It could take a while, or maybe not
Friday, Feb 7, 2025 - Posted by Rich Miller * Some excitement at the MJM trial today… ![]() * False alarm… ![]() * So, what’s this about?… ![]() The jury instructions on this point are here. * More… ![]() * So, when will this thing end? Nobody truly knows… ![]() Hang loose.
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- Donnie Elgin - Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 1:10 pm:
If they are hung up on whether ” salaries paid “by means of bribery” can be considered a “valuable thing” or “something of value.” then it is not looking good for MJM
- JB13 - Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 1:24 pm:
That is not a juror question you want to see if you are charged with anything related to bribery
- Remember the Alamo II - Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 1:46 pm:
I wouldn’t try to read too much into this. The only thing that is clear from these notes are that the jurors are taking their duties seriously and are putting in the work.
- DEE - Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 1:57 pm:
Couldn’t they Zoom in Judge Blakey to decide this instead of a ’substitute’ who, I assume, did not sit through the entire trial and instruction conference?
- Felonious Gru - Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 1:59 pm:
That is a circular definition of “bribery.”
If I am an elected official who owns a trucking business, and someone hires my trucking business, that is not a “bribe.” It is not even a bribe if they are hoping to curry favor with me. It is only a bribe if they pay me more than fair market value for my services, with the intent to influence a specific public action.
My regular trucking fees are bona fide.
Atleast, that is how we have treated ethics for centuries.
Otherwise, everyone renting a room at a Trump hotel is potentially guilty of bribery.
- Give Us Barrabbas - Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 2:34 pm:
Depends on if it’s frick’en golden.
- Donnie Elgin - Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 2:42 pm:
=That is a circular definition of “bribery.”=
“Judge Chang says “a bona fide salary that’s paid in the usual course of business — that’s not a thing of value” under the laws in question.
“The flip side … is that salary, wages fees … paid for a job obtained by means of bribery, that’s not bona fide.”"
It is straight from the statute
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/666