80 Comments - Deep South - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 9:57 am: Will there be a travel ban to Dallas? - PMcP - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 9:58 am: Breaking News: Republican Gov. candidate panders to fear, disregards science… - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:00 am: Based on which experts? The 94% of the American people who support it. - Anon - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:00 am: I support Rauner, but I dont see this as an effective message. - anon - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:01 am: It doesn’t matter that the governor couldn’t impose such a ban. It polls off the charts. Just like a freeze on property taxes that ain’t gonna happen either. - Under Further Review - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:01 am: But Quinn has spent so much time with the POTUS, VPOTUS and FLOTUS lately… surely, he could have raised his concerns about Ebola and travel precautions during his face time with these folks. I mean the White House takes Quinn seriously, don’t they? - OneMan - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:01 am: Yeah because Quinn’s quarantine order isn’t pandering at all, that is why all of two other states are doing it… As for a candidate complaining about someone else not doing something they can’t do… Isn’t that a decent % of all political ads and comments? - Downstate GOP Faithless - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:01 am: …and then creationism became the educational norm… - admin - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:02 am: Yes and because the media advances his BS without counterpoint. - Amalia - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:02 am: I can see it now, Rauner appoints Sanguinetti to deal with ebola because she is so reasonable and knowledgable about science…wanting to criminalize abortion. - RNUG - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:06 am: Gee, does Rauner think executive orders are automatically legal and enforceable? - Demoralized - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:06 am: ==The 94% of the American people who support it.== Yeah. We should make public health decisions on polls. That’s how I want my health protected. - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:06 am: Right. Lump everyone into the anti-science camp. If you do however, you’d find yourself all alone. And probably quarantined. - Bogey Golfer - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:06 am: What to both candidates have to say about ISIS? - Carl Nyberg - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:06 am: Does Rauner not know that the federal government controls restrictions on entering the country? The newspapers embraced Rauner and he’s not serious about issues. He’s not serious about his budget. He’s not serious about this travel restriction. - PMcP - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:07 am: @OneMan Fair point. I guess I see Quinn has to look like he’s doing something since he’s in charge and people are freaking out over nothing rather than the non-sense of ‘one-ups-manship’ that Rauner is playing here. - Tito Green - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:08 am: Can’t wait to see the fear mongering, panic stirring black and white Rauner ads that will come out of this. Quinn = Making your organs dissolve. - admin - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:08 am: Quinn should slam Rauner on his complete stupidity and ignorance since it is federal issue. - Carl Nyberg - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:09 am: If Rauner wants to complain about travel restrictions, he could criticize Obama. Does Rauner feel strongly enough about his pandering that he’s willing to go after Obama? - Soccermom - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:12 am: Rauner’s internals must be dissolving… - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:12 am: Yeah. We should make public health decisions on polls. That’s how I want my health protected. Ever heard about Obamacare? Its been around a couple of years now. - Arthur Andersen - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:13 am: “Appoints Sanguinetti as his Ebola czar” Why not? She has as much or more medical experience than Al Gore’s campaign manager, presently leading the national response. - LincolnLounger - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:13 am: Maybe this is a little payback for those phony “advisory referenda” and constitutional amendments that also are meaningless. - Jose Abreu's next homer - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:14 am: Can we get the candidates to discuss the CTA random bag checkpoint(s) that are going up? Sounds very unconstitutional. - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:14 am: Quinn should slam Rauner on his complete stupidity and ignorance since it is federal issue. No. Better yet. Be a governor and explain how he is handling the issue in cooperation with the Federal Government. Remind voters how much he understands the issues involved. No slamming needed. No need to even mention Rauner. - Lil Squeezy - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:15 am: Land of the Free, Home of the SCARED!!!!! What a bunch of “babies” we have become. - PublicServant - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:16 am: I’ll see your travel ban and adamantly demand that our military destroy all runways in the Ebola-stricken countries in Africa. - Irwin Mainway - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:23 am: Even though it makes no sense to demand a Governor impose Federal restrictions, the intent is clear by Rauner: those suffering, sick and dying in Africa - tough luck, too bad, the heroes trying to help will be stigmatized and treated like criminals upon return. - Wordslinger - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:26 am: You’d think a tough talker like this would be able to handle more than three questions from the press on a daily basis. - ZC - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:26 am: It’s fear, pandering and ignorance. Sorry VanillaMan. It is however an interesting test of who in our politics passes the “leadership in crisis test.” Obama passes. Andrew Cuomo and Chris Christie appear to fail. And so now does Bruce Rauner. One more reason not to elect him governor. - PublicServant - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:27 am: Word, you have to elect it to see what’s in it. - walker - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:27 am: This will be an effective message for about two more weeks, and then the general public will come to their senses. But Election Day will have come and gone. The timing is bad for rational decisions. Whatever. Could have been an earthquake, bombing, hurricane, pipeline explosion, N. Korea. Whatever frightens the public most, when exploited and exaggerated by campaigns and newscasters. - Lil Squeezy - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:27 am: 3 countries with a population of 20 million people have 4,000 deaths and people are terrified. The last school shooting killed more people in America than Ebola has. Don’t send your children to school, its not safe!!!! Only in America. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:28 am: ==Be a governor and explain how he is handling the issue== He has explained it. Publicly. Multiple times. - Judgment Day - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:30 am: “I’ll see your travel ban and adamantly demand that our military destroy all runways in the Ebola-stricken countries in Africa.” ————– ATC = Air Traffic Control = Restricted controlled airspace. You might want to look into that concept before starting to destroy all the runways. Besides, we would need those runways for moving US military and civilian aid/medical workers in and out of countries. Maybe first family can give up a few of their vacations ‘perks’ using federal government transportation (Read USAF) that we can use instead to provide flight services in and out of this ‘restricted airspace’. Can’t do that - somebody wouldn’t get his 36 holes in…. - Brookport Brandon - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:30 am: Despicable. Desperate. This is bottom of the barrel fear mongering at its worst. I challenge Raunerbots to produce one credible public health or safety expert who supports a travel ban. Not to mention states have no authority on this. - Finally Out (formerly Ready to Get Out) - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:31 am: Every day, Rauner reinforces my decision to vote for Quinn. - regular democrat - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:35 am: Quinn was smart and beat Rauner to the punch on the issue which puts Quinn at odds with the white house but makes him look like a leader for a change. Must have caught Rauner off guard - a drop in - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:38 am: “I’ll see your travel ban and adamantly demand that our military destroy all runways in the Ebola-stricken countries in Africa.” Don’t need the military. Just send Richard M. over there. - MrJM - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:42 am: “The 94% of the American people who support it.” I’m old enough to remember when this sort of panicked mob mentality was the basis for anti-scientific arguments for quarantining and ostracizing people with HIV/AIDS. I also remember how much that cowardice and stupidity hampered the fight against the disease. It was pitifully shameful then, it’s inexcusably shameful now. – MrJM - JS Mill - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:44 am: “That’s a federal issue”- Sorry Rich, in his head (Rauner) it is not a Federal issue because he believes the governor rules by dictate, hence his position on many issues. - Yankee Dooder - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:45 am: Absolutely pathetic. Quinn should stand his ground. People will see this for what it is. - hisgirlfriday - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:46 am: Sometimes I wonder if Rauner wears a bracelet that says “W W R B D?” So many Blago flashbacks. - Yankee Dooder - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:50 am: As important - I suspect every professional reporter covering this will see it for what it is. Irrational pandering based on irrational fear. A travel ban would harm our national security and the progress of the global fight on a horrible disease. Senator Kirk should be ashamed. - JS Mill - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:50 am: Bruce Rauner- “I demand that the governor mobilize the Illinois National Guard and attack Texas and New York to stop the spread of Ebola.” Now let’s see if Quinn can to that! - Judgment Day - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:50 am: “Despicable. Desperate. This is bottom of the barrel fear mongering at its worst. I challenge Raunerbots to produce one credible public health or safety expert who supports a travel ban.” ————– Points you might want to seriously consider: 1) CDC just substantially revised their guidelines just last night. We’re not talking ‘tweaks’, either. Another day, another set of CDC revisions. 2) All the CDC guidelines are ‘temperature’ based. There’s very credible evidence from the current outbreaks in Africa that 13-15% of the individuals with Ebola do not present with fever. Why? Who Knows? 3) “Thirty (US) soldiers until recently stationed in West Africa will be quarantined in Italy when they arrive Wednesday after leaving the Ebola-stricken region this morning.” CNN report this AM. Oops - “Not ‘Quarantined’, just ‘Controlled Monitoring’. Wait, there’s a difference? 4) “Australia temporarily stops issuing visas to people from countries affected by Ebola, in a bid to stop the virus from entering the country.” BBC, this morning. Seems like all these other institutions/places are pandering to unreasonable fears..or not…… - A guy... - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 10:55 am: Exaggeration and hyperbole are the tactics of the day- all the way around. It’s what expensive campaigns do. Everyone is screaming at the top of their lungs to get you to notice now. Seniors are being abused, Foster kids abused, babies…yep abused. Immigrants, healthworkers, yep, abused. It’s crazy frenzy all the way around and too bad and too sad. On the Ebola issue. The President, the Governor and the whole Democratic party at the moment, seem stymied, disillusioned, waffly, confused and incapable of policy making. That’s a bad place to be when the final decision making process is going on. They just look overwhelmed and underprepared. - ZC - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 11:02 am: Judgment Day (great name for the post btw), >> All the CDC guidelines are ‘temperature’ based. There’s very credible evidence from the current outbreaks in Africa that 13-15% of the individuals with Ebola do not present with fever. Why? Who Knows? I did some research here and this appears to be true, or at least reasonably well supported. What -doesn’t- appear to be supported however yet is that people infected but not yet running fevers pose any serious danger or risk of infection to the public. So when their temperature does start going up, then they report themselves like that doc did in New York recently. If you are hinting that Ebola Mary might be soon walking the streets of New York, let’s put a hold on that one right now. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 11:05 am: ==On the Ebola issue. The President, the Governor and the whole Democratic party at the moment, seem stymied, disillusioned, waffly, confused and incapable of policy making.== *sigh* The Governor came out with a pretty coherent policy on this. And if you want confusion you only need to look to REPUBLICAN Chris Christie for that as far as Ebola is concerned. Have you gotten that partisan A guy that you can’t even be honest in a discussion like this? Hopefully you’ll come back to reality when this election is over. - Anonymost - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 11:07 am: One guy: “On the Ebola issue. The President, the Governor and the whole Democratic party at the moment, seem stymied, disillusioned, waffly, confused and incapable of policy making.” Yeah, Gov. Chris Christie (Chair of the Republican Governors Association), sure looks like a calm, sure-footed, coherent Ebola policy-maker. Hah! - Why guy - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 11:11 am: This whole Ebola hysteria is really ridiculous and is being way over exploited by the media.There are 300plus million people in this country and 5 cases of Ebola reported with one death attributed to it. This is one of many problems with 24 hour news programming .This is an issue that really isn’t . Unfortunately we have two candidates who will say anything and do anything to get their name above the fold. Let’s put a ban on ghosts,zombies,vampires and candidates for Gov. Quarantine all of them. - Wordslinger - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 11:12 am: What’s that Ebola death count in the United States up to now? One. Hopefully this freak show will end Nov. 5 and those huckleberries who are so inclined can move on to the next thing the TV will tell them to be terrified about. - Judgment Day - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 11:19 am: “What -doesn’t- appear to be supported however yet is that people infected but not yet running fevers pose any serious danger or risk of infection to the public. So when their temperature does start going up, then they report themselves like that doc did in New York recently. If you are hinting that Ebola Mary might be soon walking the streets of New York, let’s put a hold on that one right now.” ————————- Not saying that, because we don’t know that. Let’s certainly hope not! But, just fyi, several of those Ebola cases in Africa never did present with a fever up to the point where they died. There’s just so much we don’t know, and so far, if you are keeping score, we’re 2-1-? Problem is, ‘Patient 5′ is generally seen as one of those pandemic ‘trip wires’. Let’s hope we don’t see ‘Patient 5′ for a while. We need the time. - ZC - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 11:20 am: Sorry just to keep going here Judgment Day 10:50, to show I seriously did consider all your points: >> 1) CDC just substantially revised their guidelines just last night. We’re not talking ‘tweaks’, either. Another day, another set of CDC revisions. … so what? What were the revisions? Oh my gosh, CDC is continuing to monitor the outbreak and update its recommendations. I guess we can just do whatever we want to, no matter what the actual medical professionals are currently saying. >> 3) “Thirty (US) soldiers until recently stationed in West Africa will be quarantined in Italy when they arrive Wednesday after leaving the Ebola-stricken region this morning.” CNN report this AM. Oops - “Not ‘Quarantined’, just ‘Controlled Monitoring’. Wait, there’s a difference? One difference that comes to mind is a U.S. soldier might be a bit less trained at recognizing his symptoms early than a medical professional would be. >> 4) “Australia temporarily stops issuing visas to people from countries affected by Ebola, in a bid to stop the virus from entering the country.” Great so countries are panicking. That’s justification to panic more? You might as well have said governors in NY and in NJ are putting in quarantines. So what? The point is they’re overreacting. - Norseman - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 11:22 am: Does Raunervich’s pander cancel out Quinn’s pander? Who cares. I don’t see either candidate’s pander will add votes. - Judgment Day - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 11:24 am: “…5 cases of Ebola reported…” —————- Four. The case of the NBC cameraman was he had diagnosed Ebola before coming into the US for treatment. It might seem like 5, but for epidemiology purposes, it’s four. It’s kind of like using the ‘Home Diagnosed’ marker, if you will… - Judgment Day - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 11:53 am: “One difference that comes to mind is a U.S. soldier might be a bit less trained at recognizing his symptoms early than a medical professional would be.” —————- Again, are you serious? Who were the clowns (including a so-called medical professional) from the NBC news team who decided to go out for takeout while they had been exposed and don’t forget the nice long walk they took when they were supposed to be under quarantine. Oh, and then we have our NY patient who had a whole list of things he did with a ‘low grade’ fever. Certainly recognized those symptoms early, didn’t they? Making a career of dodging bullets does not tend to make for a long fruitful career….. - A guy... - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 11:54 am: ===Have you gotten that partisan A guy that you can’t even be honest in a discussion like this? Hopefully you’ll come back to reality when this election is over.==== No Demo. I have no idea why you feel like this is not honest. From the CDC/NIH on down, this has been a cluster****. We’ve been given several explanations of how this is spread, what to do, who’s in charge, it’s contained, oops it’s not, now it is, quarantine involuntarily, now voluntarily, for what length of time…etc. It just goes on and on. There’s no clarity to any of these policies that have lasted more than 24 hours. It polls off the charts because people are fascinated and confused and yes, scared. Rational or not, there’s no definitive leadership on this from the top down and it shows. One side says don’t panic (which will always launch some panic). The other says, “error on the side of caution”. The voters are deciding which side to believe. The side that’s saying “don’t panic” are regularly panic merchants. It’s hard to believe them. Before you point it out, the GOP is just as guilty of panic marketing. The difference is their message this time- better safe than sorry. That’s not partisan, it’s practical in the eyes of a lot of people. - Nony - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 12:20 pm: Amalia Obama’s “ebola czar” is a political guy with no medical experience, while you’re playing with counterfactuals, that actually happened - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 12:21 pm: We are seeing the Federal Government acting like the Keystone Cops and all you people keep saying is, “look - it is only one robber!” Exactly. No reason we should be seeing such incompetence with only a handful of patients. - Nony - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 12:27 pm: Admin: “Quinn should slam Rauner on his complete stupidity and ignorance since it is federal issue.” And Quinn falsely claiming Rauner is going to take away gay marriage isn’t the same thing? - 47th Ward - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 12:29 pm: Too bad the GOP is standing behind its fillibuster of the U.S. Surgeon General. We could really use a federal official to lead a coordinated medical response to this threat. Also, if ebola has so many people wetting the bed, how come deaths from gunshotebola don’t cause a similar reaction? Talk about a public health problem… - Wordslinger - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 12:33 pm: VMan, A Guy, what other irrational things are you scared of all the time? - Demoralized - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 12:41 pm: Whatever you say @A guy. You made it partisan. Not me. You are the one that laid it at the Democrats feet. Not me. So if you can’t own your partisanship then that’s your problem. More dishonesty from you. And Quinn came out with a plan and clearly articulated it. It was measured. I think it made people feel better. I’m all for quarantines if they are implemented smartly. Quinn’s plan seems to be a rational plan. - Yankee Dooder - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 12:46 pm: 2 minutes worth watching: http://www.vox.com/2014/10/28/7079533/ebola-travel-ban-bad-idea-video - A guy... - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 12:51 pm: Demo, play nice now. I own that I’m a Republican. A Precinct Caption for 25 years. In DuPage, we hold the lofty title of Committeemen, but it confuses the Cook folks where the Committeeman is in charge of the whole ward/township and appoints PCs. We’re elected by the precinct voters. So, yes I’m a mostly partisan GOPer. Honest enough? I’m supporting Rauner. Started favoring Rutherford in the primary, moved to Dillard, then to Rauner, long before the primary election. I’m a Rauner supporter. Or whatever is vogue today here; ite, baut, whatever. The Dems are all over the place on this Ebola issue. I complimented the Gov yesterday on taking a position. His party is letting him down on this above him. It’s making all of them look silly. I even agreed an involuntary, but home, quarantine was a rational and compassionate position. If that’s too partisan, I’m just not going to score with you brother. ===Wordslinger - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 12:33 pm: VMan, A Guy, what other irrational things are you scared of all the time?=== Clowns, Slinger, Clowns. And far too many of them have been running our government. I bet nuttin’ scares you Wally. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 12:59 pm: ==So, yes I’m a mostly partisan GOPer.== You can be partisan and honest at the same time. Maybe that’s an oxymoron today. Don’t know. ==The Dems are all over the place on this Ebola issue. == See, this is what bothers me. Everybody is all over the place on this issue. Nobody knows which way is up. But of course it’s only the Democrats in your world. That’s what I’m talking about when I speak of honesty, my friend. You show far too little of it lately. Ebola ain’t partisan. And you shouldn’t make it that way. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 1:04 pm: A guy - By the way, I’d have been with you on Rauner if he had managed to convince me he had some inkling about the state budget and state finances and had a coherent plan to deal with it. He failed. He’s still got a week. Maybe he’ll surprise me. I doubt it though. Don’t know how, or even if I’ll vote for a gubernatorial candidate. I just know it won’t be Rauner. Not because he’s a Republican. Because he’s not earned it. I wanted a candidate other than Quinn. I really did. - Soccermom - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 1:04 pm: What is Rauner’s position on great white sharks hiding in swimming pools? Because I am really against that… - Pot calling kettle - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 1:13 pm: The Governor should ban flights into Illinois from all countries and states where there have been documented cases of Ebola. That would stop flights from Texas, New York, and Spain. I can find no direct flights to Chicago from Africa. (There seems to have been one from Senegal that was initiated in 2007, but I think it was discontinued.) - G'Kar - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 1:34 pm: Even more of a concern, Socermom, what is Rauner’s position on AsianCarpnado hitting Peoria? - A guy... - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 1:55 pm: Demo, no harm brother. The Dems are in charge at the Federal level and they’re uber in charge at the state and Chicago level. They’re the policy makers. Pat’s been hurt badly by the dancing going on above his head on Ebola and other issues. That’s the guy, his wife, and his veep, he’s chosen to be his muscle in this race. I’m mostly partisan. Not as much as some of my brethren would like, but mostly. I make every attempt to be honest. I don’t mislead on purpose. Slinger can tell you, I just don’t know what I’m talking about-lol. Except when I do. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 2:08 pm: ==I just don’t know what I’m talking about== Neither do I. At least that’s what my wife tells me. Oh, and my kids too. - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 2:28 pm: VMan, A Guy, what other irrational things are you scared of all the time? I’d say “bite me”, but you aren’t probably wearing your teeth this week. - Wordslinger - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 3:03 pm: VMan, I’m 51 and have worked in the private sector all my life. I know you think seniors should be taxed to pay for your state pension, but let me ask you something: What would you say, you do here all day, on the taxpayer dime? - A guy... - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 3:49 pm: BTW, that explains something. Being 51 in Oak Park is tough. Too old for the bistros and too young for the brunch circuit at the parishes. Bet you gotta go to Forest Park to let it loose, dontcha? - walker - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 4:47 pm: A little madness infects campaign staffs, and commenters apparently, the last week of any campaign. - A guy... - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 5:21 pm: Very true Walk, very true. - redleg - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 6:41 pm: Personally I’m sick of politics over this issue. As a war vet, I’ve never been comfortable with politicians guarding my life and for that matter anyone else’s. It’s not about fear - it’s about common sense. - Just Me - Tuesday, Oct 28, 14 @ 7:01 pm: yeah, because the Democrats in Illinois have NEVER used federal issues in their state campaigns. That would be unheard of and wrong. (snark) Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.