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The governor’s media event
Friday, Jan 23, 2009 - Posted by Rich Miller [Comments closed because this thread got too long. Go here to comment.] * 2:54 pm - So, in summation, lies, obfuscation, conspiracy theories, blaming the House for all ills, refusal to take any responsibility for anything. Come to think of it, just about every press event Rod Blagojevich has had for the past 6 years has been exactly like this. The only change has been the situation. * 2:47 pm - Republican Sen. Matt Murphy is speaking to reporters now. Watch it live. 2:50: He’s finished now. * 2:43 pm - This part was just loaded with irony, considering that he’s accused of attempting to bribe Tribune owner Sam Zell into firing a member of his paper’s editorial board…
* 2:40 pm - Tribune…
Um, excuse me, but how many citizens of Illinois are governors who have been arrested after they were caught on FBI surveillance tapes apparently attempting to sell Barack Obama’s US Senate seat? Yeah, I didn’t think there was more than one. * 2:36 pm - End. At least he took a few questions this time. Not that he really answered any of them truthfully, but it’s a start, I suppose. Then again, the end is near. * 2:34 pm - Now comes the tax hike tinfoil hat conspiracy again. He’s being asked about this “almost a conspiracy” between Quinn, Madigan and others to boot him out of office in order to raise taxes. “I’m saying what I just said,” the governor explained. “It’s not a conspiracy, they have said it.” Even the Republicans are in on it, the governor explained, because “they want the campaign issue” of a tax hike to use against the Democrats in the next election. * 2:31 pm - The governor dodged quetions about filing a lawsuit to stop the Senate trial by saying that the issue is under discussion by his legal team. * 2:30 pm - He’s now repeating many of the same lines from his Don & Roma appearance this morning. I debunked pretty much every argument here and here. * 2:25 pm - The governor asked the Senate President to “just change those two rules,” [8(b) and 15(f), see below] and allow him to call witnesses. He listed a large number of politicians, including Sen. John McCain, whom he’d like to call to bolster his argument that, for instance, the drug importation program was the right thing to do. But as noted below, he had the opportunity to call those witnesses and refused to participate in the trial. He also never attempted to contact the Senate about the rules through his attorneys. * 2:24 pm - Oh, this is rich. He’s calling on newspaper editorial boards to come to his defense. * 2:17 pm - And away we go… Says he’s “impatient” to “call witnesses.” However… under the current rules, they’re not allowing me to participate in that process… denies fundamental fairness, fundamental due process… doesn’t allow me or any citizen to challenge charges… it’s a trampling of the constitution.” He’s complaining now about Senate trial rule 15 (f), which prohibits him from calling people who are on US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald’s “do not call” list…
8(b) is…
But he could’ve objected to the sufficiency of the article of impeachemnt under rule 14…
* 2:14 pm - And another two minute warning. * 2:03 pm - Two minute warning. * 1:55 pm - Lots of rumors flying around, including a pretty high-level one that the guv may announce he’s stepping aside and handing over power to Pat Quinn. That was a plan concocted and then discarded, but it was to be done in conjunction with a lawsuit blocking the Senate impeachment trial. The bottom line is, he could change his mind before he starts and just do hand-stands for 20 minutes. Let’s keep this thread clear until the presser starts except for links to live Intertube broadcasts. At this moment, I don’t know who is carrying the show live, but here are a few links…
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- Rich Miller - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:00 pm:
Tribune feed is up and running. Easiest for Mac users of all of them, too.
- Been There - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:06 pm:
Can’t find it on CNN. They usually have the clearest feed. FOX32 looks like they are going to carry it live at least in Chicago.
- Deep South - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:08 pm:
Vid on WBBM looks great and I’m running a Mac.
- What planet is he from again? - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:10 pm:
WUIS has it live as well, although they’re just yapping right now since it is (surprise!) starting late.
- Stu - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:10 pm:
The “2 minute warning” was more than 5 minutes ago…but I guess that is typical.
- David - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:11 pm:
CNN has the feed on their site now, and CNN will show it live
- Princess - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:12 pm:
Fox news is having a good time with this.
- Stu - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:15 pm:
Ahh, now the “official” 2 minute warning…
- South Side Mike - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:16 pm:
ABC7’s link is up and running.
- Lurker - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:19 pm:
He seems almost humble. Who is this guy and what has he done with Rod?
- Vote Quimby! - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:19 pm:
SOS…I’m outta here
- pepperdine law schooler - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:20 pm:
He can call Bob Bell and Frazier Thomas; ain’t gonna help him.
- Spiney Norman - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:21 pm:
Oh, my God his hair is out of place.
- Lurker - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:21 pm:
Surprise, surprise, it’s just more of the same from him, complaining about the rules.
- carbon deforestation - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:21 pm:
“They can do this to any citizen in Illinois”
Good one Rod!
- cowboys!?!?! - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:22 pm:
Well he was close at horse thief…
- OneMan - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:22 pm:
Old cowboy movies…. Oh boy…
- Pot calling kettle - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:22 pm:
Will there be a poem? Questions? (HA!)
- Hair today, gone tomorrow - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:22 pm:
cowboys???
- Lurker - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:23 pm:
ummm he’s rambling about a cowboy or something.
- Ann - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:23 pm:
Blah, blah, blah. Shut up and go away. “If they can do this to a governor they can do this to any citizen in Illinois.” Sure. We can all be impeached. Oh, and now it’s the cowboy joke. He’s being hung and they’re taking 12 million people of Illinois with him.
- Nearly Normal - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:23 pm:
Same rules that were used for the Clinton impeachment? And, he was found not guilty.
A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse!
- South Side Mike - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:23 pm:
Old anonymous cowboy movies? He’s been admiring his Sun-Times cover.
- Y2D - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:23 pm:
Ah was only herd’n cattle n rop’n steers.
- Anonymous Coward - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:24 pm:
He’s asking the Tribune editorial board for help??
- Hair today, gone tomorrow - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:24 pm:
“done MOSTLY the right thing for the people of Illinois”
- Lurker - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:24 pm:
Now he wants the editorial boards to help him? lol
- Sh, he's on a roll - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:24 pm:
He’s about to employ the Chewbacca Defense, I swear it….
Oh, now he’s bringing in the Tribune? His irony meter must be broken.
- Say WHAT? - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:25 pm:
“If they can do this to the Governor, they can do this to any citizen in Illinois”
Hmmm… I didn’t know citizens could be impeached, convicted and removed.
- Rod sez I'm pork - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:25 pm:
Asking the Tribune editorial board for help? Now that’s chutzpah!
- He da man - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:25 pm:
He still wants to close down the Trib, at least he is consistant
- OneMan - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:25 pm:
It’s the Chewbacca Defense! http://tinyurl.com/cmq6wm
- Ann - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:26 pm:
Haha. He can’t even say he’s done more than “mostly” the right thing for the people of Illinois. And good luck getting the Tribune to start a crusade to protect him from the Senate!
- South of I-80 - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:26 pm:
The cowboy way!! Is he wearing a Stetson?
- dupage dan - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:26 pm:
“I call upon the fairy godmother to get involved and write some editorials so that I can have Ted Kennedy testify that I am not a crook”
- Been There - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:26 pm:
Thank God Emil retired. He might have gotten some of what he is asking for.
- Pot calling kettle - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:26 pm:
What if the cowboy is on tape stealing a horse? Can he call other cowboys to say he did not steal a horse from any of them? Is it relevant?
- Dan S, a Voter and Cubs Fan - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:27 pm:
Good move appeal to the newspaper he tried to shake down.
- If the rug doesn't fit... - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:27 pm:
Flannery quite restrained this time, surprised he isn’t throwing a shoe.
- bored on 1 - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:27 pm:
I believe he is quoting Blazing Saddles. I am trying to find the clip on you tube.
- Skeeter - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:28 pm:
Do you think he sees the irony that he, as part of government, wanted to control the Tribune’s editorial board, but now wants that Board to act independently?
Act indepedently, as long as you back ME!
- Hunterdon - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:28 pm:
hoo boy - he’s actually gonna take some questions?!?!
- South of I-80 - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:28 pm:
Is this going to be another “up day”?
- Spiney Norman - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:28 pm:
But you can’t hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn’t we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn’t this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn’t this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we’re not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
[Leads the Deltas out of the hearing, all humming the Star-Spangled Banner]
- Pot calling kettle - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:29 pm:
JCAR is the will of the people, too. Why won’t he respect the right of the legislature to do their job?
- Central_IL_farm_boy - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:30 pm:
This guy is unbalanced. He needs help . . . . after they get him out of the office!
- Nearly Normal - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:30 pm:
There he goes again.
- Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:30 pm:
He’s talking about putting his hand on the Bible and swearing to follow the constitution,,,, BZZZT! wrong.
Quoting Pres. Ike… crazy
He’s certainly no Holmes….
- Pot calling kettle - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:31 pm:
OK, how many people know the Gov? How many people have a chance to talk to Rod? Special interests? The folks who paid millions of dollars to Rod to buy appointments?
- dupage dan - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:31 pm:
They are letting him go on and on and on. It’s too bad they don’t bring up that great Tribune editorial board irony bit. He wants them to stick around long enough to save him then the board should disappear. Chutzpah indeed!
- Say WHAT? - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:31 pm:
Taking questions… The worst thing he could do. He’s spinning out of control.
Rod is the bully on the playground who cries on the teachers shoulder when she shows up, perfectly playing the victim.
- Bluefish - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:32 pm:
He keeps refering to the evil “political-industrial complex”. It’s all a vast right-wing conspiracy
- tom - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:32 pm:
What color is the sky in his world?
- OneMan - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:32 pm:
Also the tongue thing he does is rather funny
- ASA - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:33 pm:
If he is not going to answer questions than why is the media giving him the time of day. Send two pool reporters. It is the media that is giving his conspiracy theories life
- bored on 1 - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:33 pm:
he is quoting Blazing Saddles
- Blue Suede Room - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:34 pm:
He’s trying to wreck the follow-on administration with his tax harangues. Classy play, Rod. Keep swinging all the way down.
- Concerned Observer - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:34 pm:
I would like to see Cullerton in front of a press conference, answering every question about the impeachment trial. It won’t happen, but a point-by-point debunking would be very beneficial.
This news conference, though, was a dud IMO…I had expected more. Oh well.
- Irish - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:34 pm:
Give Daley a PHD. He is spot on.
- South Side Mike - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:35 pm:
“My view is this, and it is interesting.”
It certainly is interesting….
- carbon deforestation - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:35 pm:
Okay, he totally changed my mind. He’s right. This is BS! We must protect our governor! He is fighting for us!
- Skeeter - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:36 pm:
“my view is this, and it is interesting.”
No, it really isn’t “interesting.” It is more “creepy” than “interesting.”
- Central_IL_farm_boy - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:36 pm:
He obviously thinks that this is a campaign event.
- Dan S, a Voter and Cubs Fan - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:36 pm:
Do you think the “Spin Sisters” are counting their blessings at this moment?
- dupage dan - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:36 pm:
Here comes the secret tax conspiracy. That dog don’t hunt.
- Rufus - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:37 pm:
Man, This guy can spin! What Hypocrisy! What Lies! They are definitely goin’ to make a movie about this guy. I wonder what the title will be?
- Ghost - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:37 pm:
“I know the truth of things, and I have nothing to fear but the truth!”
- He's my guy - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:40 pm:
I say Bill now resents calling for Blago to step down. As a matter of fact, that was so compelling I am jumping on the Blago bandwagon also.
- carbon deforestation - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:42 pm:
For the first time in 6 years I did exactly what the Governor asked. I just contacted my state senator and told them what I think about the impeachment rules.
“They are fair, don’t change them. Give him the trial he deserves and remove him ASSSAP!”
- VanillaMan - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:42 pm:
The Adventures of Cowboy Rod
Episode 55: Cowboy Rod’s Hangin’
In our last episode, Cowboy Rod was impeached by the General Assembly Boys who cornered our hero in the Bridgeview Corral. Our episode begins as Cowboy Rod is pleading his case before the GA Boys.
Cowboy Rod: I swore on a holy Bible to uphold the law! I can’t allow you to hang me because I would be allowing you to break your Oath! If you can throw a governor out anytime they want, those lawmakers who are unknown to voters, are surrounded by a political industrial complex of lobbyists without me! I challenged your system! Free transportation! No tax increases! I was herding cattle with Rahm Emanuel, Jesse Jackson Junior, and Valerie Jarrett! I wasn’t even around!
The Boys: Well, it is like this Cowboy Rod. We got here a bunch of crimes with your fingerprints on them. We have you on tape rustling Obama’s old horse and trying to sell it to Valerie Jarrett and Jesse Jackson Junior - who you claim you were herding cattle with. Old Man Fitz says they caught you red-handed!
Cowboy Rod: If you hang me you will all pay! You can’t afford to pay more during this economic recession, can you? You Boys have conspired against me. My view is this, and I believe it strongly, Mayor Daley publically supported an income tax increase. You GOP Boys want it to so that they can defeat you GA Boys! Without a fair hearing, you will be going down. Rule 8B and 15F hamstrungs me. Very simple. It is basic fundamental fairness, and I am being denied this!
GA Boys: Well Cowboy Rod, it looks like you are out of arguments preventing us from stretching your neck. If we hung you unfairly, we’ll be mighty sad. But you have to understand Cowboy Rod, you might not have rustled off Obama’s horse, but we have you rustlin’ off business in Illinois, we have you rustlin’ off our budget, we have you extorting the children’s hospital for loot, and we don’t like the way you comb your hair.
Cowboy Rod: Look, ya got me! All I want is some fairness!
Will the General Assembly Boys show mercy to Cowboy Rod? Could they be that stupid? Find out next week kids with our next episode: “Cowboy Rod’s Final Days!”
- TimB - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:43 pm:
As we say out here in the sticks, Blago has ***t in his nest. He has thrown the legislature, the media and the people of IL under the bus. Even if he beats the rap, he’s done!!!!!
- Kevin Fanning - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:43 pm:
Its all the same, only the names will change
Everyday it seems were wasting away
Another place where the faces are so cold
Id drive all night just to get back home
Im a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride
Im wanted dead or alive
Wanted dead or alive
- Pot calling kettle - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:44 pm:
Way to go Cullerton! Having a Senate committee member on deck to answer questions is priceless.
- Disgusted in Chi Boogie - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:45 pm:
On the NBC feed, Sen. Murphy came up to the podium after the Governor and they’r estill airing it.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/live/?aid=38226939&vid=30914249
- OneMan - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:46 pm:
BizarroBlago When Blago was in Egypt’s Land….. Let my Blago go….. #Blagojevich #BlagoPoetrySlam
- Fed-up - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:47 pm:
If you repeat a lie often enough, people begin to believe you
- SpfldJimbo - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:48 pm:
After my jaw dropped, and my eyes glazed over during Lil Elvis’ performance, my mind drifted back to a similar type defense offered by “Otter” in the movie “Animal House”.
“Ladies and gentlemen, I’ll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did. But you can’t hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn’t we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn’t this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn’t this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we’re not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen” !
- Amy - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:48 pm:
halfway through I turned to Fox cable. what a treat. listening to S.Smith screaming at Blago, it was almost as if he did not realize he was on mike. also ringing a bell from time to time. he claimed (incorrectly) that not one local channel was carrying the presser…..WGN and Fox local were…..but he is sure correct that
Blago was speaking to the jury pool.
also, Blago was putting Rahm, Valerie and more on notice that he will be calling them as witnesses. what a spectacle that will be.
when will the long nightmare be over?
- Been There - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:50 pm:
===Um, excuse me, but how many citizens of Illinois are governors who have been arrested after they were caught on FBI surveillance tapes apparently attempting to sell Barack Obama’s US Senate seat?===
I believe the Library guy citizen who was arrested for shop lifting was hung. By the governor himself. And how many others have been fired over being from previous administrations? They didn’t even do anything criminally wrong.
- Healthcare Worker - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:51 pm:
WGN radio just offered Rod and his wife the 1-4 spot.
Hilarious……
- Really?! - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:52 pm:
Matt Murphy was super, de-duper fabulous!!! Glad I kept watching.
- Pot calling kettle - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:53 pm:
Was that Matt “Guitar” Murphy?
- Nearly Normal - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:53 pm:
WGN offering the 1 to 4 p.m. slot to the Blago husband and wife. Broke to a commercial and then came back with the music to “The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly.”
This is all too funny. Program manager is explaining this on air. Gives Blago a chance to collaborate with the Tribune editorial board members. Bring down the conspiracy against him from the inside.
- Barnum and Blago - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:54 pm:
Mike Murphy was calm, cogent and eloquent in his refutation of every single point the governor made.
I wonder how much air time his response will relative to the Governor.
- Captain America - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:54 pm:
After the no-show at the OK corral, My advice to the Senate is “Hang em High!”
- Rod Bla-gone-a-vich - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:55 pm:
It’s Eddie Haskell!!!!!!!!!!!!
- He Makes Ryan Look Like a Saint - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:55 pm:
The presumption of innocence did not seem to apply to the Head of the Abe Lincoln President Library who got busted for shoplifting and was fired prior to his trial……. What’s the Difference GOV???
- Barnum and Blago - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:56 pm:
Matt Murphy was calm, cogent and eloquent in his refutation of every single point the governor made.
I wonder how much air time his response will relative to the Governor.
- Princess - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:56 pm:
Amy, should have tuned into Fox a bit before, they showed the clip of Daley calling Rod cuckoo and all present on show practiced ‘cuckoo’ and talked about ‘Planet Blago’. Too bad it’s our state and governor, somehow I don’t think this is what Rod had in mind for his national media bliz, can he make any more of a fool of us?
- observation - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 2:58 pm:
Oh look, a cow!
- Amy - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:00 pm:
princess….thanks….. LOL!!!!!
- Captain America - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:00 pm:
In a cowboy vernacular, my advice to Rod is “Get along little dogie.”
- HoBoSkillet - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:01 pm:
In honor of the Guv, and if you want to pass some time. http://www.freehangmangames.com/online-hangman-game/index.html
- Ahem - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:01 pm:
Word of the day is “mostly.”
- enrico depressario - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:02 pm:
Dude’s been huffing too much hairspray. Big Richie D is right on target.
- He Makes Ryan Look Like a Saint - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:03 pm:
Prosecutors want Blago tapes released to Senate
See the link:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1394219,blagojevich-secret-tapes-012309.article
The hearing is at 4 today. Maybe that will shut him up.
- Capitol View - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:04 pm:
if this is Groundhog Day, adn the governor gets a six year do-over –
next time, work with the General Assembly rather than fight them for dominance every day. See what good might get accomplished. And pay your bills!
- cynic - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:05 pm:
Just. Wow. The Guv is in serious denial.
Of course, it was worth the price of admission just to hear the Guv mention Ed Genson and Oliver Wendell Holmes in the same sentence.
- Deep South - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:06 pm:
I would bet that the Tribune will do as Blago asks, but their response will not contain the message Blago had hoped for!
It will be the very definition of “backfire.”
- Pot calling kettle - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:07 pm:
A nice touch now would be for someone to round up all of the folks Rod fired for questioning his policy choices. It would be quite a crowd and a nice counterpoint to his current tack.
And, really, suggesting that Pat Quinn, of all people, the guy who hands out tea bag all the time, has been looking to raise taxes…it blows my mind.
- Captain America - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:07 pm:
Given his financial problems,I guess Cowboy Rod is sticking around for “A Few Dollars More.”
Roll’em, Roll’ em, Roll’ em, keep them cameras amd dollars roll’in. Governor Rawhide has to pay his legal fees somehow!
- Father Time - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:11 pm:
tic tock…tick tock
- 2ConfusedCrew - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:12 pm:
While the GOPers are rolling out their ‘10 campaign theme (which was the same as the failed ‘08 theme) it is time to offer this little update….
Profile of the Sociopath
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.
Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
- Rich Miller - Friday, Jan 23, 09 @ 3:39 pm:
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