So let’s be clear….. the Governor and the House Republicans will vote for a Revenue bill and NO Reforms with Senate Republicans doing the same??? 3 years No Budget for what??
They already passed pension reform, that’s arguably the most critical one. The property tax thing is just red meat headline fodder, it might save the average family a hundred bucks (versus the damage of seeing universities and shelters close).
I think (hopefully) that Republicans voting for this bill today have come to their senses and understand the futility of linking non-budget reforms to a budget, which is revenue and expenses.
The same commenters, here and in Springfield, who screamed yesterday when Madigan wanted to take a day to let things settle and firm up, are now screaming that everything is moving too fast.
Someone please explain to me what is bi-partisan about dropping 600 page bills on people with an hour’s notice. Clearly he has been planning this all along. Why couldn’t this have been done two years ago?
Three black caucus members voted No on the tax hike (Turner-leadership, Davis-Edu approp chair, and Conyears-Erivin), so the votes should be there if your theory on R votes is correct.
–The same commenters, here and in Springfield, who screamed yesterday when Madigan wanted to take a day to let things settle and firm up, are now screaming that everything is moving too fast.–
Three Fingers Brown it does not matter whether the state gets 1 cent from property tax. It does matter to the people who pay them. We need property tax reform.
Keep hearing arguments of cart-before-the-horse (as in budget before alleged needed econimic reforms to increase jobs) as a reason not to pass the revenue bill. Problem is there is a huge pile of dung in front of the horse and cart that unless one or the other go first to steer around the dung (aka junk bond status/14 billion owed). if that means we go backwards (budget first) to steer us around, so be it.
Which Rs voted for the higher spending bill on Friday and then voted against today’s bill that proposes to spend even less. How are they going to explain that tortuous gymnastic feat?
- JAH - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 12:01 pm:
So let’s be clear….. the Governor and the House Republicans will vote for a Revenue bill and NO Reforms with Senate Republicans doing the same??? 3 years No Budget for what??
- Three-Finger Brown - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 12:17 pm:
They already passed pension reform, that’s arguably the most critical one. The property tax thing is just red meat headline fodder, it might save the average family a hundred bucks (versus the damage of seeing universities and shelters close).
- Impasse Casualty - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 2:35 pm:
JAH,
I think (hopefully) that Republicans voting for this bill today have come to their senses and understand the futility of linking non-budget reforms to a budget, which is revenue and expenses.
- cdog - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 2:48 pm:
Is there a way to watch the live action?
ilga.gov, House, live video, not loading.
Blueroomstream seems to need a password.
- GLG - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 3:11 pm:
The ILGA feed is not working video and audio, it worked for a short time but its down now.
- GLG - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 3:13 pm:
Go to blue stream they have removed the password requirement for today!
- sharkette - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 3:15 pm:
—>cdog
http://www.ilga.gov/houseaudvid.asp#
But mostly it’s not working as their is no money to improve the technology needed to make it function better.
- WHY??? - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 3:21 pm:
“House Democrats filed amendments to both the spending and revenue bills today.”
Can anyone tell us what is in those ‘new’ amendments?
- sharkette - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 3:27 pm:
Seems there was 2 years to do this.
What a farse
- WHY? - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 3:28 pm:
Could Madigan’s changes be caused by the Governor constantly moving the goal-post on the Dems?
- cdog - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 3:29 pm:
Hurry you have 32 minutes to read the 605 pg amendment Madigan just filed.
I question his integrity, trustworthiness, etc. Insert troll-talk.
Can he be removed today, please?
- Three-Finger Brown - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 3:32 pm:
The video feed is only active when the speaker (Lang) is calling a bill or resolution. Looks like there’s been some last minute stuff going on.
- walker - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 3:48 pm:
The same commenters, here and in Springfield, who screamed yesterday when Madigan wanted to take a day to let things settle and firm up, are now screaming that everything is moving too fast.
- Stuff - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 3:53 pm:
Someone please explain to me what is bi-partisan about dropping 600 page bills on people with an hour’s notice. Clearly he has been planning this all along. Why couldn’t this have been done two years ago?
- cdog - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 4:06 pm:
walker, point made, but why would Madigan not say, yesterday, that he intended to file a MOAB amendment?
Must be some monster giveaways of taxpayer dollars he’s hiding in there.
He’s been doing it for years, and it’s unacceptable.
(Rauner is junk, but on this he is correct.)
- Rich Miller - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 4:19 pm:
cdog, check the update.
- Anonymous - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 5:20 pm:
Three black caucus members voted No on the tax hike (Turner-leadership, Davis-Edu approp chair, and Conyears-Erivin), so the votes should be there if your theory on R votes is correct.
- wordslinger - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 5:37 pm:
It appears a few House Republicans have figured out what’s been true for two years: they can be the deciders.
- wordslinger - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 5:38 pm:
–The same commenters, here and in Springfield, who screamed yesterday when Madigan wanted to take a day to let things settle and firm up, are now screaming that everything is moving too fast.–
Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly.
- Three-Finger Brown - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 5:39 pm:
David Harris is the man.
- Oswego Willy - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 5:42 pm:
Rep. Harris, thank you.
Noses looking like their being counted…
- Three-Finger Brown - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 5:55 pm:
Republicans complaining about property taxes. I wonder if anyone can point out to them that the state budget doesn’t use 1 penny of property taxes?
- Grandson of Man - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 5:59 pm:
“David Harris is the man.”
Same with Rep. Unes. Very bold statement.
- Dandy Edward - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 6:08 pm:
Three Fingers Brown it does not matter whether the state gets 1 cent from property tax. It does matter to the people who pay them. We need property tax reform.
- JS Mill - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 6:11 pm:
@GOM I am both surprised and impressed by Unes. I did not see him stepping up like that.
Ammons isn’t helping and Breen and Ives seem to be in favor of jobs by bankrupting businesses in Illinois. Not even Kansa tried that route
- 47th Ward - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 6:16 pm:
Somebody tell Skillhorn how high the top income tax bracket was before JFK proposed the cut. What a dumb comparison to make.
Thanks to the Reps who are demonstrating courage and common sense today. Doing the right thing isn’t easy, but it sure is welcome.
- Three-Finger Brown - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 6:19 pm:
But Danny, this is SB9. Great news, it includes zero property taxes!
Democrats supported various property tax freezes, but the Governor didn’t like them. Sounds like your issue is with him.
- Just Sayin' - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 7:01 pm:
Keep hearing arguments of cart-before-the-horse (as in budget before alleged needed econimic reforms to increase jobs) as a reason not to pass the revenue bill. Problem is there is a huge pile of dung in front of the horse and cart that unless one or the other go first to steer around the dung (aka junk bond status/14 billion owed). if that means we go backwards (budget first) to steer us around, so be it.
- James Knell - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 7:09 pm:
Right on, Reggie!
Up with Uns!
Bryant, Anderson, et al
plus Dem, minus Drury I assume…
State Saving Super Heroes
- Keyrock - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 7:12 pm:
@statehousechick has gone silent, too. Waiting for further instructions from Bruce? What will be the new party line?
- Gruntled University Employee - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 7:19 pm:
I NEVER follow leglislative votes this this close, especially on a Sunday. This scribble live thingy is eating my brain.
- Grandson of Man - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 7:29 pm:
By the skin of its teeth. I was hoping for 73, but 72 will do if it overcomes Rauner’s veto.
- Rich Miller - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 7:32 pm:
If you want to discuss the tax hike vote, please go here https://capitolfax.com/2017/07/02/house-passes-tax-bill-with-strong-bipartisan-roll-call/
- Mister Whipple - Sunday, Jul 2, 17 @ 8:43 pm:
Which Rs voted for the higher spending bill on Friday and then voted against today’s bill that proposes to spend even less. How are they going to explain that tortuous gymnastic feat?
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