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*** LIVE *** Republican Day coverage

Thursday, Aug 16, 2012 - Posted by Rich Miller

* We have two videos from our live coverage of the State Fair’s Republican Day. First up, Leader Tom Cross on pension reform…

Next, Leader Chris Radogno on pension reform…

* On to the Scribble Live-enabled coverage. BlackBerry users click here. Everybody else can just kick back and watch. We’ll be posting more videos to this feed today as well…

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More factual problems with Quinn’s pension rhetoric

Thursday, Aug 16, 2012 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Gov. Quinn has been using this calculation a whole lot lately…

“Somebody who retired in 1992 from state employment with a $60,000 pension today under the current rules has $120,000 — and we just cannot afford this,” Gov. Pat Quinn said.

Prompted by some commenters, I surfed to MoneyChimp.com’s online compound interest calculator…

* I asked the governor’s communications director about this. Her e-mailed reply…

It NEARLY doubled.

But her own numbers confirmed the figure I got…

2012

$108,366.67

So, it looks like the governor has yet again made up some numbers to justify his pension proposal.

* Also, Fred Klonsky ran a letter from a suburban public school teacher at his blog…

Dear Governor Quinn,

I just saw you on the news using that word “reform” again. But what really got my attention was I heard you make the claim that a person who retired in 1990 with a pension of $60,000 would have a pension worth over $100,000 today. That’s a pretty sensational talking point you’ve got there! But just like your use of the word “reform” rings hollow, you might want to reexamine this talking point. Here’s why from a teacher’s perspective:

It is entirely probable that a teacher retired in 1990. I’m sure many did. These teachers certainly could have earned their full pension even as they retired in 1990. Although not all teacher retiring in 1990 earned their full pension, I’m sure many did. To earn a full pension, they probably started inspiring Illinois’ children in their classrooms beginning in 1955, or 35 years earlier. Of course these teachers would probably be around 87 years old now, if they are still fortunate enough have lived that long.

But even if they started teaching in 1955, and were 87 years old, and still alive, a teacher retiring in 1990 with a pension of $60,000 probably doesn’t exist. Why?

To have earned a full pension, this 87 year old former teacher would have had to have earned $80,000 a year. As a teacher. In 1990.

(To all the teachers reading this: please be respectful in your guffaws.)

I don’t profess to know all the salaries paid in the state to teachers in 1990, but I think you’d be hard pressed to find a school district in Illinois that paid $80,000 to their teachers in 1990. Maybe an administrator, or a north-shore district possibly. But it would be a very rare teacher indeed. I remember my first contract around this time was for $19,000 a year.

After all, that was 22 years ago. The Dow Jones index was below 4000. Gas cost around $1.40. The Cosby show was cool. You know – back in the day. Kind of like back in 1991 when Illinois legislative salaries were $37,270 a year. Today their salary is $67,876 plus additional compensation for any committees they chair or serve on. And that’s just for a six-month legislative session.

So if a legislator retired in 1990 and had a $60,000 pension that would be a very sensational talking point! But it would be a myth too.

So Governor Quinn, with all due respect, fix the real problems Springfield keeps ignoring. Stop the corporate give aways. Revise TIF districts. Reform Illinois’ regressive flat income tax system.

Leave the fictional 87-year old retirees alone.

…Adding… SJ-R…

The pension for a member of the State Employees’ Retirement System who also receives Social Security averaged $25,390 in 2011. The pension for those who do not averaged $28,740.

* Meanwhile, the Union League Club of Chicago wants the governor to keep calling legislators into special session until the pension issue is resolved. From a press release…

Should tomorrow’s special session of the Illinois General Assembly fail to resolve the fiscal crisis caused by the underfunding of the state’s five pension funds, the Union League Club of Chicago has called on Governor Pat Quinn and the General Assembly’s legislative leaders “to make the pension issue their top priority and to keep the legislature working in special sessions as long as necessary.”

In a resolution circulated this week to the Governor and all members of the General Assembly, the board of directors of the 133-year-old Club whose members are 5,000 men and women business, professional and civic leaders who primarily are Illinois residents, addressed the need for comprehensive action to address the “extraordinary fiscal crisis due in large measure to the underfunding of public employee pension liabilities.”

“All citizens of Illinois are looking to the state’s leadership to resolve this matter promptly. We expect meaningful action to restore the solvency of the state’s five pension systems,” said Guy F. Arvia, Club president.

While the resolution notes that the Club endorses no one plan over others to resolve the crisis, it calls on the state’s leaders for “fair and equitable action to be taken now.”

Noting the consequences of failure to resolve the fiscal crisis now, the Union League Club’s resolution predicted that the “good name and credit of the State of Illinois may suffer disastrous consequences in global credit markets, severely limiting our state’s ability to finance its operations and capital needs.”

The resolution is here.

Just for the record, I’m a member of the ULC, but I didn’t vote on this resolution. If I had voted, I would’ve cast my ballot as a “No.” I’d rather not waste my August going to meaningless special sessions.

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*** UPDATED x2 *** The perils of shorthand journalism

Thursday, Aug 16, 2012 - Posted by Rich Miller

* This AP brief is really misleading…

Republicans plan an Illinois State Fair rally that promises to be much calmer than the one held by Democrats.

Union protesters called Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn a liar and booed throughout his short speech Wednesday. They feel betrayed by his efforts to cancel raises, cut jobs and reduce retirement benefits.

Republicans don’t face the same type of internal conflicts. They’re largely united behind the idea of cutting costs and reducing pensions without shifting any of the expense to local school districts.

Republicans are not at all unified behind a single pension reform plan. Plenty of Republicans represent districts with large pockets of AFSCME members, more than a few represent college towns, and they all have lots of public school teacher voters.

They do seem united against the Democrats’ cost shifting plan, but even House GOP Leader Tom Cross said the other day that local school districts ought to pay for something…

Cross: School districts need to stop practice of giving raises at the end of careers. They need to absorb costs when they do that.

*** UPDATE 1 *** From a Pat Quinn press release…

“Today, as Illinois republicans rally at the State Fair, I urge them to rise to the occasion to pass comprehensive pension reform in Illinois.

“At the end of the spring session, republican leaders, who have long advocated for fiscal responsibility, supported a similar proposal that is now being sponsored by Rep. Elaine Nekritz. To ease republican concerns, we have extended the phase-in period to allow school districts and universities to assume their own negotiated salary costs over 12 years. This extended phase-in period will ensure that school districts and universities are responsible for their compensation packages, while preventing property tax increases.

“The statutorily-required pension payments guaranteed under the 1995 ramp make it very clear: inaction on pension reform is the greatest threat to property taxpayers.

“This fiscal year, the General Assembly cut education by $210 million. These cuts impact our students, while placing tremendous pressure on our school districts, universities and property taxpayers.

“Universities have indicated, in a public letter, that they support the Nekritz proposal and are willing to accept the phased-in cost realignment.

“Without comprehensive pension reform, Illinois is on track to spend more on pensions than education by fiscal year 2016. This is an unsustainable path that will not only shortchange our children when it comes to quality education, but also make the problem worse. Illinois’ unfunded liability will grow to $92 billion next year without bold action.

“Tomorrow, republicans and democrats have an opportunity to be honest with the taxpayers of our state. I urge them to put politics aside, rescue Illinois from empty promises that led to skyrocketing pension costs and pass comprehensive pension reform.”

*** UPDATE 2 *** Oops. I should’ve put this story here earlier…

House Speaker Michael Madigan called on Republicans Wednesday to do their “fair share” to help advance a partial solution to Illinois’ $83 billion pension crisis and warned a plan on Friday’s House agenda won’t pass with Democratic votes alone.

The Southwest Side Democrat’s statements cast further doubts on a package that Senate President John Cullerton (D-Chicago) favors but that House Republicans basically have ruled out.

House Minority Leader Tom Cross (R-Oswego) has balked at the Senate-passed proposal expected to be voted on Friday. It would roll back pension benefits for members and retirees in two of the state’s five retirement systems, a move Cross has said is not “comprehensive” enough.

Even though House Democrats hold a 64-vote majority in the House, Madigan insisted that he would not put 60 Democratic votes on the Cullerton plan, which would be enough to pass it in the House and send it to Quinn, and that Republicans would have to embrace the Senate plan for it to pass.

“I think there should be fair share. This is a very contentious issue, very complex, very difficult, and everybody should be involved in working on the problem, not looking for political excuses to avoid doing heavy lifting on a difficult issue,” Madigan said.

Madigan also seemed to put the onus on Quinn to pressure Cross to get behind the pension plan on Friday’s special-session agenda.

Quinn, meanwhile, intends to call all four legislative leaders together for a meeting Friday before the special session and sidestepped any mention of the Cullerton bill when talking Wednesday with reporters.

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