The man who shall not be named
Thursday, Aug 18, 2016 - Posted by Rich Miller
* Sun-Times…
[House Republican Leader Jim Durkin] said Trump might hurt in some races this November, and help in others. And Durkin said he’s still not ready to support the GOP presidential nominee.
“I’m not there yet,” Durkin told reporters. “I want to hear someone talk like a president and act like a president before I vote for one.”
State Senate Republican Leader Christine Radogno warned that a vote against Trump shouldn’t mean a vote against Republicans across the state. And she argued that members of both parties have doubts about their presidential nominees.
“We’d be silly not to say there’s mixed feelings about the top of the ticket. The great news is, though, that the other side has the same problem. I think we’re starting on kind of an even basis here,” Radogno said. “We may have people that love Trump and want to go out there and just vote for him. Our job is to say that’s great but don’t forget the rest of the ticket.”
On her own feelings about Trump, Radogno called her ballot “private,” but vowed that she wouldn’t vote for Hillary Clinton.
I fully agree that Trump could actually be helpful to the Republicans in some districts. But statewide? No.
A Republican poll taken July 12-13 found Clinton leading 46.4 to 32.5. Another GOP poll taken July 14-16 had Clinton up 51-33. A Democratic poll taken August 1-4 had Clinton up 51-32.
…Adding… I meant to post this, too, but somehow forgot. Notice anything missing from the front of the ILGOP State Fair tent?…
- Norseman - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 10:21 am:
The movie inference is so appropriate.
- Precinct Captain - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 10:27 am:
Who will Radogno and Durkin vote for? Will they skip the presidential section? Or will their self-righteous politicking all disappear as they vote straight ticket?
- Bobby Catalpa - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 10:28 am:
The site to follow for national (and statewide) numbers is — without question — fivethirtyeight:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#plus
- Southern Dawg - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 10:31 am:
“… the other side has the same problem.”
Not really. No.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 10:33 am:
To the update…
“If we had a Trump sign… “
- Wensicia - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 10:37 am:
==Clinton up 51-32==
That’s “kind of an even basis”?
- Bobby Catalpa - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 10:41 am:
After last night’s talk shows — and (for me, at least) spit takes — I learned a new phrase (something, I gather, was a Romney remnant from last cycle): poll-truthers.
The Trump peeps who deny polls, claim the polls are made up, and insist that the real measure of winnability of rally attendance. Because, you know, everybody who’s anybody is at a Trump rally.
I love it. It’s so totally zany that it’s almost charming.
- Belle - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 10:46 am:
If nothing else, I assume we’ve all learned that running for Prez seems easy in the Primary compared to the actual election.
- Sheesh - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 10:49 am:
There was a Trump yard sign up on Tuesday night. It was bottom left below Rodney Davis sign.
- Vole - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 11:00 am:
Missing: The Trump horse no one rode in on. Not even cow boy.
- LizPhairTax - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 11:01 am:
Sheesh +1. I was there with my kids on Tuesday afternoon. There was one next to the Durkin sign about the same size. In that planter.
- Whatever - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 11:03 am:
A sign for the “Recall Madigan” petition-signing table?
- G'Kar - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 11:04 am:
Unless it is one of the small signs I really can’t read, I don’t see one for Munger.
- Soccermom - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 11:24 am:
TRUMP. TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.TRUMP.
Vote for Duckworth.
- Mama - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 11:24 am:
Hmmm… Didn’t Durkin go to Trump’s convention and pledged his support?
- cover - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 11:27 am:
A “Term Limits Now” sign next to the Shimkus sign?
- Bill F. - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 11:37 am:
Can I be petty and take issue with IL GOP’s use of the outline of the state as a substitute for the letter O?
It’s in the “ILLINOIS” sign pictured above and in “Term Limits Now” signs they held at the fair yesterday.
The state isn’t really round. At all.
- Bleh - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 12:25 pm:
I don’t see a munger sign!
- Anonymous - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 12:48 pm:
Clinton has the polls, but Trump has the large and energetic crowds. No one is lining up to see Hillary as the gymnasiums and arenas seem close to empty when she appears.
- Norseman - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 12:53 pm:
=== Clinton has the polls, but Trump has the large and energetic crowds. No one is lining up to see Hillary as the gymnasiums and arenas seem close to empty when she appears. ===
After saying “who says,” the above is the line most Trump shills use.
When we start selecting presidents by rally attendance instead of the electoral college, then I’ll start being concerned.
- LessAnon? - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 2:01 pm:
No Johnson/Weld sign. Should have the actual GOP candidates’ sign up there!
- Last Bull Moose - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 2:26 pm:
The most ardent Trump voter and the most reluctant Hillary voter carry the same weight at the ballot box. Votes do not transmit intensity.
The trick is to get your supporters there. Trump seems to be energizing both sides. But he scaring the moderates and moving them to the polls to defeat him.
- Left of Central IL - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 3:11 pm:
“I’m not there yet,” Durkin told reporters. “I want to hear someone talk like a president and act like a president before I vote for one.”
He doesn’t care if he ACTUALLY IS Presidential
- MasterPiece - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 3:38 pm:
People? I don’t see any people.
- Demoralized - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 3:44 pm:
==Clinton has the polls, but Trump has the large and energetic crowds==
That’s nice. I’m not sure you’re aware but the number of votes one receives determines who wins.
- Saluki beancounter - Thursday, Aug 18, 16 @ 8:21 pm:
No Bost sign