Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » About that other poll
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
About that other poll

Thursday, Oct 30, 2008

* From Sneed

The numbers game: Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s favorability rating may be sinking, but a new poll shows it ain’t as bad as the Chicago Tribune reported.

• • To wit: Although a recent Trib poll claims Blago’s popularity has sunk to 13 percent, a new poll by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch pegs it at 32 percent.

I’m so happy that the governor’s people got somebody to write about that poll. They’ve been bugging me for a couple of days.

* But here’s the problem with the poll: It has consistently given Blagojevich higher job approval ratings than any other survey. The Tribune wasn’t the only other poll that showed Blagojevich’s numbers were low.

A recent poll commissioned by the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute had the governor’s job approval rating at 9.4 percent, far below the Tribune’s rating…

* Rasmussen’s latest poll had Blagojevich with an “excellent” job rating of zero and a “good” rating of 4.

* The Glengariff Group’s September poll had the governor’s approval rating at 23 percent, with almost 63 percent disapproving.

* That disapproval number is the key here.

The Post-Dispatch poll had Blagojevich’s disapproval rating at 66 percent, a number not mentioned by our friend at the Sun-Times. That’s horrible no matter what the approval rating is. The Tribune had his disapproval at 71 percent. Rasmussen’s disapproval rating was 65 percent. The PSI poll had a “poor” rating of 61 percent. And, as mentioned above, Glengariff’s disapproval rating was 63 percent.

So, the disapproval numbers are all pretty much the same. And they are all bad for the governor.

* But, what’s going on with the different approval ratings? The Post-Dispatch pollster offered an explanation

The Research 2000 poll has historically ranked Blagojevich’s favorability higher than most others. Pollster Del Ali speculated that may be in part because his poll asks respondents to choose among several categories of negative and positive approval, which may prompt more nuance in the answers.

Maybe so. One of other pollsters, Rasmussen, includes “fair” in the job approval rating. That option allows respondents to cop out. Blagojevich’s disapproval or approval ratings could be higher than reported.

Still, when one pollster consistently shows widely different results on a question than other pollsters, you gotta figure he’s an outllier.

* This is also important: The Post-Dispatch poll has, like other polling, showed a downward trend for Blagojevich during the past several months. He’s down two points since Research 2000’s September survey, and ten points from January. So, whatever the case with the approval/disapproval numbers, even that poll shows a tanking chief executive.

* One final point.

Both the Tribune and Rasmussen had lower ratings for Blagojevich than for President Bush. The Simon poll didn’t test Bush’s numbers. The Post-Dispatch’s pollster tried to use those Bush numbers to undermine the other polling

Ali also questioned the lowest rankings of some other polls. “I find it hard to believe a Democrat in a Democratic state would be less popular than (President) George Bush,” he said.

Rhodes is right

But Ali overlooks the fact that Bush surely still has some stalwart supporters among the state’s Republicans, while folks in both parties seem to hate the governor. After all, the stalemate in Springfield is between Democrats.

And so is Larry

[Del Ali’s comment was] one of the most clueless statements about Illinois politics I’ve seen in some time

Yep.

Thoughts?

- Posted by Rich Miller        

27 Comments
  1. - wordslinger - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:33 am:

    Cold comfort when you have to pitch a story that only 66% of the electorate think you stink rather than 71%.

    Reminds me of the Henny Youngman joke:

    “I went to the doctor. He said I had six months to live. Charged me $500. I didn’t have the $500, so he gave me another six months.”


  2. - Leroy - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:34 am:

    It would be interesting to see how Joe SixPack articulates why he thinks the governor is doing a poor job, or if he is just saying it because everyone else is.

    Some people hate the governor because he is a Democrat, some hate him because he is from Chicago, some hate him because he refuses to raise taxes, and some hate him because everyone else hates him.


  3. - Vote Quimby! - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:39 am:

    Has anyone ran Del Ali’s name through the FOB donor fund?


  4. - Jaded - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:41 am:

    Any way you slice it up Leroy, that is an awful lot of hate. It would be more intersting to hear those who think he is doing a good job defend that position.


  5. - Secret Square - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:46 am:

    And some hate him because he’s playing games with their livelihoods and even their physical safety. But that’s another story.


  6. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:48 am:

    Let’s try to tone it down a little. “Hate” is an awfully harsh word.

    Thanks.


  7. - Helpless - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:50 am:

    Polls mean nothing. Lets get to November 4th, and that will give us real number.


  8. - Heartless Libertarian - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:50 am:

    Leroy, what a bunch of crap. People hate the governor because he is a say everything, do nothing, blame the other guy sociopath. Why does the general assembly hate him? Because he doesn’t talk to them and he just expect them do what he says. You do have your usual people who will hate a gov just because he is from Chicago or a democrat, but in this state? Those people make up 5% of the 70% disapproval rating. People see Blago on the news, and they just ask themselves, “What in the world is wrong with this guy?”


  9. - Heartless Libertarian - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:51 am:

    *stricten hate from the record, replace with “don’t like.”


  10. - Tom B. - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:52 am:

    Dude, when you’re juiced about a 32% approval, you’re down in the dumps.


  11. - Greg - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:53 am:

    The governor’s office should attack the breadth of these polls. If the polls were nationwide, instead of only Illinois, bad name id would send Blago’s disapproval rating plummeting!


  12. - lincolnlover - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:56 am:

    Hate is a very harsh word and it has taken me a long time to use it against this man. He is recklessly playing with people’s lives for his own political motives. What he has done to social services, historic sites, parks and Pontiac Prison is a crime, at best. At worst, it is an extortion move to squeeze money from the GA. The thousands of people, workers and those who receive the services are paying the price. THAT is why I hate him and THAT is why I am working for impeachment.


  13. - Vote Quimby! - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:56 am:

    Some people *don’t like* him so much they’ve elected him governor twice!


  14. - Bill - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 11:00 am:

    ==I am working for impeachment. ==
    Whooaaa, I bet that strikes fear in Rod’s heart.
    Bring it on!


  15. - John Ghrist - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 11:04 am:

    It is not surprising that the gov’s popularity is down. Everything he does angers or polarizes people from closing state parks to other stupid ideas like relocating state employees. The fact that he cannot work with people from his own party to get things done in Springfield makes the state look like it’s run by a bunch of inept leaders. The citizens of this state won’t forget about those expensive helicopter flights so the gov could be home for dinner at night. If he did not plan to live in Springfield, why did he ever want to run for governor? The man puts his own political practices ahead of what’s right for the state. Every decision he makes probably has some sort of backroom dealing connected to it. If someone doesn’t cooperate with his policies, the present governor tries to find some way of closing something in that person’s district. I have written before about how the governor messed up my state career and life. My mailbox and answering machine is filled with worthless political junk mail and annoying phone calls everyday from self-serving people like the governor. I have never met an honest politician and don’t think they exist. Fitz, make room for the present gov in some posh jail somewhere right next to the previous one. Most people in this state including myself are tired of dirty politics and ones who think they are too smart to work in the system.


  16. - archpundit - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 11:05 am:

    For some context, the Research 2000 polls in Missouri have given Matt Blunt significantly higher approval ratings on average. They are very similar to other polls on other questions, but for some reason they have higher approval numbers.

    Having looked through the questions I have never seen anything that is a dead giveaway about why, but I think it’s safe to say Research 2000 House Effect on Approval Ratings has a positive bump usually.

    Also, for the record, I say really stupid things all of the time–Ali is a good pollster, it was just a really stupid thing to say.


  17. - archpundit - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 11:07 am:

    ===The governor’s office should attack the breadth of these polls. If the polls were nationwide, instead of only Illinois, bad name id would send Blago’s disapproval rating plummeting!

    Thanks for giving them the idea ;)


  18. - Truth - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 11:26 am:

    The Governor’s poll numbers are terrible because he is done. Let’s try to save the energy that’s being expended on hatred because he’s not worth it. It’ll be over soon enough.

    We have only to wait for the final chapter on Rod’s dismal legacy as Governor.

    Bill’s over the top, anonymous advocacy notwithstanding, Rod is not going to be in public life for much longer. Fitz will make sure of it.


  19. - Bill - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 11:36 am:

    we’ll see about that, Truthie!
    Fitz,Schmitz


  20. - Say WHAT? - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 12:18 pm:

    A 13% is actually higher than I would have guessed. They should settle for that and be thankful it isn’t -13.


  21. - Leroy - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 12:36 pm:

    Why dress it up, Rich? The venom I have seen here for the last 2-2.5 years cannot be described as anything other than pure hatred. Anyone who has tried to defend the man, or at least give him a fair shake has been instantly ridiculed. You want to talk about ‘harsh’? Heh…..

    If ‘hate’ makes you squirm, fine….’disapprove’ then.


  22. - DOMER - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 1:03 pm:

    Name one Governor in the US with approval rating over 50 percent. Last I looked there wasnt one. Dem or Repub.


  23. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 1:10 pm:

    ===Name one Governor in the US with approval rating over 50 percent. Last I looked there wasnt one. Dem or Repub.===

    Sarah Palin, for starters.


  24. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 1:14 pm:

    Also, DOMER, try looking things up before speaking. Go here and you’ll see a whole lot of governors have approval ratings over 50.

    Chet Culver, Kathleen Sebelius, Steve Beshear, Deval Patrick, Tim Pawlenty and Bill Richardson, to name just a few.

    Don’t be a goofball, please. The Internets and the Google are very easy tools to use.


  25. - BIG R.PH. - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 1:23 pm:

    Too bad we don’t have Parliamentary Government and we could call for elections and get rid of Blagoof!


  26. - DOMER - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 9:20 pm:

    I stand corrected. You are right. I had heard that statistic on a radio program. I either misheard the context or they were wrong. I should have looked it up myself.

    According to the website you referenced, 22 Governors have an approval rating above 50%. Still less than have. And they have Blagojevichs approval rating at 36%. Not great, but also not 13%.


  27. - archpundit - Thursday, Oct 30, 08 @ 10:41 pm:

    36% was in 2005. That wasn’t even the last poll they did.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Janus apparently no longer loves his state job, hires on with Illinois Policy Institute
* Reader comments closed for the weekend
* Pritzker meets with moms who've lost their kids to street violence, police shootings
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Fundraiser list
* Question of the day
* Caption contest!
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Campaign stuff: Morrison; Ives; Skillicorn; Nybo; Rooney; Curran; Breen; Frese
* "And admit that the waters/Around you have grown"
* A tiny bit of good news from Moody's
* Proft files suit so his independent expenditure committee can coordinate with campaigns after caps busted
* Cook shifts governor's race from "Toss Up" to "Lean Democrat" - Third-party candidates "the tipping point"
* Unsolicited advice
* The impasse and the damage done
* Entire IPHCA executive committee resigns, lawyer let go after racism controversy
* Chicago to get its first public law school, but is it a wise move?
* Doom and gloom abounds, but a new pension idea emerges
* Another lawsuit filed in Quincy veterans' home deaths: "For a year and a half, he loved that place. And it killed him"
* *** LIVE COVERAGE ***
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Yesterday's stories

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............
<


Loading


* McDaniel-Hale: The decision to smoke is a perso.....
* Barickman Cautious About Trump Impact on IL Ele.....
* Democrats try to rebuild the state party from t.....
* New law better protects DCFS workers..
* Illinois Makes Its IT Department a Permanent Fi.....
* Dyslexia guidebook bill signed into law..
* Naperville Now 07-20-18..
* Is Pritzker the beginning of the end for Madigan?..
* How Illinois hospital nurses are improving care.....
* WJBC Voices: Can we cancel the election for lac.....


* Northern Illinois man convicted of murdering sister-in-law
* Man cleared of murder has trouble depositing compensation
* UI seeks to improve access for transfer students
* Watch cop revive man during fentanyl scare at Illinois strip club
* AP FACT CHECK: Kansas not the ‘sanctuary state’ of Midwest
* Woman injured by lightning strike at Country Thunder
* UI seeks improving access for transfer students
* Cases handled by indicted 2 Chicago officers being dropped
* Family questions use of force in arrest of teen at festival
* Cooling towers disinfected after bacteria at state building

* Marginal amounts of legionella detected in Stratton Building
* Moody's gives Illinois finances a 'stable' outlook
* Illinois Army National Guard soldiers return home
* Marginal amouts of legionella detected in Stratton Building
* Under the Dome Podcast: Gun bills, Quincy, Trump-Putin reaction
* Incumbents hold big fundraising leads in central Illinois legislative races
* Springfield man wins Illinois State Police logo contest
* Rauner 'deeply troubled' by Trump's Helsinki comments
* Rauner signs bill to ease physician assistant hiring
* Bill taking Illinois out of voter registration system vetoed

* Home Run Pizza CEO dies
* Home Run Inn Pizza CEO dies
* Your neighbor isn't a business
* The future of the U.S. looks a lot like Chicago
* What's up at United? Hope, if not profit.


* Mark Janus quits state job for conservative think tank gig after landmark ruling
* Man suspected of shooting officer found, killed by police
* Youth event in Lake Co., blackberries. the Eastland: WWW Chicago outdoors
* Home Run Inn Pizza’s Joe Perrino dies—saw city as ‘pizza capital of the world’
* Rain doesn’t stop torch from lighting new Special Olympics monument
* Residents pick through rubble in Iowa after tornadoes
* MGM will use never-tested law to sue Vegas shooting victims
* Girl, 13, reported missing from Humboldt Park
* Cubs’ Jon Lester has worst outing of season as Matt Carpenter, Cards romp 18-5
* Woodstock woman struck by lightning at Country Thunder music festival


* Sanders and new Democratic star Ocasio-Cortez wade into GOP-heavy Kansas
* Pitchfork Music Fest 2018: 12 things we loved (and hated) from day 1
* Dodgers' big move puts ball in Theo Epstein's court to shore up Cubs pitching
* Matt Nagy says Bears await word from NFL, NFLPA before determining national anthem policy
* Officials investigating abuse claims by migrant children at Chicago-area shelter
* A scoreless ninth inning leaves one Cubs position player Happ-y
* Trump was taped talking of paying for Playboy model's story
* Following teen’s drowning, city takes steps that include posting red flag when lifeguards not on duty
* Cubs' Jon Lester tells the analytics crowd: 'Watch the game'
* 9 of 17 Missouri duck boat accident victims from one family


» The Week in Review: Public Outcry Over Police-Involved Shooting
» ‘Ali: A Life’; Sexual Harassment In Bars; NPR’s Sam Sanders
» WBEZ’s Chicago and Illinois News Roundup: July 20, 2018
» UIC To Acquire John Marshall Law School, Creating The City’s First Public Law School
» State Week: Russia Reactions, Gun Laws, Campaign Cash
» #660 PJ Morton & Opinions on Drake
» July 19, 2018 - Full Show
» Berwyn Homeowners Squeezed By School District Miscalculation
» How Conservatism Won In Wisconsin; Illinois Election Security; Special Olympics 50th Anniversary
» Illinois Prison Officials Accused of Abusing Transgender Inmate


* Scott Reeder: Understanding is what journalism should be about
* Counterpoint: His pick is bad news indeed for health care, women, consumers and unions
* Point: Kavanaugh is truly a 'judge's judge' and precisely what our nation needs
* Eugene Robinson: The 'deep state' stands between us and the abyss
* Marginal amounts of legionella detected in Stratton Building
* Moody's gives Illinois finances a 'stable' outlook
* Illinois Army National Guard soldiers return home
* Marginal amouts of legionella detected in Stratton Building
* Under the Dome Podcast: Gun bills, Quincy, Trump-Putin reaction
* Bernard Schoenburg: Bourne, Clark clash over missed votes


* Now showing: Blue Grass Drive-In Theater braces for first-ever RAGBRAI event
* PHOTOS: Relay For Life at Richland Community College
* Ground broken on FurEver Friends animal shelter
* One step at a time: Annual Relay for Life raises funds for cancer cure
* Air Force will try a program to retain pilots amid an ongoing shortage
* #DontNeed2: Campers with limb differences adapt sports skills for competition
* Nightlife to be absorbed by Carbondale Times
* Davenport, Cedar County nab "Great Place" designation
* Iowa whiskey producers also feeling tariffs’ impact
* Arsenal workforce to grow by 160


* Diaz has winning hit as Blue Jays beat Orioles 8-7 in 10
* Downtown Elburn goes back to 1955 for backdrop in HBO TV series shoot
* Ohtani resumes throwing as Angels hope for ligament health
* Northern Illinois man convicted of murdering sister-in-law
* Dietrich homers twice in Marlins' 6-5 win over Rays

* Nazis and anti-Semites slip through GOP pr...
* Chris Stirewalt Politics Editor for Fox Ne...
* Congressman Introduces Legislation for Per...
* House Members Look To Get Data On Hezbollah
* Tech quiet on Trump's EU barb
* News Editor at Townhall.com Katie Pavlich,...
* Pro-Life Democrats Hold National Conventio...
* Conference Will Bring Together Pro-Life De...
* Black Conservatives Kicked Out of Uber Ove...
* During St. Louis visit, Pence highlights t...

* How area members of Congress voted on voti......
* Family reunifications: 450 down, roughly 1......
* Ballot security battle heats up already ho......
* In IL-6, Roskam and Casten clash over elec......
* GOP accuses Dems of stalling Kavanaugh aft......

* Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez B......
* How area members of Congress voted on voti......
* Will Route 66 become a National Historic T......
* Alton Fire Department awarded $227273 grant...
* Sen. Duckworth Responds to Lazare's Di......

* The sad state of the sandwich at Logan Square deli Rosie’s Sidekick
* Rahm and Rauner's phony Ryan feud: Don’t be fooled by the Twitter barbs
* Lies, Damned Lies and Rankings
* 5 things every college must know about cloud computing
* Accreditor clears path for $1.9 billion Strayer-Capella merger
* EdX Survey Finds That about 1/3 of Americans Ages 25 – 44 Have Completely Changed Fields Since Starting Their First Job Post-College
* Creatively nudging faculty members to expand use of immersive technology
* Making Learning Without Borders a Reality
* Weiss Hospital To Get New Owner
* #fbf: A streetcar named retired with video footage


* IDPH Investigation Continues As Foodborne Illnesses Increase
* Gov. Rauner signs HB 5611
* Summit for Success: IDOT providing tools, opportunity for disadvantaged businesses
* Illinois Payrolls Jump +18,100
* Liquor Control Commission Underage Compliance Report for Cook County

  
* FCC now accepting your petitions on whether T-Mobile - Sprint merger should go through
* Freeform has renewed Marvel’s Cloak & Dagger for a second season
* The rumored Samsung Galaxy Watch will come in two sizes
* Galaxy Watch seen at FCC with sleeker package
* Joss Whedon is developing a ‘richly diverse’ Buffy the Vampire Slayer reboot
* A Japanese startup has ambitious plans for on-demand meteor showers
* Watch the first trailer for M. Night Shyamalan’s Glass

* Abreu happy to talk about ASG, not rumors
* In My Words: Dylan Cease
* Nelson Cruz
* Nicky Delmonico back in lineup as White Sox take on Mariners
* White Sox' Omar Narvaez catching against the Mariners
* White Sox' Yolmer Sanchez moves all the way down to nint...
* Nick Delmonico


Main Menu
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

Archives
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

Syndication

RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0
WordPress




Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller