Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » *** UPDATED x2 - Coroner issues report - Arrangements announced *** State Police director stonewalls all questions on Davlin death
* I have a meeting with State Police Acting Director Jonathon Monken later today to ask him about yesterday’s worthless and perhaps even harmful press conference….
Illinois State Police refused Tuesday to release any details about the death of Springfield Mayor Tim Davlin, whose body was found Tuesday morning in his home on Apple Creek Drive.
Sources told The State Journal-Register that Davlin, 53, died from a gunshot wound, apparently self-inflicted, but State Police Director Jonathon Monken refused Tuesday afternoon to confirm that or say even whether the mayor had been shot. […]
Monken did not rule out foul play.
“It’s always considered when you’re looking at a death investigation,” Monken said.
Asked during a Tuesday afternoon news conference whether residents in the area should be concerned about the possibility of homicide, Monken did not give a direct answer. […]
Monken would not say why he would not tell reporters whether the mayor had been shot. He also refused to be specific when asked whether anyone else was in Davlin’s home. […]
Speaking more than six hours after the mayor’s death, Monken said police also had not yet determined who called 911 or what telephone number the call came from.
Not good at all. There’s really no excuse for withholding all information from the public. Last I checked, this was still a democracy. But we’ll see what Monken says.
* Todd Renfrow just said on the radio that Mayor Davlin’s wake will be at Blessed Sacrament tomorrow at 2 o’clock. The funeral will be at 10 o’clock on Friday.
*** UPDATE 1 *** Strike those times and dates. Renfrow may have made a mistake. Checking.
Springfield Mayor Tim Davlin died Tuesday of a gunshot wound to the chest, apparently self-inflicted, according to Sangamon County Coroner Susan Boone’s office, which conducted an autopsy Wednesday morning.
I would suggest he never do that again and doubt he should be director of the state police. There wasn’t a single sworn trooper who could have done this and in fact been useful.
I listened to the press conference. Monken prefaced his remarks by saying that he could not give any details about the investigation at the time. Without firm facts about which to speak, I thought he presented the progress of the investigation well. He did not waver from a professional demeanor in his remarks. Implying that “democracy” was somehow breached by his presentation is an over-the-top assessment.
My much bigger concern is that the autopsy/cause of death is being handled by Susan Boone, the coroner, who has been called out many times for her ability to perform the functions of that office in a professional and competent manner.
I don’t mind that they weren’t giving out details, this is a democracy but that does not entitle media types to all information whenever they want it. This is a police investigation and they need to do their due diligence before giving out that information. They also need to make sure family is informed of all the facts before releasing out information that could be speculative. I know there were family members who found from the media or others who found out from the media first and that’s a shame.
The problem was that they even had the press conference. There was no reason for it at all. Just release a statement.
Well if you are not going to give out any details, then why are you going to answer freaking questions?
What did he think the reporters were going to ask. Normally in a press conference after someone is found dead they will admit if it appeared the person was shot.
Why in the world did he feel compelled to hold the press conference in the first place. It is odd at best and shows a complete disconnect with the citizens he serves.
- Lincoln Parker - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:35 am:
When Quinn appointed Monken I thought he was supposed to be some wunderkind that would bring a fresh perspective to the ISP. It is clear that he has failed and the rank & file feel the same. He needs to go.
I am sure it is hard not to get details when they are wanted. but, more often than not, lately, law enforcement is wisely NOT jumping to share, not jumping to conclusions, waiting to say when the work is done. It’s so much better that way for so many reasons. Yes, there are leaks, yes, they may be confirmed later, but letting law enforcement do the job and then getting the details is the way it should work. It’s professional.
–Speaking more than six hours after the mayor’s death, Monken said police also had not yet determined who called 911 or what telephone number the call came from.–
I find that virtually impossible to believe, unless the Springfield 911 system is 30-years-old.
Is this Moncken’s first death investigation, ever? If so, maybe he shouldn’t be in front of the cameras. I’ve covered a number of death investigations, and there are ways to maintain the integrity of of an investigation while still giving the public some pertinent information.
If that’s all he was going to say, he shouldn’t have had a press conference; a release would suffice.
For Pete’s sake, at least give a straight answer as to whether or not you think there’s a homicidal maniac on the loose.
I still don’t understand why ISP was called in, anyway. I understand the mayor was a city official, but I don’t think that automatically disqualifies the Springfield police.
“The problem was that they even had the press conference. There was no reason for it at all. Just release a statement.”
My thoughts exactly. All this did was fuel tinfoil hat speculation. If they aren’t going to release anything official until the autopsy is done and the family has been informed of the results, why didn’t they just say so.
–Because he wants to be confirmed and needs to sound like he’s a cop to the legislators. –
If that’s the case, then shame on him. It should be viewed as a solemn duty, not resume padding.
- RetiredStateEmployee - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:02 am:
That was pathetic. I feel sorry for ISP for being led by another incompetent. Blago gone, more of the same politics with political appointees without proper skills for the job. Too bad…
That conference hints at how far down the ISP has descended.A press conference to get a face in front of the public asking for questions and refusing to answer them.A sad plight for a once proud agency.
Monken should simply have indicated that the ISP was not prepared to issue any statements at this time - period! By indicating to the public that homicide is being considered does nothing but add to the angst of the Davlin family, neighbors and the general public when it is probably not warranted.
Amalia, I don’t see how you can characterize Moncken’s performance as professional law enforcement. That’s actually a smack at real detectives.
He chose to have a press conference, for whatever reasons. If you make that choice, you’re going to have to release some information. You can use conditional phrases such as “at this time,” “pending further investigation,” “no reason to believe,” etc.
All he did was muddy the waters, and provide fuel for the tinfoil types.
I just heard something on that video which I missed yesterday. 6 hours after the ISP took control of the investigation, they hadn’t yet reviewed the 911 call. Unreal.
I’m glad Mr. and Mrs. Illinois Taxpayer get an opportunity to see for themselves why Monken has not yet been confirmed as ISP Director. He is completely unqualified for the position, and there’s no better example of that than this video.
The police seem more secretive all of the time. Wordslinger’s comment about a homicidal maniac is right on the mark. Sheriff Nichols (ex-ISP) in Logan County did the same thing after the Gee murders in Beason; people were loading guns, gettint them out of gun cabinets and laying them under beds, etc.
All police have to do is tell people that this appears to be personal incident.
One of these days the refusal to reassure the public is going to get an innocent person killed, by some paranoid homeowner.
Quinn needs to look NOW for a new director; this guy is already a failure.
–6 hours after the ISP took control of the investigation, they hadn’t yet reviewed the 911 call. Unreal.–
Again, I find that very hard to believe. I think the odds are better that Moncken’s just wrong on that point. That’s the starting point of the timeline, for crying out loud.
Agreed, wordslinger. He’s either not telling the truth or there’s something really wrong with the priorities of the ISP.
- Living in Oklahoma - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:36 am:
= The police seem more secretive all of the time =
= this guy is already a failure. =
=He is completely unqualified for the position =
= A sad plight for a once proud agency. =
= led by another incompetent. Blago gone =
Everyone of these statements made on this post are false, misleading, or just plain ridiculous. A total over reaction.
- Small Town Liberal - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:38 am:
- He’s either not telling the truth or there’s something really wrong with the priorities of the ISP. -
I think, like wordslinger said, that he’s just wrong about this. I don’t think he’s lying, I think he may be incompetent and had a press conference without all of the facts.
@ Wordslinger, based on my discussions with prosecutors, they appreciate when police do not release details. certainly things can be done in a more artful fashion, but law enforcement must simply do it’s job. note that my initial comment is, like this one, not particular to ISP Director Monken, but meant to support police who don’t speak before facts are in.
This wasn’t just Monken. The state police’s default position for years has been “if we know something and you don’t, we win.” The SJ-R did a series of FOIA stories a couple years ago that highlighted the ISP’s complete disregard for the public’s (not just the media’s) right to know basic facts about crimes and criminal prosecution.
Between the ISP and Coroner Susan Boone, I expect to hear later today that Tim Davlin died of a lightning strike.
Unprofessional handling of a very public crisis by head of ISP…how are we to have confidence in the ability of the State Police leadership to effectively handle a major public safety crisis if this is how he handles a press conference?
Okie, you can be a highly educated, very successful solider and businessperson, and that does not remotely qualify you to take the lead on a death investigation. Those detectives are highly educated, skilled professionals in their own right.
Out of thousands of police reports I’ve read on incidents that involved a 911 call, they all began: 911 received a call at (time) from (number/unknown number) from (name/male/female/unknown) stating…..”
That’s the beginning of the investigation.
The idea that the ISP had not reviewed the 911 call six hours after being brought into the case is simply not credible (at least I hope not). My guess is Moncken was simply wrong. It was a ridiculous thing to say.
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:52 am:
Now seems like a really good time to reiterate my suggestion that State Senator John Millner be appointed to fill the State Police Director’s slot.
Millner has the perfect credentials: a former suburban police chief and the former president of the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police.
He’s been praised for his common sense and bipartisanship — among other things, he was a sponsor of State Rep. Connie Howard’s expungement legislation to give ex-offenders a second chance.
He would be a huge asset to the Quinn administration, helping to garner bipartisan support for Quinn’s budget. He’s also a firewall against criticism, because unlike Monken (fairly or not), lawmakers trust his judgment.
P.S. While we’re at it, let’s not forget my recommendation that Rep. Sacia be named to head the Dept. of Corrections: a former FBI agent who supported the sale of Thompson prison to the federales.
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:52 am:
“Now seems like a really good time to reiterate my suggestion that State Senator John Millner be appointed to fill the State Police Director’s slot.
Millner has the perfect credentials: a former suburban police chief and the former president of the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police.”
Seconded, although I am not too sure John would want the job. His part-time gig with the GA is a pretty cushy post-retirement job. I can’t imagine he’d want to jump back into the hot seat after sitting in it so many years in Elmhurst.
It’s apparent that two things will come of this. First, Mr. Monken will probably be goaded into stepping down or will be (perhaps) forcefully told by legislators to drop out of the nomination/confirmation process. Second, someone at ISP may very well spill the beans. The SJ-R is two blocks from the ISP headquarters and there are enough connected people at the agency - desk staff and sworn officers - who may want to see Monken and senior staff squirm. I don’t think Monken and his top staff thought this through very well. He looked even sillier when the local paper and national news services leaked inside sources’ suicide revelation.
- for what it's worth - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 12:32 pm:
awful press conference BUT 9-1-1 call data is confidential. enforcement agencies are compelled to get a court order directing the public safety answering point to release the information. how fast ISP did that is a factor in the timeline
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 12:33 pm:
@ Cincy:
There’s nothing fun, cushy, or remotely fulfilling about being a member of the Illinois General Assembly right now. Especially if you’re in the minority.
Plus, with redistricting around the corner, there’s not much job security.
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 12:36 pm:
BTW, I’m not really taking a position on what information Monken should or should not be releasing to the public at this point. Law enforcement considerations should come first.
However, if that had been Millner in front of the microphone yesterday instead of Monken, saying the exact same things, I think there would be little if any criticism.
I’m pretty sure that 911 calls are not private but are public information. Many recordings of 911 calls in Sangamon County have been released over the years. I anticipate this one will be released in due time.
Well, I’m all for a free press, but really, the whining after the press conference did not sway me. People are acting like this was a crime on a TV show that is wrapped up and solved in 45 minutes. ISP was dumb to open up for questions they couldn’t answer, because it would impede the investigation process or because they really didn’t know. When they HAVE some answers, of course, they should release that information, as appropriate. But radio and TV reporters should not have had any expectations this early in the case anyhow. If they want to play detective, they should take acting lessons or something.
And ISP should have been more intent on managing a crime scene and investigation than pandering to the press, when they really had nothing to give. Who was that wacky small-town mayor last year, who was grandstanding some crime story? Anybody remember that? This case reminded me of that one. Telling that I really don’t remember much about that case now, except how that mayor injected himself into the story and looked like an idiot.
I appologize for my ignorance on this, but does the head of the ISP usually do the press conferences on death investigation? And to what extent is he actually involved in the case? I know this is an unusual case, but it did seem odd that he was the one to do the press conference (outside of the fact that it was odd to have the press conference in the first place).
Complete lack of police experience displayed by Monken. Every real police officer knows to not comment on an investigation that is on going. Give the statement, and then walk away. “The matter is pending investigation….” Monken’s lack of experience is very evident in this case!!!
Yellow Dog -
You are probably correct - if that had been Millner none of this would be being said. However - it would never be Millner in that position. He would have released a statement or been prepared to share appropriate information. He knows how to handle an investigation, keep the public comfortable with the steps law enforcement is taking regarding their safety and respect the press, realizing that they have a job to do as well.
This reminds me of the Country Club Hills mayor who embarrassed himself at his own press conference following Chris Kelly’s death. Or like Al Haig: “I’m in charge here.”
Something must compel these guys, like an instinct, that they say to themselves, “here’s a heater case, and therefore I must appear before the cameras to demonstrate my on-top-of-it-ness.”
Moncken and the mayor of CCH leaped into the spotlight and made fools of themselves. Hey guys, it’s not about you. And try to act like you’ve been there before.
To me, this smacks of inexperience combined with bad judgement combined with ego, which is not a healthy mix. I can’t wait to hear about Rich’s interview today.
“so monken wont give any details but the coroner just said that it was a self inflicted gunshot wound to the chest.”
Is that not the proper order of things? Cause of death is the coroners call, not the cops.
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 3:20 pm:
@Just sayin’ - Millner might have made a different call. If it had been my decision, I probably would’ve sent the agency spokesperson instead of the director. But we’ll never know.
Ronbo, you were deleted because you don’t know what you’re talking about. There’s no such prohibition. Try using the Google before posting ignorant “questions” here. Quite simple, really.
I agree that all of these press conferences have been a little silly since nobody is answering any questions yet (which I think is fine). The city should have simply said in their conference that the mayor was found dead in his home, the ISP has been called in to investigate due to the potential conflict of interest, and an investigation was underway. Walk away and take no questions. There was no need for the Monken press conference b/c all that needed to be said was said at the city press conference. If he wanted the conference that was stupid. Or, maybe he got bad advice.
I, however, am not going to go all bananas over Monken like I think Rich did. Yeah, the press conference was a screw up but you really think you needed to be so harsh on him? I’ve only heard good things about how he is doing. The ISP insiders are always going to whine b/c they think everthing needs their blessing and that they should annoint a Director. I was completely skeptical at first about Monken. Give him his hearing and let things happen from there.
The press conference was unnecessary. However, nobody should be answering any questions about an open case. If you don’t understand that, well then you are the idiot.
Sounds like you are a bit anti-law enforcement. Perhaps you can’t seem to obey the law . . .
Monken has not been educated yet in police work. When asked if Susan Boone was going to do the autopsy herself he said he didn’t know if she was or going to have someone else do it! Wow, an elected official doing medical investigation? He doesn’t even know you must be a forensic pathologist (doctor) to “do” autopsy work. He needs to watch more CSI to catch up
I have nothing to do with the ISP nor have I ever had anything to do with it. You apparently are just another ISP whiner who thinks that you MUST be law enforcement to work at the agency. I work at a specialized agency in a high administrative position (granted it is finance) and I have never had any experience in that field. I don’t need it to do my job. I have served in manay positions over many years where this was the case and all higher ups have found my work above average. You police officers are something else. You stick with the police work and let the administrators do their work.
Perhaps you’d like to share what qualifications the 29 year old Mr. Monken has that would qualify him as an “administrator” with the second largest police dept in the state?
I have nothing to do with the ISP nor have I ever had anything to do with it. You apparently are just another ISP whiner who thinks that you MUST be law enforcement to work at the agency. I work at a specialized agency in a high administrative position (granted it is finance) and I have never had any experience in that field. I don’t need it to do my job. I have served in manay positions over many years where this was the case and all higher ups have found my work above average. You police officers are something else. You stick with the police work and let the administrators do their work.
No….not a whiner….I would just like to see the ISP return to what was a great agency in the not to distant past. The ISP is a mere shell of a full service police agency if compared to the early 90’s. It is fun by managers and bosses; not leaders and there is a difference.
Nope I am not, no I do not hate law enforcement, but then again I do not hide behind some online nick either. You know my name, how about sharing yours or are you too scared?
“Cheap Chanel bags”? Spam ads invading Cap Fax Blog? Yet another sign of the apocalypse
- Larry Mullholland - Thursday, Dec 16, 10 @ 10:34 am:
My heart is filled with sadness. Such a tragic loss for all who knew Tim Davlin. If you knew the Mayor, whether or not you agreed or disagreed with his leadership, he was good for Springfield and a joy to be near. He was good to his friends. Only time and more information can help us to understand the mounting issues he faced. Some issues will likely never be made public. He will be dearly missed my many. Thoughts and prayers are with his family & friends.
Regarding ISP, that press conference was absurd and an insult. Monken released less information than had already been released and reported. What ISP did was create suspicion and concern when it was just not needed. It was clear to those who knew what happened or perhaps those who know the law; Search warrants are needed when it is self inflicted……only in homicides or suspicious criminal activity do we not need a search warrant. Again the ISP press conference was just plain silly.
- OneMan - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:21 am:
Worst Press Conference ever….
I would suggest he never do that again and doubt he should be director of the state police. There wasn’t a single sworn trooper who could have done this and in fact been useful.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:23 am:
I listened to the press conference. Monken prefaced his remarks by saying that he could not give any details about the investigation at the time. Without firm facts about which to speak, I thought he presented the progress of the investigation well. He did not waver from a professional demeanor in his remarks. Implying that “democracy” was somehow breached by his presentation is an over-the-top assessment.
My much bigger concern is that the autopsy/cause of death is being handled by Susan Boone, the coroner, who has been called out many times for her ability to perform the functions of that office in a professional and competent manner.
- Ahoy - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:24 am:
I don’t mind that they weren’t giving out details, this is a democracy but that does not entitle media types to all information whenever they want it. This is a police investigation and they need to do their due diligence before giving out that information. They also need to make sure family is informed of all the facts before releasing out information that could be speculative. I know there were family members who found from the media or others who found out from the media first and that’s a shame.
The problem was that they even had the press conference. There was no reason for it at all. Just release a statement.
- OneMan - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:26 am:
Well if you are not going to give out any details, then why are you going to answer freaking questions?
What did he think the reporters were going to ask. Normally in a press conference after someone is found dead they will admit if it appeared the person was shot.
- Retired ISP - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:26 am:
Indecisiveness and secrecy has been an ISP trait for the last ten years or so for many in leadership positions.
- Retired ISP - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:29 am:
Even ISP members feel the same.
http://ispeeved.blogspot.com/
- Justice - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:33 am:
Why in the world did he feel compelled to hold the press conference in the first place. It is odd at best and shows a complete disconnect with the citizens he serves.
- Lincoln Parker - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:35 am:
When Quinn appointed Monken I thought he was supposed to be some wunderkind that would bring a fresh perspective to the ISP. It is clear that he has failed and the rank & file feel the same. He needs to go.
I wonder who is worse, him or Weis?
- amalia - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:38 am:
I am sure it is hard not to get details when they are wanted. but, more often than not, lately, law enforcement is wisely NOT jumping to share, not jumping to conclusions, waiting to say when the work is done. It’s so much better that way for so many reasons. Yes, there are leaks, yes, they may be confirmed later, but letting law enforcement do the job and then getting the details is the way it should work. It’s professional.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:38 am:
–Speaking more than six hours after the mayor’s death, Monken said police also had not yet determined who called 911 or what telephone number the call came from.–
I find that virtually impossible to believe, unless the Springfield 911 system is 30-years-old.
Is this Moncken’s first death investigation, ever? If so, maybe he shouldn’t be in front of the cameras. I’ve covered a number of death investigations, and there are ways to maintain the integrity of of an investigation while still giving the public some pertinent information.
If that’s all he was going to say, he shouldn’t have had a press conference; a release would suffice.
For Pete’s sake, at least give a straight answer as to whether or not you think there’s a homicidal maniac on the loose.
I still don’t understand why ISP was called in, anyway. I understand the mayor was a city official, but I don’t think that automatically disqualifies the Springfield police.
- Seneca - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:39 am:
Retired ISP - thanks for posting the link to the press conference, so we could see it for ourselves.
After watching it, all I can say is that whoever told him to do this presser was not a friend.
- Leave a light on George - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:42 am:
“Why in the world did he feel compelled to hold the press conference in the first place”
Because he wants to be confirmed and needs to sound like he’s a cop to the legislators.
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:47 am:
===this is a democracy but that does not entitle media types to all information whenever they want it. ===
True, but the public has a right to know some basic things and they were deliberately withheld by the ISP.
- OneMan - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:52 am:
== Because he wants to be confirmed and needs to sound like he’s a cop to the legislators. ==
Well that was a huge failure then
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:55 am:
Indeed.
- Secret Square - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:57 am:
“The problem was that they even had the press conference. There was no reason for it at all. Just release a statement.”
My thoughts exactly. All this did was fuel tinfoil hat speculation. If they aren’t going to release anything official until the autopsy is done and the family has been informed of the results, why didn’t they just say so.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 10:59 am:
–Because he wants to be confirmed and needs to sound like he’s a cop to the legislators. –
If that’s the case, then shame on him. It should be viewed as a solemn duty, not resume padding.
- RetiredStateEmployee - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:02 am:
That was pathetic. I feel sorry for ISP for being led by another incompetent. Blago gone, more of the same politics with political appointees without proper skills for the job. Too bad…
- sylvia - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:05 am:
That conference hints at how far down the ISP has descended.A press conference to get a face in front of the public asking for questions and refusing to answer them.A sad plight for a once proud agency.
- Fed-Up - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:08 am:
Monken should simply have indicated that the ISP was not prepared to issue any statements at this time - period! By indicating to the public that homicide is being considered does nothing but add to the angst of the Davlin family, neighbors and the general public when it is probably not warranted.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:10 am:
–It’s professional. –
Amalia, I don’t see how you can characterize Moncken’s performance as professional law enforcement. That’s actually a smack at real detectives.
He chose to have a press conference, for whatever reasons. If you make that choice, you’re going to have to release some information. You can use conditional phrases such as “at this time,” “pending further investigation,” “no reason to believe,” etc.
All he did was muddy the waters, and provide fuel for the tinfoil types.
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:15 am:
I just heard something on that video which I missed yesterday. 6 hours after the ISP took control of the investigation, they hadn’t yet reviewed the 911 call. Unreal.
- Hunterdon - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:25 am:
I’m glad Mr. and Mrs. Illinois Taxpayer get an opportunity to see for themselves why Monken has not yet been confirmed as ISP Director. He is completely unqualified for the position, and there’s no better example of that than this video.
- Downstate Commissioner - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:26 am:
The police seem more secretive all of the time. Wordslinger’s comment about a homicidal maniac is right on the mark. Sheriff Nichols (ex-ISP) in Logan County did the same thing after the Gee murders in Beason; people were loading guns, gettint them out of gun cabinets and laying them under beds, etc.
All police have to do is tell people that this appears to be personal incident.
One of these days the refusal to reassure the public is going to get an innocent person killed, by some paranoid homeowner.
Quinn needs to look NOW for a new director; this guy is already a failure.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:27 am:
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–6 hours after the ISP took control of the investigation, they hadn’t yet reviewed the 911 call. Unreal.–
Again, I find that very hard to believe. I think the odds are better that Moncken’s just wrong on that point. That’s the starting point of the timeline, for crying out loud.
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:32 am:
Agreed, wordslinger. He’s either not telling the truth or there’s something really wrong with the priorities of the ISP.
- Living in Oklahoma - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:36 am:
= The police seem more secretive all of the time =
= this guy is already a failure. =
=He is completely unqualified for the position =
= A sad plight for a once proud agency. =
= led by another incompetent. Blago gone =
Everyone of these statements made on this post are false, misleading, or just plain ridiculous. A total over reaction.
- Small Town Liberal - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:38 am:
- He’s either not telling the truth or there’s something really wrong with the priorities of the ISP. -
I think, like wordslinger said, that he’s just wrong about this. I don’t think he’s lying, I think he may be incompetent and had a press conference without all of the facts.
- amalia - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:42 am:
@ Wordslinger, based on my discussions with prosecutors, they appreciate when police do not release details. certainly things can be done in a more artful fashion, but law enforcement must simply do it’s job. note that my initial comment is, like this one, not particular to ISP Director Monken, but meant to support police who don’t speak before facts are in.
- ilskeptic - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:48 am:
This wasn’t just Monken. The state police’s default position for years has been “if we know something and you don’t, we win.” The SJ-R did a series of FOIA stories a couple years ago that highlighted the ISP’s complete disregard for the public’s (not just the media’s) right to know basic facts about crimes and criminal prosecution.
Between the ISP and Coroner Susan Boone, I expect to hear later today that Tim Davlin died of a lightning strike.
- Oh, please.... - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:50 am:
Unprofessional handling of a very public crisis by head of ISP…how are we to have confidence in the ability of the State Police leadership to effectively handle a major public safety crisis if this is how he handles a press conference?
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:51 am:
Okie, you can be a highly educated, very successful solider and businessperson, and that does not remotely qualify you to take the lead on a death investigation. Those detectives are highly educated, skilled professionals in their own right.
Out of thousands of police reports I’ve read on incidents that involved a 911 call, they all began: 911 received a call at (time) from (number/unknown number) from (name/male/female/unknown) stating…..”
That’s the beginning of the investigation.
The idea that the ISP had not reviewed the 911 call six hours after being brought into the case is simply not credible (at least I hope not). My guess is Moncken was simply wrong. It was a ridiculous thing to say.
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:52 am:
Now seems like a really good time to reiterate my suggestion that State Senator John Millner be appointed to fill the State Police Director’s slot.
Millner has the perfect credentials: a former suburban police chief and the former president of the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police.
He’s been praised for his common sense and bipartisanship — among other things, he was a sponsor of State Rep. Connie Howard’s expungement legislation to give ex-offenders a second chance.
He would be a huge asset to the Quinn administration, helping to garner bipartisan support for Quinn’s budget. He’s also a firewall against criticism, because unlike Monken (fairly or not), lawmakers trust his judgment.
P.S. While we’re at it, let’s not forget my recommendation that Rep. Sacia be named to head the Dept. of Corrections: a former FBI agent who supported the sale of Thompson prison to the federales.
- Cincinnatus - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 12:05 pm:
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 11:52 am:
“Now seems like a really good time to reiterate my suggestion that State Senator John Millner be appointed to fill the State Police Director’s slot.
Millner has the perfect credentials: a former suburban police chief and the former president of the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police.”
Seconded, although I am not too sure John would want the job. His part-time gig with the GA is a pretty cushy post-retirement job. I can’t imagine he’d want to jump back into the hot seat after sitting in it so many years in Elmhurst.
- Team Sleep - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 12:18 pm:
It’s apparent that two things will come of this. First, Mr. Monken will probably be goaded into stepping down or will be (perhaps) forcefully told by legislators to drop out of the nomination/confirmation process. Second, someone at ISP may very well spill the beans. The SJ-R is two blocks from the ISP headquarters and there are enough connected people at the agency - desk staff and sworn officers - who may want to see Monken and senior staff squirm. I don’t think Monken and his top staff thought this through very well. He looked even sillier when the local paper and national news services leaked inside sources’ suicide revelation.
- for what it's worth - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 12:32 pm:
awful press conference BUT 9-1-1 call data is confidential. enforcement agencies are compelled to get a court order directing the public safety answering point to release the information. how fast ISP did that is a factor in the timeline
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 12:33 pm:
@ Cincy:
There’s nothing fun, cushy, or remotely fulfilling about being a member of the Illinois General Assembly right now. Especially if you’re in the minority.
Plus, with redistricting around the corner, there’s not much job security.
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 12:36 pm:
BTW, I’m not really taking a position on what information Monken should or should not be releasing to the public at this point. Law enforcement considerations should come first.
However, if that had been Millner in front of the microphone yesterday instead of Monken, saying the exact same things, I think there would be little if any criticism.
- Anon - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 12:42 pm:
The State Police never comments on anything or provides any information because of their propensity to screw things up. Good policy.
- DRB - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 12:47 pm:
I’m pretty sure that 911 calls are not private but are public information. Many recordings of 911 calls in Sangamon County have been released over the years. I anticipate this one will be released in due time.
- Newsclown - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 1:00 pm:
Well, I’m all for a free press, but really, the whining after the press conference did not sway me. People are acting like this was a crime on a TV show that is wrapped up and solved in 45 minutes. ISP was dumb to open up for questions they couldn’t answer, because it would impede the investigation process or because they really didn’t know. When they HAVE some answers, of course, they should release that information, as appropriate. But radio and TV reporters should not have had any expectations this early in the case anyhow. If they want to play detective, they should take acting lessons or something.
And ISP should have been more intent on managing a crime scene and investigation than pandering to the press, when they really had nothing to give. Who was that wacky small-town mayor last year, who was grandstanding some crime story? Anybody remember that? This case reminded me of that one. Telling that I really don’t remember much about that case now, except how that mayor injected himself into the story and looked like an idiot.
- Ahoy - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 1:03 pm:
I appologize for my ignorance on this, but does the head of the ISP usually do the press conferences on death investigation? And to what extent is he actually involved in the case? I know this is an unusual case, but it did seem odd that he was the one to do the press conference (outside of the fact that it was odd to have the press conference in the first place).
- Responsa - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 1:26 pm:
Does the ISP not have a media liason or an official spokesperson who is specifically trained and hired to handle the press in cases like this?
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 1:34 pm:
Complete lack of police experience displayed by Monken. Every real police officer knows to not comment on an investigation that is on going. Give the statement, and then walk away. “The matter is pending investigation….” Monken’s lack of experience is very evident in this case!!!
- Just sayin' - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 2:14 pm:
Yellow Dog -
You are probably correct - if that had been Millner none of this would be being said. However - it would never be Millner in that position. He would have released a statement or been prepared to share appropriate information. He knows how to handle an investigation, keep the public comfortable with the steps law enforcement is taking regarding their safety and respect the press, realizing that they have a job to do as well.
- 47th Ward - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 2:18 pm:
This reminds me of the Country Club Hills mayor who embarrassed himself at his own press conference following Chris Kelly’s death. Or like Al Haig: “I’m in charge here.”
Something must compel these guys, like an instinct, that they say to themselves, “here’s a heater case, and therefore I must appear before the cameras to demonstrate my on-top-of-it-ness.”
Moncken and the mayor of CCH leaped into the spotlight and made fools of themselves. Hey guys, it’s not about you. And try to act like you’ve been there before.
To me, this smacks of inexperience combined with bad judgement combined with ego, which is not a healthy mix. I can’t wait to hear about Rich’s interview today.
- nick - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 2:45 pm:
so monken wont give any details but the coroner just said that it was a self inflicted gunshot wound to the chest.
- Been There - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 3:14 pm:
SJR has the following in a story on their web site:
Meanwhile, Staab Funeral Home has announced the arrangements for Davlin’s visitation and funeral.
Visitation is scheduled for 2 to 7 p.m. Friday at Blessed Sacrament Church, 1725 S. Walnut St.
Funeral services will be at the church at 10 a.m. Saturday. Burial will be at Calvary Cemetery, 2001 N. First St.
- Cincinnatus - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 3:18 pm:
- nick - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 2:45 pm:
“so monken wont give any details but the coroner just said that it was a self inflicted gunshot wound to the chest.”
Is that not the proper order of things? Cause of death is the coroners call, not the cops.
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 3:20 pm:
@Just sayin’ - Millner might have made a different call. If it had been my decision, I probably would’ve sent the agency spokesperson instead of the director. But we’ll never know.
- amalia - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 4:44 pm:
what Cincinnatus said!
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 5:05 pm:
Ronbo, you were deleted because you don’t know what you’re talking about. There’s no such prohibition. Try using the Google before posting ignorant “questions” here. Quite simple, really.
- Demoralized - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 5:34 pm:
I agree that all of these press conferences have been a little silly since nobody is answering any questions yet (which I think is fine). The city should have simply said in their conference that the mayor was found dead in his home, the ISP has been called in to investigate due to the potential conflict of interest, and an investigation was underway. Walk away and take no questions. There was no need for the Monken press conference b/c all that needed to be said was said at the city press conference. If he wanted the conference that was stupid. Or, maybe he got bad advice.
I, however, am not going to go all bananas over Monken like I think Rich did. Yeah, the press conference was a screw up but you really think you needed to be so harsh on him? I’ve only heard good things about how he is doing. The ISP insiders are always going to whine b/c they think everthing needs their blessing and that they should annoint a Director. I was completely skeptical at first about Monken. Give him his hearing and let things happen from there.
- Demoralized - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 5:55 pm:
@Christine:
The press conference was unnecessary. However, nobody should be answering any questions about an open case. If you don’t understand that, well then you are the idiot.
Sounds like you are a bit anti-law enforcement. Perhaps you can’t seem to obey the law . . .
- Demoralized - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 5:58 pm:
Sorry . . . I violated the name-calling policy . . .
- Retired ISP - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 6:47 pm:
Must be a high ranking insider ISP person there?
- retired popo - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 8:17 pm:
Monken has not been educated yet in police work. When asked if Susan Boone was going to do the autopsy herself he said he didn’t know if she was or going to have someone else do it! Wow, an elected official doing medical investigation? He doesn’t even know you must be a forensic pathologist (doctor) to “do” autopsy work. He needs to watch more CSI to catch up
- Demoralized - Wednesday, Dec 15, 10 @ 9:43 pm:
@Retired ISP:
I have nothing to do with the ISP nor have I ever had anything to do with it. You apparently are just another ISP whiner who thinks that you MUST be law enforcement to work at the agency. I work at a specialized agency in a high administrative position (granted it is finance) and I have never had any experience in that field. I don’t need it to do my job. I have served in manay positions over many years where this was the case and all higher ups have found my work above average. You police officers are something else. You stick with the police work and let the administrators do their work.
- SM - Thursday, Dec 16, 10 @ 7:55 am:
- Demoralized
Perhaps you’d like to share what qualifications the 29 year old Mr. Monken has that would qualify him as an “administrator” with the second largest police dept in the state?
- Retired ISP - Thursday, Dec 16, 10 @ 8:42 am:
To Demoralized………….
@Retired ISP:
I have nothing to do with the ISP nor have I ever had anything to do with it. You apparently are just another ISP whiner who thinks that you MUST be law enforcement to work at the agency. I work at a specialized agency in a high administrative position (granted it is finance) and I have never had any experience in that field. I don’t need it to do my job. I have served in manay positions over many years where this was the case and all higher ups have found my work above average. You police officers are something else. You stick with the police work and let the administrators do their work.
No….not a whiner….I would just like to see the ISP return to what was a great agency in the not to distant past. The ISP is a mere shell of a full service police agency if compared to the early 90’s. It is fun by managers and bosses; not leaders and there is a difference.
- Christine Kaplan - Thursday, Dec 16, 10 @ 8:57 am:
Nope I am not, no I do not hate law enforcement, but then again I do not hide behind some online nick either. You know my name, how about sharing yours or are you too scared?
- Secret Square - Thursday, Dec 16, 10 @ 9:33 am:
“Cheap Chanel bags”? Spam ads invading Cap Fax Blog? Yet another sign of the apocalypse
- Larry Mullholland - Thursday, Dec 16, 10 @ 10:34 am:
My heart is filled with sadness. Such a tragic loss for all who knew Tim Davlin. If you knew the Mayor, whether or not you agreed or disagreed with his leadership, he was good for Springfield and a joy to be near. He was good to his friends. Only time and more information can help us to understand the mounting issues he faced. Some issues will likely never be made public. He will be dearly missed my many. Thoughts and prayers are with his family & friends.
Regarding ISP, that press conference was absurd and an insult. Monken released less information than had already been released and reported. What ISP did was create suspicion and concern when it was just not needed. It was clear to those who knew what happened or perhaps those who know the law; Search warrants are needed when it is self inflicted……only in homicides or suspicious criminal activity do we not need a search warrant. Again the ISP press conference was just plain silly.