Rauner questioned on job creation
Monday, Aug 20, 2018 - Posted by Rich Miller
* One of Jake’s favorite topics at Illinois Working Together is this…
* So, Mark Maxwell asked Gov. Rauner about the numbers…
* Transcript…
Maxwell: Why do you think at this time in Pat Quinn’s governorship he created more jobs than you have in this time in yours? [Rauner laughs] Those are the facts, those are the dry numbers. Why do you think that is?
Rauner: So, um, Quinn was a disaster for the state of Illinois. And Pritzker will even be a bigger disaster. Regulations, restrictions, tax hikes…
Maxwell: How was he able to create more jobs at this time in his governorship than you have in yours?
Rauner: We have had the headwinds of a tax hike from Mike Madigan and the talk of further tax hikes…
Maxwell: To the same rate that it was under Gov. Quinn, to the same rate.
Rauner: And, and people see the deficit spending. People see what Madigan’s doing to the state. And it’s very difficult to persuade investors, very difficult to persuade job creators to come.
Go watch the rest. The governor claims he’s talked to business owners who’ve vowed to leave the state if Pritzker is elected. Maxwell also pressed him on all the jobs his overseas trips were supposed to create that haven’t yet been announced. The governor didn’t have much of an answer.
- Flynn's Mom - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 9:25 am:
Rauner laughs……and the beat goes on.
- wordslinger - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 9:30 am:
He didn’t even listen to the questions, just recited a bunch of non sequiturs from the script.
For Rauner, that’s a pretty good idea.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 9:36 am:
===Quinn was a disaster for the state of Illinois.===
That worked in 2014. It was called Skyhook.
You’re facing Skyhook, in reverse.
You don’t have Rockwell Torrey on the bridge of your task force.
“Quinn was a disaster for the state of Illinois”
… then Bruce Rauner is a disaster.
It’s 2014 all over again.
- wondering - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 9:45 am:
As I recall, a reoccurring descriptive of Quinn in 2014 was “feckless”. To reference an old song, “Who’s feckless now? You had your way, now you must pay” Quinn was far and away the better governor.
- Anon221 - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 9:47 am:
Basic Rauner “moral”- Tens of thousands of jobs will come to Illinois… But nary a one until Madigan is gone.
Amazing how weak Rauner is.
- Henry Francis - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 9:50 am:
Good job by Maxwell (a) following up a non-answer by the Guv and then (b) having a quick reply (tax rates) when the Guv’s answer is nonsense.
I am really getting the feeling the Guv’s heart just isn’t in it anymore. How could he not be prepared for this question? Is his campaign really that inept?
- AnonAnon - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 9:55 am:
Hard to believe, but there are still a lot of people in this State who believe what Rauner says and believe he has been great for the State. Scary.
- Trapped in the 'burbs - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 9:55 am:
Ouch, that’s going to leave a mark. Sorry Bruce, the media is going to keep asking questions and follow up questions now until the election. After the election, nobody will care about your thoughts. Funny how you said a million dollars is a lot of money for you, I guess now that you know you’re going to lose, the money feels different.
- Norseman - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 9:55 am:
When the facts don’t support you, make up stuff and throw mud at your opponents.
Under Quinn (who I agree was an incompetent leader), job growth was better and the debt was going down. Under Rauner, job growth worse, debt grew, higher education damaged, social services devastated. That makes Rauner a worse failure than Quinn. Plus, we need a governor who will be in charge.
- Montrose - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 10:00 am:
I can guarantee Quinn is spending the morning triple checking to see if there is anyway left for him to get on the ballot in November.
- Vole - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 10:12 am:
Ain’t difficult for people see what Rauner has done to the state.
- Honeybear - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 10:22 am:
You think there were more jobs created
For our hundreds of millions in
EDGE tax incentives
Hundreds of millions in corporate welfare
Rauner has never audited EDGE
They don’t want to know
Don’t ask don’t tell
That EDGE is a huge corporate giveaway
With no return
Chicago Tribune said Oct 8, 2015
“Money for Nothing”
Rauner gutted DCEO
To create Intersect
Which is an abject failure
Where are the jobs from all these trips abroad?
- Henry Francis - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 10:28 am:
Not only did Quinn create more jobs than the Guv, he did it without the help from Intersect Illinois that the Guv has benefited from.
- City Zen - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 10:34 am:
What’s Quinn’s starting point, when he took over for Blago in 2009 or when he was elected in 2011? Depending on the start date, and assuming they’re using BLS Nonfarm numbers, Quinn’s number changes quite a bit.
- walker - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 10:46 am:
“”And it’s very difficult to persuade investors, very difficult to persuade job creators to come.”"
Fundamental misunderstanding of economics. Job creators are grown and encouraged from the bottom up; they don’t “come.”
Almost all growth in jobs comes from start-ups, small and medium companies getting bigger. If you want to encourage “job creators” with tax or government policy, you help the small and new, not the giant corporations.
- Real - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 10:55 am:
No jobs from 3 of his oversees trips which he announced were coming so why again is he running for re-election??
- Sugar Corn - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 10:56 am:
By almost every measure Pat Quinn was a better Governor than Bruce Rauner.
Ok, Quinn let the paint and the decorative spindles at the mansion deterioriate. So Rauner has a leg up on “mansion improvements”
- Roman - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 10:57 am:
Wow, a television reporter asking a well-informed follow-up question. Haven’t seen that from a Chicago-based TV “journalist” since Hugh Hill retired. (I’m exaggerating of course, but not much.)
- Real - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 10:58 am:
I want to say thanks to Mark Maxwell for giving Rauner a real interview and asking tough questions, unlike the bought and paid for joke Maze Jackson.
- The Dude Abides - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 11:00 am:
I wonder if the Governor or anyone on his staff ever considered the effect that not having a state budget would have on job creation? Either they were utterly incompetent or the Governor thought his Turnaround Agenda was more important than the jobs that were lost as a result of his budget crisis. I’m pretty certain that it was the latter. He put his personal agenda before the people of this state and now the numbers are coming in and they are bad.
- Jocko - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 11:06 am:
==and people see the deficit spending.==
Like running up a billion dollars in interest charges?
- Joe Bidenopolous - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 11:24 am:
Could be an effective ad if someone wanted to do a mashup of Rauner tells - the chuckle before he lies or obfuscates
- Precinct Captain - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 11:31 am:
At this point, Rauner might as well go full QAnon because it wouldn’t be any less embarrassing than this.
- njt16 - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 12:09 pm:
CZ - not sure, here’s a link to the xls:
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMS17000000000000001?amp%253bdata_tool=XGtable&output_view=data&include_graphs=true
- Honeybear - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 12:14 pm:
Nice Joe Bidenopoulus.
Laugh-n-lie Rauner
- City Zen - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 12:38 pm:
njt16 - Thanks. Those were the numbers to which I was referring.
If you consider Feb 2009 Quinn’s start date, Quinn shows a net loss of jobs after 43 months.
If you consider Feb 2011 Quinn’s start date, he already lost 115,000 jobs from his first 2 years. Does he get to count jobs he already lost as gains?
I’m not defending Bruce’s results by any means, just the selective choice of numbers and dates quoted here with no context.
- Archpundit - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 3:18 pm:
==“Quinn was a disaster for the state of Illinois”
And then there was a great man made disaster named Bruce Rauner who made everything even worse.
- Grandson of Man - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 4:09 pm:
“Rauner: We have had the headwinds of a tax hike from Mike Madigan and the talk of further tax hikes…”
For most of Rauner’s term the state income tax rate was 3.75%, a significant drop from the 5% under Quinn. Rauner had the supply side wind at his back, insofar as the rate drop, yet job growth appears to have been weaker.
- City Zen - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 5:36 pm:
==For most of Rauner’s term the state income tax rate was 3.75%, a significant drop from the 5% under Quinn.==
The effective state income tax rates under:
Quinn = 4.33%
Rauner = 4.2%
Over the past 10 years, the difference between Illinois’ unemployment rate versus the country’s was largest in 2013, right in the meaty part of the original 5% tax hike. That year was about twice as worse than the 2nd worst year in that span.
When we find a governor that can beat the national average, let me know.
- John Deere Green - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 6:03 pm:
Maxwell makes Rauner look absolutely foolish. I’d like to say that shouldn’t be too hard, but kudos to him for refusing to let Rauner get away with his canned garbage.
Focus, Mark, focus. When JB does something, it’s corruption. When Rauner does it, he’s a fightin’ for jobs ‘n such. Focus.
- wordslinger - Monday, Aug 20, 18 @ 6:48 pm:
Mark Maxwell
@WCIA3Mark
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–”Tens of thousands of jobs have come from that [jobs mission],” @GovRauner insisted. The Governor’s Office has not yet been able to show any evidence that his trips overseas resulted in 20,000-plus new jobs in the state.–
You’d think BTIA(TM) would have put out a press release on those tens of thousands of jobs.
Rauner is the Burger King, home of the whopper.
- Grandson of Man - Tuesday, Aug 21, 18 @ 8:45 am:
Per this Trib article, 2015 was a bad year for jobs in Illinois, with fewer jobs at the beginning of the year than the end. Apparently the tax cut didn’t help.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-illinois-december-unemployment-0123-biz-20160122-story,amp.html