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Wednesday, Apr 29, 2020 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Most folks drastically underestimated the impact a month ago…


At last check, the nation’s official death toll is 59,284.

Anyway, try to keep your comments Illinois-centric and be nice to each other.

       

38 Comments
  1. - ItsMillerTime - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:13 am:

    The President being in the less than 100 category then is why we are in the more than 10,000 category now.


  2. - Swampy Corn - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:14 am:

    Assuming for a moment the MLB moves forward with regional divisions, do Sox and Cardinals fans remain steadfast in their dislike of the Cubs? I know, maybe not the most civil discussion but a regional league sounds fun.


  3. - Blue Dog Dem - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:17 am:

    As old Blue reported to ya’ll a couple months ago, Gilead just reported some darn good news. My son’s hospital, not yet in the study, shows zero deaths on those getting the treatment.


  4. - Jose Abreu's Next Homer - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:17 am:

    Just get back to playing baseball, I won’t have a disdain for any team, I think.


  5. - Six Degrees of Separation - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:28 am:

    Who would have thought a month ago that the US would have 1/3 of the world’s reported cases, or that more than one out of ten worldwide deaths from COVID would occur in the state of NY?


  6. - West Side the Best Side - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:28 am:

    Rich - You got a nice mention yesterday in Jack Leyhane’s For What It’s Worth blog for your “invaluable” coverage of the Clay County lawsuit. Jack also gives his perspective for any commenters who wonder what a lawyer thinks about it.


  7. - Lester Holt’s Mustache - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:29 am:

    == Sox and Cardinals fans remain steadfast in their dislike of the Cubs?==

    Of course we will. But it is also true that we Sox fans will join all other baseball fans in remaining steadfast in our mutual dislike of the Cardinals. Nobody likes the Cardinals.


  8. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:33 am:

    It’s “basically” 1 in 324 in the country here that have been infected… that we know.

    Testing has not met any level of needed numbers. How’s tracking going? I wouldn’t say… good.

    Treatment? We’re still trying to have 14 consecutive days of downward numbers, and we’re looking at treatment as… working well?

    It’s still 24-40 times deadlier than “the flu”, polling, the latest by NPR, has governors and “stay at home” thinking rolling at a 3 to 1 level, and the foolish like Cabello and Bailey would like to… fish.

    One month ago.

    Seeming like a year ago too.


  9. - Tynie - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:34 am:

    I’d be fine with giving up my disdain for the Cubs for a season, and watching a regional baseball game. (I’m a Cards fan) Yes, I mean that as in, even if it’s played to be streamed online. I realize some people may prefer an in the stands approach, but we don’t know how the MLB will set that. I’ve seen schooling and church services go online lately, so I figured the play games to stream online was a fair possibility.


  10. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:38 am:

    === go online lately===

    Lately? Like the last month, throughout Lent… school since the lockdown.

    If you’re just going to troll for attention and seem “oblivious yet knowledgeable”, that’s an odd schtick to commenting.

    “lately”…


  11. - yinn - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:40 am:

    Sharing a link to a recording from the Council on Foreign Relations State and Local Initiative telephone conference on COVID-19 vaccine update. These phone conferences start with presentations by experts and then a Q&A involving public officials from across the country. Generally, CFR uploads the presentations only, but they’ve begun uploading the Q&A as well in the COVID series.

    We did a state-and-local election discussion yesterday and I expect that to be uploaded very soon.

    https://www.cfr.org/conference-calls/covid-19-vaccine-update


  12. - In 630 - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:41 am:

    So much wishcasting, so much just plain not wanting to/being able to imagine the scale of loss.


  13. - Grandson of Man - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:43 am:

    Grasping onto yesterday’s glories by watching “The Last Dance” episodes, as we lack live sports.


  14. - Back to the Future - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:46 am:

    Can’t, of course, speak for all Sox fans, but really never follow or support the Cardinals unless they are playing the Cubs.
    Always cheer on those Cards when they play the Cubs- - always.
    I have been to Card games and like their fans. Their new stadium is a nice place to catch a game.


  15. - njt - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:47 am:

    Blue, I’m sorry but that is not at all what was announced today:

    https://www.gilead.com/news-and-press/press-room/press-releases/2020/4/gilead-announces-results-from-phase-3-trial-of-investigational-antiviral-remdesivir-in-patients-with-severe-covid-19

    The only news here is that a 5 day dose is that same as a 10 day. Nothing will be known until the placebo control by NIAID comes out later in May:

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04280705


  16. - Dudley Magoo - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:54 am:

    I kind of thought things might be a little serious when it was reported that China was scrambling to build hospitals for COVID patients back in early February. They don’t let that type of news out. But everyone said the virus was contained. My first pandemic food restock purchase was second week of March. This household is prepared but thankful the worse case models have not happened.


  17. - Justacitizen - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 9:58 am:

    Most of us Cardinal fans will still have disdain for the Cubs-just a little more mellow disdain. Houston Astros caught a break-disdain for them will be milder too, I’d expect.


  18. - Tammy Duckworth as VP - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:02 am:

    Biden needs to address these allegations from Tara Raede.

    I hope Senator Duckworth doesnt come out and say the accuser isnt credible like Stacey Abrams did last night.


  19. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:03 am:

    === But everyone said the virus was contained.==

    Only… Trumpkins, the Trump Administration, and Fox News said that.

    If that’s you’re… everyone…


  20. - Nagidam - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:04 am:

    I will pray to baby Jesus just for baseball. As a cubs fan I will root for the sox and well lets say tolerate the Cardinals. Baseball is baseball.


  21. - DEE - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:04 am:

    Has anyone gone on Fox News on-line and read ‘Senator Plummer of Illinois’ op-ed? Just what we need. /s


  22. - Bruce (no not him) - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:15 am:

    Ahh, always a poll of people who have absolutely no clue. I’d like to the same poll of health care professionals a month ago. Wonder what their thoughts were?


  23. - PrairieChicken - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:16 am:

    I thought it was just “one guy in Seattle”.


  24. - Streator Curmudgeon - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:22 am:

    To put things in perspective, NPR reports that COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. have now exceeded the 58,220 Americans who were killed in the Vietnam war.


  25. - Chatham Resident - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:24 am:

    As for MLB, I would just forego real baseball this year and just E-Sports/Fantasy League the entire season and schedule instead. All the way to the World Series.

    The Dynasty League’s current standings look almost similar to what I would have expected the division races to appear so far this season had it not been for COVID-19:

    https://www.dynastyleaguebaseball.com/Standings.aspx?OrgID=115625&fbclid=IwAR1pqC8JDZnJpnSbjL6wIVOBE53Uhu2njmYe6fdTA199yA8NReZsmoQs5ZM

    Interestingly, the NL Central would be currently the worst division in baseball if this was reality. Cardinals in first at 17-13 but everyone else with a losing record (including 2nd-place Cubs), with Brew Crew stumbling out of the gate at 9-21.


  26. - TinyDancer(FKASue) - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:31 am:

    =Gilead just reported some darn good news=

    Gilead reported good results? Why am I not surprised?
    Allowing the drug industry do their own clinical trials is like letting the fox guard the hen house. They famously manipulate the data. NIH should be running these trials and all drug trials, for that matter.
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?311149-1/bad-pharma


  27. - Six Degrees of Separation - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 10:35 am:

    ===To put things in perspective, NPR reports that COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. have now exceeded the 58,220 Americans who were killed in the Vietnam war.===

    To put things in further perspective, it took 19 years of the Southeast Asia War Games to total 58k casualties (1956-1975), plus a few MIAs afterward who were eventually confirmed dead. COVID-19 has done most of its damage in just a 2-month period.


  28. - Chatham Resident - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 11:13 am:

    Not necessarily Illinois-centric, but he may appear on the Illinois general election ballot this fall. Congressman Justin Amash of Michigan is considering a presidential run as a Libertarian:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/us/politics/justin-amash-president.html


  29. - Anyone Remember - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 11:18 am:

    “Nobody likes the Cardinals.” Unless they’re playing the Dodgers. Then the fans of every other team west of the Rockies likes the Cardinals.


  30. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 11:21 am:

    ===Unless they’re playing the Dodgers===

    You might wanna consult with the Plummer family about this.


  31. - Anyone Remember - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 12:03 pm:

    ” … consult with the Plummer family … ”

    With millions of people, there are ALWAYS outliers! /s


  32. - Practical Politics - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 12:07 pm:

    When major league baseball endured a lengthy players’ strike in 1981, but managed to finish the season. The format of the season and playoffs was altered in light of the circumstances (the season was divided into two halves and the division winners of each half were allowed to advance to the playoffs).

    I was thinking that maybe for 2020 only MLB rearrange the teams geographically and have the regular season played by teams from both leagues in various regions without traveling to and from the other regions. Then follow with the playoffs and WS.


  33. - @misterjayem - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 12:20 pm:

    “Most folks drastically underestimated the impact a month ago…”

    Most folks presumed that the federal government would at least attempt to mitigate the impact.

    – MrJM


  34. - TinyDancer(FKASue) - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 12:27 pm:

    Hmmmm. Seems NIH is running Gilead trial.
    What I said still goes.


  35. - Simple Simon - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 1:16 pm:

    As a lifelong downstater and Cards fan, I’ve never disliked the Cubs or rooted against them, unless they were playing us. A day in Wrigley bleachers is fantastic. Now the American League is another matter…


  36. - Chatham Resident - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 2:29 pm:

    “When major league baseball endured a lengthy players’ strike in 1981, but managed to finish the season. The format of the season and playoffs was altered in light of the circumstances (the season was divided into two halves and the division winners of each half were allowed to advance to the playoffs).”

    And that plan ended up costing the Cardinals in the old NL East and the Reds in the old NL West. Both teams finished second place in both halves of the ‘81 season, but IIRC the best overall records in their divisions, but neither qualified for the playoffs.

    But the Cards would follow up with an ‘82 World Series win, while the Reds tanked the next season and finished last in their division (IIRC 60 or so wins).


  37. - G'Kar - Wednesday, Apr 29, 20 @ 4:28 pm:

    At least two community colleges, Parkland and Illinois Valley, have been locked out of their main computer servers by hackers in the last week (ransomware?). Have there been reports of other Illinois community colleges been attacked recently?


  38. - South Side Voter - Thursday, Apr 30, 20 @ 1:37 am:

    “The Last Dance” has been the best thing to happen, during the quarantine. Stay safe.


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