34 Comments - BehindTheScenes - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:29 am: 30 more days?? Is Quinn a slow reader or what? - Anon - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:32 am: Ridiculous. The state gets 180 days and needs 30 more. Then 180 to implement, which I’m sure they will need and request an additional 90 to accomplish. Gah I wish I could taste the liberal tears when this is all done. Just delaying the inevitable. - Jechislo - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:33 am: It’s Chicago. I mean Illinois. - RonOglesby - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:33 am: — No further extensions to stay the court’s mandate will be granted. — thats all that matters. - Slick Willy - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:34 am: I agree. It has to be based on the press of other business. What bothers me is that they had six months to make it happen. Granted, Quinn did not have a part in the negotiations, but still, it seems a bit silly. Does Quinn expect the legislature to change any of the provisions of a bill that was contested by both sides? Hopefully not. If he does not sign the bill, then Constitutional carry comes into effect. So why not just sign it and move on to more important things? - wordslinger - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:38 am: –It’s Chicago. I mean Illinois.– So which is it? The same court that tossed the state law paving the way for conceal-carry is now a bunch of Chicago/Illinois hacks because they grant a 30-day stay? That’s gratitude for you. - Fred's Mustache - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:42 am: Anyone familiar at all with how the court system works (especially the federal system) would know that this is not a controversial decision. Move along, nothing to see here. - Small Town Liberal - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:43 am: - Gah I wish I could taste the liberal tears when this is all done. - Well, wouldn’t that be a nice change of pace from us constantly tasting all of yours over this issue. - dupage dan - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:43 am: Stop whining about 30 days. This is a done deal no matter what PQ does. The bill was passed with veto proof majorities. If PQ vetos part or all he can be overturned. Messy business, democracy. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:46 am: Speaking of gratitude and paving the way, perhaps I’ve missed the “thank yous” from the c-c advocates to Mary Shepard. Without her bravery and courage of conviction to pursue change in the public arena after being the victim of a terrible crime, you all wouldn’t be in the position today of complaining about a 30-day stay. I don’t think anyone has dared accuse her of being a “prop” or “being used” for taking her life experience and seeking change in public policy. - MrJM - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:47 am: “Thirty days,/em>? But I’m mad NOW!” http://goo.gl/5U44v – MrJM - unclesam - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:47 am: HB 183 still has not yet been certified by the legislature and sent to Quinn for review and action — so I think the additional 30 days is reasonable. However, it does allow Quinn additional time to overthink the issue. - circular firing squad - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:49 am: CousinBrucey just on with Kassamoron to say he in. they. forgot. to ask. about. his gay. marriage. referendum - Small Town Taxpayer - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:58 am: “What bothers me is that they had six months to make it happen.” It is very true that they had six months. On the other hand, how long have they been working on the pension issue? After years there is still no solution to the problem and may not be for months(?) or even years(?) to come. “Does Quinn expect the legislature to change any of the provisions of a bill that was contested by both sides?” Changes by the GA are not too probable in my view. I hope however that Quinn will make changes to the bill on his own. The section on page 10 lines 19 to 21 about the Concealed Carry Licensing Review Board states “(h) Meetings of the Board shall not be subject to the Open Meetings Act and records of the Board shall not be subject to the Freedom of Information Act.” I see this section as a prime candidate for change. If it remains in the bill then one must ask what is so secret that all record of it must be kept from the public? What is being hidden by this section? Why is it being hidden? - John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:06 am: >>>>> Speaking of gratitude and paving the way, perhaps I’ve missed the “thank yous” from the c-c advocates to Mary Shepard. Yes, you did miss it. This is not the venue to offer thanks and praise to Mary Shepard, she does not lurk here among the politicos and wordsharks. About 8500 people thanked her in person in Springfield 3 months ago. - Todd - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:18 am: I called Mary right after to the vote to tell her the news and say thanks for all she had done. - Tam 212 - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:20 am: >>>Gah I wish I could taste the liberal tears when this is all done. Just delaying the inevitable. —- Don’t forget, Madigan requested and was granted an extension to appeal the 7th Circuit’s ruling about a month ago. She has until June 23rd to file an appeal to SCOTUS. - Chicago Cynic - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:22 am: I just don’t know what 30 days is going to do. If PQ vetoes, there’s no time to get an override vote in veto session so they’d have to call a special. Just don’t see that happening or any desire to re-litigate this issue now. - Slick Willy - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:25 am: *** Changes by the GA are not too probable in my view. I hope however that Quinn will make changes to the bill on his own. The section on page 10 lines 19 to 21 about the Concealed Carry Licensing Review Board states *** Agreed. However, at the most, such a change should take less than a week. *** On the other hand, how long have they been working on the pension issue? After years there is still no solution to the problem and may not be for months(?) or even years(?) to come. *** So the courts should enable the legislatures’ continued dysfunction? Not meaning to argue, just sayin… - downstater - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:27 am: July 9th-Just enough time for another good killing weekend on the South Side. - In the know - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:28 am: Now the political football shifts back to Quinn. Does he 1)veto the bill( more likely an AV to add stuff the gun control people want) to set himself apart from LM or 2) sign the bill to the dismay of the uber progressive who are perhaps his only base or 3) do nothing until after the 30 days and force Lisa to act (remembering the june 23rd deadline). from a Democratic partisan primary perspective, how does he positively differentiate himself from LM? He can’t win downstate and the numbers don’t move the needle as much as the gun control crowd in Chicago and the burbs anyway. policy aside (and I think a veto is bad) this is tee’d up perfectly for a “rewrite/do-right” option. - Plutocrat03 - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:47 am: meh, 30 days extension is an annoyance, but no big deal. I wonder what the real end game will be. - downstate commissioner - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:49 am: C’mon, did anyone expect anything else to come out of this request? 60 days is the norm, 30 days was requested and granted; while I believe that Quinn already knows what he is going to do,the request is just routine. It actually seems reasonable to me, and I have wanted to be able to carry a gun for years. The only thing surprising was the that last sentence saying there would be NO further Stays…. - downstate commissioner - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:52 am: What I want to know is-Did Quinn requests this from his “state attorney” Lisa, or did she do it on her own? If she did it on her own, is there some kind of political angle to it? - Confused - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 11:00 am: “Speaking of gratitude and paving the way, perhaps I’ve missed the “thank yous” from the c-c advocates to Mary Shepard.” Many of us have thanked her personally and in writing. - dupage dan - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 11:15 am: === About 8500 people thanked her in person in Springfield 3 months ago === And word missed that? - John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 11:43 am: >>>>> And word missed that? I did not see him there. Mary Shepard was hard to miss. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SpswYt2Ak9I/UToT3Z_Ue0I/AAAAAAAACks/mU05Suic51c/s1600/shepard.JPG - wordslinger - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 11:53 am: –>>>>> And word missed that? I did not see him there. Mary Shepard was hard to miss.– JJ, I was the real good-looking guy. As you know, I was referring to all the attaboys that have been passed out on this blog to the NRA, Phelps, et. al for c-c passage (none for MJM, curiously, who put it over the top). Mary Shepard has received very few mentions here in the last few months, even though it was her bravery in the wake a terrible crime that got the ball rolling. If you and DD are sensitive to that omission, I fully understand. But, then again, a lot of folks here believe that those who take their life experience and use it to influence public policy on guns are just “being used as props.” - dupage dan - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 12:37 pm: Show us my quote, word, where I passed on any kudos to anybody about this issue. This was a team effort all the way. I don’t know many of those who worked behind the scenes or at the public events because this isn’t my life’s work. Just thought your poke was another boring word post seeking to rile folks up. Didn’t work. End of story. - Todd - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 12:40 pm: I’m sure a ringing endorsement of MJM from me is just what he wants. . . I’ll even bet it’s on his Christmas list. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 12:41 pm: – Just thought your poke was another boring word post seeking to rile folks up. Didn’t work. End of story.– And I thought it was to point out the bravery of the woman who got the ball rolling. But you can take it however you want, dude. - Jim - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 3:20 pm: Isn’t it Joel Flaum, not Joe Flaum? - countyline - Thursday, Jun 6, 13 @ 9:11 am: Pretty simple really, Mary is using her experience to restore our constitutional rights, certain east coast liberals are using theirs to restrict them - big difference. - Hardcore Sex - Tuesday, Jun 25, 13 @ 5:29 am: I needed to draft you that little remark in order to say thanks yet again about the lovely guidelines you have discussed here. 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