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Last one, or a long way to go?
Tuesday, Mar 4, 2008 - Posted by Rich Miller * I’ve been trying to avoid posting more than a handful Obama stories lately. You can find that stuff on other blogs. But, there’s a lot of interest in tonight’s primaries, so here’s a handy news feed to help you keep up with things… * Check out Taegan Goddard’s wrap-up of late Texas polls. Clinton leads Obama in every one of them. Obama has been trying to downplay expectations for days, and that could be why. Meanwhile, Slate has a piece up about some super delegates who could be changing sides very soon. Slate also has this somewhat coincidental video. * Also, don’t forget to keep track of The Hotline’s political blog tonight, which is a news partner. The Quorum Report in Texas is also a member of the Hotline Network and is worth a look this evening. Gongwer News Service in Ohio is a partner in our Midwest Politics site. * A pal asks whether there are any primary watching events tonight in Springfield. Can you give her some help? * Please, try to be nice to each other. Presidential politics brings out the crazy in people more than just about anything else. * You should be able to find results at this link.
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- Ghost - Tuesday, Mar 4, 08 @ 3:43 pm:
Clinton sense of entitlement will lead to her staying in long past the time for her to quit and do nothing but damage the dem party and Obama when he does run for pres. Rush Limbaugh has been urging republicans to cross over and vote for HRC so that she can continue to help undermine Obama.
She did not just lose 11 states after super tuesday, she lost many by huge margins. Winning today is not enough ,she needs to deliver large margins to truly be viable. Howerver she would rather take the party down and put McCain in office then give up power. Her courting of the superdelegates to not follow the majority voters says it all. She wants the smokey back room powermaking to put her in place at the expense of the voters choice.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Mar 4, 08 @ 3:51 pm:
I really think that Obama needs to win at least one of the two big states tonight. If Sen. Clinton wins both Texas and Ohio, even by small margins, I don’t think she’ll ever get out of the race.
- Ghost - Tuesday, Mar 4, 08 @ 4:08 pm:
I agree, I do not see her leaving the race. Unfortunetly this may do irreperable harm to Obama and his canidacy after the primary. Nice article at newsweek which epxlains that even if she wins all of the 16 remianingprimaries, and with strong margins in several, she still falls roughly 58 delegates short of what Obama will have. http://www.newsweek.com/id/118240 I would have more repsect for HRC if whe would bow out gracefully. She lost too many priomaries by huge margins and needs to recognize the fight is over.
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Mar 4, 08 @ 4:15 pm:
I agree that Barack needs to win a big state other than Illinois. Dems have to be a little uneasy that he’s built much of his lead in states that usually go red in November.
The inevitable national media smackdown against Barack has begun. Whether it’s enough for Hillary, who knows.
Prediction: She wins Texas and Ohio and stays. Next, Pennsylvania, and what to do about Michigan and Florida. Could be a whale of a convention.
- Napoleon has left the building - Tuesday, Mar 4, 08 @ 4:17 pm:
Rich - you may have posted this before but CNN.com’s political page has a very cool interactive map that shows state by state and county by county how much money the presidential candidates have gotten from which places, etc. Here’s the link:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/map/
- Deep South - Tuesday, Mar 4, 08 @ 4:18 pm:
There are news reports late this afternoon that indicate Obama believes the race will continue on through the next few primaries. I think he probably has seen late polls in Ohio and Texas and now believes that Hillary will probably win at least one of them. My sources say Ohio is in the bag for Hillary and that Texas is still a toss up.
- oh bah mah - Tuesday, Mar 4, 08 @ 4:38 pm:
This will continue. Hillary didn’t file a full slate of delegates in Penn., so that may come back to hurt her. http://campaignspot.nationalrevi
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GNmOTA4ZDVjNWEyZmU5NmJlMTI=
Rich, in Springfield, we may need a snow plow to get to any result watching parties tonight…
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Mar 4, 08 @ 5:05 pm:
Usually good source says exit polling has Clinton with slight lead over Obama in both Texas and Ohio. But this can’t be confirmed, so I’m just passing it along in comments here.
- Levois - Tuesday, Mar 4, 08 @ 8:09 pm:
I think Bush needs to stay out of this one. That’s just my opinion. I guess McCain doesn’t have that disdain for Bush anymore.
- Holdingontomywallet - Tuesday, Mar 4, 08 @ 8:58 pm:
I predict Hillary will win by narrow margins in Texas and Ohio, which still doesn’t change the delegate count much. With the press finally asking some tough questions to Obama, the race gets very close and they have a mess at the convention. It has surprised me to see Obama get a little tongue-tied when he has been questioned recently about Rezko and NAFTA. He got a little testy last night when the press wanted him to answer more the “eight questions.”
- Bookworm - Tuesday, Mar 4, 08 @ 9:57 pm:
If Huckabee does not become McCain’s running mate, I would like to see him host a talk show… he’d be much more enjoyable to listen to than Limbaugh and Hannity, whom I cannot stand for more than five minutes (and I consider myself pretty conservative).
- He makes Ryan look like a Saint - Tuesday, Mar 4, 08 @ 9:57 pm:
HRC gets Ohio. Not really a shocker.
- Bud Man - Wednesday, Mar 5, 08 @ 12:44 am:
Not a good night for Obama.
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Mar 5, 08 @ 12:45 am:
Nope.
- Westerson - Wednesday, Mar 5, 08 @ 3:34 am:
When they showed Obama’a speech, notice they focused tightly on him, and not on the crowd, which was reported to be very sparse by his standards.
At first I thought people might finally be getting tired of his shtick, but then I realized they’re probably still caucusing.
- VanillaMan - Wednesday, Mar 5, 08 @ 8:54 am:
Even with all the media hype at this back and a non-stop drum beat by the press for her to give up her campaign, voters have said they are not yet willing to choose Obama over Clinton.
He can’t close the deal. Neither one of them will have enough delegates.
Obama is a BIG loser tonight. Play the “he’s still ahead” game, but you can’t buy the press he has been getting since winning 11 primaries in a row. Even with all those tongue-baths, Clinton still won.
He has a problem.
- Punley Dieter Finn - Wednesday, Mar 5, 08 @ 3:52 pm:
Last night Hillary reminded me of Bette Davis as Margo Channing in “All About Eve,” “fasten your seatbelts; it’s going to be a bumpy night.” Barack is her Eve Harrington. And Chris Matthews does a nice turn as Addington deWitt. In the end, our ingenue will win the Oscar for best performance.