* While we’re waiting on some possible Scott Lee Cohen news, I’m gonna front-page something I wrote in comments not long ago, with a tiny bit of editing…
There’s something that I don’t think some people are quite understanding here.
Frankly, I don’t care if the guy shot up ‘roids and lived with a “massage therapist”. He had a “bad year.” OK, I get it. Fine. He’s better now.
My problem with this guy isn’t just one thing. It isn’t just what’s in his divorce - these things happen in lots of divorces (and it was far worse before we had “no fault” divorces in this state). It isn’t just that he allegedly knifed his girlfriend in the throat - I’m assuming that hooker girlfriends may not be incredibly reliable. It isn’t just that his ex-wife stands behind the long list of abuse allegations [including attempted rape]. It isn’t just that his brother sued him for $400K. It isn’t just that his sister-in-law tried to evict him from his house. It isn’t just that he spent $2mil+ on a campaign while his ex-wife was reportedly suing him for child support. It isn’t just that about 4 dozen lawsuits have been filed against him, or that his voting record shows that this year was the first time he’s voted in a primary. It isn’t just that he “doesn’t remember” writing threatening notes in lipstick on his wife’s mirror.
It’s a totality. Plus the fact that he’s got a lame excuse for everything. Why didn’t he vote in a primary before now? “I was busy taking care of businesses and providing for my family,” he told me yesterday. So, what’s up with the reported child support suit, then? And all the other business problems? On and on it goes.
Too many of you are defending him by looking at just one thing. That’s stupidity. Look at it all together, step back and see the disaster.
Defend it all. Go ahead. Try. But stop focusing in on just one thing. Stop insulting our intelligence.
If you can defend all of that, go for it. If not, don’t bother posting in comments.
Today, a broad coalition of anti-violence and women’s groups held a press conference in Chicago to discuss the recent revelations about the Democrat lieutenant gubernatorial nominee’s history of violence and harassment. Due to their nonprofit status, most of the representatives couldn’t publicly demand that Cohen withdraw from the ballot. Nonetheless, they strongly repudiated his candidacy. “My immediate response,” said Kelly White of the Chicago Foundation for Women, “was completely and totally appalled.”
* 8:03 pm - We’ve gotten a lot of comments today which have basically said “He was elected fair and square!” Also, I’ve seen the “He was never convicted of anything!” comment more than a few times.
Well, first, Cohen was nominated, not elected. Big difference. Secondly, we all heard that exact same argument from Rod Blagojevich. He was actually nominated and elected twice. Also, RRB was removed from office without being convicted of anything.
Facing intense and mounting pressure to step aside, embattled Democratic nominee for lieutenant governor Scott Lee Cohen is seeking an “honorable way” out, a Cohen campaign source said tonight.
Cohen, who mostly kept out of the public eye today, said as recently as Thursday that he had no plans to quit. But with Democrats across the state urging him to re-think that decision, Cohen appears to be concerned how revelations about his private life might hurt the Democratic party.
* Sheesh. The weirdos are really coming out of the woodwork now. My reply.
-Also, anonymous, I didn’t delete your comment yesterday blaming this mess on Grainger-Terry. _
Thanks Rich, and I do honestly appreciate your service to the people of this state and to the people who are active participants and observers of the game. Both on the policy side (or lack there of) and the political side (which is never-ending).
As far as I am concerned, and no I am not kissing your ass, You, Marin, Ponce, Zorn, Schoenburg and maybe Charles Thomas are the only ones in-tune with what is actually going on behind the scenes in this state, which is currently on track, if it isn’t already is, to be the next “Michigan or California.” There is a genuine fundamental question if Dillard/Brady or Quinn has the “cojones” or the “intellectual capacity” on staff to get started on solving what is nothing less than a complete and udder disaster in state government. Hynes is right, the State is DEAD BROKE. You can’t solve these problems without a revenue increase and spending must also be cut- which includes pension reform and the ELIMINATION of Dozens upon Dozens of state boards and Pension reform. And I won’t even address MJM in this post.
With respect to my comments about Grainger Terry. They crossed the line when they started listing 18 year old unemployed kids as “Expenditures” on their D-2’s for SLC. Posting “Craig’s list” ads asking people to show up for “Astro-Turf Jobs Fairs” and BS “Campaign Rally’s” and then paying them $200 to show up and listing their names on D2′S under expenditures, crosses the line- especially when they put dozens and dozens of 18 year old kids name’s under expenditures for “consulting ” on their D2 expense reports.
This is an open letter to Grainger Terry at this point. You should show just a tiny bit of class, decent respect, human dignity and personally call each and everyone of those kids and apologize to them this weekend. Then submit an amended D-2 report remove their names from the expenditure reports, and repay them for their time from your personal accounts. If you and the names of people who worked on behalf of SLC don’t make a mild attempt to do this, your names will show up on Politico, TPM, Washington Wire, Political Wire and who knows where else. “Poilitics ain’t bean bad.” That is not a threat. This is the least you can do in the name of basic human decency and the future careers of 18 year old kids who may wish to continue working in government or politics. If you fail to do this, well, you deserve what you get and you should be prepared to look for new work out of Illinois and out of Washington DC. This isn’t personal, it is just a fair warning.
To conclude, and I am talking to Rich. You and I have met before numerous times, but I doubt you remember me. Perhaps when this is all over, you and I can go to the New Comiskey and enjoy a Sox Game. We can talk shop, talk baseball, or just enjoy a day in the sun. You pick the game and you can pick the bar. I got the tickets and the first round. I personally like Mitchell’s Tap, 3636 South Halsted. It is frequented by a lot of off duty sheriffs, firefighters, IBEW guys, IOE guys, and genuinely good people. But if you have another place you prefer, just name it.
Rich, I sincerely thank you for the opportunity to address my concerns.
(Fan of the Blog-Active and Long Time Participant of the Game)
Let’s go back in time one month and imagine Turner or any of the other Lite Guv candidates running an ad telling about SLC’s “indiscretions”. I can see the ad now with the deep, scary voice; mugshot of the “massage therapist”; images of syringes, etc. Although it would have likely gotten him defeated, many, including the mainstream media, would lament the negative, nasty tone of the campaign.
Today, however, many are blaming this mess on the other candidates for not bringing this out. Are we saying that so-called negative campaigns not only have a place but are essential for informing the electorate about the people we are electing?
All we heard about was the nasty commercials between Quinn and Hynes. A good, effective SLC ad would make those ads look like Saturday morning cartoons.
Logical Thinker - there is a need to defend the some 213,000 IL voters who elected him as their nominee.
And there is a need to question why this wasn’t a scandal months ago.
How can anyone defend the Dem Leader’s attempt to change a fair election? This is a slippery slope.
He DID win. Regardless of whether the democratic party wants him on the ticket given the developments of the last day or so, it’s not like he hid anything. He did the interview with Mark Brown in March and disclosed all of these details.
Is the blame on the voters for voting for him (as the media is trying to portray) or is it on the media for not bringing these details to light?
The media is carrying the water of the democratic party now and trying to save everyone the embarrassment of having him run in November but you can’t deny that he WON the election!
By the way, kudos to Bill Brady. He will never have my vote but I appreciate his call for SLC to step down. The report was that he said the SofI cannot afford to continue to be a joke. He said it would be easier for his campaign if SLC stayed on the ticket but would rather fight the good fight (not his words). Nice to have that call come from the other side.
Also for the record I wasn’t defending Scott Cohen. But now I will.
The State, and I mean that in the legal sense, has not taken away Scott’s right to hold office and has absolutely no vested interest in doing so without violating his and our rights. Scott Cohen has the legal right to be on the ballot.
So if we are not protecting the State by getting him off the ballot, who are we protecting? The Democratic Party of Illinois, that is who. In totality this duly elected Democrat is beyond a mess and the Democratic Party of Illinois is responsible for him.
With every call for him to step down from a prominent Democrat like Lisa Madigan, there should also come a sincere personal apology that they are ashamed that they and their party didn’t stop this guy in the first place. Every one of them are hypocrites that have not apologized for this guy getting to where he is on the Democratic slate.
In totality, defend the Democratic Party of Illinois for this guy with ALL OF THAT baggage winning. The more dirt there is on Scott Cohen, the more incompetent the Democratic Party of Illinois is.
Not from the woodwork, but he DID win. Simple fact. And I agree: changing a fair election is a VERY slippery slope. Careful how you step, good people of IL. As loathsome as this fellow may be, as much as you may not want him on the ticket, you’d better tread lightly. The cure could be more destructive than the sickness.
The only defense is the anchor around the drowning Dems gubernatorial hopes that he represents and the example of very sloppy quality control they bring to the process. I agree that the sum of the pieces points to a veritable sleazeball, however he is Their sleazeball and therein lies his “redemption”.
This situation represents a total lack of leadership by the Dem Party Chairman. He could have repudiated cohen, brought these allegations to light and informed every county chair and ward committeeman. Instead, MJM did nothing.
….yet everyone says he’s the greatest politician in Illinois. Good luck on this mess chessmaster.
Yo logical thinker — he’s a scumbag who BOUGHT the election.
- lake county democrat - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 7:52 pm:
I dearly hope he steps down but Rich, overturning the will of the voters, no matter how uninformed/underinformed, no matter how flawed the candidate, strikes me as a dangerously slippery slope. Especially in a state already so unresponsive to the voters (via gerrymandering, party leaders manipulating campaign finance laws, etc.)
Is he the first person to BUY an election? No. And he won’t be the last.
The influence of money in politics is a completely separate issue, but until it is fully addressed, you will end up with results like this and whether we like it or not, we have to live with the results or else there is no point in having elections.
I’m with Logical Thinker. He won the Democratic primary fair and square. Why have a do-over just because people who didn’t even vote for him are embarrassed all of a sudden? Why should he step aside when he still stands a good chance of winning in November? Frances Carroll and James Montgomery didn’t step aside when Pat Quinn told them they had to, and they’re fine now.
- i'm just saying... - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 7:53 pm:
This Dude Missed his true caller, he may have done better if he went over and saw Pickle Joyce at Leo, he would have been a great boxer, he certainly has great staying power…….
In these difficult economic times I find it amazing that the L Guv position has a $2 million price tag . . . I might have gone 2 or 3 thou but no more.
- lake county democrat - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 7:56 pm:
My point is if he won’t step aside, I’d rather Quinn go independent than they use anything more than the bully pulpit to try to get him off the ballot (e.g., new attention from the state’s attorneys or a.g.’s office, elected officials trying to galvanize private organizations to similarly attack his financial interests, etc.)
One or two good things could come out of this. First, assuming it’s too hard to amend the state constitution to remove the office, can’t we all at least agree to let the gubernatorial nominees select their running mates? MJM and the guv candidates should be put on the record about that asap. Second, and I realize this might be asking too much, but can’t we have a primary in the late spring or early summer so we don’t have what was essentially a campaign season consisting of the month of January?
Pam Harris, Logical Thinker, et al… If there was a law forbidding the winner of an election from stepping down, I’d agree with you.
But Rod Blagojevich was elected twice and impeached and removed. Did you argue against that? I bring that up because he and his staff constantly used the same “duly elected” argument during that ordeal which you are using now.
If you think RRB got railroaded and shouldn’t have been removed from office, I can see how your consistency argument would stand. Otherwise, I can’t.
- i'm just saying... - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 7:59 pm:
I’m just saying, some of you guys are mopes, I didn’t see many of you folks defending Jack Ryan when he was having his little Tet a Tet
fine, stay in as long as you want SLC & your staff (who appear to be here in droves tonight). But guess what, you’re finally going to get the attention you wanted & you deserve. If you were dumb enough to run for office with all this filth & garbage in your background, then be man enough to take the heat. And the heat will remain because any joker who thinks he/she won’t get this kind of attention (even if it is a couple months late) should be able to take it.
Nearly 1 million people voted in the democratic primary and he won it.
-Should he be off because of a checkered past? If so, then we should hold EVERYONE to the same standard.
-Should he be off because he’s an embarrassment? If so, it’s only because of the attention paid to the story AFTER the election.
-Should he be off because he’s not qualified? Who determines qualifications?
Look, there are politicians in Springfield and across the country, who are held up as party leaders on both sides of the aisle, who are MUCH BIGGER scumbags than this guy and who never get 0.001% of the attention SLC has in the last 2 days.
I think there is another issue here that some are overlooking. There were dozens of people who endorsed him, organized for him and worked for him. These people vouched for him and now they look like tools.
Its not ok to do something like this to the ranking members of “your” party. We had enough problems already and now we have another (potentially national) media fiasco. Lets try to do the right thing FOR ONCE and avoid looking like complete idiots and torpedoing our own party.
Everyone needs to line up, stand as an actual state party and demand SLC step down.
“If you think RRB got railroaded and shouldn’t have been removed from office, I can see how your consistency argument would stand.”
I do. He won re-election despite already having done everything except try to sell the Senate seat. Illinois knew what it had and ordered seconds.
And as long as Bill Brady is too Conservative for Illinois, Scott Lee Cohen has to recognize he is favored to take office at the end of the year unless he blinks. Pat Quinn and Dick Durbin are as powerless to tell him no as they were with Roland Burris.
Zorn claims, with quotes from the Constitution, that the option is there to require pairing of the gov/lt guv for elections and that to activate the provision all it takes is G.A. action. Not a Con. Amendment. ??? Wouldn’t change the current problem but would prevent a repeat of ‘86 and ‘10.
Welcome to all the new people SLC or Grainger is paying to conduct some sort of war of false righteousness on the cap fax blog. Maybe these are the same people who were paid to be part of SLC’s baseless and fruitless challenge to all the other LtG candidates…Having daddy’s money must be so fun…why dont you folks ask SLC to buy you a drink at Vertigo this evening? You have all worked so hard just like SLC did going around making “contributions” to aldercreatures and other pols who were stupid enough to endorse this train wreck.
The reason he is being forced off the ticket is the sharks are embarrassed and want him to go away. They didn’t do their job in properly vetting him and it came back to bite them.
Your point on the the Blago saga raises an interesting hypothetical. What if Blago is acquitted? Sure there were many valid reasons for him to be impeached but if he walks, then there will be a lot of people who will have a lot of egg on their face. Ironically it would be the same ones who are pushing SLC off the ticket.
- i'm just saying... - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 8:10 pm:
Rich - my concern is with IL Democratic leadership “coming out” to demand SLC step down, the intense media coverage and how stupid IL looks AGAIN.
Personally, I can’t believe people voted for this guy. I sure didn’t.
If someone who is fairly elected can be pressured to step down - that worries me.
The fact there is absolutely no defense for this guy being our Lieutenant Governor means there is absolutely no defense for the Democratic Party of Illinois letting this guy happen.
There’s a difference between defending Scott Cohen, his right to be on the ballot, and the incompetence of the Democratic Party of Illinois that Scott Cohen won their primary under their noses and their watch. Scott Cohen gets all the blame for what he has done and the Democratic Party of Illinois gets all of the blame for the did not do, but Cohen and his Democratic Party absolutely SHARE the blame that this situation even arose in the first place.
it does serve Madigan and crew right-how long have they known this could happen again? He has been around long enough and is supposedly smart enough to keep this from happening. But then, our own democrats have totally screwed this state so perhaps it is just a dose of long needed medicine.
“I think I might agree more with what we’ll call the ‘Pam’ side of things if this state voted for Governor and Lieutenant Governor separately in the General.”
The ideal solution is to return to Gov. and Lt. Gov. running separately, as was the case until the seventies. Then Quinn is free of Cohen, and there is still no denying primary voters their explicitly stated preference.
Maybe the voters of Illinois should finally learn that they shouldn’t use campaign commercials as their only source of information when deciding how to vote. Then we wouldn’t have these problems (emphasis on the plural form of problem). I say the Democrats made their bed, they used campaign commercials to decide how to vote, and now they should sleep in it.
If he steps down, the early primary will help the voters forget that he was ever on the ticket. The longer this goes on with SLC still in play, the worse it will be in November for the Quinn-Cohen ticket.
- i'm just saying... - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 8:32 pm:
RMN was facing certain impeachment. And Eagleton - selected as VP running mate who knowingly concealed his mental health history inc. shock tx, powerful antipsychotics, suicidal tendencies and institutionalizations.
If there are new people tonight commenting - I came because I follow the Capitol Fax tweets and I, like many of you, have been on full IL political mode since Tuesday’s election.
I’m not SLC or accomplice. Just a suburban mom frightened at the possibility of seeing an election overturned because the guy who won is scum.
Placing blame without offering a solution is not helpful. There are the folks that think the office should be abolished. I disagree, but at least it is a solution that they are offering.
To blame the voters is absurd. What kind of solution would that require? End voting? Elect-by-raffle? It isn’t the electorate’s job to adapt to a runaway political system. Its their job to reign it in and participate.
Is there really any question that the vast majority of Illinoisans don’t want to see this guy anywhere near office? Really? After all this?
Of course not. We got duped. We admit it. Now we’re angry and we aren’t going to let you get away with it. Step down and go away. We want a do-over.
If SLC is looking for an “honorable way” out I suggest “Harry Caray”. Not to be confused with the Japanese hari kari.
SLC puts on some big glasses, heads out to Wrigley and says “Cubs Win, Cubs Win, I’m leaving the democratic ticket because I just bought Cubs season tickets. See me and Ronnie Woo Woo at all the home games.”
SLC spent $2M on the election. I’m interested in finding out, if he does resign, how much money he is going to get and where it is coming from.
I would say that if SLC rides off into the night, the media (Rich, this includes you) has an obligation to bring to light the deal-making that goes on. I’m guessing that this will be an even bigger story than anything we’ve seen so far.
Why oh why didn’t the Speaker/Chairman save us from ourselves? After a year of Madigan is too powerful and too influential and that’s bad government, suddenly he’s supposed to tell us who’s OK to run because we’re too easily fooled and that’s good government?
Democracy ain’t pretty and this isn’t exactly our finest hour. Live and learn, but spare me the “speaker should have saved us” sanctimony. So you wanted the speaker to clear the field for his pal Art Turner? Let’s callup the Collins commission on this one.
That is basically right Pat. Only for this race the Withdrawal form would be turned in to the State Board of Elections in Springfield or Chicago. I remember Rich Miller, Eric Zorn and other bloggers helping Jack Ryan get that done when he was delaying.
I started calling for George Ryan to resign in 1998 when days after the election the Tribune reported that his SoS employees were working on the clock to kick the Libertarians off the ballot. Did you, crazy?
Scott Lee Cohen’s head isn’t the only one that should be called for. Democrats want all the blame and focus to stay on Scott Cohen and away from their obvious incompetence in allowing a guy with his “qualifications” to win their party’s primary.
-I haven’t had more than 5 hours sleep three weeks straight. I’m going a bit nutty. lol-
Anyone who is on the front lines of this BS hasn’t gotten more than 4-5 hours of sleep in the last 3 weeks either. Thanks again for all you do. Hopefully, you can just take a week off and go to St. Lucia or someplace after SLC drops out and the Dillard/Brady recount commences. That should take a month or so. But then the legislature “might” be debating a “fair tax restructuring based on ability to pay” and “spending cuts.” God help us all.
Here’s a list of folks who endorsed SLC - what are they saying today? Personally, I love the IL Committee for Honest Government
Carrie Austin, Councilman – 34th Ward
Howard B. Brookins, Jr., Councilman – 21st Ward
JoAnn Thompson, Councilman – 16th Ward
Roberto Maldonado, Councilman – 26th Ward
Bernard L. Stone, Councilman – 50th Ward
Scott Waguespack, Councilman – 32nd Ward
Deborah Sims, Commissioner – 5th District
Joan Patricia Murphy, Commissioner – 6th District
Frank Zuccarelli, Supervisor – Thornton Township
Chris Gonzales, Assessor – Thornton Township
Deyon Dean, Mayor – Village of Riverdale
Terry Wells, Mayor – Village of Phoenix
Stephanie Kifowit, Councilman – Aurora
Brain Wilson, Councilman – Calumet City
Eddy Gonzales, Councilman – Calumet City
Thaddeus Jones, Councilman – Calumet City
Roger Munda, Councilman – Calumet City
Nick Manousopoulos, Councilman – Calumet City
Charles Levy, Clerk – Niles Township
Charles Hernandez, Cicero Township Democratic Committeeman
Don St. Germaine, Kankakee County Democratic Party Chairman
Reverend Johnny L. Miller
Reverend Marvin Hunter
Personal PAC Illinois
Illinois Committee for Honest Government
Ilaz Kadriu, President of the American Albanian Organization
Planned Parenthood Illinois
===Why isn’t “he won” good enough, Rich?===
I could actually agree(well not agree, but understand) with some of the support arguments if SLC had been nominated for some other constitutional office. Even governor. Then you could say he won and should stay. But since Lt Gov is tied to Gov this is different. He is bringing down another candidate in the process. Quinn should not suffer because of his faults unless he tried to defend the guy, which he isn’t.
It all goes back to what Rich said yesterday: It doesn’t matter if he stays or goes he is not going to be Lt Gov regardless of what he does.
“He will never be lt. governor. If Quinn stays on the ticket, they’ll lose. If Quinn leaves the ticket, he’ll lose. If they find a legal mechanism to kick him off, he loses.
Whatever happens, he’ll never be LG. Never.”
Whose fault is that? Is it SLC’s that he’ll never win? He already won once. Again, he did everything a candidate with skeletons in the closet should do. He hid nothing and made an effort to get the details into the public arena. Most of the stuff coming to light now was in the public record. He can’t win because of the feeding frenzy after the fact. The dems should not be off the hook. They made this mess.
Regarding the endorsements - I’d like to point out that Personal PAC and probably Planned Parenthood too although I can’t find their endorsement list right now - endorsed multiple candidates in the LG race. They simply let you know who is pro-choice in the race. Because they’re on this list it makes it look like they chose SLC over the others, which is not true.
- i'm just saying... - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 9:03 pm:
Okay WFLD breaking news that we may hear an announcement
I have channel nine and 32 on pip
He will never be Lt Gov about sums it up. What would you do if you were Scott Cohen at this point?
Hmmmm. I’d be picking out politicians and saying, if you want me off the ballot, we’re going to be cleaning some house and ALL of these candidates are going with me or see ya in November. #1 Michael Madigan. #2 The endorsement list. #3 Lt Governor opponents.
If this guy is smart and recognizes the power he has from having nothing to lose, he could drag this game out quite a while and do a lot more damage to the Democrat establishment.
Oh, my, I think it’s a wrap. How much more can be said? Hey SLC & Co: There’s a real basic book entitled “Politics for Dummies.” Oh OK, yeah, yeah, I know, kinda over-simple for us high fallutin, big-state sophisticates, but hey if it’s in here and you don’t know it, really…how sharp can YOU be? I mean, come on, it’s called “Politics for Dummies!” You can scan the whole thing in less than an hour. But you don’t even have to read every page. In fact, just read part of page 236, kinda in the middle: “As soon as voters begin laughing at a candidate, that candidate IS FINISHED in an election (emphasis mine). He won’t be taken seriously AGAIN (more emphasis)…voters don’t view candidates as serious contenders when candidates become the butt of entertaining jokes.” And the last few days have been more than entertaining enough, at SLC’s expense. When you sit in on a poker table and you’re not sure who shouldn’t be at the table, it’s you who shouldn’t be at the table. Make the call (If for no other reason, Rich has to sleep, for cryin’ out loud!)
Regarding the endorsements - I’d like to point out that Personal PAC and probably Planned “Parenthood too although I can’t find their endorsement list right now - endorsed multiple candidates in the LG race. They simply let you know who is pro-choice in the race. Because they’re on this list it makes it look like they chose SLC over the others, which is not true.”
So, what you are saying is that I shouldn’t trust their endorsement? Really?
Looks like he may be announcing his withdrawal in style… roped-off table, bottle of Cristal, walk in with an entourage of ladies on his arms… yelling “You want to see hookers, I’ll show you hookers!” Have a seat, withdraw, and give the media a big double-barreled one finger salute. Wouldn’t put it past him.
- the Other Anonymous - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 9:24 pm:
HWah asks about the Planned Parenthood and Personal PAC endorsements: So, what you are saying is that I shouldn’t trust their endorsement? Really?
Well, read the original comment that pointed out that the organization endorsed multiple candidates for LG because there were multiple candidates who were pro-choice. This is a matter of a single-issue group saying you can trust these candidates to be pro-choice; we make no recommendation on other issues, you decide.
So yes, you can trust the endorsement because, in fact, nothing that we’ve learned about SLC has put into question his pro-choice credentials.
Screw it! Anyone want to go to Vertigo and go have a face to face with SLC? We can say we are on SLC’s guest list and are on his tab! Then we can youtube SLC dropping out of the race from Vertigo! Yes this is snarky, but I mean, someone could go down there and seriously do this right now.
I love reading national public radio bumpkin who voted for scott lee cohen bashing the capitol fax circa 1997 format since we can’t all be senior content developer’s? Which is media speak for I post links to actual journalist’s blogs?
This is like a high school freshman b baseball player calling out mark buerhle, or a scott lee cohen voter calling out someone with half a brain.
“Thank you for showing up tonight. After much thought and consideration it is now clear to me I will not be able to serve as this great State’s Lt Gov. The Democratic Party of Illinois has made it clear they do not want me representing their party in November. Fine. I will drop out of this race as soon as the two campaign co-chairs who brought this state Rod Blagojevich resign their offices also. I will not be making any further comments until Michael Madigan and Richard Daley have a chance to take responsibility for backing Rod Blagojevich. Thank you for coming”
columbia college-translation I couldn’t get into medill. web content developer-translation-I don’t have the skills to do actual reporting.
when you regain your sanity from this mess, you still haven’t done a post election recap. A lot of faces/teams have been deposed from the scene or are out the door- hynes,stroger,hastert,ryan,hamos,coulson perhaps team edgar if dillard fails that have been around a long time, being replaced with a rising crowd.
=These people vouched for him and now they look like tools=
Obamarama, thank you. You get it. There is so much blame to go around related to the SLC fiasco that one barely knows where to start. But the one group whom I cannot abide hearing being blamed are the so called “stupid” voters. For decades voters and city workers in Chicago have been taught to trust and rely on endorsements and recommendations from their ward and precinct committeemen. That’s what many voters did this time, too. Since when did we start expecting voters to do individual google searches on each and every candidate on each and evey ballot? What goes around comes around.
======This is a matter of a single-issue group saying you can trust these candidates to be pro-choice; we make no recommendation on other issues, you decide.
So yes, you can trust the endorsement because, in fact, nothing that we’ve learned about SLC has put into question his pro-choice credentials.=========
I personally don’t think you get off without a ding or two here. Really, you are going to tell me to look to at shiny objects off to one side while telling me what to do when looking in the other.
I think you got burned on this one, but also think that single-issue groups don’t get to hide. Because “whoop-te-do” someone you supported sucks. I don’t want to hear more excuses, I want to understand how you won’t let this happen again.
I assume you aren’t saying you’d still support Cohen, are you?
I voted for Quinn. I didn’t vote for Cohen. I didn’t vote for anyone I didn’t know of. Sure, the ballot machine squawked. Election judge pushed a button and sent it through anyway. Get rid of this guy. What the heck were the Democratic Party “leaders” doing while this disaster was unfolding? Get rid of them too. What a mess. What an embarrassment. There are unemployed people that could have handled this better. Give some of them the jobs. Obviously it’s become “boring” for some of these chubbies.
G’nite all and thanks for putting up with us Mr. M. I’m thinking SLC is a guy whose own family probably does not like him all that much…what does he care whether he’s beloved by the citizens of Illinois? He paid for that spot…will follow the Blago model for standing up for the little guy (yeah, right)…and good luck prying his cold dead hands from the ticket.
Rich, I am a regular reader of the blog, though I have never commented. But I felt the need to say something in response to your comment: “It isn’t just that he allegedly knifed his girlfriend in the throat - I’m assuming that hooker girlfriends may not be incredibly reliable.” This statement just feeds into the myth that women involved in prostitution can’t be raped, can’t be attacked and are probably making it up if they are. I am not going to defend SLC. He is clearly a scumbag. But it doesn’t really help your case if you are making disparaging comments about women while pointing out his faults.
so if SLC does drop…will there be a move for turner? If so someone ought to check Art’s D-2s cause methinks there is about 25K written to himself in cash payments and lots of other irregularities…we dont need more bs on top of this disaster
- i'm just saying... - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 10:02 pm:
i’m guessing he’s pulling our chain…….
- i'm just saying... - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 10:03 pm:
nothing on WLS yet…… WMAQ says nothing happening yet, they are waiting for him to show up, if the comes in the next 30 mins, they will break in
Come on SLC, Don’t go away mad, Just go away….
- Ashamed to be from Illinois - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 10:04 pm:
A couple of years later after the Fed arrested him. All those that supported him for 6 years then jumped ship, even though they knew it in 2006.
- i'm just saying... - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 10:04 pm:
Ben Bradley outisde of Vertigo…..
- i'm just saying... - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 10:05 pm:
Bradley showing the table, Cohen nothing where to be found
As someone who actually “thought” about whom I would vote for, I haven’t smiled this much in the past year (December 7th, 2008, when they perp-walked the former Governor from his house in cuffs).
Only the knuckleheads that voted for him, as well as those that refused to talk about issues that matter- such as “charactor”- have themselves to blame.
If you don’t know who to vote for- maybe use some actual “common sense” and “learn” about the candidates and the various issues. If some group or other candidates endorsed him based on his being a democrat- you only have yourselves to blame.
Just because you don’t like the results, doesn’t mean that you can shirk the blame onto others. Man up- no one held a knife to your throat (sorry, no pun intended) to vote for either Rod for Governor the last two times- or for this guy. I have often thought that Illinois ought to have some stricter standards on voting….maybe that would help make up for some of the down right idiotic voting that seems to prevail in the Democratic Party primaries.
A bit ot, but has anyone else started hearing from the out-of-state relatives and friends with the snarky comments re: SLC, Dillard/Brady, and Illinois politics?
The embarrassment never stops.
Regardless of how this happened or how it is fixed, spare me the platitudinous pomposity from the likes of Quinn, (D-Incompetent Hack) Durbin,
(D-Burris) Lisa Madigan (D-Daddy’s Girl) and MJM (D-Madigan)
I’m not sure if “moral authority” is exactly the right description, but IMHO their individual and collective failure to properly diligence a candidate who clearly had red lights flashing all around him long before the primary should preclude each of them from telling SLC what to do.
Each of them, and their ample staffs, blew it. Bigtime.
===A bit ot, but has anyone else started hearing from the out-of-state relatives and friends with the snarky comments re: SLC, Dillard/Brady, and Illinois politics?
The embarrassment never stops. =====
I keep thinking of a Saturday Night Live episode about Blagojevich.
Elizabeth Dole: And—and let me add something: In my opinion, you are a disgrace to the state of Illinois. [briefly considers what she just said]: Well, maybe not to Illinois, but you know what I’m sayin’. If you were the governor of any other state, you would be a disgrace to that state.
The lawyer talking head on wttw last night, if I understood him correctly, said that in Illinois, political parties don’t formally approve candidates for slating. They get the right number of signatures and voila they get to run. There are other states which do approve candidate slates, supposedly. Maybe after SLC withdraws, as he will, eventually, we should check out the other states procedures. Alas, we’re Illinois. We never learn from anything.
I was googling the Rep. lt. governor candidate today and he is breathtakingly wholesome. I almost sent him a check right then and there.
SLC’s win is historical. It is the tipping point in our state’s political theater of the absurd. It shakes Illinois to the core and forces us to recognize just how bad Illinois politics have become. After Ryan. After Blagojevich. After impeachment. After Stroger. After GA budget gridlock. During the worse recession in two generations.
SLC jams all of this into our faces and demands that we throw out every single incumbant out of office.
“I bet you are tired following all my clues … you know what might make you feel better … a massage, so go to the place ‘Adam and Eve’ might be found in Elk Grove … go in the 3rd stall and get your next clue ….”
lol… and y’all thought I was kidding about this Scavenger Hunt … “The Amazing Concession” “This is the Amazing Concession. Twelve of IL’s finest reporters will take you through the ups and downs of tracking the prize - SLC …”
- i'm just saying... - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 10:39 pm:
before I go up, Although I didn’t know him that well, I have to say That Carlos Hernandez Gomez would be in his glory right now
I’m sure he’s having a great time in the big news room in the sky :)
Crap. Letterman is a repeat. I don’t know how I am supposed to feel about SLC until a national talk show host tells me.
- Pot calling kettle - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 10:42 pm:
Just catching up, too many posts to read them all without falling further behind!
I was willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt when the first few nuggets rolled out, then he goes on Chicago Tonight and says his life is an open book and he’s telling us everything. In the same breath he refuses to talk about his child support and alimony issues. That was the last straw.
If he stays on the ticket, I’ll still vote for Quinn, but it’ll be a tough vote. No way do I want Brady/Plummer. Of course, there’s always Rich Whitney.
Who I am I blaming for this? MJM
Why? There should have been an amendment to let the Gov. candidates designate their running mates after the 1986 debacle and he is the go-to guy for these things.
I also blame the rest of our Dem leaders. There should have been a Dem slate this year, and their unwillingness to work together for the common good made Cohen’s win possible.
What a ramble…I guess that goes with wine blogging.
I have to agree with the criticism of Grainger Terry. I would think that a good political consultant would evaluate (do opposition research) on their candidate to see if they can win the election to office. Grainger Terry did not get this guy elected; Grainger Terry won the nomination and now the guy is getting slaughtered in the press and they say “no more reporters?”
If Grainger Terry had any professionalism, they would have told SLC “This is going to blow up in your face, you should walk away now”. If SLC didn’t like that answer then Grainger Terry should have walked away.
How can Grainger Terry be trusted by any of their clients with regards to their advice? How can Grainger Terry do any fundraising for potential clients when their donors all look like idiots. Grainger Terry will close their doors. They are done in the political arena — maybe they’ll open as a different name and reorgainize but their credibility is done.
I also second the sentiment that Madigan should had done opposition research on all the Democratic candidates to ward off these types of issues. He failed the Democratic Party and the Democratic voters of Illinois.
SLC was supposed to be here at Vertigo to concede at 9. His spokesperson has not or returned a call from NBC, WGN, CBS, the trib WTTW or the Sun- times since 2 pm. SLC reserved a table at Vertigo for 5 people. He did not leave a credit card number. Sun times, trib and AP just left. No SLC sighting!
- Quinn T. Sential - Friday, Feb 5, 10 @ 10:56 pm:
Just came back home to find all this non-sense and I have to ask; raise your hand honestly if you stayed up late like this waiting for Geraldo to blow open Al Capone’s vault.
Progress Illinois and WTTW and anonymous are the only one’s left at Vertigo. Chicago TV and Print media refused to go to SLC’s house in Wicker Park to ring his doorbell. Anonymous is still considering it.
Man! As a citizen of Illinois, I’m appalled at this guy. As a Republican in Illinois, I’m appalled at this guy. I can just imagine the type of comments you have been deleting. This guy is toast, period. No alibi or explanation will save him.
I understand he can’t be forced off the ballot. Its either resign in disgrace, or run and continue to be disgraced.
But what about that major REFORM that our Springfield angels refused to adopt that may have assisted in preventing all of this drama. You know, the one that would have pushed the primary date back to May or June? The compressed primary schedule actually was a factor in allowing this guy to sneak under the radar screen.
Let’s start out with a demand that the primary be set in May or June, hell I would even take August in future election cycles.
Grainger Terry deserves no blame. They probably told him this could be an issue. Did they advise records be sealed? He even claim clean to some extent beforehand. But in the end, he had the cash, and GT was willing to entertain him, and it worked well. In the end, they’ve made a lot of money and demonstrated their effectiveness. Maybe they thought coming clean was enough, or that the press would come earlier, but they shouldn’t be blamed for this mess.
Have allready placed calls to Madigan’s offices expressing displeasure with his lack of vetting SLC on behalf of the Democratic Party of Illinois. Believe it is time for MM to start saddling his horse and start that ride ” into the sunset “.
Quinn, Madigan and Durbin, etc had no problem running on a ticket with Rod Blagojevich. They swallowed their pride and they did it TWICE. The difference is that Blago WAS vetted and everybody knew what a train wreck he was before the election. And nobody called for him to drop out and he won anyway.
- The REAL Anonymous...fka Anonymous - Saturday, Feb 6, 10 @ 10:35 am:
Wow. Anonymous is pretty determined. Good for you!
Wow! What a mess. A mess that could have been avoided by political leaders after it happened in 1986. Why in the world after that Larouchie debacle did our “leaders not take the politcal and legislative steps necessary to avoid a repeat?
Yes Rich, He Won is enough. Unless you would like to have your candidates appointed by political insiders, you MUST accept that elections have consequences. If the people of Illinois decide the guy is unfit to serve, they can vote for the Republican ticket. That is how our democracy functions.
=== If the people of Illinois decide the guy is unfit to serve, they can vote for the Republican ticket. That is how our democracy functions.===
Nice try. There’s no law against him stepping down.
- dump the shady banker - Saturday, Feb 6, 10 @ 6:25 pm:
Gosh, the Democratic leaders sure have a double standard. Why aren’t the Democratic Party leaders asking Alexi to quit. His bank is being investigated and he was the chief loan officer. He did a little old lady out of her building, okayed questionable loans. By November the Republicans will have made toast out of him. So if the can’t boot Alexi why boot SLC, the voters selected both of these yoyos.
She DID hire Gloria Allred. Who called that in the comments?
- Pot calling kettle - Saturday, Feb 6, 10 @ 10:54 pm:
Suntimes article ==A convicted prostitute who accused Democratic Lt. Governor nominee Scott Lee Cohen of threatening her with a knife told the Chicago Sun-Times today she “does not believe he is fit to hold any public office.’’==
I just got back home last night from a three week vacation. All I heard from afar was the result of the Alexi and Kirk primaries.
Today, i discover that Julie Hamos, Beth Coulson, Suzie Bassi, and possibly others are out of politics for the time being. No winner yet for either Dem or Repub Governor primary races, and the Lt. Gov race just gave us our first winner dropout.
I have to predict a low turnout for the November elections. Not a rebellion against incumbents of either party, just a disallusionment with the political and electoral process by Illinois residents. Blame them?