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Wednesday, Jul 12, 2023 - Posted by Isabel Miller

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  1. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 8:04 am:

    ===Fired NU coach Pat Fitzgerald exploring breach-of-contract claims, lawyer Dan Webb says:===

    Have at it. Go crazy, can’t wait to see/read the depositions on racist and sexualized hazing that went on for years…

    Rick Telander has a nice piece in the Sun Times that is a must read for perspective.

    Like this lil shot and chaser…

    ===If this is what they do in the military — and Fitz loved the jarhead look, the Army allusions, the SEAL training, the camouflage, etc. — then join a military branch and go for it.===

    Fitzgerald was ALWAYS a bad dude… and like all bullies sunshine was the disinfectant

    Bless the student newspaper for making a difference to protect students, and student athletes where the administration first failed.

    Link;

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/7/10/23790656/clueless-nu-finally-gets-it-right-and-did-what-it-had-to-do-fire-fitzgerald


  2. - Flyin'Elvis'-Utah Chapter - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 8:20 am:

    As was noted by an ESPN talking head yesterday, anyone else getting a tip of the iceberg feel about this Northwestern fiasco?


  3. - Torco Sign - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 8:24 am:

    While prevalent, contrary to what some knuckleheads believe, you don’t actually need hazing to be a good sport team. There are positive exercises to do out in the open. Or you can do nothing. Lots of sports teams, similar to other groups, succeed despite members not being great friends.


  4. - JoanP - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 8:30 am:

    = Northwestern University made some unusual, bizarre decisions in the past week that seriously have damaged Pat Fitzgerald’s reputation =

    I think he’s done a pretty good job of that himself.

    If Fitzgerald is smart, he’ll take his severance and go quietly.


  5. - Amalia - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 8:33 am:

    see that Dan Proft and Amy are in on the attack of the university saying that a class on some sexual issues is ok but the hazing….


  6. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 8:33 am:

    ===that seriously have damaged Pat Fitzgerald’s reputation===

    Just wait for the depositionS… plural.

    Yep. Go quietly, go be an assistant coach somewhere, get rehabbed to circle back as a head coach. The industry of coaching takes care of its own… but why make yourself more vilified with sworn statements that Fitzgerald is a bad guy?


  7. - Stormsw7706 - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 8:37 am:

    Mr. Norman is missing the boat. Helping immigrants doesn’t undermine Black progress. That’s an argument you might hear from whites talking about black progress. Both are wrong and pretty offensive.


  8. - Dutch - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 8:48 am:

    Does this apply to legal and illegal immigrants


  9. - Lincoln Lad - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 8:50 am:

    Mr. Mapes - Take a plea… you want to spend as little time in jail as you can. You made a mistake out of a sense of loyalty. OK - but don’t go to jail for it. Plead and cooperate.


  10. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 9:03 am:

    There was a thing where MJM was a “Michael Corleone” type of piper of politics, and loyalty, and “his people”, but the thing with all that, be it a book or film on a character like Michael, the Michael Madigan that is real and being loyal as Mapes is/was means real prison time, and there’s no “fast forward years later”, those days in prison are real.

    You can’t be a victim to questioning when immunity was offered, and you choose loyalty over truth.

    The old ways are dying, dead, and buried. Cell phones, emails, video surveillance, the actual technology of investigation makes the meme “never talk in the phone” seems so silly now

    It’s not that it’s a new world, it’s that the old world is over


  11. - Homebody - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 9:12 am:

    == see that Dan Proft and Amy are in on the attack of the university saying that a class on some sexual issues is ok but the hazing…. ==

    As usual, certain conservatives can’t understand consent. This isn’t even particularly nuanced(banned punctuation) It would be like comparing stabbing someone with a class on how to perform surgery.


  12. - JS Mill - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 9:22 am:

    =* Tribune | Northwestern University had many anti-hazing tools in place before the football scandal. So what went wrong?=

    People. People went wrong.

    Also, none of the other coaches on staff were dismissed? If it is possible, that may be the oddest development yet.


  13. - Lincoln Lad - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 9:33 am:

    Does MJM feel any remorse as he watches loyal lieutenants face prison rather than betray him? If I were one of them, I’d like to know that there is at least some remorse on behalf of ‘himself’. Clearly the belief that they’ll beat this somehow has to have faded.


  14. - Amalia - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 9:33 am:

    @Homebody, great analogy. looked up the roster of the team. there’s a Uihlein on it.


  15. - Dirty Red - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 9:53 am:

    Who does Dan Webb’s press these days? Quite a call out in that Tribune headline.


  16. - Ducky LaMoore - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 11:07 am:

    “ If Fitzgerald is smart, he’ll take his severance and go quietly.”

    I somewhat disagree. Fitzgerald was suspended for two weeks. That was the university’s punishment for what he had done. With no new allegations, they fired him. If there was documentation of his suspension as punishment from the investigation, then his firing was unwarranted. He would be owed the full amount. And he should try to get it. Because as furious as I am at him, the board and administration has my focus. They have handled this unimaginably poorly.


  17. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 11:08 am:

    ===With no new allegations===

    1) You don’t know that; 2) Firing someone for cause because he did not know about awful things going on right in front of him is valid.


  18. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 11:15 am:

    - Ducky LaMoore -

    Please refer to the university’s statement for the change in status.

    Also, if Fitzgerald wants to work again, sooner than later, more information that will be used to show Fitzgerald’s failures and toxic culture will not help.

    It’s the difference between coaching in a Power 5 conference or in the “MAC conference”, and that’s not a put down, that’s honesty to the two stages and their differences.

    I’d read Telander and his framing of Fitzgerald and what was.


  19. - Lincoln Lad - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 11:20 am:

    Why isn’t Northwestern better than all this? The cheerleader scandal… the baseball coach… Fitzgerald… This is a great and proud institution, how does it get all this so terribly wrong and handle it all so incredibly poorly?


  20. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 11:42 am:

    The credit, lest we forget, is to the NU Student Newspaper that didn’t let a “Friday News Dump” deter them from reporting on and applying pressure to the Administration.

    Students protecting students when a coach promoted heinous hazing and only suffered a suspension… that’s powerful journalism


  21. - Hannibal Lecter - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 11:54 am:

    === Why isn’t Northwestern better than all this? The cheerleader scandal… the baseball coach… Fitzgerald… This is a great and proud institution, how does it get all this so terribly wrong and handle it all so incredibly poorly? ===

    Because college athletics is the tail that wags the dog for most universities in this country. It makes so much money that most administrations generally let the AD and highly paid coaches handle everything.


  22. - Hannibal Lecter - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 11:55 am:

    === The credit, lest we forget, is to the NU Student Newspaper that didn’t let a “Friday News Dump” deter them from reporting on and applying pressure to the Administration. ===

    Willy, don’t forget that NU has one of the more robust journalism programs in the country. Just saying.


  23. - Politix - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 12:17 pm:

    =Because as furious as I am at him, the board and administration has my focus.=

    Cool. For everyone else, the focus is on the victims and protecting future players. The last thing the world needed was another arrogant football coach, another coach refusing to be accountable, another complicit youth “leader.” It’s rampant and makes me fearful for my son who plays football.


  24. - JS Mill - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 12:18 pm:

    =The credit, lest we forget, is to the NU Student Newspaper that didn’t let a “Friday News Dump” deter them from reporting on and applying pressure to the Administration.=

    While I am a bit of a cynic when it comes to the sensibilities of today’s college student, this group got it right. And did some real journalistic work, unlike most news organizations today.

    I remember when I was an undergrad at NIU and the student newspaper’s investigation led to the ouster of the school president. IIRC, he spent in excess of $100k on painting and decorating the president’s house in the early 1980’s.


  25. - cermak_rd - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 12:51 pm:

    TIL, you could previously refuse to sell your home to someone based on immigration status. I have never heard of this and am pretty sure I have heard of people selling property to people who don’t even live in the US.

    I honestly thought it was just a process of everyone enters an offer and the buyer picks the highest one regardless.


  26. - Cool Papa Bell - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 3:32 pm:

    = The Bear =

    I stopped reading because I haven’t seen all of season 2 yet. First - the show is terrific.

    The acting and cast and writing is amazing. So far season 2 is better than the first (The start of season one is so harsh and frenetic is not an “easy’ watch). If you haven’t seen it please check it out.

    The show is an amazing love letter to Chicago and hard working real people. The way music is incorporated into the show is second to none.


  27. - Ducky LaMoore - Wednesday, Jul 12, 23 @ 7:09 pm:

    “ 1) You don’t know that”

    Very true. I don’t know that. But the university should have. They hired a high-priced attorney to conduct an investigation. If a student reporter can dig up more dirt than that attorney, it’s on them. And they should pay for it.


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