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Pollster fled, money burned, tea sipped

Monday, Sep 27, 2010 - Posted by Rich Miller

[Comments opened and post bumped up from Saturday for visibility.]

* The Tribune finally catches up to a Pat Quinn campaign story that subscribers have known about since Wednesday

Quinn’s political circle is small and lately, unstable. Quinn recently parted ways with his longtime political consulting firm, AKPD Message & Media. Last week, Quinn dropped pollster Anzalone Liszt Research Inc.

Actually, Quinn’s campaign didn’t say that it “dropped” the polling firm. It quit. Imagine having to start all over with a new pollster this close to an election. Unreal.

* Meanwhile, time is fast running out for politicians to make their case on TV without all the other clutter, if it hasn’t expired already. The Tribune reports that $3 million was spent on campaign TV ads this past week in Chicago, and claims the total could reach $7 million a week by the end of it all. Here’s the Chicago media market breakdown…

* Alexi Giannoulias: $500,00 from campaign, and $200,000 more from the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee

* Mark Kirk: $363,000 from his campaign, and another $360,000 from Karl Rove’s American Crossroads

* Gov. Pat Quinn: $450,000

* Bill Brady: $240,000

* Scott Lee Cohen: $100,000

* Debbie Halvorson: $334,000

* Bill Foster: $200,000

Keep in mind that the statewides are also spending money Downstate in varying degrees.

* ABC7 also did a story about the new TV ads


* And here’s a Rasmussen poll that I forgot to post [Friday]

One-in-five Illinois voters (22%) consider themselves to be a part of the Tea Party movement. This is slightly lower than involvement nationally.

A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the state finds that 63% do not associate themselves with the Tea Party, and 15% are not sure whether their views are in line with the movement.

Forty-five percent (45%) of voters in the state think the Tea Party is good for the country, which is right in line with national sentiments. Twenty-nine percent (29%) disagree and say it is bad for the country, while 14% feel it is neither good nor bad. Another 12% are not sure what kind of impact the Tea Party movement has on the country. […]

Forty-one percent (41%) of Republicans consider themselves Tea Party members, while 10% of Democrats and 21% of voters not affiliated with either major political party do the same.

Similarly, a solid majority of GOP voters and unaffiliateds feel the Tea Party movement is good for the country, while a plurality of Democrats disagree.

* Toplines

* Do you consider yourself part of the Tea Party Movement?

22% Yes
63% No
15% Not sure

* Is The Tea Party movement good for the country or bad for the country?

45% Good
29% Bad
14% Neither
12% Not sure

       

21 Comments
  1. - wordslinger - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 11:43 am:

    They’re carving each other up pretty good in the Quinn campaign. Monday mornings at the office must be pretty grim.

    Still, I saw a negative spot that focused solely on Brady’s not paying income tax. That was a gift from many months ago that should have been hammered every day.


  2. - VanillaMan - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 11:55 am:

    Beloved VanillaWife saw Quinn ad about Brady and taxes and was upset about Brady until I told her about Brady not owing taxes. Then she got angry that Quinn led her on like that.

    So the accusation does hurt Brady until the facts come out. Also it is in Brady’s interest to keep his ad on air explaing Quinn’s accusations. Voters like VanillaWife are needed by Quinn. Id the Governor is shown to be misleading on this, Quinn loses.


  3. - A.B. - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 12:05 pm:

    I am intrigued by the concept that slightly fewer people identify themselves as Tea Partiers in Illinois. I would have expected that in this blue and very moderate state the Tea Party would have had significantly less traction….


  4. - Sue - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 12:07 pm:

    The Governor’s election is all but over- Quinn had two years to demonstrate he could govern and failed- the only question is how much damage he does to the rest of the D’s on ballot- Brady will inherit a mess and God help us if he also fails to step up and do something constructive-


  5. - Ghost - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 12:21 pm:

    I saw a Quinn ad on TV today! I blinked and almost missed it, but it was there.


  6. - CircularFiringSquad - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 12:32 pm:

    Wait til voters hear a little about freezing educators salaries to balance the state budget and a return to “Right To Work” to get jobs back.
    Don’t think the election is over just yet kiddos


  7. - CircularFiringSquad - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 12:35 pm:

    Hey Vanilla
    BTW did you tell the wifey that NoTaxBill was still rolling around in the Porsche and sipping pina coladas at the FL condo while his non union work force continued to slap up the substandard homes the Brady’s are famous for?
    Or did you give the line that NoTaxBill could not pay any taxes because of Obama’s bailouts?


  8. - Concerned Voter - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 1:07 pm:

    I liked the poll at the end of the post. I’d consider myself an independent, that leans more to the republican side, but I think the tea party movement is good. I think the political system in our country needs a shake up, not a shake down. It would be really interesting to see a major third party player develop sometime soon. Maybe the threat of a viable 3rd party would get the Reps and Dems back to working for the people that voted for them, not for the next campaign contribution.


  9. - Anonymous - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 1:19 pm:

    “…I think the tea party movement is good. I think the political system in our country needs a shake up, not a shake down. It would be really interesting to see a major third party player develop sometime soon. Maybe the threat of a viable 3rd party would get the Reps and Dems back to working for the people that voted for them, not for the next campaign contribution.”
    I agree. Personally, I would rather see a third-party either dead center on social issues, or one purely focused on financial than social, but either way any alternative that gives citizens a choice instead of settling for party mediocrity on either side of the aisle is an improvement.


  10. - A.B. - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 1:27 pm:

    @ Anon

    Not arguing with you, just want to point out that “dead center on social issues” is defined differently by just about every person. … and talk about a candidate who wouldn’t want to answer a question….wow.


  11. - Fred - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 1:28 pm:

    To CircularFiringSquad———-Those comments were pretty funny. Totally inaccurate but hilarious nonetheless.

    I wonder what multi-millionaire BO is doing these days and how many vacations he has planned for 2011. 6? 8? 12?


  12. - shore - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 1:31 pm:

    Alexi only had 1 million bucks left in his bank account at the last filing. Will be interesting to see how he is doing now, because 500k is a lot for a guy to spend on just one week given his scarce resources.


  13. - VanillaMan - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 2:12 pm:

    I do not casually refer to VanillaWife as “wifey”, nor do I use any other condescending terms regarding other’s wives.

    As to Mr. Brady’s Porsche I could care less. As to his Florida condo, they are a dime a dozen. As to his business practices, I leave that to the appropriate authorities.

    As to factual accuracies, I do as others do -ignore bloviating crap master like you.


  14. - OneMan - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 2:14 pm:

    For those of you who support Pat I guess my question is how do you think he has done so far and if you don’t think he has done that well do you think it will be better over the next 4 years if he wins.

    Will he get better at being governor?

    Also what do the campaign firings and departures say about Pat?


  15. - OneMan - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 2:15 pm:

    Also yet again… Brady not paying taxes bad, Alexi not paying taxes ok?


  16. - Anonymous - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 2:19 pm:

    Enough with the tax thing. You see how fast even Rich backed away from it. It’s a silly issue.


  17. - wordslinger - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 2:33 pm:

    My, some sensitive folks here.

    You can’t do a political spot on a millionaire, Porsche-driving, Florida-condo-owning, no-tax-paying opponent? In this economy?

    Is this a new Marquis de Queensbury rule? Does it apply to all candidates, or just the ones you don’t like?

    Quinn’s just crazy he hasn’t been nailing it from Day One.

    Kirk uses it against Alexi. He should probably do it more, too.

    It is true, right?


  18. - Ghost - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 2:40 pm:

    OneMan that depends, do you think we are currently just in the frying pan? or have we already lept into the fire.


  19. - Amalia - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 4:15 pm:

    here’s a question: do you consider the Tea Party to be
    a grass roots movement or is it astroturfed? Think Progress has been following the Tea Party funders, and it’s
    not just Dick Armey, but industrial brothers named Koch
    whose donations make George Soros look like a lightweight.
    be afraid, very afraid.


  20. - VanillaMan - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 6:22 pm:

    Those questions have been answered about a year ago. Acccusations of astroturfing has never panned out. Think Progress is not a viable source of information on this.

    Face it, your neighbors are angry. They want scalps. They are voting out incumbents during primaries, and are posed to do the same in four more weeks.

    They are very real.


  21. - Retired Non-Union Guy - Monday, Sep 27, 10 @ 6:22 pm:

    Most of the tea party people I know seem to be Nixon’s silent majority … only this time they aren’t silent, they are po’ed … and are more than happy to have a few angels in the background providing some of the funding to offset the Wall Street bankers and Hollywood know nothings …


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