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Wednesday, Jun 29, 2016

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* Keep an eye on BlueRoomStream’s live video feed from the Statehouse. They’re covering this afternoon’s leaders meeting, which started at 4:30 or so.

At about 5:20, Speaker Madigan and Senate President John Cullerton emerged from the meeting. Madigan’s spokesman Steve Brown announced that the two were “taking a break,” and would return.

I’m hearing from within that this is “potentially” a sign of progress. Keep your fingers crossed. But this being Illinois, don’t hold your breath. You could die.

* Follow along with ScribbleLive

- Posted by Rich Miller        

  1. - Rich Miller - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 6:27 pm:

    These leaders meeting stakeouts are the worst. Boredom is excruciating. Fortunately, I’m covering this one via video feed from my house. :)

  2. - Juice - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 6:45 pm:

    Kick a little of that Exelon/Clean Jobs Illinois cash BlueRoomStream’s way so you can stay in the comfort of your own home?

  3. - Norseman - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 6:46 pm:

    Beautiful night, perhaps they should work it out at a picnic table- staff can sit on the grass. Might get them in a better mood.

  4. - Norseman - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 6:48 pm:

    === Madigan usually doesn’t stay in leaders’ meetings if the talks are unproductive. His usual dinner time is 6:30. ===

    Buy an apple Rauner. Get it precut. Still might not be a good idea to have Madigan with a knife.

  5. - Anon221 - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 6:50 pm:

    Love LiveStream!

    Sun Times puts the importance of the meeting in perspective:

  6. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 6:51 pm:

    Let’s hope someone doesn’t come stomping out, hopefully they all realize they will not only mess up the state but also their careers if they don’t stop the toxic behavior.

  7. - Anon221 - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:01 pm:

    Norseman- They had better stay inside. There’s a vigil by those affected by the impass going on outside the Capitol. No pitchforks and tar, but better safe than sorry:)

  8. - Anon221 - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:04 pm:

  9. - Norseman - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:07 pm:

    Anon221, good point.

  10. - Trolling Troll - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:08 pm:

    With the tunnel system, they could be at DH Browns right now.

  11. - Rich Miller - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:09 pm:

    TT, nah. I got somebody inside texting me. lol

  12. - Anon221 - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:10 pm:

    Hopefully the escape routes are being monitored:)

  13. - Huh? - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:19 pm:

    “I’m covering this one via video feed from my house. :)”

    With an adult beverage in hand. :)

  14. - Anon221 - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:21 pm:

    SJ-R is joining the Sun Times in spirit, too-

  15. - Rich Miller - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:22 pm:

    ===With an adult beverage in hand===


  16. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:22 pm:

    It’s obvious that Illinois can’t implement the same old practices… However, the decisions of those in power previously has really screwed over citizens of the state. They have two options. 1) Be realistic and pass a stop gap that will not bailout CPS or other mishandling, though support it enough to prevent massive layoffs. 2) Spew political rhetoric of not giving anything or give way too much. #1 would probably make more sense. Seriously this game of chicken is foolish.

  17. - AC - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:30 pm:

    Madigan had to end the meeting early, Saputo’s will be sending out the police to search for him if he’s not there soon.

  18. - illini - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:32 pm:

    ” His suggestion is to sleep on it tonight. ”

    Didn’t Meat Loaf say about the same thing in his song from 30 or more years ago?

  19. - Anon221 - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:37 pm:

    Impressed with the maturity of the four tops on leaving the meeting. Please, no shots across the bow overnight. Here’s to a productive resumption in the morning!

  20. - Rich Miller - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:39 pm:

    AC, he isn’t going to Saputo’s tonight.

  21. - IRLJ - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:46 pm:

    Hope the goalposts don’t move, and that they draft a joint statement of agreement…in writing…before they finish tomorrow.

  22. - Trolling Troll - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:52 pm:

    Thanks Rich. I almost strolled over there.

  23. - Rod - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 7:59 pm:

    It’s possible the members of the Assembly could be in for a long day of waiting for orders from the leaders tomorrow. Then suddenly get a complex bill or bills with limited time to understand what they mean in any detail. That would be the typical process wouldn’t it.

    This is not pretty and not the way our government should function. But it is what we have come to expect.

  24. - Big Ern - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 8:04 pm:

    Fine, let them sleep on it tonight. Starting tomorrow, how ’bout they enact some of the rules from the 13th Century papal enclaves? (I’m sure this isn’t the first time that’s been suggested here.)

  25. - Grandson of Man - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 8:21 pm:

    “It’s obvious that Illinois can’t implement the same old practices”

    This criticism might be valid if Rauner didn’t tie up the budget with non-budget demands that won’t pass. This made the situation worse.

    It’s just my opinion, but I think it’s very wrong to hold a budget hostage to demands that are not directly budget-related and won’t pass as stand-alone legislation.

    Many agree that we need reforms, but we don’t agree on what reforms we need. Some want Rauneresque reforms. I want to shift the tax burden more on the wealthy, drug sentencing reform and marijuana legalization. We can’t get these reforms, so let’s stop trying to be Messiahs and save the state with radical legislation in drastically-short timelines and instead get what we can. We have to attain the fundamentals first, in my opinion.

  26. - Last Bull Moose - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 8:29 pm:

    Will the stopgap agreements give us “Peace in our time? “

  27. - Bleh - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 8:40 pm:

    There is hope…

  28. - Rod - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 9:12 pm:

    Oh I forgot because of the hasty nature of Illinois deal making some type of fatal flaw will likely appear in the bill or bills passed.Then we will need to pass the ever famous “trailer bill” to fix the flaws. That is also what we have come to expect from our government.

  29. - peon - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 9:28 pm:

    Hope. If you are in the state house please collect every microphone near the Governor’s office and hide them until July 2nd.

  30. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 9:46 pm:

    “See, I can see… Good things for you and I… “

  31. - Mama - Tuesday, Jun 28, 16 @ 10:11 pm:


  32. - Longsummer - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 6:35 am:

    Celebration over a possible stopgap? Sad how far expectations have fallen. Call me when there is a full year’s budget.

  33. - Huh? - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 7:55 am:

    Make sure the MOUs are signed and iron clad before voting on anything.

    Just because the GA passes a budget and 1.4% signs it, doesn’t mean that he has to spend the money.

  34. - Rich Miller - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 8:19 am:

    ===Call me when there is a full year’s budget. ===

    Meh. You’re gonna wait a while.

  35. - Formerly Known as Frenchie M - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 8:24 am:

    So, I assume, the barn-burning campaign tour ripping the Dems is already planned for tomorrow?

    Are the anti-Madigan commercials in the can and ready to roll?

    Does Chamber of Commerce already have their “hang in there” editorial written?

  36. - Hedley Lamarr - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 9:06 am:

    They’ll come out when they, smell the meet a’cookin’.

  37. - Juvenal - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 9:16 am:

    === It’s just my opinion, but I think it’s very wrong to hold a budget hostage to demands that are not directly budget-related and won’t pass as stand-alone legislation. ===

    If Quinn had told downstate Republicans he was holding funding for the department of corrections and downstate universities hostage until they voted for his gun control legislation, they would have been apoplectic.

    BTW, I am sure he could have come up with some argument that before we dumped more money into prisons, we should try to reduce the flow of guns that land many inmates there, and before we send kids off to EIU, we need to ensure the campus is safe.

    Still, the constitution prohibits anything but appropriations in a budget bill for just this reason.

  38. - Grandson of Man - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 10:14 am:

    “If Quinn had told downstate Republicans he was holding funding for the department of corrections and downstate universities hostage until they voted for his gun control legislation, they would have been apoplectic.”

    Lol. Quinn would have–and should have–been excoriated for pulling something like that.

    I hope they can pass a stopgap compromise with some help for CPS. Cullerton did good by pointing an element of unfairness in the way Chicago pays for school pensions.

  39. - Mama - Wednesday, Jun 29, 16 @ 3:52 pm:

    Rich, will we ever have a full year’s budget while Rauner is in office?

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