military experience.


  5. - Juvenal - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:33 am:

    === Umm. ===

    LOL.

    Well played.


  6. - A guy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:35 am:

    It’s Derby weekend. The jockeying isn’t unusual.


  7. - Oswego Willy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:36 am:

    Aw, that Tribune assessment of Trump is fun…

    … Rauner owning the Tribune’s Editorial Board keyboards allow blindspots by certain “weather-challenged” members.

    I just wish the Trubune Edit Board would just begin most Editorials with, “As required by the Rauner Press Shop, this is our alleged opinion”.

    “His appeal among disaffected Republican primary voters is intensely visceral: He arrived in Springfield a multi, multi-millionaire businessman in a hurry to get things done. After years of gridlock in Springfield, who doesn’t find the idea of an outsider appealing? […]

    Rauner is a rigidly political neophyte phony who loves the limelight with props and staged empathy and promises big changes, most of which appear either implausible or too vague to take seriously.”

    Right? Exactly Right.


  8. - MSIX - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:36 am:

    Rauner and the rest will still vote for him. Party fealty always trumps common sense. (Pun very much intended.)


  9. - Grandson of Man - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:37 am:

    “But Rauner aides stressed there are various levels of “support,” and that the governor would not be giving Trump a formal endorsement.”

    The political aspect of supporting Trump looks devastatingly bad. In a poll published yesterday, Clinton and Sanders lead Trump by an average of 15.5 points in North Carolina.

    Clinton and Sanders lead Trump by an average of 14.5 points in a recent national poll.


  10. - Delimma - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:39 am:

    This is pure political gamesmanship. If Trump had higher poll numbers with the groups that don’t like him, it is obvious that everyone on the right would be running to ride on his coat-tails. The question is whether these same people will embrace Trump as his numbers change in the future. If they do, then the distancing and embracing are just political actions of people who want to get elected. On the other hand, candidates who oppose the policies (such as they are) proposed by Trump regardless of his poll numbers at least have some conviction.


  11. - Thoughts Matter - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:40 am:

    Rich has earned the comment of the day in one word- umm.


  12. - Oswego Willy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:40 am:

    On the flip side…

    Thank goodness gracious, no Rauner, no Munger in Cleveland.

    Whatever Rauner, and especially Munger, can do to stay clear of Trump, that will leave the only negative Rauner himself, and quotes that link others to Rauner.

    Rauner doesn’t need any help being toxic to some of the Illinois electorate.


  13. - Thoughts Matter - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:41 am:

    Thinking it’s going to be very quiet inside the building in Cleveland, and very loud outside.


  14. - Wensicia - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:42 am:

    In rejecting Trump, how is this not a rejection of himself?


  15. - Delimma - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:42 am:

    The better question for the GOP is whether they plan on voting for Clinton because they don’t support Trump. If the answer is anything other than a resounding YES, then they are probably going to vote for Trump.


  16. - anon - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:45 am:

    Rauner just pulled the rug out from under GOP Chairman Schneider, who had also publicly committed to back the party nominee.


  17. - Bogey Golfer - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:45 am:

    My instinct tells me the GOP will attempt to “participate” in Trump’s running mate selection as a condition to the level it supports him. Gut feeling his if he is elected, he will resign before completing the term.


  18. - PublicServant - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:46 am:

    Oh I’d say the jockeying is anything but usual. Republican insiders, and Billionaire Bruce is one of them, want nothing to do with a Cleveland frathouse party that crowns The Donald their leader. Unfortunately, the ostensibly “Republican” base does want them to pay fealty to their choice, and they’ll be taking notes on those who dis their guy. Fun.


  19. - Lucky Pierre - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:46 am:

    Oswego Willy there is an opening to chair the Illinois Republican delegation


  20. - Oswego Willy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:47 am:

    ===Rauner just pulled the rug out from under GOP Chairman Schneider, who had also publicly committed to back the party nominee.===

    He could ask the HGOP Caucus about things like that re: K-12 funding…


  21. - Magic carpet ride - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:48 am:

    Trump and Rauner, two of the same all talk. They just love hearing how important they think they are. “I love the poorly educated” lol-Rauner does too imho.


  22. - bwana63 - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:49 am:

    Umm.

    We see what you did there, Rich. YUGE difference between the undisciplined political neophytes. YUGE!


  23. - Oswego Willy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:49 am:

    ===Oswego Willy there is an opening to chair the Illinois Republican delegation.===

    - Lucky Pierre -,

    I had - Norseman - (Campaign Manager Emeritus) to submit my application for one of the 12 open GOP delegate spots.

    I haven’t heard back yet. I think they may have the wrong email address. I’ll keep you posted.


  24. - Gruntled University Employee - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:53 am:

    Rauner is an undisciplined political neophyte who loves the limelight and promises big changes, most of which appear either implausible or too vague to take seriously.

    There, fixed it.


  25. - too obvious - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:55 am:

    The Illinois yokels are so clueless and out of touch.

    Rauner is in fact a drag on Trump.

    Rauner shouldn’t be going anywhere in any case. He’s not doing the job he was elected to do in Illinois, like submitting a balanced budget.


  26. - LizPhairTax - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:55 am:

    When the camera pans the convention floor and hits the Illinois delegation who will be there? Schneider has to go there? Will people have trump gear or just rock the elephant and make it clear they are taking one for the team?


  27. - Michelle Flaherty - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:58 am:

    So no hug?


  28. - Norseman - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:59 am:

    === While Rauner has dubbed the presidential campaign’s rhetoric “appalling,” … ===

    Rauner is an expert on appalling rhetoric. That’s his thing too.

    === … he has publicly stated — as the head of the state’s Republican Party — that he will support the nominee. ===

    Let’s run this quote several hundred times more before the election!

    === His appeal among disaffected Republican primary voters is intensely visceral … ===

    The Tribbies now about visceral appeal. They seek it with almost every editorial.


  29. - Anonymous - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:03 am:

    Rauner all pouty about Trump saying “Don’t know him”. Bruce takes his ball and goes home.


  30. - Oswego Willy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:03 am:

    - Norseman -

    Have you heard back from the ILGOP on my application to be a delegate? I thought we would’ve heard back by now…


  31. - Norseman - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:03 am:

    Willy, I don’t think they took us seriously. Following was the response from Goldberg:

    === LOL-LOL-LOL-LOL-LOL-LOL ===


  32. - 47th Ward - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:03 am:

    ===The jockeying isn’t unusual===

    Lol! Nothing unusual about leading Republicans running away from the Republican nominee for President. Happens all the time. The Republican Speaker of the House is not endorsing the Republican candidate for President. As usual, right A guy?

    I’m pretty sure you can’t type that stuff with a straight face, but if anyone can spin that hard and not throw up, it’s you.


  33. - Norseman - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:07 am:

    P.S. Rauner and the folks are going to miss out on a fabulous event. Trump is promising a very entertaining convention. There is one thing you can say about Trump, he is a good entertainer.


  34. - Northern pike - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:08 am:

    I believe a lot of republicans may just stay home this election, not wanting to vote for trump or Clinton. As for me, it will be my first election where I write in a candidate for president.


  35. - atsuishin - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:08 am:

    Trump puts many of the repub district in play. Many stalwarts wont show up to the polls. Madigan will probably end up with a 2/3’s majority. I don’t see how the senate can get much bluer but maybe a few get knocked off there.

    Bottom line trump= dem 2/3’s majority = massive tax hikes.


  36. - Oswego Willy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:08 am:

    - Norseman -

    So it wasn’t a “no”?

    Maybe you were right, the karaoke music video WAS too much… That’s my bad.


  37. - Anonymous - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:10 am:

    ‘promises big changes’ is a page right from the Obama and Rauner play books. Sanders also fits that description,


  38. - wordslinger - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:11 am:

    –The jockeying isn’t unusual.–

    Except for all the weird unprecedented parts, including the Tribbie edit board pronouncing the presumptive GOP nominee unqualified to be president — in May.

    That’s happened a lot, I take it, in your alternative universe.


  39. - Magic carpet rode - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:12 am:

    If only we could get Trump and Rauner to do the “polka” at the fair.
    lol


  40. - G'Kar - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:12 am:

    “The better question for the GOP is whether they plan on voting for Clinton because they don’t support Trump. If the answer is anything other than a resounding YES, then they are probably going to vote for Trump.”

    Or they could simply stay home. This seems to me to be more likely and it will hurt repubs lower down on the ballot.


  41. - Annonin' - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:13 am:

    Could Capt Fax or other BigBrain watchers help us file this development. Does it go under:
    1. Election nite phone calls
    2. Good Friday Massacre
    3. All of the above


  42. - wordslinger - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:16 am:

    –“But Rauner aides stressed there are various levels of “support,” –

    “I’ll do everything I can to work with that nominee,” sounds like the highest level of support.

    These guys should wear helmets, they spin so badly.


  43. - Saluki - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:17 am:

    I wonder how big of a donation I would need to make to Trump’s campaign for him to publicly endorse Rauner?


  44. - zatoichi - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:18 am:

    And I thought several months ago Rauner was eyeballing a VP look. Things change.


  45. - crazybleedingheart - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:19 am:

    Speaking of natiobal critiques of the GOP that have a special kind of resonance here in Rauner’s Illinois, don’t miss POTUS’ Flint speech. It all applies to our current chaos, but this was particularly apt this week (Can’t you just get private donations to cover your state contract?):

    “But volunteers don’t build county water systems and keep lead from leaching into our drinking glasses. We can’t rely on faith groups to reinforce bridges and repave runways at the airport. We can’t ask second-graders, even ones as patriotic as Isiah Britt who raised all that money, to raise enough money to keep our kids healthy.”


  46. - Mongo - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:20 am:

    Crud…if Trump wins, does that mean he’ll hire superstars like Goldberg and CK??


  47. - Anonymous - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:22 am:

    Why settle for VP any longer. Now he may just run for Pres in 2020.


  48. - Angry Republican - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:24 am:

    I just assumed Rauner is going to be busy with the special session of the legislature in July.


  49. - 47th Ward - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:26 am:

    From the Economist:

    “During its 160-year history, the Republican Party has abolished slavery, provided the votes in Congress to pass the Civil Rights Act and helped bring the cold war to a close. The next six months will not be so glorious. After Indiana’s primary, it is now clear that Republicans will be led into the presidential election by a candidate who said he would kill the families of terrorists, has encouraged violence by his supporters, has a weakness for wild conspiracy theories and subscribes to a set of protectionist and economically illiterate policies that are by turns fantastical and self-harming.”

    “The result could be disastrous for the Republican Party and, more important, for America. Even if this is as far as he goes, Mr Trump has already done real damage and will do more in the coming months.”

    Ouch.


  50. - Anonymous - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:31 am:

    “Rauner is an undisciplined political neophyte …”

    I wish I could come up with another word for neophyte. Neophyte implies a willingness or ability to learn. Neither of which 1.4% has demonstrated during his term as governor.


  51. - Mama - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:36 am:

    I think Rauner should appoint Rich Miller to go in his place.


  52. - Mama - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:37 am:

    ==Wensicia - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 9:42 am:==

    You made a good point.


  53. - Liberty - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:37 am:

    Always been team Rauner not Team Republican.


  54. - Oswego Willy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:42 am:

    ===Always been team Rauner not Team Republican.===

    While it’s true, Rauner IS a Raunerite, Trump does not speak for the GOP, as Trump is NOW the GOP Nominee.

    Both Rauner and Trump… The ILGOP and the National GOP let these two strangers in our houses. Elections have consequences.

    I’m just grateful Rauner isn’t going to Cleveland. Rauner himself is a big enough albatross.


  55. - wordslinger - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:44 am:

    47, be fair, and give Trump some credit — he’s hot on the trail of Oswald’s fellow conspirators.


  56. - Hit or Miss - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:46 am:

    With Rauner, the head of the party in Illinois, not endorsing Donald Trump this looks bad for Kirk and the rest ticket.


  57. - A guy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:47 am:

    === The Republican Speaker of the House is not endorsing the Republican candidate for President. As usual, right A guy?===

    Let’s see where we are in July. No matter what, the other party is going to have Hillary. That’s no prize for them.


  58. - Oswego Willy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:49 am:

    - A Guy -

    Your “Team Trump”?

    That’s fun.


  59. - Mr How Ironic - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 10:57 am:

    Maybe Trump will “Shake Up DC” and nominate David Duke as his running mate….


  60. - Mama - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 11:02 am:

    Just because Rauner publically states he isn’t going to the RNC, doesn’t actually mean he won’t be there.


  61. - Wensicia - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 11:09 am:

    Trump: “Rauner said what? But on the phone he agreed to meet with me in Cleveland!”


  62. - A guy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 11:18 am:

    OW, I’m a GOP precinct captain. I had a different favorite before. That person left the race over a month ago. I despise the alternative. I’m supporting my party’s nominee. I have 98% of the time. I’m as much a Trump guy as I was a Romney guy. As a precinct captain, you’re biggest influence is much closer to home where people get less information on candidates further down the ballot. That’s always my focus. We’ve got a chance to snag a couple of seats in my district(s). That’s where the energy is going.


  63. - Oswego Willy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 11:39 am:

    ===I’m supporting my party’s nominee.===

    You support Trump.

    Got it.

    The rest is frivolous bluster. It was a sinple question I asked. You answered;

    You support Trump.


  64. - anon - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 11:45 am:

    A guy
    If Trump proves as unpopular in Illinois as Rauner and others think he will, then you can count on the Dems running against the Trump/Rep. So-and-So ticket. They will send out pictures of Trump with the targeted GOP legislators. Kind of how Republicans did with Blago and Todd Stroger back in ‘08.


  65. - My New Handle - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 11:53 am:

    Far scarier than Trump is that he got the votes that he did.


  66. - How Ironic - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 11:58 am:

    @ OW,

    Can we get a sneak peek at “Dad’s Home State - Convention Week”? Or is there even enough material to make an episode?


  67. - Original Rambler - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 12:02 pm:

    Trump? Heck, I got two robocalls the other day tying my incumbent GOP state representative to Denny Hastert!


  68. - Oswego Willy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 12:11 pm:

    ===Can we get a sneak peek at “Dad’s Home State - Convention Week”? Or is there even enough material to make an episode?===

    - How Ironic -

    Here’s a taste…

    Bruce looks out his windows, peeking through curtains as not to be seen…

    Diana prepares her binder of Philadelphia tourists spots for the next week…

    Diana’s State Employee is on a two-week pre-planned vacation

    Lance tweets pictures of Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees to Rep. Lang from the Chicago Hiuse of Blues…

    Goldberg writes a letter to the Ohio Turnpike about crippling tourism…

    “ck” emails a list Chicago rankings and touts “stay-cation” initiative…

    Something like that is being bantered about in the Writers’ Room


  69. - Mama - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 1:16 pm:

    If Hillary teams up with Bernie as her vice, she will have no problem winning.


  70. - downstater - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 1:16 pm:

    I think this is all overblown. Does the average voter really care who attends the conventions? I sure don’t.


  71. - Mama - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 1:23 pm:

    Can anyone tell me why people voted for Trump?

    If Trump is our next president. I can only hope congress can take away the president’s executive orders before Trump takes office.


  72. - A guy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 2:19 pm:

    Mama (btw, happy mama’s day) Why not go ahead and wish that presidential executive orders are taken away now? No one’s used them like the current guy.


  73. - wordslinger - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 2:35 pm:

    –Why not go ahead and wish that presidential executive orders are taken away now? No one’s used them like the current guy.–

    LOL, just can’t help yourself, can you? You hear Pavlov’s bell, and the talk-radio conditioned response is immediate.

    Shockingly, your statement has no basis in reality.

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php


  74. - 47th Ward - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 2:41 pm:

    ===No one’s used them like the current guy.===

    Wait, I thought you said you were just a precinct captain. Why are you impersonating Michael Beschloss?

    Quit while you’re behind. You’ve already been proven wrong once already on this thread. Changing the topic hasn’t helped your credibility either.


  75. - East Central Illinois - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 3:16 pm:

    The presidential campaign will be just like the Illinois’ past governor race - - an election where voters do not want either candidate. Unfortunately for Illinois, the one with the most $$ won. For the nation . . . who knows.

    No matter which one wins in November - the country loses, in my opinion.


  76. - A guy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 3:39 pm:

    Sling, focus on “like”, not the number of times. 47, pick up some couth. You’re out of it.


  77. - A guy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 3:46 pm:

    I was thinking back to the time when so many were sure that Rauner would lose. Some believed it wouldn’t even be close. Naturally, this is his first and only term if you read here. What if Trump does win? Will the self-righteousness reach even new heights?

    I am a precinct captain. And, I’ve seen this coming while talking to people this past cycle. It’s impossible here (on CF) to not sense the dissatisfaction of the current Gov. If you spend any time at all working precincts, it would be even more impossible to not pick up on how angry people are in this state about just about everything. It’s only a surprise if you’re paying absolutely no attention. Trump has a serious chance of winning and actually helping the ticket here. People are ticked.


  78. - wordslinger - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 4:05 pm:

    –Sling, focus on “like”, not the number of times.–

    What do you mean?


  79. - Oswego Willy - Friday, May 6, 16 @ 4:24 pm:

    - A Guy -

    And… you support Donald Trump.

    Don’t forget that.


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