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Raw audio of Poshard argument
Friday, Mar 1, 2013 - Posted by Rich Miller * I told you yesterday about a major public dustup between SIU President Glenn Poshard and former SIU Trustee Chairman Roger Herrin, who was backed by Gov. Pat Quinn, but who then began attacking Poshard. Pres. Poshard eventually engineered Herrin’s ouster with the cooperation of several trustees, and then Quinn tried to replace three of those trustees, only to watch the Senate unanimously reject all three of the governor’s replacements earlier this week. Anyway, WSIU has posted raw audio of the argument between the two men. Because of today’s session, I haven’t been able to listen to much of the recording, but it may contain profanity, so beware if you’re in an office that discourages such things… You might need to give it a few seconds to load, and then help us document the exchange in comments. Don’t use profanity, however. That would be wrong. Thanks. * Coverage roundup…
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- hisgirlfriday - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 12:55 pm:
Thanks for making my alma maters administration look less dysfunctional, foolish and petty. Love, u of I alumnus
- I was there... - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 1:20 pm:
I was there….there was no profanity.
- siriusly - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 1:36 pm:
I am listening to the audio, it’s one of the silliest things I’ve ever heard.
Add in the Chicago State University madness, with Emil Jones running around telling Board members that they shouldn’t fire Watson and this is a really fun day to watch our tax dollars at work at these two fine public colleges.
- Liberty First - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 1:56 pm:
Chicago State a fine school? Check out the ACT score range:
25-75 percentile
ACT Composite: 16 / 19
ACT English: 15 / 20
ACT Math: 15 / 17
- Midstate Indy - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 2:01 pm:
Only heard one instance of profanity at the 36:56 mark. But my favorite point is about 37:05 - it’s really brilliant to hear a board chair tell a president to “put your big boy pants on…”
Dustup? Yes. Much below the surface other than disgruntled grumblings of two old men? Not that I could tell.
- JoeVerdeal - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 2:04 pm:
I listened to the entire audio file. I heard no actual profanity.
That said, what I did hear reminds me of a situation where rival gorillas are fighting to decide who is dominant male of the gorilla troop. In the zoo, such situations require that the gorillas be shuffled to avoid undue conflict and injury.
In the case of this particular set of gorillas, I believe that the best solution would be to “shuffle the monkeys” by removing both of these old silverbacks from their offices.
I have encountered both of these guys in social situations. They seem to be quite worthy. Unfortunately, they are toxic when placed in the same “cage” and the whole situation has made them unstable and aggressive towards one another and towards other board members.
The Governor needs to clean out the barn by getting rid of both of them. SIU is too important for this sort of turmoil. Find better (and preferably younger) managers.
- Arthur Andersen - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 2:25 pm:
Herrin’s grip on reality occasionally sounds a bit tenuous. AA would have his bunion checked somewhere else, just sayin’.
One of the best exchanges occurs in the final two minutes as Herrin is pointing out that he has served on public boards for 40 years, free of conflict, until he went on SIU and met up with his “friend” Poshard. He specifically names one Board Director who thought he was a heckuva guy and great Trustee.
Poshard responds, with no emotion in his voice, that the Director Herrin mentioned was convicted of lying to the FBI and fraud. That’s when Herrin said it was time to wrap up.
- Small Town Liberal - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 2:27 pm:
- removing both of these old silverbacks from their offices. -
Personally I think it’s good to have a board and a president butting heads, neither should be able to steamroll the other. Having one be a rubber stamp for the other is more detrimental to the university, in my opinion.
- jake - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 3:23 pm:
Once again, Pat Quinn demonstrating his genius for creating a situation full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. This all started because Quinn decided to remove trustees who would not elect Herrin chair, and escalated because he refused to meet with Senators who were concerned about the situation. So the Governor added to his list of enemies with nothing to show for it. He should reappoint the Trustees he dumped to cut his losses. Otherwise this situation will fester for a long time, because he has no leverage to force the Senate to confirm the nominees he has put forth. That being said, Poshard did not cover himself with glory by engaging in this nasty back-and-forth, but of the three—Quinn, Herrin, and Poshard–Poshard has been the least childish and unreasonable.
- Small Town Liberal - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 3:29 pm:
- Poshard has been the least childish and unreasonable. -
Please, he accused Roger Herrin of criminal activity, has anyone else stooped to that level?
Why is a university president injecting himself into the selection of board members? The board exists to balance the authority, Poshard would prefer to dictate instead.
- Rich Miller - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 3:40 pm:
===Why is a university president injecting himself into the selection of board members?===
Because a certain board member tried to do everything he could to get rid of Poshard, that’s why.
Ultimately, Poshard will probably lose this fight. But up until now Quinn has made nothing but bad moves.
- Small Town Liberal - Friday, Mar 1, 13 @ 4:07 pm:
Rich, depends on who you believe. I think Poshard just doesn’t want his authority questioned.