A very important thing to remember
Wednesday, Oct 8, 2014 - Posted by Rich Miller
* This comment by “Illannoyed” is spot on…
The Rauner folks might be getting some of what they need. Both the Sun-Times and Tribune have headlines and stories that can be used in campaign ads. I understand that a campaign taking advantage of an existing policy isn’t improper in and of itself, but good luck explaining that to an electorate accustomed to political corruption. The nuance is likely to be completely lost.
S/he’s right. Sun-Times…
Tribune…
- walker - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:15 pm:
A little somethin’ somethin’.
Not the sledgehammer they wanted.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:16 pm:
It works, it’s “solid”…you got an Ad…
You just didn’t get a Home Run
- Sir Reel - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:18 pm:
Let’s see how well the Rauner campaign can translate this into a message that will resonate with voters. To date they haven’t always take advantage of what they’ve had to work with.
- Ducky LaMoore - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:18 pm:
So, let me get this straight. Quinn threw Lavin under the bus. And then it is confirmed in hearings. Yep, Rauner has an ad. We’ll see what tomorrow brings.
- phocion - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:23 pm:
Not sure this will be enough to slow down the Quinn Election Express train.
- A guy... - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:35 pm:
Rationalizing….more. Headline writers do what they do. At the very least, they’re seeing something a little more serious than our commenting corp is.
- Arthur Andersen - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:47 pm:
Oh man is that a great picture if you know the guy at the podium.
- Try-4-Truth - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:50 pm:
You know, I wonder if an enterprising Democrat on the panel could ask this question of the Republicans on the panel…. “So did any of you coordinate your questioning with the Republican Party of Illinois, Rauner for Governor campaign, or any other partisan entity before you questioned these witnesses?”…. Because, if they did (and you know they did), aren’t they being just a tad bit hypocritical?
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:50 pm:
Good point Rich. However, haven’t you also made the point that IL voters accept/expect low-levels of corruption in their government? Unless they see outright theft (Blago), IL voters tend to shrug this stuff off, correct? I didn’t hear any smoking guns connecting the Gov to anything major. Will there be a parade of people taking the 5th tomorrow? That may change things. I don’t know if today moved the needle a lot for Rauner.
- Red Ranger - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:56 pm:
Anonymous 3:50 is me. Google Chrome gets me again!
- Bill White - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:57 pm:
Headline writers do what they do . . .
. . . to get people to click on the story.
- Harry - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:58 pm:
Try-4-Truth @ 3:50pm–No, if it happened, and I would be surprised if it didn’t, where is the hypocrisy in that? How is coordinating questions anything like misuse of public funds?
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:03 pm:
I don’t know. At this point, have we heard anything that’s going to flip undecideds?
- leprechaun - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:09 pm:
wordslinger - more likely swing newspaper editorials and maybe even get Sun Times off PQ bandwagon. Voters independents and undecided not sure you probably correct
- chi - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:10 pm:
Rauner gets tomorrow’s newspaper headlines, I guess. Seems like the papers both decided they were going with the hearings no matter what came out of them. Almost trying to be “fair and balanced” given the coverage they’ve had of Baron V. Carhartt’s trials and tribulations.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:12 pm:
I’m not sure the Rauner campaign is looking for advice from a blog that beats them up everyday while trying to explain away the NRI scandal.
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:14 pm:
===I’m not sure the Rauner campaign is looking for advice ===
Maybe, but they sure do look. Constantly.
- Amalia - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:15 pm:
the bad picture provides the link to the Blago past….Lavin. and that is part of the problem.
- Soccermom - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:15 pm:
AA — no kidding.
- A guy... - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:16 pm:
Shucks, the feed just went haywire while Brady was asking a very pertinent question. Bummer.
- Try-4-Truth - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:20 pm:
- Harry - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:58 pm:
Try-4-Truth @ 3:50pm–No, if it happened, and I would be surprised if it didn’t, where is the hypocrisy in that? How is coordinating questions anything like misuse of public funds?
STOP saying things like “a misuse of public funds”. IF and I us capital IF a “misuse” occurred, there are not facts in evidence that ANY government officials “misused” them. What is being alleged is that a campaign coordinated the grants for maximum political impact. That is what we are being told. So, to answer your question, if these questions are being coordinated for maximum political impact, they are being hypocritical. Geese Louise, stop claiming things that you think are true, but you have no evidence to support it.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:22 pm:
–I’m not sure the Rauner campaign is looking for advice from a blog that beats them up everyday while trying to explain away the NRI scandal.–
They should look somewhere. Because after spending millions over the course of a year, they haven’t put away a governor with a 36% approval rating in a Republican year.
- Carl Nyberg - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:27 pm:
Re: Rauner’s people looking constantly…
Maybe a QOTD… or three.
What are the lessons learned from the Rauner campaign?
What are the lessons learned from the Quinn campaign?
What advice would you give the Libertarian Party? The Green Party? Any other alternative party?
- DuPage Bard - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:36 pm:
It’s a good headline and probably a Sunday editorial. Nothing more nothing less.
Rauner will use it but truthfully the DCFS ad is a better heart string puller. The time it will take to explain this cluster can’t be done in a 30 second piece.
He’s already hit PQ for being incompetent, all this does is add to that argument and the voters according to polling don’t care.
So far though not illegal. Incompetent maybe but not illegal. Unless the Feds come out with something else before the election?
We shall see once the first ad hits how powerful they can make this.
- Jeepster - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:41 pm:
Spot on…and that’s why Quinn needs to undermine the public’s trust of anything coming out of Rauner’s campaign. He’s doing a very good job so far.
- Chicago Cynic - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:41 pm:
Useful, but not fatal. We’ll see what tomorrow brings. Toni Irving promises to be more explosive as does Lavin. Anyone know if Malcolm Weems is testifying?
- anon - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:43 pm:
Voters don’t care about this. The dead horse has been thoroughly beaten.
- Chicago Publius - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:44 pm:
[This comment has been deleted because the commenter made an allegation of illegal conduct that turned out to be not true. According to the Senate Republicans and the governor’s campaign, the emails from Jack Lavin were from his personal account, and not his government account.]
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:53 pm:
=== via their government email accounts===
The email addresses have been redacted, so I don’t know where you got that.
However, if those were all sent to government email addresses, that would most definitely be a problem for Lavin if he responded via his government account. You can’t help who sends you e-mails, but you can help how you respond. I think there was at least one instance where Lavin forwarded an NRI email (not sure who from) to his personal account. That email showed up on the FOIA, which is why the LAC started looking at his personal email account.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:57 pm:
===I’m not sure the Rauner campaign is looking for advice from a blog that beats them up everyday while trying to explain away the NRI scandal.===
This blog is cheaper, and frankly, I would listen to the Crew that Rich Miller has here to counsel me, versus what the “cheese-wiz kids” Rauner has, looking at that work product.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:58 pm:
I get a head ache when we start talking about using different phones and different email accounts in the belief that we’re fighting corruption.
I mean, seriously, who believes that? Obviously, an incumbent running for re-election and his crew are going to have a little bit of interest in the race.
If they’re not stealing state computers and office furniture for their campaign headquarters, who cares?
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:01 pm:
===via their government email accounts===
For what it’s worth, the governor’s campaign says these emails were from Lavin’s personal account.
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:07 pm:
…And the Senate GOP
- Amalia - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:11 pm:
if you send a personal email re a campaign on government time, what does that mean?
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:12 pm:
Amalia, as far as I could see, he received one on government time to his personal account. Unless I’m missing something, I didn’t see where he sent one on state time.
- circularfiringsquad - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:13 pm:
Does not appear these are government emails.
Another swing miss for Brady 2010, jumpijn jason and mitt too bad…not
- Samurai - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:17 pm:
==hearings on the $54.5 million anti-violence grant program that is now under federal investigation==
Ironically, $54.5 million is about what Bruce Rauner reported on his tax returns in 2012. At least he is playing politics with his own dough.
- Amalia - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:18 pm:
thanks Rich.
- Rollo Tomasi - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:23 pm:
Spending public money to get elected! I`m shocked!!!!!
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:28 pm:
Geez, somewhere Paul Powell, Orville Hodge and Len Small are laughing themselves silly over talk of emails on government time and corruption.
- Under Further Review - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 7:55 pm:
Len Small was thoroughly corrupt, but he was acquitted.
- walker - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 8:31 pm:
Dear God! I hope this is more than about which phone or e-mail account Lavin used for one message.
This is typical of how the “goo goos” are so often wasting everybody’s time with their anti-corruption “fixes.”
Why is Illinois awash in anti-corruption rules, (I can’t imagine any state could have any more than we already do), and yet seems to be still dancing to the old tunes?
- low level - Thursday, Oct 9, 14 @ 7:22 am:
Wordslinger - my thoughts exactly!
- seo filtering service - Tuesday, Oct 14, 14 @ 6:54 am:
I think that everything published was very logical.
However, think on this, suppose you were to write a killer title?
I mean, I don’t wish to tell you how to run your website, however
suppose you added a title that grabbed a person’s attention? I mean Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar »
A very important thing to remember is a little plain. You
should glance at Yahoo’s home page and note how they
create news titles to grab people to open the links.
You might add a video or a pic or two to get readers excited about everything’ve got to say.
In my opinion, it would make your posts a little livelier.