Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar » The Illinois Policy Institute offers up a compromise stopgap
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      About     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact Rich Miller
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
The Illinois Policy Institute offers up a compromise stopgap

Monday, Jan 30, 2017 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Interesting thought

The 2016 court ruling puts the attorney general in a position to force the state to stop paying workers, since lawmakers haven’t passed a bill funding state-worker salaries. If the attorney general gets her way, state workers will go without pay until the General Assembly passes an appropriations bill. This could put pressure on state lawmakers to pass another unsustainable state budget like the proposal gaining traction in the Senate, which would subject Illinoisans to massive tax hikes with no real reform, long the priority of Lisa Madigan’s father, House Speaker Mike Madigan.

But the push to force through the Senate’s budget plan is based on a false choice: Lawmakers don’t have to pass this proposal to ensure state workers get paid.

Instead, the General Assembly could pass a clean appropriations bill for state-worker pay, rather than a deal as part of an increasingly complex and unwieldy budget package now taking form in the Illinois Senate.

The governor, however, has said he would demand a permanent property tax freeze and term limits in exchange for his signature on another stopgap budget.

       

37 Comments
  1. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:00 am:

    ===Instead, the General Assembly could pass a clean appropriations bill for state-worker pay, rather than a deal as part of an increasingly complex and unwieldy budget package now taking form in the Illinois Senate.===

    Higher Ed?

    Social Servives?


  2. - Under Influenced... - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:07 am:

    Don’t pass an unsustainable budget; instead, pass a unsustainable approp bill to fund state-worker salaries….gotcha!


  3. - Precinct Captain - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:07 am:

    IPI wants its patron, Bruce Rauner, to be free from all legal, fiscal, and political consequences of his disastrous reign.


  4. - RNUG - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:09 am:

    If the GA and Gov don’t pass either a stop-gap or full budget, then the shut-down can be painted as Rauner’s … Governor’s own.

    That doesn’t match Rauner’s game plan. He wants a state shut-down caused by an AFSCME so he can play the good guy in this horse opera.


  5. - morningstar - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:13 am:

    This approach follows the same logic as the transportation lockbox, doesn’t it? Eventually, we could have a dozen little sacred cows, each with its own binding rules, and then, voila! One day, someone comes up with the bright idea of putting these all together in a comprehensive package… sort of like what our State Constitution originally outlined before this madness began.


  6. - wondering - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:14 am:

    In IPI’s dreams. This isn’t about not being paid for work, it is about not working because no authority to be paid. If the Court sides with Madigan, how could they not, given the Constitutional language, the G.A. can hand Rauner anything they want and he is the one who would have to pull the trigger on a shut down with a veto. Further, if he does not submit a budget by February 15 look for a writ of mandamus from the Court.


  7. - A Jack - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:15 am:

    A pay appropriation with a contract arbitration stipulation? Two can play at the poison pill game. That would be fun hearing the Governor trying to explain that veto.


  8. - NoGifts - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:18 am:

    Dumb question I know, I thought by they were required to pass an appropriations bill within the limits of the budget? Can they do it with no budget?


  9. - wordslinger - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:18 am:

    Now why would a group of independent, non-partisan, deep-think-tankers put out a trial balloon on ways to extend a grubby, nasty, destructive, political fight?

    Is this in any way one of those “public policy solutions aimed at promoting personal freedom and prosperity in Illinois” that is their self-proclaimed reason-for-being?

    They couldn’t clear their throats for months on a multi-billion corporate shakedown from Exelon, but they’re quick out of the gate on a way to keep the fun of the dysfunction goin’?

    I’m startin’ to question their sincerity and integrity.


  10. - Consideration - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:26 am:

    - A Jack - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:15 am:

    “A pay appropriation with a contract arbitration stipulation? Two can play at the poison pill game. That would be fun hearing the Governor trying to explain that veto.”

    Exactly!


  11. - Last Bull Moose - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:26 am:

    Sounds like a Rauner trial balloon. Shoot it down!


  12. - Northsider - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:28 am:

    LBM @ 11:26: Bingo. And agreed.


  13. - Norseman - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:29 am:

    === I’m startin’ to question their sincerity and integrity. ===

    Spit Take


  14. - Anonymous Lee - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:40 am:

    It makes zero - ZERO - sense to pass a bill that would appropriate state worker salaries but not the operating budget that they need to do their jobs.

    You would literally be paying them to show up at work and stare at the walls.

    I cannot believe the IPI penned such a ridiculous idea.


  15. - Anonymous Lee - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:41 am:

    Besides, isn’t the IPI supposed to be offering up a compromise budget that requires zero tax hikes?


  16. - Thoughts Matter - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 11:52 am:

    IPI - stop trying to pick and choose the hostages. State workers are no less ( something you often forget) and no more important than social service agencies and others. I’m not feeling your love and would prefer you not stick your nose in.
    We cannot cut our way out of the budget mess and you know that too. Otherwise you’d be crowing about your own proposed budget.


  17. - DuPage Bard - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 12:07 pm:

    Bruce to IPI- you guys said she wouldn’t do that!!! Why did she do that?? So what do we do now?

    IPI to Bruce- hold my beer, we got this- we’ll just tell everyone to do another stop gap. Our people will buy it and they’ll think it’s for the good of the workers. Problem solved, lamp is lit, it’s 5 o’clock somewhere.


  18. - m - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 12:09 pm:

    =A pay appropriation with a contract arbitration stipulation? Two can play at the poison pill game. That would be fun hearing the Governor trying to explain that veto.=

    Amendatory veto? He wants them to get paid.

    No paychecks would provide too much cover for workers if they strike.


  19. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 12:15 pm:

    ===No paychecks would provide too much cover for workers if they strike.===

    So, you agree to this so it forces a strike…

    The AG doesn’t feel a budget is needed, it’s about Labor.

    Illinois is without a budget and paying employees with out one is the issue.


  20. - Anon - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 12:17 pm:

    Yes, some here have already predicted this result. Bruce will agree to another stopgap to avoid a shutdown even if he doesn’t get his way.


  21. - The_Equalizer - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 12:20 pm:

    I see Bruce’s mouthpiece has ideas. So many ideas!


  22. - Earnest - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 12:28 pm:

    >The governor, however, has said

    He’s said a great many things, but those things are not a great predictor of his actions. There certainly is going to be a painful tax increase as well as other painful things, and the longer it takes the worse it gets.


  23. - Flapdoodle - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 12:41 pm:

    @OW 11:00 The position at WIU is that university employee salaries do not come through the Comptroller, and are thus unaffected by the AG’s court motion. Whether this applies to university funds generally, I don’t know.

    Social services are of course something else again, entirely.


  24. - A Jack - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 12:42 pm:

    Amendatory vetoes still must be approved or overriden by the GA. Otherwise the Governor could have done his turn-around agenda with a bunch of amendatory vetoes.

    Anyway, as much as I would enjoy the spectacle, I don’t think they should do a piecemeal budget with just an appropriation for employee pay.


  25. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 12:44 pm:

    ===The position at WIU is that university employee salaries…===

    Not everything is about salaries.

    How about actually funding Western Illinois University?


  26. - Pawn - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 1:43 pm:

    Completely unacceptable. Current hostages will resist this idea in total.


  27. - Honeybear - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 2:11 pm:

    Almost every Public University employee I know has come out saying it doesn’t effect my pay. True, but what they don’t get is that if AFSCME falls in this battle THEIR health insurance is going to double because it is pegged to ours. I have been so disappointed in the State University folks. They’re all about their “teach ins” or actions but when it comes to their own health insurance they are totally blind and ignorant. End rant


  28. - Flapdoodle - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 2:20 pm:

    @OW 12:44

    Not everything is about salaries — Agreed!

    Actual funding — Mysterious silence there, but “working assumption” (yes, I know about assumptions) is that the funding will be available. Above my pay grade.


  29. - Sugar dad - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 2:42 pm:

    CD Davidsmeyer had a clean state worker pay approps bill last year.


  30. - m - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 2:53 pm:

    =So, you agree to this so it forces a strike…=
    Signing employee approp doesn’t force strike. But if a strike is coming, Rauner needs it to happen while paychecks are being paid.

    =Amendatory vetoes still must be approved or overriden by the GA=

    Yes, but after he av’s it, it’s on the GA whether or not employees get paid. The override votes aren’t there, so Madigan gets to choose whether to just pay employees, or stop all employee pay over a union ask bill that the average Joe doesn’t even understand. And that WILL be the message if it happens. “Two Madigans worked together to stop state employees from getting their paychecks.”


  31. - m - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 2:57 pm:

    =Illinois is without a budget and paying employees with out one is the issue.=

    On first read I missed what you’re saying. So to make it clear, I’m not now, nor did I previously state that AG Madigan did this to help provide cover for a strike.

    All I’m saying is that a stop to paychecks makes a strike easier for AFSCME, more sympathy from public, etc.

    But it makes it worse for Rauner is there’s a strike.

    I never said that was the motivation for her. I’m not saying it’s not, because I’m sure there were a ton of factors behind her decision. Maybe this was one, maybe it wasn’t. I’m simply talking about the reality of what it means, regardless of the why.


  32. - Roman - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 3:17 pm:

    - Anonymous Lee

    Wondering where the IPI’s tax free budget?
    Spoiler alert: it will be filled with fund sweeps (including LGDF) and novel legal theories that involve shorting pension payments.


  33. - Signal and Noise - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 3:32 pm:

    This is the clearest signal yet that Rauner and his apologists are seriously freaking about the other shoe dropping once this court ordered pay stoppage hits.


  34. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 4:46 pm:

    ===I never said that was the motivation for her. I’m not saying it’s not, because I’m sure there were a ton of factors behind her decision. Maybe this was one, maybe it wasn’t. I’m simply talking about the reality of what it means, regardless of the why.===

    Hmm…

    ===No paychecks would provide too much cover for workers if they strike.===

    Lots of words for such speculative thinking that included providing “too much cover”…

    Why “too much”? The veto, the AG.

    Sounds like a lot to the “why”


  35. - m - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 5:04 pm:

    =Sounds like a lot to the “why”=

    I’m giving you the “why” to Rauner and to AFSCME. Rauner would sign employee pay approp. In the PR war, no paychecks helps AFSCME’s cause in a strike and hurts Rauner’s.

    The AG’s “why” is moot (at least to me), because she already did it. Doesn’t matter why. She’s doing what she’s doing.

    You seem more concerned with my theory on her motivations, and you’re avoiding the topic of the potential impact on a strike.

    So let’s hear it- Do you not think a pay stoppage helps AFSCME in a strike?


  36. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 5:12 pm:

    ===You seem more concerned with my theory on her motivations, and you’re avoiding the topic of the potential impact on a strike.

    So let’s hear it- Do you not think a pay stoppage helps AFSCME in a strike?===

    This Post is about IPI’s compromise of a stopgap for pay. The only person seemingly concerned about “why”s and strikes are you. I find that odd, given this is IPI and not the budget but a safety valve to keep pressure on a budget deal by paying state employees.

    I read your comment. I found it confusing to the Post.

    I’ve addressed your question before.


  37. - Michelle Flaherty - Monday, Jan 30, 17 @ 7:01 pm:

    Because IPI supports State Workers.

    haven’t you seen all their signs?


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Pritzker calls some of Bears proposals 'probably non-starters,' refuses to divert state dollars intended for other purposes (Updated)
* Isabel’s afternoon roundup
* Friends of the Parks responds to Bears’ lakefront stadium proposal
* It’s just a bill
* Judge rejects state motion to move LaSalle Veterans' Home COVID deaths lawsuit to Court of Claims
* Learn something new every day
* Protect Illinois Hospitality – Vote No On House Bill 5345
* Need something to read? Try these Illinois-related books
* Illinois Hospitals Are Driving Economic Activity Across Illinois: $117.7B Annually And 445K Jobs
* Today's quotables
* Open thread
* Isabel’s morning briefing
* Live coverage
* Yesterday's stories

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Loading


Main Menu
Home
Illinois
YouTube
Pundit rankings
Obama
Subscriber Content
Durbin
Burris
Blagojevich Trial
Advertising
Updated Posts
Polls

Archives
April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005

Syndication

RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0




Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller