Cozy Cleaners is a huge Brown supporter. So much so that if you bring in your dry cleaning, they will do a pair of jeans for free. But only on Fridays.
No proof she is responsible nor that its intentional spoofing on her part. She coulda had the neighborhood kids standing out there to get signatures, you are always likely to get some jokers. If there are good signatures on that page she would still turn it in to count the good ones.
I had a couple people turn in sheets like that to me. Not even roundtabling, it was all the same writing at consecutive addresses. Seemed like a couple clueless people looking to get paid.
Anyone paying attention isn’t paying for those signatures and certainly won’t submit them. Incompetence at the least.
Filing fees, like more than 30 other states use for ballot access, sure would save our election boards a lot of time and money and free up campaign resources to do more voter education efforts. That is the best way to get rid of silliness like this and update our ballot access laws into the 21st century.
- Lane Tech Lenny - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 8:46 pm:
If you brought this crap into a good or any Chicago Democratic Ward Committeeman during the Richard J Daley years you would receive your job termination in return. Rich, so correct, not even a bad “round table”".
Remember, Dorothy Brown is a statutory member of the Cook County Officers Electoral Board and is empowered to pass upon objections to nominating petitions filed in suburban Cook County!
There are times when I don’t feel guilty laughing at the incompetence of others, and this is certainly one of those times. I don’t think this reflects the level of effort that grade school kids put into forging their parents signature.
If she paid her signature gatherers what Rauner paid his term limit signature gatherers, maybe she wouldn’t have had these issues. /s
- West Side the Best Side - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 11:19 pm:
This is just unbelievable. If there was someone being paid by the campaign who submitted these petitions, they should be fired. If it was a volunteer ( or perhaps with DB a “volunteer”)’ they should be referred to one of her opponents. Did somebody actually think no one would look at these. Maybe they thought the County Clerk would just weigh them and say they’re heavy enough so they must be ok. Got to agree with Jeff Trigg, filing fees and forget this nonsense. That will never fly however because we don’t want nobody nobody sent.
Didn’t these signature gatherers have any training? Wasn’t anyone checking their work on a regular basis? (And didn’t anyone think to pull them aside, one by one, and teach them how to be proper fraudsters? Holy crap, not even an attempt to vary the handwriting on each line!)
Enterprising souls might wish to pull Ms. Brown’s prior petitions (if still available in some dusty Cook County vault) and compare the old to the current–might be interesting to see if the names, addresses, or handwriting are on past petitions…And who were the notaries who signed off on these? Should the notaries be calling their lawyers, too?
Jaw-droppingly bad…don’t know what to say, aside from: call your lawyer, get a fat retainer paid before the feds freeze the campaign fund, and consider dropping out before this get in front of a judge.
“And who were the notaries who signed off on these? Should the notaries be calling their lawyers, too?”
Probably not.
The notary only attests to the validity of the signature of the petition circulator. But if those petitions were circulated by “Harold S. Chicken” or “Rocky Roll McDonalds”, then the notary would have some problems.
When you’re forging petition signatures using the phone book, you need to remember to just use the residential listings part. The yellow pages part doesn’t work.
- Keyrock - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 7:12 pm:
Gee, the quality of roundtabling has really gone way downhill in this town.
- @MisterJayEm - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 7:15 pm:
“Genesis Gallery” at 4201 S Archer Ave?
That’s a subdivision of Watra Church Goods Company — “serving the needs of churches of all traditions since 1935.”
http://www.yelp.com/biz/gallery-genesis-chicago
http://www.watra.com/genesis.asp
– MrJM
- Team Sleep - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 7:19 pm:
This is more juvenile than some of the pranks I pulled in my Younger Sleep days.
“Cozy Cleaner”?!
To quote the awesome Hank Hill, “I don’t know whether to laugh or vomit.”
- Juice - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 7:24 pm:
Cozy Cleaners is a huge Brown supporter. So much so that if you bring in your dry cleaning, they will do a pair of jeans for free. But only on Fridays.
- Anonymous - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 7:24 pm:
She is done.
- bored now - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 7:35 pm:
best evidence of tabling i have seen in awhile…
- Quizzical - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 7:38 pm:
I bet Kasper is glad she’s not slated any more.
- Rich Miller - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 7:46 pm:
===tabling===
Yeah. But definitelt not round tabling. That’s more like a TV tray.
- @MisterJayEm - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 7:52 pm:
Reminder: You can be completely crooked or you can be completely incompetent, but you can’t be both.
– MrJM
- Arthur Andersen - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 7:58 pm:
If they try to find “Gary P” to verify him, where is 823 West Wacker Drive?
- Amalia - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 8:06 pm:
who are Dorothy’s key people in the office?
- Gooner - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 8:14 pm:
Oddly, that’s a far more professional performance than we see from her office.
- internal angel - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 8:16 pm:
No proof she is responsible nor that its intentional spoofing on her part. She coulda had the neighborhood kids standing out there to get signatures, you are always likely to get some jokers. If there are good signatures on that page she would still turn it in to count the good ones.
- Michelle Flaherty - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 8:23 pm:
You’re not supposed to roundtable with the yellow pages
- @MisterJayEm - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 8:27 pm:
“No proof she is responsible nor that its intentional spoofing on her part.”
Ah yes, the old “You Can’t Prove She Isn’t That Inept” defense.
– MrJM
- Jeff Trigg - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 8:39 pm:
I had a couple people turn in sheets like that to me. Not even roundtabling, it was all the same writing at consecutive addresses. Seemed like a couple clueless people looking to get paid.
Anyone paying attention isn’t paying for those signatures and certainly won’t submit them. Incompetence at the least.
Filing fees, like more than 30 other states use for ballot access, sure would save our election boards a lot of time and money and free up campaign resources to do more voter education efforts. That is the best way to get rid of silliness like this and update our ballot access laws into the 21st century.
- Lane Tech Lenny - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 8:46 pm:
If you brought this crap into a good or any Chicago Democratic Ward Committeeman during the Richard J Daley years you would receive your job termination in return. Rich, so correct, not even a bad “round table”".
- siriusly - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 8:54 pm:
So bad it is newsworthy. Hall of fame bad.
- walker - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 9:01 pm:
Amalia: We know, we know. Maybe this is payback or abandonment by anyone who knows how to do this.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 9:06 pm:
===Yeah. But definitelt not round tabling. That’s more like a TV tray.===
Yep, a one-person round table.
The tragic comedy of this is she just can’t not do something illegal.
- Blago's Hare - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 9:10 pm:
I can see a whole bunch of new nickname choices for the commenters who are unable to come up with one on their own.
- Jimmy CrackCorn - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 9:29 pm:
Corporations ARE people, my friend. Therefore the signatures stand (just gotta take it to the US Supremes).
- Oneman - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 9:35 pm:
MrJM I think I could prove she is incompetent
Also in order to round table you need people round the table as it were
- FRM - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 9:40 pm:
==Corporations ARE people, my friend. Therefore the signatures stand==
Have to be registered to vote
- Junior - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 9:41 pm:
I’m sure Rauner is at the bottom of this.
- FRM - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 9:43 pm:
DB has to get rid of Madigan’s Moody brothers. She cant possibly win if she’s allowing them to help her one day and Alderman Harris the next.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 9:52 pm:
I guess handling any legal documents in a proper orderly manner as prescribed by statue is just not her forte.
Too bad filed legal documents is also her sworn duty, but I digress…
- Keyrock - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 9:57 pm:
FRM - I knew it. Because Madigan, right?
Jim Laski had a nice story about roundtabling in his post-prison memoir.
- Anonymous - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 9:59 pm:
Remember, Dorothy Brown is a statutory member of the Cook County Officers Electoral Board and is empowered to pass upon objections to nominating petitions filed in suburban Cook County!
- Anonymous - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 10:00 pm:
Is that Jay Cutler on line 11 of the third sheet?
- mokenavince - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 10:25 pm:
Round tabling as phony as a 3 dollar bill.
- AC - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 10:29 pm:
There are times when I don’t feel guilty laughing at the incompetence of others, and this is certainly one of those times. I don’t think this reflects the level of effort that grade school kids put into forging their parents signature.
- AC - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 10:38 pm:
If she paid her signature gatherers what Rauner paid his term limit signature gatherers, maybe she wouldn’t have had these issues. /s
- West Side the Best Side - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 11:19 pm:
This is just unbelievable. If there was someone being paid by the campaign who submitted these petitions, they should be fired. If it was a volunteer ( or perhaps with DB a “volunteer”)’ they should be referred to one of her opponents. Did somebody actually think no one would look at these. Maybe they thought the County Clerk would just weigh them and say they’re heavy enough so they must be ok. Got to agree with Jeff Trigg, filing fees and forget this nonsense. That will never fly however because we don’t want nobody nobody sent.
- Marty Funkhouser - Thursday, Dec 3, 15 @ 11:33 pm:
Remember when she wanted to be mayor?
- Archiesmom - Friday, Dec 4, 15 @ 12:20 am:
I showed better forgery techniques in grade school while trying to sign my mother’s name to a permission slip.
- Lynn S. - Friday, Dec 4, 15 @ 12:41 am:
Didn’t these signature gatherers have any training? Wasn’t anyone checking their work on a regular basis? (And didn’t anyone think to pull them aside, one by one, and teach them how to be proper fraudsters? Holy crap, not even an attempt to vary the handwriting on each line!)
Enterprising souls might wish to pull Ms. Brown’s prior petitions (if still available in some dusty Cook County vault) and compare the old to the current–might be interesting to see if the names, addresses, or handwriting are on past petitions…And who were the notaries who signed off on these? Should the notaries be calling their lawyers, too?
Jaw-droppingly bad…don’t know what to say, aside from: call your lawyer, get a fat retainer paid before the feds freeze the campaign fund, and consider dropping out before this get in front of a judge.
- @MisterJayEm - Friday, Dec 4, 15 @ 12:52 am:
I’ll be really disappointed if one of those lines isn’t signed Epstein’s Mother.
– MrJM
- @MisterJayEm - Friday, Dec 4, 15 @ 12:58 am:
“And who were the notaries who signed off on these? Should the notaries be calling their lawyers, too?”
Probably not.
The notary only attests to the validity of the signature of the petition circulator. But if those petitions were circulated by “Harold S. Chicken” or “Rocky Roll McDonalds”, then the notary would have some problems.
– MrJM
- Anon - Friday, Dec 4, 15 @ 1:21 am:
Zoinks!
- Visual Manager - Friday, Dec 4, 15 @ 6:12 am:
All the capital Cs look identical…
- Chad - Friday, Dec 4, 15 @ 6:47 am:
Reminds me of the old “Thompson Proposition”.
- Gruntled University Employee - Friday, Dec 4, 15 @ 7:42 am:
Oh yeah MisterJayEm, well up your nose with a rubber hose.
- titan - Friday, Dec 4, 15 @ 8:20 am:
When you’re forging petition signatures using the phone book, you need to remember to just use the residential listings part. The yellow pages part doesn’t work.