Question of the day
Wednesday, Jun 5, 2013 - Posted by Rich Miller
* I’m doing a thing with Jim Edgar tomorrow night. From a press release…
WHAT: Former Illinois Governor Jim Edgar will join a panel of distinguished guests to discuss how the economic, social & political differences between Chicago and the rest of the state present challenges for the governance of Illinois.
WHEN: Thursday, June 6, 2013 at 7 p.m.
WHERE: UIS Brookens Auditorium, located on the lower level of Brookens Library
DETAILS: This panel discussion will explore how the perceived division between Chicago and the rest of Illinois is affecting state leadership and decision making, public perceptions of governmental effectiveness, and political and social operations.
Edgar will be joined by Chicago Sun-Times columnist and Capitol Fax newsletter publisher Rich Miller, UIS Political Science Professor Christopher Mooney, and Chicago Metropolitan Agency for Planning Executive Director Randy Blankenhorn.
Be there or be square.
* In the meantime, let’s have a little fun with the guy. Here’s a 1994 photo of opening day with the former governor and Hillary Clinton…
* The Question: Caption?
* Yesterday’s winner was 47th Ward…
But it’s so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of Madigan: is he the sort of man who would put the poison pill into his own pension reform bill or his enemy’s? Now, a clever man would put the poison pill into his own bill, because he would know that only a great fool would pass what the House sent over. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the bill the House passed. But he must have known I was not a great fool, he would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the bill in front of me.
- shore - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:12 pm:
will this be livestreamed?
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:14 pm:
No, but it will be taped.
- Just Me - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:15 pm:
distinguished guest? They must have you confused with Oscar.
- Just Me - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:15 pm:
(by the way, that’s a joke. Don’t ban me!)
- Phenomynous - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:18 pm:
“First Lady Hilary Clinton instructs Governor Edgar and the Chicago Cubs bullpen on how to throw a ball. Interestingly, the Cubs are still using the Clinton Model of Pitching today.”
- bored now - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:19 pm:
thought bubble (over edgar’s head): you throw like a girl, but punch like a real man…
- Former Titan - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:19 pm:
Noonan!
- Whatever - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:22 pm:
Kirk Dillard: “Wait, shouldn’t Edgar by standing at MY side??”
- Whatever - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:25 pm:
Sorry…meant “…be standing…”
- Formerly Known As... - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:26 pm:
I’ve really got to get a pair of massive, red-rimmed glasses like that the ones that sweet old lady over my left shoulder is wearing.
- And I Approved This Message - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:29 pm:
“Hillary, you may not believe it right now, but someday you’re going to move to New York, run for the Senate and claim you’ve always been a Yankee fan. Seriously, I’m not kidding.”
- Formerly Known As... - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:29 pm:
This is it! This is the year for the Cubbies.
They got Sosa, Grace, Dunston, Sandberg and um, um, a whole bunch of really good pitchers.
Maybe next year.
- Mouthy - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:30 pm:
We don’t keep Sox home runs either…
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:30 pm:
Edgar: “I’ll bet that Sox fan Netsch is steamed about this photo op. Little does she know that I’m gonna steal her tax hike plan after the election. That’ll really honk her off. Heh. I love being me.”
- Formerly Known As... - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:31 pm:
hehe, Clinton’s not fooling anyone. Everyone knows she’s a Yankees fan. Am I right or am I right?
- Formerly Known As... - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:33 pm:
“I was for the Cubs before I was against them.”
- Hillary
- Arthur Andersen - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:39 pm:
Hillary: “I don’t know how that Lewinsky witch got in here, right over my left shoulder, but in just a second I’m gonna turn around and show her why I was the starting pitcher on the Maine South softball team!”
- Steve - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:40 pm:
First Lady Hillary Clinton instructs Jim Edgar on how to be a junior partner in big activist government.
- D P Gumby - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:42 pm:
Hillary practices w/ ball before throwing in her hat.
- Mouthy - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:45 pm:
“First baseman, coach, catcher, what difference does it make?”
- Downstater - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:45 pm:
She throws the ball like Obama!!!
- OneMan - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:50 pm:
Hillary: I got to meet a young up and comer, guy had really nice hair…..
Edgar: Oh, you mean Rod
Hillary: Yep, going to keep my eye on him, met some lawyer too.. Barak or something, wasn’t impressed…
- Stones - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:54 pm:
Cubs sign another rag-armed right hander.
Incidentally, thank you for posting this Rich. I was at that game and my father is the gentlemen in the red Bulls jacket taking the photo behind Hillary. Great memory.
- Deep South - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:55 pm:
Should be an interesting night. I wonder if anyone on the panel will actually be from “the rest of Illinois?”
- Stones - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:56 pm:
I’ll add that this was the famous Tuffy Rhodes 3 home run opening day game.
- Sangamon GOP - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:57 pm:
Why would you wear a suit to opening day of the Cubs…when a winter parka is so much more appropriate?
- ProblemChild21 - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 1:58 pm:
“Wow! We’ve got a contract right here!”
- Arthur Andersen - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 2:05 pm:
“The way she throws that ball makes my heart flutter.”
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 2:08 pm:
“Oh, is that Bill right there? Watch how I say, hello.”
- Not Rollo Tomasi - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 2:10 pm:
No matter what she has done or said I can not forgive her for saying she was a life long Yankee fan. You can change your spouse, or job, your name, your address, or your political party. But to change your allegiance to a sports team is dead wrong.
Plus the Yankees are evil!
- Skeptic - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 2:11 pm:
“But it’s so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of Madigan: . . .” Inconceivable!
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 2:23 pm:
I know lotsa Cub fans who are also Yankee fans. It torks off the Sox fans and gives them a winning team to root for. Also back in the day most of us Cub fans hated the Mets. Another reason for Yankee loving. 1969 will never heal. It’s one reason why I switched to the Sox.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 2:29 pm:
Hilary: “Wow, who does his hair?”
Edgar: “Ugh, who does her hair?”
- Reggaeman - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 2:30 pm:
Jim Edgar waits his turn as Hillary gets the first throw at Bill Clinton in the Dunk Tank. The crowd is enthusiastically cheering them on.
- zatoichi - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 2:30 pm:
Who wears suits to a ball game? These people and the security guys off camera to the left.
- Bluefish - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 2:55 pm:
What’s the score?
Nuthin’ nuthin’.
Who’s winning?
The Bears.
- John A Logan - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 3:00 pm:
A photo taken when there were reasons to smile in Illinois.
- Amuzing Myself - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 3:03 pm:
Edgar: “Pffffttt! Windy City my @ss! Look at this hair!”
- Belle - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 3:05 pm:
Traded my pants suit in for a sweater set…the GOP dudes don’t get the suit…too man-ish for them.
- MrJM - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 3:07 pm:
Jim Edgar and a hot prospect for 2016.
– MrJM
- Republicrat - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 3:27 pm:
From Reservoir Dogs: Ann Landers to the left of me, Monica to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle with you!
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 3:30 pm:
—Should be an interesting night. I wonder if anyone on the panel will actually be from “the rest of Illinois?”—
Good Point….I would venture a guess that everyone at this event thinks that Kankakee is “Southern Illinois”……close but y’all are missing the target by 300 miles. (Y’all added for effect.)
- siriusly - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 3:35 pm:
47 - That’s inconceivable!
- ArchPundit - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 3:44 pm:
Jack Roeser: Who, but a RINO would throw out a ball with a Clinton? I told you all this in the primary and you didn’t listen!
Edgar: Republican In Name and in Office
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 3:47 pm:
–I’ll add that this was the famous Tuffy Rhodes 3 home run opening day game.–
Didn’t it start snowing really hard late in that game?
If I recall, all three of Tuffy’s taters came off Doc Gooden, but the Cubs still lost.
A month later, Tuffy was back in Des Moines. Two years later, he was off to Osaka.
Tuffy got benched late one year in Japan so he wouldn’t break Oh’s single-season homer record.
- 47th Ward - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 3:51 pm:
Tuffy hit another one all the way to the ivy in that game. Missed #4 by this-much. I was at that game and I remember snow as well.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 3:55 pm:
—Should be an interesting night. I wonder if anyone on the panel will actually be from “the rest of Illinois?”—
Why don’t you read the post above, and that will answer your question?
–Good Point….I would venture a guess that everyone at this event thinks that Kankakee is “Southern Illinois”……close but y’all are missing the target by 300 miles. (Y’all added for effect.)–
I kind of doubt that, since the event is in Springfield.
But your regional victims-complexes are duly noted. Sheesh.
- Michelle Flaherty - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 4:03 pm:
Pat Quinn is Tuffy Rhodes without the opening day power.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 4:08 pm:
–From Reservoir Dogs: Ann Landers to the left of me, Monica to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle with you!–
LOL, I don’t think that’s Monica, but I’m pretty sure that is Ann Landers.
Geez, remember when the biggest problem in the country was Monica? Those were the days.
- RNUG Fan - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 4:27 pm:
I used to find the story about Jim Edgar coming back to be amusing…..Looking at the current line up he would breeze through …..even with the Cubs.
- And I Approved This Message - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 4:34 pm:
Word - Just to continue this trip down Memory Lane, I’m pretty sure it’s The Man From U.N.C.L.E standing right behind Hillary.
- OurMagician - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 4:45 pm:
Photographic proof of one of the few times that Hillary can be actually called a right winger.
- Just The Way It Is One - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 4:56 pm:
Weeeee! I’m just gonna wing this thing and have some fun mySELF, Even hangin’ out with this handsome Republican Governor for awhile! Yayyy–he caught it! Now come on over here Jimmy, cuddle up over here Guvvy boy and shoot the breeze with me–and maybe I can raise BILL’s eyebrow for a change!! After all, who IS this cutesy little MONica punk girl he’s always tellin’ me he’s been giving assignments to in the Oval Office and who’s been helpin’ him out so much, hmm? He’d just better not be pullin’ another Gennifer Flowers on me, or, or, I’ll just run for President mySELF one day, and he’d better just SHUT up then and campaign his big rear-end for ME THEN!!! Monica WHO…? Oh heck with it–play Ball! Woo hoo-go Cubbies!
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 5:56 pm:
way past time to stop referring to Capitol Fax as a “newsletter.”
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 6:04 pm:
Come to think of it, just fire your publicist altogether. How o you not get top billing? You probably know more Edgar stories than Edgar.
- Betsy - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 6:08 pm:
Edgar: (thought bubble) “Baseball? I was told this would be the opening day of Arlington.”
- Betsy - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 6:09 pm:
Edgar: “What? No buffalo burgers here at Wrigley! Maybe the food is better at Comiskey.”
- Bill - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 6:35 pm:
- way past time to stop referring to Capitol Fax as a “newsletter.” -
Or as a fax. The 90’s were 20 years ago!
Caption: Next stop Detroit. Staff better have my hat ready for whatever crappy team I’ve been a lifelong fan of while I’m there.
- I don't want to live in Teabagistan - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 7:24 pm:
Edgar: Wanna hear a joke?
Hillary: Sure
E: A black U.S. president, a female U.S. President and a world series winning Cubs team jump off a building. Who hits the ground first?
H: ?
E: Nobody. None of them exist!
H: :/
- Holdingontomywallet - Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:48 pm:
She throws like Obama, but with better technique.
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Thursday, Jun 6, 13 @ 8:19 am:
@Bill:
True, but Capitol Fax is an archetype like Kleenex. Nobody clarifies Kleenex with “facial tissue,” because if you don’t know what Kleenex is, you probably don’t have a nose.
And if you don’t know what Capitol Fax is, you probably don’t have a nose for Illinois government, politics or policymaking.
And with all due respect to my friends at the Sun-Times, especially Dave McKinney, it is “trailblazing journalist Rich Miller, founder of Capitol Fax and political columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times.”
To paraphrase Oswego Willy’s imnermost thoughts:
Bob Woodward was the Rich Miller of Washington, DC. 40 years ago.