Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » Rauner proposal funds abstinence education grants
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      About     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact Rich Miller
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Rauner proposal funds abstinence education grants

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2016 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Um, OK…


* From May 22, 2013

Illinois public schools that teach sex education will be required to provide information about birth control under a measure the Senate sent to Gov. Pat Quinn on Wednesday.

The legislation is a change from current policy, where abstinence is the only requirement for schools with sex ed classes. The measure was approved on a 37-21 vote and needed 30 to pass.

Supporters argue that abstinence-only education is not effective and students should be taught about other methods of birth control and protection against sexually transmitted diseases. Opponents contend abstinence-only education should remain the norm in schools, saying parents should decide how to educate their kids about sex.

Sponsoring Sen. Heather Steans, D-Chicago, said the measure still would require schools to teach that abstinence is the only way to prevent pregnancy and disease, while at the same time allowing “students to make healthy decisions for themselves.”

       

60 Comments
  1. - Triple fat - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:35 pm:

    If you’re going to gut social services you might as well promote teen pregnancy at the same time…


  2. - Juvenal - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:36 pm:

    So, according to Ron Sandack, there’s no reason to get excited about defunding homeless youth programs, but we magically found money for abstinence-only education?

    Are these folks trying to kill their own a deal or what?

    Where are Terry Cosgrove and Karen Reitan at on this?


  3. - Triple fat - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:37 pm:

    That will increase the population of Illinois. Well done Governor!


  4. - 360 Degree TurnAround - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:43 pm:

    So…if we teach abstinence regarding sex education, does that mean we can start teaching kids about not shooting guns or having guns at all, as the only 100% sure way not to kill people with a gun?


  5. - Not just me - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:43 pm:

    How do you tell people where you’re from without telling them you’re from Illinois?


  6. - Joe Bidenopolous - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:44 pm:

    Good thing there’s no social agenda


  7. - Cheryl44 - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:46 pm:

    Go ask Bristol Plain how well abstinence-only education works.


  8. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:46 pm:

    Abstinence is, indeed, a 100% effective form of birth control.

    But the history of the planet will show that the great majority of human beings have been hard-wired biologically to promote the survival of the species.

    So maybe teens with raging hormones might be best served by learning in school about other options.

    Learning. School. See how those two things go together?


  9. - Ghost - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:46 pm:

    wait isnt this collectivist spending to give grants like this?


  10. - 360 Degree TurnAround - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:49 pm:

    Abstinence hasn’t worked because the word just doesn’t sound like fun. They need to re-brand it. In keeping with the British, how about “sexit”?!


  11. - Honeybear - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:49 pm:

    I think parents can more effectively tell their kids to “not have sex” than a school for 5.6 million dollars. For the love of Almighty Christ, PLEASE give that money to a social service agency!
    Look abstinence education has been proven over and over to be totally ineffective. My denomination has a 14wk comprehensive human sexuality curriculum(s) (multiple curriculums age appropriate throughout the whole life). Abstinence only education is actually counter productive to the goal of reducing teen pregnancy and STD’s. Only comprehensive sexual education works. Money for this absolutely infuriates me.


  12. - fed up! - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:52 pm:

    Are you freakin’ kidding me?!?! Human Services and Higher Ed has just been gutted - (higher Ed - negative budget over the past 2 years - 118%)


  13. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:53 pm:

    Where would this 5.6 million dollars go? A bonus to teachers who agree to teach abstinence??


  14. - Dome Gnome - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:56 pm:

    “Not just me” wins the internet with:

    “How do you tell people where you’re from without telling them you’re from Illinois?”


  15. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:56 pm:

    ===How do you tell people where you’re from without telling them you’re from Illinois? ===

    West Indiana?


  16. - Hedley Lamarr - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 12:58 pm:

    Just say no. Another simple solution from a simple Governor.


  17. - Bleh - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:01 pm:

    I thought Mrs. Rauner said her husband had NO social agenda. And didn’t/doesn’t she support Planned Parenthood?

    For the love of the state - this is ridiculous.


  18. - SinkingShip - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:02 pm:

    ===How do you tell people where you’re from without telling them you’re from Illinois? ===

    Just abstain from answering the question. It’s 100% effective at preventing Illinois-directed scorn.


  19. - Richard Afflis - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:05 pm:

    I FULLY agree that abstinence desperately needs to be more of the dialogue in sex education. It should be the majority of the conversation in my opinion. Just do not think it should be the only education a teenager gets on the subject.


  20. - TCB - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:06 pm:

    Don’t know if it matters to anyone, but a couple points addressing some points made previously

    1. This is also in the Democrats budget bills.
    2. This is federal funds, not state. I assume it cannot be repurposed for any other uses. It’s free money from the Feds.


  21. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:08 pm:

    Is this another example of “no social agenda?”

    Like “no pay” for social service providers you’ve contracted with?


  22. - kimocat - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:09 pm:

    Uh, I wonder who receives contracts to provide this “abstinence” education?


  23. - How Ironic - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:15 pm:

    This is right up there with “Free Motorcycle Training Classes”


  24. - Juice - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:19 pm:

    TCB, the federal funding requires a state/local match of I believe 43%, so it’s not exactly “free money from the Feds.”


  25. - burbanite - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:20 pm:

    Um……NO


  26. - Honeybear - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:22 pm:

    Thanks TCB. That makes sense.


  27. - Illinois Bob - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:26 pm:

    and on what exactly will the $5.6 million be spent, hiring “consultants” to teach teachers what they should be able to pick up by reading?

    This should also include choices to have non-reproductive sex, and attach social stigma to having reproductive sex.

    It should be noted that out of wedlock births with FAR less amongst all demographic groups when society, while those engaging in it were vilified, but it skyrocketed when it became socially acceptable, and encourage by media, and profitable from public assistance.

    What will REALLY create abstinence is showing a tough childbirth and ravages of STDs to the girls. That’ll change a lot of minds.


  28. - kimocat - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:29 pm:

    Gee Bob, are you secretly an old Irish nun?


  29. - Demoralized - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:29 pm:

    Now Bob is the sex police. And a male chauvinist at that.


  30. - Demoralized - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:30 pm:

    Is this a carrot for Rep. Ives? lol


  31. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:33 pm:

    They should teach, never sleep with a woman who has more problems than you.


  32. - d.p.gumby - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:34 pm:

    Well, its worked for Brucie–he has abstained from presenting a balanced budget; he has abstained from governing; etc.


  33. - Skeptic - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:35 pm:

    “===How do you tell people where you’re from without telling them you’re from Illinois? ===”
    “Well, at least I’m not from Kansas.”


  34. - Belle - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:42 pm:

    I naively assumed these chauvinistic crazies only lived in other states?
    It is obvious the GOP have no intention of passing a budget. Today, that has become crystal clear.


  35. - Mama - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:47 pm:

    ===How do you tell people where you’re from without telling them you’re from Illinois? ===

    Eastern MO


  36. - Mama - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:50 pm:

    Give each teenager a baby that cries non-stop for hours. That should take care of them having unprotected sex.


  37. - a drop in - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:54 pm:

    ===How do you tell people where you’re from without telling them you’re from Illinois? ===

    I’m from the state with idiot government. That’ll keep them busy guessing.


  38. - Bruce (no not him) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:56 pm:

    “How do you tell people where you’re from without telling them you’re from Illinois?”
    Just say “It’s not my fault, I voted for the other guy” Applies for all elected officials.


  39. - Curious - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 1:58 pm:

    Illinois already receives federal dollars from the 2016 Title V State Abstinence Education Program Grant Awards

    Published: June 2, 2016

    Illinois $2,769,115


  40. - Lomez - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 2:00 pm:

    Oh, maybe I was supposed to add “\s” to my comment that got blocked.


  41. - TCB - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 2:10 pm:

    @ Curious

    I think you’re mixing approp and cash. the $5.6 is spending authority. The $2.7 is cash. So, presumably the 5.6 spending authority allows for the spending of the 2.7


  42. - kygirl73 - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 2:23 pm:

    Oh good grief!!!


  43. - Juice - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 2:28 pm:

    @ Curious, the grant was rescinded on June 13, 2016.


  44. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 2:30 pm:

    I agree, let the parents address birth control, safe sex, etc with thief children. Absence should be the primary focus and maybe safe sex should be touched upon but should really be left to the parents.


  45. - Honeybear - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 2:31 pm:

    –What will REALLY create abstinence is showing a tough childbirth and ravages of STDs to the girls. That’ll change a lot of minds.–

    This is what we get when we feed it. Please please please. Ignore it. Do not feed it.


  46. - Honeybear - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 2:40 pm:

    –Give each teenager a baby that cries non-stop for hours. That should take care of them having unprotected sex.–

    I believe that teens these days have an incredible ability to tune out ANYTHING they don’t want to hear. I’m sure every generation of parents have said the same thing. I go into “lecture mode” and the eyes go back into the head and they don’t hear a word. OR automatically and defensively say “I KNOW, I KNOW!” Luckily both my girls went through our churches human sexuality curriculum with another teacher. They listened to her and I’ve heard them using the things they learned, even correcting friends on misinformation. (A proud moment as a parent hearing that).


  47. - Formerly Known As... - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 2:54 pm:

    =West Indiana?=

    Northern Kentucky? Southern Wisconsin?

    The Midwest?


  48. - Formerly Known As... - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 3:02 pm:

    =The Great Lakes area=?

    =Near the Great Plains=?

    =South of Canada, north of Mexico.= That’s the one lol.


  49. - Suzanne - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 3:38 pm:

    Interesting aside: just six months ago the Governor said that, “After decades of such uncoordinated spending, Illinois residents are sicker and no better educated” and he is putting “a strong new focus on prevention and public health” and going to make “make evidence-based and data driven decisions.” So much for that pledge.


  50. - FAIRNESS AND FAIRNESS ONLY - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 3:41 pm:

    “What will REALLY create abstinence is showing a tough childbirth and ravages of STDs to the girls. That’ll change a lot of minds.”

    (Formerly) Illinois Bob, we might need to send you through the sex education program. Unwanted pregnancy is not the sole responsibility of the female. Males also play an important role. I dare say, the female couldn’t even attain an unwanted pregnancy without some contribution from a male.

    Please move into the current century and acknowledge that this is not a “girls” problem only, and the responsibility to protect from unwanted pregnancies in consensual intercourse is not limited to one partner.


  51. - Katich Walker, Jr. - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 3:48 pm:

    No reason not to mention abstinence only, but there must be presentations that cost far less.

    Fund quick and accurate testing to enable potential and/or multiple partners to confirm STD status before amour.


  52. - Seymourkid - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 3:55 pm:

    Can we now name Illinois Bob, West Indiana Bob?


  53. - Robert the Bruce - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 4:01 pm:

    $5.6 Million counterproductive…unless it bought a few R “Yes” votes on the budget compromise.


  54. - Amalia - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 4:20 pm:

    well let me abstain from this plan. theses plans are notoriously unsuccessful. waste of money.


  55. - Scamp640 - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 4:39 pm:

    I wonder how many folks in Illinois wish the Governor’s mother knew about abstinence education.


  56. - Michelle Flaherty - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 5:50 pm:

    Rauner says “yes” to abstinence


  57. - Soccermom - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 8:30 pm:

    How much would it cost to show a couple of seasons of Teen Mom? (Seriously — that show is credited with bringing the teen birth rate down significantly.)

    Also — I hate to confuse with the facts there, West Indiana Bob, but the teen birth rate has plummeted since it peaked in — wait for it — 1955. And the percentage of teen girls who say they are sexually active is down significantly since 1988.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/29/why-is-the-teen-birth-rate-falling/

    And about those movies showing difficult births — how many women do you know who stop having sex after giving birth for the first time?

    (Sorry — the troll looked so very hungry….)


  58. - ArchPundit - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 10:05 pm:

    He said he wanted to be like Tennessee, South Carolina, and Texas. He’s telling you what he’s doing, you just have to believe him.


  59. - Ms. SHEESH - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 11:22 pm:

    Doesn’t he know how to google a topic? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041301003.html

    Sheesh


  60. - Ms. SHEESH - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 11:31 pm:

    I was teaching in a high school that offered daycare to the unwed teen moms. Then……..the funding for abstinence counseling came through (during George W. administration). Students were lured by free pizza and the classes were packed. I would venture to say it had no impact on the number of pregnant girls since all the excitement was about the Pizza.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Showcasing The Retailers Who Make Illinois Work
* Reader comments closed for the holidays
* And the winners are…
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Update to previous editions
* Isabel’s afternoon roundup
* Report: Far-right Illinois billionaires may have skirted immigration rules
* Question of the day: Golden Horseshoe Awards (Updated)
* Energy Storage Brings Cheaper Electricity, Greater Reliability
* Open thread
* Isabel’s morning briefing
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Live coverage
* Selected press releases (Live updates)
* Yesterday's stories

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Loading


Main Menu
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

Archives
December 2024
November 2024
October 2024
September 2024
August 2024
July 2024
June 2024
May 2024
April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

Syndication

RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0




Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller