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Question of the day
Thursday, Feb 28, 2013 - Posted by Rich Miller * A Reuters lede…
One of Madigan’s amendments, which would’ve raised the retirement age to 67, received just a single vote today. Another amendment which would’ve increased employee contributions by five percentage points, received three votes. A proposal to eliminate COLAs until the pension funds are 80 percent funded got five votes. * The Question: Tomorrow’s lede? And, to be clear, I’m not trying to pick on Reuters here. They do good work. We’re just having a little fun, OK? Thanks.
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- Anonymous - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:20 pm:
Tentative contract with AFSCME “Months Away”
- The unknown poster - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:23 pm:
Madigan unanimous in his support of pension changes
- bONGO FURRY - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:26 pm:
ENTIRE ILLINOIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY SENT TO BED WITHOUT SUPPER.
- 47th Ward - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:26 pm:
Illinois ain’t ready for pension reform.
Seriously, I think Madigan’s plan here was as much about sending the Commercial Club and the Civic Committee a message as it was sending the unions a message.
Paging Ty Fahner: Please pick up the white courtesy phone.
- Arthur Andersen - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:27 pm:
Nekritz argues eloquently for changes to Illinois Pensions
- Anonymour - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:27 pm:
Waiting for Godot.
- WhoKnew - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:28 pm:
Shades of Blago’s Value Added Tax!
- WazUp - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:30 pm:
Madigan- 9 Quinn - 0
- Arthur Andersen - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:30 pm:
Steve Brown: I’ve seen worse!
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:32 pm:
GENERALISSIMO FRANCISCO FRANCO IS STILL DEAD
- Hyperbolic Chamber - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:37 pm:
“Following assertions of gross ineptitude, Rueters has fired its lede writer…”
- Give Me A Break - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:40 pm:
Reform Minded Lawmakers Can’t Locate Green Buttons
- Wensicia - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:50 pm:
The fire fizzles and dies out.
- Liberty_First - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 2:56 pm:
I hate it when journalists use the spelling lede…..
- Ruby - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 3:04 pm:
Illinois House Republicans refuse to vote on Madigan’s four pension reform bills.
- Irish - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 3:16 pm:
Dependent upon whether MJM was playing a game, trying to prove a point, or really asking for an up or down vote the lede could be different.
On one hand “Mushrooms think on their own.”
Or “Mushrooms follow Speaker’s lead.”
- Anonymour - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 3:18 pm:
Mushrooms do not like direct sunlight.
- Meaningless - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 3:19 pm:
Can Madigan vote 5 times?
- RMD - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 3:19 pm:
Madigan’s pension proposals not as draconian as first thought. House members realize that they don’t go far enough…need stronger measures to solve the problem.
- Jake From Elwood - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 3:23 pm:
Illinois Governor Patrick Quinn (D) set the fashion world ablaze with his purple striped tie collection now available at K-Mart and Super 8 hotel locations.
- Just the Facts - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 3:30 pm:
Madigan Lights Fire Under Lawmakers to Reform Pensions, Republicans Flee the Building
- Dana Heupel - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 3:32 pm:
@LibertyAs an old news guy (I hate the word “journalist” — never kept a journal), I can give you the origination: Back in the days when presses used metal plates, if you marked a story “lead,” it meant to put more lead (the metal) in between lines to make the story a bit longer to fill a hole. Thus, “lede” was used for the beginning of the story to distinguish it from the process used to lead a story.
- wordslinger - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 3:41 pm:
==And, to be clear, I’m not trying to pick on Reuters here. They do good work==
Can’t go with you there. Reuters is pretty weak in Chicago and Illinois.
Definitely not the A-Team here.
- Cincinnatus - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 3:42 pm:
“Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan lit a fire under the state’s tepid public pension reform efforts on Wednesday, introducing measures that would mean harsh changes for public sector workers.”
This much of a flame…
- Soon to retire - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 3:46 pm:
Is there any way to get Quinn, Madigan, and Cross to listen to Ralph Martire? He has some good ideas that would work…. with out cutting the throats of retirees.
- Anonymous - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 3:47 pm:
Yesterday was basically an up day for Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan.
- Six Degrees of Separation - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 3:58 pm:
What is the name for the award for those bills that get 100 votes against?
- not surprised - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 4:14 pm:
“Republicans Reveal Novel Solution on Pensions”
-Ingenious Legislative Tactics Leave even longtime observers in awe!
- PublicServant - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 4:17 pm:
Illinois Legislature to focus on non-Pension Source to Fund Programs
- Roadiepig - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 4:20 pm:
Ruby- great one
- Liberty_First - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 4:38 pm:
Hi Dana, I’ve heard that story about not confusing it with leading space but I have a lot of doubts…. I can’t find an actual reference but if you know one, I would love to find it…
- Sunshine - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 4:47 pm:
Madigan pleased with vote. Can’t count past 5 anyway.
- Dana Heupel - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 4:48 pm:
Liberty — Here’s a New York Times explanation of lede. http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/about-the-lede/ And I can testify from personal experience at my first two newspaper jobs that leading a story was an instruction the editor wrote to the newspaper press room to stretch it out. I sometimes miss the days of “hot type.” Printers were cool people.
- quincy - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 5:15 pm:
Ruby how about the 50 plus No Votes are they gutles or what. CAST A VOTE YES OR NO
- CircularFiringSquad - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 5:40 pm:
Author was trying to hype excitment — not in the picture. Nearly as lame as Billboard Cross endorsing Jack Franks calls for Committee of the Whole. The move barely edged Crackpot GmanJim “cut off my gun” and odd Nazi story from Dwight Kay as Sloppy GOPie Comments of the week
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 5:52 pm:
REPORT: MARCH WILL BE SOON UPON US
- Liberty_First - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 6:02 pm:
Dana - http://howardowens.com/2011/09/18/lede-vs-lead/
- Mama - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 6:21 pm:
Madigan wins - with a union contract agreement!
- Arthur Andersen - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 6:26 pm:
“POLITICO” Reports Speaker Madigan May Regret Pension Bills
- Gannt Chart - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 7:06 pm:
Speaker’s wet book of matches fails to ignite a fire under the state’s tepid public pension reform efforts.
- One to the Dome - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 7:56 pm:
The first time in history a member who could have been a 3 time Century Club member in one day… and the General Assembly fails to even do that! All is lost…
- RNUG - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 8:23 pm:
I can’t believe someone hasn’t suggested this lede yet:
“Life squeezed out of pension reform”
- wordslinger - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 9:18 pm:
Tomorrow’s Lede:
“Hawks Beat Blues; Unbeaten After 21″
- steve schnorf - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 9:36 pm:
“Dewey Wins”
- wordslinger - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 9:59 pm:
LOL, for the record Schnorf, the Colonel’s headline, which he personally insisted upon, was:
“Dewey Defeats Truman”
- DanL60 - Thursday, Feb 28, 13 @ 10:02 pm:
@RNUG Squeezy lives!
- archimedes - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 8:47 am:
Just as Florida had their Burmese Python Contest, Illinois to launch Squeezy Hunt Contest. Citizens are encouraged to hunt down and capture all Sqeezies, known to hide out in the wilds of Springfield, local schools, universities, and judicial chambers. The citizen with the largest Squeezie will receive an annuity guaranteed by the State Constitution for the rest of their life, or the next legislative session - whichever lasts longer.
- jimbo60666 - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 12:44 pm:
Politics makes the state of ILL-inois ILL. Pension abuse, higher taxes and fees, corrupt political system, crime, murder, and failed “social” reforms and experiments. ILL-INOIS- 98 billion dollars in unfunded pension debt, 40 years of Democraptic legislative “leadership” and Repubs collusion has left the finances of the state in tatters. More people leave Illinois and move to other states than enter from other states. Between 1995 and 2009, Illinois lost 366,616 households, representing 806,054 people, to other states. From 1995 through 2009, Illinois lost $26.3 billion in AGI. 2011 Projected Loss: 27,000 more people . “Economist Nathaniel Karp says Illinois’ tax structure and loss of manufacturing jobs will be pushing people out of the state this year.”