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Trump on Chicago, Pritzker

Monday, Nov 3, 2025 - Posted by Rich Miller

* From the full, unedited transcript of last night’s episode of 60 Minutes

NORAH O’DONNELL: Immigration. I mean, you campaigned on immigration. You largely won the election on a promise to close the border–

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Did great job, don’t you think?

NORAH O’DONNELL: –and you succeeded on that. Illegal crossings at the Southern border are at a 55-year low. Want to ask you about this. More recently, Americans have been watching videos of ICE tackling a young mother, tear gas being used in a Chicago residential neighborhood, and the smashing of car windows. Have some of these raids gone too far?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: No. I think they haven’t gone far enough because we’ve been held back by the– by the judges, by the liberal judges that were put in by Biden and by Obama. We’ve been held–

NORAH O’DONNELL: You’re okay with those tactics?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Yeah, because you have to get the people out. You know, you have to look at the people. Many of them are murderers. Many of them are people that were thrown outta their countries because they were, you know, criminals. Many of them are people from jails and prisons. Many of them are people from frankly mental institutions. I feel badly about that, but they’re released from insane asylums. You know why? Because they’re killers. […]

NORAH O’DONNELL: This past Tuesday, while speaking to American troops in Japan, you talked about U.S. cities that are having trouble with crime. And you said, “If we need more than the National Guard, we’ll send more than the National Guard.” What does that mean, send more than the National Guard?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Well, if you had to send in the Army or if you had to send in the Marines, I’d do that in a heartbeat. You know, you have a thing called the Insurrection Act. You know that, right?

NORAH O’DONNELL: Uh-huh.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Do you know that I could use that immediately and no judge can even challenge you on that. But I haven’t chosen to do it because I haven’t felt we need it. Do you know that we have a place called Chicago that, with a very bad governor. They threw him outta the family business. He became governor. Do you know that 4,000 people were murdered during his governorship. 4,000 people were murdered during his governorship, and yet he won’t let us bring in the National Guard. He won’t let us bring in– in Chicago–

NORAH O’DONNELL: But when you say, “Send in more than the National Guard,” what does that mean?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Well, more would be Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines.

NORAH O’DONNELL: So you’re gonna send the military into American cities?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Well, if I wanted to I could, if I want to use the Insurrection Act. Do you know how many presidents–

NORAH O’DONNELL: Will you– what would be the–

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: No, no.

NORAH O’DONNELL: What would– what would cause you to do that?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Do you know how many presidents have used the Insurrection Act?

NORAH O’DONNELL: Tell me.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Almost 50% of ‘em. Do you know that some of the presidents, recent ones, have used it 28 times? Twenty-eight times. The Insurrection Act has been used routinely by presidents. I haven’t chosen to use it, but if I– because I’ve done well without it. But if I needed it, I could do it. And if I needed it, that would mean I could bring in the Army, the Marines, I could bring in whoever I want. But I haven’t chosen to use it. I hope you give me credit for that. […]

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Well, let me just say, cashless bail is a disaster. It’s gotta be changed. Sanctuary cities really have to be changed. They’re sanctuary, you know what they’re sanctuary for? Criminals. Things– some basic things have to be changed. But one of the things I really have focused on is making Chicago great again.

Making– and we’re just getting started in Chicago. But what we did in D.C., where we took D.C. from being so bad to so beautiful, such good– the restaurants are booming. You can’t get into a restaurant. They were closing and now they’re all opening every– you can’t get a restaurant now.

You can’t get into a restaurant. But you c– if you wanna buy a restaurant or– or own a restaurant you almost can’t find it. I wanna make this happen all over the country. I want it to be like that in New York, in L.A., in Chicago. I wanna do it as much as you can.

Deep breaths before commenting.

…Adding… The Insurrection Act has been invoked in response to 30 crises. From a subscriber: It was last invoked in 1992 in response to a request from the CA Gov. No president has unilaterally involved the insurrection act against a state’s wishes since Lyndon Johnson did so to provide protection for civil rights activists in Alabama marching from Selma to Montgomery in 1965.

       

17 Comments »
  1. - CA-HOON! - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 12:50 pm:

    He said he wants to send the military into American cities and use them against American citizens.

    Believe him, and take necessary measures to be prepared for the worst, because as he just described the worst is yet to come.


  2. - Loyal Virus - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 12:51 pm:

    I tried to take a deep breath and my head exploded.


  3. - Larry Bowa Jr. - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 12:59 pm:

    “we’re just getting started in Chicago.”

    I said this last week and some were incredulous. Feel free to consult the history of the 20th century - this ratchet turns in only one direction, and that’s why it is going to continue. Stephen Miller loves that people in Chicago and other cities are walking outside our houses and seeing 5 helicopters overhead. The administration thinks that’s how people who live in cities deserve to live, in eternal punishment for betraying the true Blood & Soil of America.
    I don’t know how any of this toothpaste gets put back in the tube. That is probably not possible at this point in the acceleration.


  4. - Rudy’s teeth - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 1:02 pm:

    Rich, thanks for posting this excerpt from last night’s telecast. I couldn’t force myself to watch the entire episode. Reading his words is somewhat of a buffer from hearing his voice. Shaking my head.


  5. - TooManyJens - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 1:09 pm:

    Who’s going to be the first reporter to ask Trump if he thinks “asylum seekers” are people who were let out of insane asylums? Because he really does seem to.

    He is, of course, lying about DC. The violent crime rate fell at about the same rate it had been falling before he sent in the NG, and tourism (including restaurants) took a hit. Homeless people got swept off the streets, which I guess is good as long as you don’t care about what happens to them next. The real gain seems to be that theft decreased pretty dramatically. So, the trade-off is troops on the street and less tourism for fewer thefts. I know which one I’d choose.


  6. - Morty - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 1:09 pm:

    Way past time for the 25th Amendment to be invoked


  7. - Lefty Lefty - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 1:12 pm:

    In case anyone isn’t aware, 2/3 of the interview including (I believe - I didn’t watch it and won’t due to the journalistic malpractice by Ms. O’Donnell) this excerpt was not telecast.

    I could count all the lies just in this one segment but I have a company to tend to.


  8. - RNUG - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 1:29 pm:

    As I said previously and not so diplomatically, I see this as partially as a war of words between two egotistical multi-million (if not billion) aires. Definitely bare knuckle politics being played. JB was being a bit more reserved, but that seems to have gone by the wayside. And I can’t help thinking both of them seem to just keep egging each other on. I don’t see cooler heads prevailing any time soon; even the various courts seem to be mostly falling along partisan lines so they don’t seem to be helping cool things off either.

    At least I have plenty of popcorn for the show …


  9. - Excitable Boy - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 1:40 pm:

    - And I can’t help thinking both of them seem to just keep egging each other on. -

    Trump is chomping at the bit to use the military on American citizens. Pritzker said a bad word. These things aren’t equal.


  10. - Kenny Steele - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 1:52 pm:

    Norah O’Donnell and 60 Minutes is sympathetic to MAGA?

    Great analysis.


  11. - JoanP - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 2:45 pm:

    = Way past time for the 25th Amendment to be invoked =

    And who do you think is going to do that? It requires “the Vice President and a majority of the principal officers of the executive departments” to tell Congress that he’s unable to discharge the duties of POTUS.

    I’m not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.


  12. - Three Dimensional Checkers - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 3:12 pm:

    ===The Insurrection Act has been invoked in response to 30 crises. From a subscriber: It was last invoked in 1992 in response to a request from the CA Gov. No president has unilaterally involved the insurrection act against a state’s wishes since Lyndon Johnson did so to provide protection for civil rights activists in Alabama marching from Selma to Montgomery in 1965.===

    I am sure the South remembers this too. I do not think there are 10th Amendment or federalism issues here. There is no insurrection. Lots of people trying to gaslight others into believing there is one or foment one, but no insurrection exists. It is a factual issue, not a constitutional one.


  13. - Interested Bystander - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 4:47 pm:

    The Brennan Center report at the link is enlightening. Of the 30, at least 8 were directly related to the civil war and its aftermath during reconstruction. In another 3 instances, it was invoked to protect minorities not round them up.


  14. - Archpundit - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 5:19 pm:

    ==At least I have plenty of popcorn for the show …

    The Trib has a good story about how a woman who is a citizen and was not a target was hit by DHS, dragged from her car, and then held after DHS claimed she attacked them. They then released her with no charges and the Trib went through the video.

    I don’t find that something to watch while enjoying popcorn personally.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/11/03/chicago-woman-collision-ice-accountability/


  15. - New Day - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 5:19 pm:

    “Norah O’Donnell and 60 Minutes is sympathetic to MAGA?

    Great analysis.”

    Are you aware that CBS was allowed to be taken over by Larry Ellison’s son’s company only after CBS booted Colbert off the air, fired the leadership of news and installed MAGA acolyte Bari Weiss, a person who had zero actual journalism training and zero actual journalism experience, to run CBS News. So, um, yea. CBS is no longer a legit news organization that can be trusted.


  16. - New Day - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 5:21 pm:

    JB is standing up for democratic principles and vulnerable people. Not sure how that translates to a war of egos in your book, but I guess you do you. Normally I find your analysis cogent but this is off the rails.


  17. - New Day - Monday, Nov 3, 25 @ 5:35 pm:

    That last comment was directed at the normally reliable RNUG


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