Rauner completely twists Cullerton’s quote
Tuesday, Jun 6, 2017 - Posted by Rich Miller
* Gov. Rauner responding to a question today from Mike Flannery…
You know what, Mike, here’s what I think’s going on. I don’t know for sure, but, um, the Speaker’s main lieutenant Lou Lang two years ago said, ‘You know what, we’re never gonna have a budget for four years.’
He told you what they really want. They want chaos. They want mayhem. They’re happy to hurt whoever they need to hurt because, and now they’re being honest again.
I think it was the Senate President who came out and said, ‘You know what, the governor can’t be reelected unless there’s a budget.’ He said that publicly.
You see where they’re going? You see what this is about? They’re damaging communities like Hegewisch. They are damaging human services for political gain.
* Lou’s quote from 2016…
Bruce Rauner has been at the state’s helm since last January, which means he’ll be governor for at least another two and a half years. Back in May, Democratic State Representative Lou Lang remarked:
“That it was entirely possible that there would not be an agreed budget during the entire four years of Bruce Rauner’s governorship.”
Lang says he doesn’t want that. But, he says, it’s possible.
* Now, here’s Senate President John Cullerton’s recent quote…
“He’s been spending time working on his commercials and his campaign instead of governing,” Cullerton said. “And the irony is, he would actually have a better chance of getting elected if he would’ve passed the budget. Without a budget, this guy is toast.”
…Adding… I really thought this was self-explanatory, but for the slow out there, here’s the point: Cullerton was saying that if the governor would spend less time campaigning and more time getting a budget, then, ironically, that would actually help the governor get himself reelected. Rauner twisted that to say that Cullerton deliberately killed a budget deal to continue doing damage to the state, thereby hurting the governor’s reelection chances.
Better now?
- Not Rich - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:29 pm:
And of course, the meek mute members of the press let him go unchallenged..
- Cheryl44 - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:30 pm:
Does he always refer to himself as ‘they?’
- 47th Ward - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:32 pm:
Classic projection. As if anyone needed further proof that it is Rauner who doesn’t want a budget, who is creating chaos, who is inflicting pain. That entire excerpted quote above is Rauner speaking about himself.
He’s either a pathological liar or he has some pretty severe mental health issues going on, beginning with an alarming lack of self-awareness.
Plus, how stupid does he think we are?
- Arsenal - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:33 pm:
The funny part is, the Rauner-ized quote isn’t even objectionable. I think a lot of people would/will consider an inability to get a budget for four years a disqualifying record for a candidate.
- John Rawlss - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:34 pm:
Sounds like exactly what cullerton said
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:36 pm:
Rauner wins, yet again.
The “misused” quote by Rauner… that will get played and covered…
And you know what, Rauner wins the day, and you know what, Rauner will win tomorrow, and you know what, Rauner will continue to win today, tomorrow, every day until, you know what, Democrats learn that messaging by osmosis hasn’t been working and they need response unit.
I really, really wanted to say “rapid response” unit but,… baby steps.
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:40 pm:
Blagolike lying, but in the service of malice.
Way creepy.
- Louis G. Atsaves - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:45 pm:
“Without a budget, this guy is toast.”
“Lang says he doesn’t want that. But, he says, it’s possible.”
Quotes do speak for themselves.
- jim - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:46 pm:
Don’t sprinkle too much holy water on Lang. He has made multiple statements indicating Dems wouldn’t pass a budget with Rauner. Here’s another
“One of Madigan’s top lieutenants, Rep. Lou Lang, D-Skokie, told reporters last week that it is Rauner who’s not interested in doing the job he was elected to do. Then he added: ‘We may or may not have a budget during the entire term of Bruce Rauner.’”
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:51 pm:
===Don’t sprinkle too much holy water on Lang===
Ergo the headline.
- Because I said so.... - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:51 pm:
Rauner continues to lie and deceive the people of Illinois.
Bruce doesn’t have a social agenda. LIE.
I’m the education Governor. LIE. Tell that one to the higher ed community.
It’s time for the Democrats to take off the gloves and show this guy for what and who he is. Someone hell bent on destroying the state to help himself and his rich friends.
- Illinois o'Malley - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:52 pm:
Dear ILL media (besides Rich and McKinney) - How much longer are you going to let Bruce get away with this? Every single Illinois newspaper editorial staff should be ashamed of themselves.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:53 pm:
===Quotes do speak for themselves===
Especially when you yank them out of context. Doing so may be great for campaigns, but it’s really lousy for getting anything done in government.
- AnonymousOne - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:55 pm:
I’ve wondered about the mental state of our governor. Real people are sick and tired of this gamesmanship, sick of reading about yet another victim. Sick of the tension created by the uncertainty. SIck of wondering why our tax dollars aren’t paying for things they should be paying for. Sick, sick, sick.
If this is meant to be some kind of entertaining reality show type thing, it’s time to grow up and get down to business of governing, listening to citizens and working on their behalf. With what is going on, I feel that a 3 year old could accomplish the same results.
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:57 pm:
Amazing, Louis, that you don’t get the point of the post, and think doubling down on the boss’ willful misrepresentations is helping him out.
With those mad debate skills, what do your traffic clients get — life in front a firing squad?
- Ole' Nelson - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 4:58 pm:
“I feel that a 3 year old could accomplish the same results.”
Bruce is accomplishing the results he wants. Statements he makes like these are merely a smoke screen for those who aren’t really paying attention.
- Ole' Nelson - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 5:00 pm:
Bruce assumes that the electorate are not very bright. I worry that he is on to something…
- Cassandra - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 5:01 pm:
Um, I’m not so sure “real people,” are paying that much attention. First, national politics are getting pretty exciting and we workers have to go to work too, and raise the kids and clean the house and so forth. Our time is limited. Secondly, well, it’s Illinois, land of bad governance by both parties-for decades.
- AC - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 5:15 pm:
The Governor doesn’t take unsolicited advice very well it seems.
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 5:26 pm:
Last night on Chicago Tonight Sen. Chris Nybo said with a straight face that Rauner has not moved the goal posts as to what he needs to sign a budget and did not kill the grand bargain, With such perfidy how can anything be accomplished?
- Moe Berg - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 5:27 pm:
Stylistically, different. But, like Trump, lying comes naturally to Rauner, as does projection. He’s a classic case.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 5:48 pm:
I wouldn’t consider Mr. Nybo honest to process there.
I’d ask Leader Radogno, or just refer to her message to Rich … but that’s me.
- Three Dimensional Checkers - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 5:56 pm:
We’ve really crossed the Rubicon into oligarchy here in Illinois. Our government and politics is really all about a fight between insiders.
- Anon221 - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 7:05 pm:
Rauner should realize that the more he talks the more talking points he creates. And, if those talking pints are falsehoods, mid quotes, or outright lies, that should be used against him. Note, I wrote SHOULD for any campaigning Dems out there. Show actual video of Rauner’s interpretations. Then show people what was actually said. Oh, and by the way, try and find that little old lady while you’re at it. Surely Rauner has her number.
- Precinct Captain - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 7:23 pm:
Rich, you don’t have the access codes to program Raunerbots. You better hire the Russians to hack into ‘em!
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 7:46 pm:
I pledge to work cooperatively and professionally with the Governor to solve the #1 problem in Illinois- the budget deficit.
What grade do you give the Speaker on that pledge?
The Speaker does not want a budget, he considers the stop gaps successful
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 7:51 pm:
===The Speaker does not want a budget===
This, also, is an utterly useless statement, given Rauner had every opportunity to box in Madigan with the Grand Bargain, to test out your “silliness” as it exists now, but Rauner, twice, blew up the Grand Bargain, undercut Leader Radogno, and Rauner himself made clear he, Rauner, decides when compromise happens.
Had Rauner allowed the Grand Baragins, either one, to pass, you’d have an argument.
You have no argument.
This is the second time today you are being reminded of Rauner refusing to paint Madigan in a corner by purposely blowing up bargains.
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 7:53 pm:
LP, with the scoop — when did Rauner drop his pre-conditions before he would engage on a budget?
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:01 pm:
The Speaker has been the one leader still in office who has been the biggest impediment to a balanced budget over the past few decades but you both take him at his word he wants one now.
Talk about willful ignorance
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:03 pm:
===The Speaker has been the one leader still in office who has been the biggest impediment to a balanced budget over the past few decades but you both take him at his word he wants one now.===
I’m taking Leader Radogno’s word.
Keep up.
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:04 pm:
LOL, dazzling deflection, LP. I guess that’s why you get the big money.
But the question was, Rauner has dropped pre-conditions before addressing the budget?
That has been his position, has it not?
That’s my troll-toll for the day.
- Justacitizen - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:08 pm:
I predicted since the day Rauner won that Madigan and the democrats would resist and do anything/everything to make Rauner and the GOP a 1-termer.
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:10 pm:
The Governor is saying the Speaker and Lou Lang don’t want a budget.
What evidence can you cite that says they do?
They did not even schedule budget meetings until after the session ended.
The Speaker went into radio silence and did not respond the Leader Durkin’s call.
Where is the cooperative professionalism on budget making that was promised?
Are we to take the Speaker at his word or trust our lying eyes?
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:15 pm:
===The Speaker went into radio silence and did not respond the Leader Durkin’s call.
Where is the cooperative professionalism on budget making that was promised?
Are we to take the Speaker at his word or trust our lying eyes?===
All of this is Moot.
The deal was IN the Senate. The Governor himself said the deal was IN the Senate, even asking the Senate to continue working.
Do you not believe the Governor?
Leader Radogno also made clear Rauner blew up the Grand Bargain. Not Madigan, Rauner
Rauner had every opportunity to box in Madigan with the Grand Bargain, to test out your “silliness” as it exists now, but Rauner, twice, blew up the Grand Bargain, undercut Leader Radogno, and Rauner himself made clear he, Rauner, decides when compromise happens.
You ignore actual actions. Why?
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:28 pm:
No votes on “non budget” must haves like pensions in the House.
Why?
Because the Speaker does not want a budget and will not give one inch on reforms after two and a half years of cooperation and professionalism.
He does hand out nice clocks though
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:33 pm:
-,Lucky Pierre -
The issue is clear;
Until Rauner decides to box Madigan in with a compromised budget, passed thru the Senate with Rauner’s blessing and Raunerites votes on this budget… your ridiculousness isn’t holding any water any time soon.
That’s the ball game. The Senate. Rauner taking the brick off, Raunerites voting for it too.
You ignoring this speaks to you only obsessing about the Speaker.
- Louis G. Atsaves - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:40 pm:
Quotes do speak for themselves.
Tried a difficult case today. One witness bitterly complained on the witness stand about the rules of evidence and having testimony striken for repeated violations of those rules. “All I’m trying to do is tell what happened” collided with repeated admonitions of “You are required to answer the question as posed to you. Words do matter.”
Kind of reminded me about how Illinois is being governed these days. Words do matter. On ALL sides.
- Louis G. Atsaves - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:44 pm:
@wordslinger: “Amazing, Louis, that you don’t get the point of the post, and think doubling down on the boss’ willful misrepresentations is helping him out.
With those mad debate skills, what do your traffic clients get — life in front a firing squad?”
Word, I was worried that you abandoned the presidency of my fan club in favor of Lucky Pierre’s. And then I saw your attention again divert to him.
Keep that up and I’ll never recover from abandonment issues.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:50 pm:
===Kind of reminded me about how Illinois is being governed these days. Words do matter. On ALL sides.===
Counselor, context of words, that’s what makes words hold water in meaning.
I’m excited you had an irrelevant example to you thinking that Rauner taking things out of context is helpful in understanding honesty, or in truth, Rauner’s blare the dishonesty with Cullerton’s quotes, but… I’m not expecting you to be honest, I expect you to parse and pretend. Raunerites pretend universe rarely deals in honest discussion.
Now Dems, they passively let Rauner get away with Rauner’s dishonesty, so that’s on them, lol
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:54 pm:
Is the that why the Speaker sent his spokesman out to trash a watered down Grand Bargain?
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:55 pm:
===the that why the Speaker sent his spokesman out to trash a watered down Grand Bargain?===
… and yet, it was Rauner himself that pulled votes off the compromise. Not Madigan.
- CCP Hostage - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 8:58 pm:
I’d like to see someone box someone in on the budget. Let’s just get the blame permanently assigned and get on with things. As much as I do believe this is Rauner’s fault, I equally believe that he won’t be the solution, either. So box him in. Please.
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 9:17 pm:
Pulling votes off a watered down Grand Bargain trading a two year property tax freeze for a permanent income tax increase to try to improve it vs publicly trashing the concept.
Only a blind partisan would see equivalency from two parties.
The Speaker will not settle for anything less than total capilulation.
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 9:23 pm:
Did the Governor drop his preconditions on Orwellian “non budget issues” that supposedly have zero effect on state and local government costs like pension reform, workers comp?
All part of his personal agenda unrelated to budget making or efficient use of tax dollars.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 9:23 pm:
===Pulling votes off a…===
Yeah, I’m gonna stop ya right there.
Rauner blew up the Grand Bargain, even as Leader Radogno brokered it, undercutting Leader Radogno, as Leader Radogno said. Not my interpretation, Leader Radogno’s.
The rest of your drivel continues the deflection of the fact you just admitted…
“Pulling votes off a…”
That’s what Rauner did, as you admit, not Madigan.
===The Speaker will not settle for anything less than total capilulation===
And yet you say… you say…
“Pulling votes of a… ”
Get some rest. Try better tomorrow. lol
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 9:25 pm:
===Did the Governor drop his preconditions on Orwellian “non budget issues” that supposedly have zero effect on state and local government costs like pension reform, workers comp?===
As you already admitted, Rauner pulled off votes so no Grand Bargain to pass to box in Madigan.
Good try, thou.
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 9:45 pm:
Only in the mind of Illinois Democrats is a Republican Governor not allowed to maneuver a Grand Bargain to his liking.
Bargains Grand or small are the exclusive domain of Mike Madigan who has been blowing up deals not to his liking for years.
We can see how that has worked out for Illinois.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 9:52 pm:
===Only in the mind of Illinois Democrats is a Republican Governor not allowed to maneuver a Grand Bargain to his liking.===
… except it was Senate Republican Leader Radogno who made clear it was Rauner who blew up the Grand Bargain.
You keep trying to spin different ways to say the same thing. Not even trying, lol
===Bargains Grand or small are the exclusive domain of Mike Madigan who has been blowing up deals not to his liking for years.===
… yet, the specific Grand Bargain, 2017, Rauner undercut his own Republican Leader negotiating for Rauner. That’s confusing.
===We can see how that has worked out for Illinois===
Coward or loser… which would Coach Ditka think you’d choose?
- JS Mill - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 10:03 pm:
@LP- When did the governor submit a balanced budget to the ILGA?
If he didn’t why not?
The questions you won’t answer because you can’t. Why? Because it would require you to be honest about the worst governor in Illinois history (and that says a lot since we have several convicted felons on the list).
=Sen. Chris Nybo said with a straight face=
Uncle Bruce loves him some Nybo. Chris would probably lie to his own mom if Uncle Bruce told him to.
- Honeybear - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 10:49 pm:
Lucky Pierre, here’s what happened to me today. I was helping a man complete his application for a special jobs training program today. He was using a computer that we have set up for this.
He didn’t know how to capitalize a letter on a keyboard.
He had to ask where the space key was.
But he did his best with it and I helped him get it done.
One question was,
Where do you see yourself in 10 years?
He slowly typed,
i want to own my own business
Sisters and brothers, he’s not going to make it.
Any program that was there to help
is gone
because of Rauners induced crisis to destroy labor.
Let that sink in for a bit.
- DuPage Bard - Tuesday, Jun 6, 17 @ 11:39 pm:
LP what Governor has said they won’t do a budget unless their personal preconditions have been met? I believe it was Blagojevich who did that? Is that who your comparing your savior too?
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Jun 7, 17 @ 5:06 am:
Can we quote any of the Madigan operatives and precinct captains who have whispered since 2014 that the Speaker’s goal was that Rauner would be governor in name only for four years?
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Jun 7, 17 @ 8:12 am:
Unfortunately Rauner is a waste of energy!
- James Knell - Tuesday, Jun 20, 17 @ 11:38 am:
Did the lights just get dimmer? Governor Gaslighter strikes again!