Today’s interesting little factoid
Monday, May 5, 2014 - Posted by Rich Miller
* From the Belleville News Democrat…
[The Cook County Assessor’s] office says [Gov. Pat Quinn] has appealed his assessment four times in the past decade but lost each one because of the “property’s uniformity with comparable properties.”
- Anon. - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 3:57 pm:
I hear there’s a guy named Madigan who is pretty good at property tax law. Shoulda hired him!
- OneMan - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 3:58 pm:
Wow…
Wonder how successful he has been. Wonder if he has hired anyone to help? Isn’t appealing 40% of the time something the 1% do?
- Oswego Willy - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 4:00 pm:
Well, there goes the “after Governor” tax appealing gig!
People already know how to lose those cases, lol.
To his defense, the Comps are tough in some areas. Your thoughts may be right, but with no Comp to bade that on, it can be a house of cards…
- zatoichi - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 4:03 pm:
Worth giving it a shot.
- Six Degrees of Separation - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 4:05 pm:
So much for clout!
- wordslinger - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 4:10 pm:
LOL, it might be refreshing to some that Quinn can’t clout a tax break.
Then check out this ingrate Bernie wrote about the other day.
Thanks to Quinn, he runs neighborhood casinos, banks millions on state leases, and still wants to “shake it up” with Rauner.
Makes you wonder… “why?”
Can’t make this stuff up.
http://www.sj-r.com/article/20140501/OPINION/140509978/10610/OPINION
- Upon Further Review - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 4:10 pm:
Quinn used to serve on the Cook County Board of Appeals (now renamed the Board of Review) that handles property tax appeals.
While in private practice (i.e. out of political office for a few years after losing a couple of primary elections), Quinn used to solicit law clients by billing himself as a property tax appeals specialist!
- Almost the Weekend - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 4:11 pm:
Would not be surprised if the PQ campaign passed this along, to show his average joe status to IL Voters.
Also, could be a nice prelude to Rauner’s property taxes in his two IL homes, and transition into the Payton Prep Clouter as OW called him before the Primary.
- Ron Burgundy - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 4:13 pm:
That’s a horrible record, considering that was how he made a living in private practice and as a board member prior to graduating to the state trough. Even wrote a book/pamphlet on the subject as I recall.
- OneMan - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 4:34 pm:
More interesting to see that his house is worth a bit more than mine (not a big deal) but I pay double the property taxes he does.
- Wensicia - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 5:10 pm:
Why is there an ad for HB 4075 over the Capitol Fax banner at the top of this page?
- OneMan - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 5:13 pm:
Because Oscar has to eat man….
- Oswego Willy - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 5:22 pm:
===Also, could be a nice prelude to Rauner’s property taxes in his two IL homes, and transition into the Payton Prep Clouter as OW called him before the Primary.===
The difference for Rauner this go; Quinn is going to hammer Rauner, on TV, and have the money to allegedly stay on TV, and build a Ground Game too.
To the Post,
If you find out you lost on Comps once, losing on Comps continually with the same result… nothing learned on his property(?)
- JoeInPeoria - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 5:33 pm:
My house is worth almost exactly the same as Quinn’s, but we pay $4,000 in property taxes!!!
I would like to see more examples in the press of this unequal treatment on property taxes in Chicago vs. the rest of Illinois.
- Steve - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 6:11 pm:
Pat didn’t want to pay his fair share towards “investments” in crappy public schools and roads with pot holes built by expensive union labor. Imagine that. No word yet on whether Pat Quinn gets personal advice from Rick Perry.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 6:15 pm:
- Steve -,
Rauner was actually awarded multiple houses ===didn’t want to pay his fair share towards “investments” in crappy public schools and roads with pot holes built by expensive union labor. Imagine that.===
Get over yourself. Maybe your house is made of glass?
You have a right to appeal, everyone does.
Everyone.
- Belle - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 6:23 pm:
He used to do a pretty good job for us.
- Just The Way It Is One - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 6:36 pm:
And despite this, nevertheless, Pat Quinn is the AUTHOR of “THE BOOK” on the very Subject himself on “How to Appeal Your Property Taxes Without a Lawyer,” which he wrote and distributed all over the place in the Late 1980’s, which has no doubt saved thousands of OTHER average Homeowners in Illinois Million$ of dollars over the years…!
In fact, for at least a couple of years before he was elected Illinois Treasurer in 1990, the Governor as a Community Activist, used to run all OVER Chicago and the Suburbs conducting FREE Seminars to teach Folks 1ST-HAND how to go about doing just THAT! It helped him make even a BIGGer Name for himself at the time, and some attributed it as a key factor in helping him win the Dem. Nomination over the then-Dem.Party-endorsed Candidate, Peg Breslin, and, by November, his 1st STATE-Wide, Elected Post over Greg Baise that year…!
- VanillaMan - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 6:57 pm:
Nice to know that he doesn’t know what he is doing outside the Office anymore than he knows what he is doing inside the Office.
- Anon - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 7:01 pm:
== My taxes are double Quinn’s ==
That’s because Chicagoans pay the lowest property taxes in the state. They just don’t realize how good they have it.
- a drop in - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 7:03 pm:
Maybe he wanted to practice in case he needs a new job next year…..{snark}
- Forrest Gump - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 7:35 pm:
Mama says “Inept is as inept does.” They say that you have to know someone up in Chicago in order to “make things go away”. Maybe he just doesn’t know anyone that is high enough up on the Chicago political ladder to “help him”? Maybe if he knew Mayor Rahm or one of the Daley family members things might have turned out differently.
- OVERSIGHT - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 8:11 pm:
He should’ve sold that house and moved into the Governors Mansion! I don’t think he would have to contest the taxes there!
…and this Guy is running the State!
- wordslinger - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 9:38 pm:
Mama says “Inept is as inept does.” They say that you have to know someone up in Chicago in order to –”Maybe he just doesn’t know anyone that is high enough up on the Chicago political ladder tomake things go away”. Maybe he just doesn’t know anyone that is high enough up on the Chicago political ladder to “help him”? Maybe if he knew Mayor Rahm or one of the Daley family members things might have turned out differently.–
Maybe it’s smart politics for a populist governor to get stuck with property tax bills like a regular schlump.
You guys are cute (that’s you, VMan). Quinn’s inept because he doesn’t use the clout of his office for personal gain. You reformers you.
You think a governor couldn’t use the power of the office to get a property tax reduction? It would be incredibly stupid to do so, but it could be done.
- Michelle Flaherty - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 9:50 pm:
Brings new meaning to: Don’t quit your day job.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 9:57 pm:
- wordslinger -, you’re on It, no surprise.
Quinn has every right to appeal. Saying Quinn gas no right is the first mistake some are making.
I love the irony of Quinn losing, his past, and losing consistently on the same point.
The point that Quinn could…in theory… “easily” get a reduction through a possible “clout” call but didn’t, that speaks to Character. Plain and simple.
I enjoy that Quinn tried, failed, and that was it.
Having multiple houses with successful exemptions, as another example, is a lack of Character move.
The irony is my humor point, not the lack of success included.
- RNUG - Monday, May 5, 14 @ 10:29 pm:
Having been through the appeal process a number of times myself, I can relate. Sometimes you have what you think is a great case and you lose. Other times you have a weak case and you win. You just never know what will fly.
My favorite one was appealing the taxes on a old house I had just bought even though the county set the assessment at the purchase price. I actually won that appeal, claiming I didn’t believe the house was worth what I had to pay for it!
- VanillaMan - Tuesday, May 6, 14 @ 7:20 am:
Having multiple houses with successful exemptions, as another example, is a lack of Character move.
Exemptions are not a sign of a lack of character. If Rauner had no character, what would you assassinate everyday?
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, May 6, 14 @ 7:26 am:
===Exemptions are not a sign of a lack of character. If Rauner had no character, what would you assassinate everyday?===
The designated hitter. You’re a ball player, get up there and hit!
Yeah, you lack character when you can read you get one house to get that exemption, and you, by “happenstance” claim multiple homes. What, Rauner forgot how many homes he had, and which house is his residence?
Or he is a “.01%”er scamming the system, lacking character to just take one like everyone else.
“Right? Exactly right.”
- SAP - Tuesday, May 6, 14 @ 8:49 am:
Quinn’s 4 appeals on his own home is a pretty small sample size if you are trying to determine his overall success in appealing prop tax assessments. The results he got for his clients would tell us whether he knows what he is doing.