OW as a one of the biggest Republican supporters of the status quo, should taxpayers continue to pour money into these schools (on the decline long before Rauner was inaugurated) or should we try to save them by merging with healthier institutions ?
a) I’ve eliminated AFSCME;
b) The Dems lose the General Assembly;
c) Term limits have been enacted; and
d) “H,” “E” and double hockey sticks freezes over.
There you go again. If you don’t agree with the Governor you must be for the status quo. The “if your against us you must be for the status quo” argument is asinine.
All I’ve ever wanted from this Governor is for him to govern. It’s been two years. Still no governing. That’s how I’ll judge him. Whether he can manage to actually engage in the act of governing.
OK Governor. You are almost halfway through your term. How well have you created jobs in every neighborhood? And can we see basis for those numbers? Thank you.
The idea that governors “create” jobs is not supported by any reputable economics scholarship. It’s just shallow political p.r. run amok to the point of babbling lunacy.
But Rauner is also pulling a grift here. IDES already projects that Illinois jobs will grow by about 400,000 in the next eight years.
So when he feels like it, Rauner can start taking credit for “creating” jobs that were already baked in.
–OW as a one of the biggest Republican supporters of the status quo, should taxpayers continue to pour money into these schools (on the decline long before Rauner was inaugurated) or should we try to save them by merging with healthier institutions ?–
LP, there’s a plan? What a relief. Care to fill us in on it?
Because right now, it just looks like Social Darwinism.
It’s his job to create jobs? Wow, I thought it was to do things like present budgets, work with the legislature, sign budgets and other laws. Plus all the other official duties listed in our constitution. Who knew?
Also, FYI, I don’t think he’s doing so good at job creation either.
Here is your answer Governor. NONE! You have not created a single job in ANY neighborhood in the first two years since you were elected. When are you going to start to govern and stop campaigning?
Credit for job creation is an interesting question of course.
During the Presidential campaign the Republicans criticized President Obama for his “horrible” job creation numbers. And Republican Donald Trump claims his energy policy will create millions of new jobs.
Yet the majority of Governors are Republicans like Republican Bruce Rauner. So if there is a job created in a single neighborhood in Illinois. Who gets to count that as “their” job? Seriously, economists must have been asked this question before.
Or if IL adds jobs in 2017 are those Republican Donald Trump’s jobs or Republican Bruce Rauner’s jobs?
I suppose his numbers will look much better after all these dozens of companies he has on-call finally move to Illinois. They’re just chomping at the bit to get in here and he’s holding them back until we put a stake through the heart of AF-SCAMMY.
Do we count the jobs he out sources? But we don’t count the lost ones that was out sourced? Do they count when it’s a canadian company with call centers out of state?
@wordslinger
“So when he feels like it, Rauner can start taking credit for “creating” jobs that were already baked in.”
The new term is “dropping a Donald” - taking credit for something you have nothing to do with. Like when the president elect claimed he saved jobs in Kentucky’s Ford plant from going to Mexico.
He has done a magnificent job of creating jobs and promoting inbound migration. Bankruptcy lawyers from across the nation are saying “Illinois is the place to be”
- Anon221 - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:01 pm:
Awfully short feedback loop. I prefer 2018 at the polls.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:03 pm:
Do we count the jobs lost if Eastern and/or Chicago State closes, or…
Or… Do we subtract all the social service organizations that laid off people because you wkng pay them, like LSSI for example, or…
Lots of math it seems needs to happen.
- illini - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:08 pm:
Willy, don’t worry about such mundane details. Just believe whatever our Governor says - surely he must know better than the rest of us. Right?
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:09 pm:
OW as a one of the biggest Republican supporters of the status quo, should taxpayers continue to pour money into these schools (on the decline long before Rauner was inaugurated) or should we try to save them by merging with healthier institutions ?
- yeah - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:11 pm:
Caption: Wood boy with clay feet.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:12 pm:
===should taxpayers continue to pour money into these schools===
Fine. Let’s discuss it. Starting with the governor. He keeps saying he’s all for giving them money.
- Liberty - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:12 pm:
The honeymoon is over.
- Norseman - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:13 pm:
You can start counting after:
a) I’ve eliminated AFSCME;
b) The Dems lose the General Assembly;
c) Term limits have been enacted; and
d) “H,” “E” and double hockey sticks freezes over.
- Demoralized - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:15 pm:
== supporters of the status quo==
There you go again. If you don’t agree with the Governor you must be for the status quo. The “if your against us you must be for the status quo” argument is asinine.
- Ole' Nelson - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:16 pm:
He forgot to add that when judging he will give himself bonus points if low wages and rock-bottom benefits are a part of those jobs.
- Demoralized - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:19 pm:
All I’ve ever wanted from this Governor is for him to govern. It’s been two years. Still no governing. That’s how I’ll judge him. Whether he can manage to actually engage in the act of governing.
- illinoised - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:20 pm:
His statement is political babble.
- Henry Francis - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:23 pm:
Who asked the obvious follow up question:
OK Governor. You are almost halfway through your term. How well have you created jobs in every neighborhood? And can we see basis for those numbers? Thank you.
- AlfondoGonz - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:23 pm:
“Judging others is easy because it distracts us from the responsibility of judging ourselves.”
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:25 pm:
- illini -
Rauner seems to know better. So there’s that.
- Lucky Pierre -
When did Rauner say state universities need to close? Your description seems to indicate a want of Rauner to close the schools, so we agree?
Does that make you part of the status quo?
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:27 pm:
The idea that governors “create” jobs is not supported by any reputable economics scholarship. It’s just shallow political p.r. run amok to the point of babbling lunacy.
But Rauner is also pulling a grift here. IDES already projects that Illinois jobs will grow by about 400,000 in the next eight years.
So when he feels like it, Rauner can start taking credit for “creating” jobs that were already baked in.
http://www.ides.illinois.gov/LMI/Pages/Employment_Projections.aspx
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:29 pm:
–OW as a one of the biggest Republican supporters of the status quo, should taxpayers continue to pour money into these schools (on the decline long before Rauner was inaugurated) or should we try to save them by merging with healthier institutions ?–
LP, there’s a plan? What a relief. Care to fill us in on it?
Because right now, it just looks like Social Darwinism.
- siriusly - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:31 pm:
Let’s make it an even easier standard.
Created any jobs? In any neighborhood?
- ILGOV2018 - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:33 pm:
How well are those neighborhoods that Rauner bribed, errr… gave money to the community credit unions doing with job creation?
Pastor Corey Brooks and former Senator Ricky Hendon were rewarded with jobs, how about the rest of their communities?
- Trolling Troll - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:34 pm:
“I’ll judge myself..you people are not my peers.”
- ILGOV2018 - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:36 pm:
@Trolling Troll….
LOL!
- Thoughts Matter - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:37 pm:
It’s his job to create jobs? Wow, I thought it was to do things like present budgets, work with the legislature, sign budgets and other laws. Plus all the other official duties listed in our constitution. Who knew?
Also, FYI, I don’t think he’s doing so good at job creation either.
- ILGOV2018 - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:38 pm:
Here is your answer Governor. NONE! You have not created a single job in ANY neighborhood in the first two years since you were elected. When are you going to start to govern and stop campaigning?
- Jocko - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:53 pm:
I’m to believe that same man who bad-mouthed a CPS ‘bailout’ downstate is now coming to the rescue with jobs in Chicago neighborhoods?
- Michelle Flaherty - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:54 pm:
The people in Clinton and the Quad-Cities are anxious to see what the governor’s jobs retention policies look like.
- siriusly - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 2:55 pm:
Credit for job creation is an interesting question of course.
During the Presidential campaign the Republicans criticized President Obama for his “horrible” job creation numbers. And Republican Donald Trump claims his energy policy will create millions of new jobs.
Yet the majority of Governors are Republicans like Republican Bruce Rauner. So if there is a job created in a single neighborhood in Illinois. Who gets to count that as “their” job? Seriously, economists must have been asked this question before.
Or if IL adds jobs in 2017 are those Republican Donald Trump’s jobs or Republican Bruce Rauner’s jobs?
- illini97 - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 3:05 pm:
I suppose his numbers will look much better after all these dozens of companies he has on-call finally move to Illinois. They’re just chomping at the bit to get in here and he’s holding them back until we put a stake through the heart of AF-SCAMMY.
- Union thug - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 3:09 pm:
Do we count the jobs he out sources? But we don’t count the lost ones that was out sourced? Do they count when it’s a canadian company with call centers out of state?
- Dr X - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 3:22 pm:
Does that include jobs that can pay the rent and the health insurance once Trump repeals it?
- IllinoisBoi - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 3:32 pm:
When 1,000 well-paying jobs with benefits are replaced with 1,200 low-paid jobs with no benefits, is that “job growth”?
- Huh? - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 3:41 pm:
Well, you have to give 1.4% a modicum of credit, he has finally established a baseline with which to measure his performance as governor.
But I wonder how many jobs are going to be created out in the neighborhoods of cornfields in downstate Illinois.
- gdubya - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 4:23 pm:
@wordslinger
“So when he feels like it, Rauner can start taking credit for “creating” jobs that were already baked in.”
The new term is “dropping a Donald” - taking credit for something you have nothing to do with. Like when the president elect claimed he saved jobs in Kentucky’s Ford plant from going to Mexico.
- wondering - Tuesday, Nov 22, 16 @ 5:08 pm:
He has done a magnificent job of creating jobs and promoting inbound migration. Bankruptcy lawyers from across the nation are saying “Illinois is the place to be”
- Rabid - Wednesday, Nov 23, 16 @ 5:17 am:
Welcome to Mr. Rauner’s neighborhood. Self evaluation is the benchmark of politics.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Nov 23, 16 @ 9:08 am:
Jobs in Madeupville are up, way up!