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This Is Illinois
Wednesday, Mar 23, 2016 - Posted by Rich Miller
Legislators from Dunkin’s and McCann’s respective caucuses stayed silent not out of fear of angering their party bosses, but because they genuinely don’t like or respect either man. Scott is absolutely correct. We ended up with a massive, multi million dollar proxy war centered around two of the most flawed legislators at the Statehouse. Lovely. * Related…
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- Norseman - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 3:43 pm:
We’ll see how popular the caucuses are after Rauner finishes trashing the state.
- Eugene - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 3:48 pm:
And yet, McCann won and Dunkin lost, even though McCann was outspent 3-1. Plus, in both cases the pro-Rauner candidate lost. Gee, Scott, what do you make of that?
- Macbeth - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 3:49 pm:
Hey man — so long as McCann votes for the AFSCME override, he’s ok in my book. Dunkin won’t — but he’s done. Stick a fork in Dunkin.
- Macbeth - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 3:51 pm:
BTW — what post is Dunkin gonna get from Rauner? That’s all that matters. Something to drive Madigan crazy?
- A guy - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 3:52 pm:
Plenty of “ick” to go around with these two. No doubt there.
- Mama - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 3:55 pm:
I would like to know why they don’t like them.
- Wensicia - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 4:03 pm:
A lot of money spent to wallow in the mud.
- Qui Tam - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 4:04 pm:
But our 2-party system is worth it. /s
- Honeybear - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 4:06 pm:
It’s Ragnarok, nobody wins.
- RNUG - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 4:29 pm:
== I would like to know why they don’t like them. ==
In McCann’s case, it’s a number of things. He broke his word on a specific leadership vote (not the union arbitration one) without telling the GOP leader first and it’s because he isn’t necessarily “one of the boys”.
- 47th Ward - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 4:30 pm:
The funny thing is, if the mileage thing is really bad, Benton could wind up in that Senate seat before November. And Dunkin can stay in his House seat until January. So even though the voters sent a strong message last week, nothing is going to change overnight, if at all.
- State worker - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 4:52 pm:
The Republicans are too scared to speak up about anything.
- Ghost - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 4:52 pm:
True, but the local GOP were pretty vocal here about supporting McCann, especially after the gov president day stunt.
- RNUG - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 5:15 pm:
-47th-
Sam would still be on the ballot and re-elected in November.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 5:17 pm:
The Sangamon County GOP endorsed McCann, correct?
That showed some guts, given that the governor endorsed the other guy.
- 47th Ward - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 5:19 pm:
I hope that’s true RNUG. But if he’s broken any laws with regard to the mileage thing, all bets are off.
Same goes for Mautino. I don’t believe either one did anything to warrant criminal charges, but if they did, then the stuff is going to rightfully hit the fan.
- RNUG - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 5:22 pm:
-47th-
It’s not like he tried to sell a US Senate seat …
- 47th Ward - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 5:23 pm:
Zing!
- RNUG - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 5:25 pm:
== The Sangamon County GOP endorsed McCann, correct? ==
Means they know the district and both candidates better than the Gov …
- Norseman - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 5:29 pm:
=== The Sangamon County GOP endorsed McCann, correct?
That showed some guts, given that the governor endorsed the other guy. ===
Word, yes they did. It raised my poor opinion of them a smidgen for the courage to do the endorsement. However, they have otherwise been quite compliant in appointing Rauner puppets for other seats. Given Rich’s recent revelation that Sam was viewed as “a god” in the district, I might cynically view the endorsement as a bandwagon move to try and assuage some of the anger from GOP state workers.
- whatev - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 5:41 pm:
More revisionist history from sore loser bruce rauner and Illinois policy institute’s faux journalist. Dunkin is despised. McCann represents his district. That’s why Mccann won and Dunkin lost. Childish Gov. Rauner.
- Norseman - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 6:04 pm:
Sorry off-post comment:
RNUG, get some rest tonight. We’ll need you to be in fine reading form tomorrow when the Chic Pension reduction ruling comes down.
- Apple Picker - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 6:15 pm:
Sen. McCann would have been targeted regardless of his vote on the AFSCME strike bill. Two years ago he considered running as a spoiler in the governor’s race and then ham handedly botched a hit on his own leadership. He’s been in the penalty box ever since. The vote with AFSCME was a hail mary to get the unions to save him from himself. Elevating it to a proxy circus made it an expensive side show but didn’t really do much to change the underlying issues at hand.
The AFSCME vote was nothing more than him selling his political soul to save his political life. He had to make a very public show of allegiance to get a cut of union members paychecks to save his neck.
- whatev - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 6:30 pm:
More sour grapes. Gov. Rauner must be really upset.
- PublicServant - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 6:30 pm:
Norseman, it’s almost a slam dunk that it’s struck down. There’s no opportunity to say “No thanks, I’d prefer that the existing contract remain unchanged.”, and since there isn’t that option, it’s a unilateral change to a contract without the opportunity to accept/reject the proposed change, and therefore invalid.
- LizPhairTax - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 6:38 pm:
47th,
Wojicki Jimenez has put in her 5 months. She DESERVES that senate seat!
- RNUG - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 6:59 pm:
-Norseman-,
I’ll probably be under the hood of a Honda replacing a head gasket, so don’t expect any quick answers tomorrow.
- Been There - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 7:40 pm:
===SPRINGFIELD — Imagine a place where the allies of a free-market Republican governor spend millions of dollars to help a big-spending Democrat, and where government labor unions contribute a fortune to aid a self-described “Tea Party” Republican.====
I would have never imagined I would read a story by Scott and actually agree almost 100% with him. But it just happened
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 9:04 pm:
To the Post,
For me?
This is the Raunerite Referendum framing.
It doesn’t matter who candidates are…
Good. Bad. Awful. Unlikeable. Beloved. Respected. Admired.
The voters are going to be asked.
“Are you with the Rauner candidate, or not?”
Labor, Students, Homeowners, Business Owners, Seniors, Farmers, “She-Caw-Go”, “Downstate” (Anywhere outside “She-Caw-Go)…
“Are you with the Rauner candidate or not?”
It’s the winning framing, and further, if Trunp is the nominee, with Rauner’s “support”…
The proxy battle against or for a governor will be at play.
It will be at play in Munger-Mendoza, unless Munger decides, “right here, right now” that being the Comptroller is the winning strategy and continues to be more governmental and far less political in her visibility.
I think Munger still wins, but… it will be up her Crew to move as far away from Rauner as an arm-length can take her.
Dunkin and McCann are far less likeable. That’s to Munger’s Advantage, and she’s doing “all the right things”.
Can Rauner just stop being an anchor, that will be the question.
- Liberty - Wednesday, Mar 23, 16 @ 9:35 pm:
Clearly the world is ready for some moderate parties.
- Cabildero - Thursday, Mar 24, 16 @ 9:11 am:
Hey, Macbeth, PTAB.