42 Comments » - Irreverent - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:08 pm: I’m a little disappointed that he’s playing the Republicans’ game at all, but at least he’s not rolling over like Durbin. - Irreverent - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:09 pm: Add “Nikki Budzinski” to the rolling over crowd. That “Thank you ICE” resolution was disgraceful. - Candy Dogood - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:13 pm: I don’t want to share my actual thoughts for fear of my biggest concern for the Governor coming to pass. - Excitable Boy - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:14 pm: - I’m a little disappointed that he’s playing the Republicans’ game at all - It’s not a game, and Democrats need to push back against these liars. Ignoring them is the same as lying down. - Irreverent - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:18 pm: @Excitable They want to pull him in and play stupid games until they get a single sound bite for their followers. R politicians know the truth. They also know their followers don’t care what the truth is. Legitimizing their circus don’t strike me as “pushing back.” - Incandenza - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:24 pm: == I don’t want to share my actual thoughts for fear of my biggest concern for the Governor coming to pass. == Genuinely. The name Navalny comes to mind - LOL - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:24 pm: The committee has subpoena power. It was he willingly goes or they force him and say he was scared. - Excitable Boy - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:32 pm: - Legitimizing their circus don’t strike me as “pushing back.” - This is the argument that has put these people in power. Whether you like it they’ve been legitimized by being elected. You speak truth to power, you don’t pretend it doesn’t exist. - Demoralized - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:36 pm: ==Whether you like it they’ve been legitimized by being elected.== Nothing scares me more than the thought of the tens of millions of Americans who buy into what they are selling. They are drinking the kool aid right up. - Irreverent - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:37 pm: It’s a legitimate political circus. That is not legitimate governance. - Dotnonymous x - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:48 pm: - It’s not a game, and Democrats need to push back against these liars. Ignoring them is the same as lying down. - Silence counts as support…always. Attempting to avoid an unavoidable fight is an act of cowardice…always. - 40,000 ft - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:51 pm: I consider myself a lean-right centrist, wrapped in my faith. I’m not sure I understand what “the truth” is that Republicans are supposed to know., as mentioned in above comments. Is the truth that ignoring immigration laws, to the detriment of many things, is acceptable? I fundamentally disagree with that position. There needs to be genuine compromise on all this because encouraging a borderless, post-national country, and rioting to promote it, is not acceptable. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:54 pm: ===encouraging a borderless, post-national country=== Is anyone with any real power actually doing that? - Dotnonymous x - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 12:56 pm: I want JB Pritzker to talk back…talk over them…tell them they are terrible people…put the brass nucks on!…laugh in their faces…BEAR Down! - Rudy’s teeth - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:06 pm: The cruel, abusive rhetoric coming from certain sectors is overwhelming. Never before in my lifetime has political theater been so toxic. It is never about working towards common ground but creating paths to continue turmoil and angst in the country and nation. - 40,000 ft - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:08 pm: Rich, yes. It’s actually the motivation behind the various global NGO migration pipelines. From my old political science classes, the basic argument is that financial capital moves mostly freely across borders and therefore human capital should be allowed to also move freely. The problem I see with this, I don’t want to be considered someone’s human capital, or any other individuals. The predatory nature of large owners of labor capital doesn’t have a good track record. Do an ai search on postnational financial capital and human capital. It’s interesting stuff to me, and provides a framework for why there’s so much power involved with the migration topic. To me, it’s virtuous to be against this. - Irreverent - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:15 pm: Do unsupported conspiracy theories fall under the umbrella of “rumor-mongering, disinformation?” - Dotnonymous x - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:15 pm: - I consider myself a lean-right centrist, wrapped in my faith. - I can see through your wrapper. - Excitable Boy - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:19 pm: - That is not legitimate governance. - Yet it’s the governance we have, with all the real life consequences. - Pot calling kettle - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:26 pm: ==The predatory nature of large owners of labor capital doesn’t have a good track record.== You are on the right track. The current immigration system creates and favors “large owners of labor capital” and is very much out of date and in need of serious reform. Republicans (and some Dems) and their big business backers oppose a more rational and fair system for a reason. They prefer undocumented workers because those workers can be paid substandard (even less than legal) wages & benefits (often, they are denied their promised paycheck), cannot organize, and cannot complain about working conditions - all because they have the threat of being reported and deported hanging over their heads. In addition, folks that in the past would have stayed in the US seasonally to work and gone home in the off season to be with their families are now more likely to stay in the US and bring in their families because it is so difficult to cross. What we need is a system that allows more workers in (we need them) via legal routes, which should include seasonal workers and family migration. Those numbers should be tied to need (both employers and migrants) rather than countries we want people to migrate from based on outdated, racist policies. Legal migrants would be able to demand higher wages and benefits, organize, and report unsafe working conditions. And, the “labor capitol” would remain in the hands of the workers rather than the employers. - Norseman - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:32 pm: Playing the MAGA game or not, this will be good practice for JB if he’s serious about a presidential politics. If he hits a triple or home run, then maybe his is a viable guy. If not, IL needs his continued leadership. - Pundent - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:34 pm: =Legitimizing their circus don’t strike me as “pushing back.”= Validating the circus by refusing to appear carries its own set of consequences. But I also think that Pritzker is up to the task of exposing and embarrassing the Republicans. - Norseman - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:34 pm: “he is a viable …” - 40,000 ft - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:44 pm: Pot, I mostly agree with you. Where I differ is that I think the left/right, Dem/GOP labels are an intentional distraction. It works with a lot of people, too. Imo, I think there are good people on both sides that don’t want to abuse other human beings. There does need to be more awareness in the electorate that the “abuse” wrought on society is felt by the residents and the migrants. - Pundent - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:45 pm: =Is the truth that ignoring immigration laws, to the detriment of many things, is acceptable? I fundamentally disagree with that position.= The truth is demonizing immigrants as rapists and murders and broad brushing protesters as violent thugs as cover for a racist agenda. It has nothing to do with the exploitation of workers. And it’s often wrapped in faith which makes it even more abhorrent. It is not a difference of political beliefs. It’s basic human decency. - Steve - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:47 pm: This will be practice for JB (if he decides to run for president). He will have to confront an opposition party which he really doesn’t have in Illinois. - Sheesh - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:51 pm: “my faith” and “it’s virtuous to be against this” Leviticus 19:34, Matthew 25:35, 25:40, etc. seem to disagree, but maybe that isn’t the faith you espouse. Or do you rely on “ai search” for moral guidance as well? - Steve Rogers - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 1:54 pm: “rioting to promote it, is not acceptable” Like January 6, 2021? - Give Us Barabbas - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 2:05 pm: The redhat legislators think that they can skewer JB with loaded questions and prepared speeches. They have no idea what they’re in for. He is a pleasant guy day to day, but with logic and hard facts and the poise if a debater, he’s going to take his questioners apart like a rotisserie chicken from Walmart. They are not going to get the sound bite they want. - ArchPundit - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 2:08 pm: ===Is the truth that ignoring immigration laws, to the detriment of many things, is acceptable? I fundamentally disagree with that position. Immigration laws are solely a federal responsibility. Illinois obeys court issued subpoenas and the arresting of people who commit crimes. That’s the job of the state-not to do the feds job for them. - Sue - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 2:10 pm: Once upon a time, we the mushy middle were asked to consider the tragedy of a child or young adult for whom his/her country of citizenship is an alien place with a foreign language, or an older adult well-integrated into the US, perhaps married to an American citizen. We mushly-middlers had said, “OK, yes, let’s protect them.” But now Pritzker (and, a fact that has meant I would have cancelled my subscription except for inertia, the Trib reporters with their would-be sad stories) wants to afford the same anti-deportation protection to anyone at all, even someone who crossed over yesterday, or indeed criminals as long as they’re not the worst-of-the-worst. Trump holds, if not all of the cards, at least the majority of them, and Pritzker is doing a real injustice to those most deserving of his help by not negotiating a way to protecting them, and playing some game of chicken instead. - ArchPundit - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 2:15 pm: =—borderless, post-national country, and rioting to promote it, is not acceptable. No one is proposing a borderless, post-national country outside of a few academics and some activists. It’s just not a part of any serious debate and that kind of strawman obscures the actual debate that should be occurring about a comprehensive and humane immigration policy. ICE was created to address the inadequacies in tracking down actual terrorists after 9-11 and serious criminals who are not legally here. It is now going after people attending their immigration related hearings and day laborers. In doing so they are apparently so inept at they needed to call in the US Marines. This is pathetically weak and good on the Governor for going to explain that Illinois enforces criminal law, but leaves the feds job of enforcing immigration to the feds. - Frida's Boss - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 2:34 pm: JB is much better on the mic than most DC critters think. He came from a much larger private sector background than they did. He has had to run statewide for office in the 6th largest state in the nation instead of in rural districts in small states. He went to private boarding schools and is highly educated. If these members aren’t careful and think their DC staffers will get them a bunch of gotcha questions, they will be mistaken. And they will be the ones embarrassed in the clips. - Meanwhile in Chicago - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 2:49 pm: There is Holiday Inn on South Cicero Avenue, near Midway Airport, that is still functioning as a migrant shelter. Illinois is quietly picking up the tabs. No end appears in sight. Delivery trucks keep supplying the hotel. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 3:05 pm: ===we the mushy middle=== You’ve been a hardcore partisan since you started commenting here. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 3:06 pm: Also, try not to speak for large groups of people here. Makes you look goofy. - I-55 Fanatic - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 4:19 pm: “Do an ai search on…” Please get serious and gather your facts from real life like the rest of us. - Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 4:47 pm: === From my old political science classes, the basic argument is that financial capital moves mostly freely across borders and therefore human capital should be allowed to also move freely. === A) Let’s side aside arguments made by graduate students and college professors; B) Anyone that thinks “capital moves mostly freely” is unfamiliar with banking laws and the tax code. C) The US has a massive demand for labor that the domestic labor market cannot meet. Even with the current supply of undocumented labor, the construction industry has a shortage of 723K workers, according to the National Homebuilders Association. D) Our antiquated, lethargic, inefficient immigration system has not and cannot keep pace with the demands of our national economy. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 6:04 pm: ===Do an ai search on=== Hard pass. - It's always Sunny in Illinois - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 7:32 pm: JB is much better on the mic than most DC critters think. Mr Pritzker is a “Reader” not a good debater or extemporaneous speaker……see his New Hampshire Fiery speech or his recent budget address…..he will regurgitate three or four talking points he paid for in his lawyered up/consultant preparation for the hearing. He’s not a national candidate…… - Pundent - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 8:21 pm: =Mr Pritzker is a “Reader” not a good debater or extemporaneous speaker= A repeated talking point projected on Democrats from the right while ignoring the daily word salad offered up by their leader. Brandon Johnson held his own against this three ring circus so I think Pritzker will be just fine. And his opponents are fundamentally lazy so he has that going for him as well. - Anyone Remember - Wednesday, Jun 11, 25 @ 9:37 pm: I’d like to see Pritzker “educate them” on the difference between judicially issued and bureaucrat signed warrants. Bonus points if he mentions that bureaucrat signed warrants’ problems were exposed (during the 1998 IRS Hearings) by the GOP controlled Senate … TrackBack URI Anonymous commenters, uncivil comments, rumor-mongering, disinformation and profanity of any kind will be deleted. Name/Nickname - Required (required) E-mail - Not required (required) URL - Not required